At first I was saddened by the hundreds of Palestinians daily
been killed by their Israeli neighbours, most of them women
and children. News reports were filled with images of
desperate fathers running into hospitals holding their dead
and injured children in their arms, blood stains everywhere
and distraught women weeping for their lost relatives amidst
the ruins of what was once their houses.
(I apologise in advance for the gruesome pictures you're about
to see, but I deemed it necessary to illustrate my point.)
Horrid pictures of the deaths and devastation of Palestinians
at the hands of Israelis
I had arguments with family members who were in support of
Israel. They said that as Christians we must support Israel no
matter what, because they are God's chosen people and those
who bless them are blessed, and those who curse them are
cursed.
But I said that with all the military might Israel have, bought
with the millions in funding from the US and Europe, their
assault against the weakened Palestinians was akin to killing an
ant with a sledgehammer. It was overkill and inhumane to use
such brutal force against an enemy already on its knees and
cause their weakest members to bear the brunt of the battle.
I said that the Palestinians had been forcefully evicted from
their lands and forced to exist in the Gaza Strip of land where
all their food and supplies were administered to them by Israel
in a sort of imposed rationing, that their fighters were a
fraction of Israel's army in number and in might, and that
the rockets they repeatedly sent into Israel did little harm
due to Israel's superior defenses: only one Israeli civilian had
been killed since the recent fighting started, whereas Israel's
rockets has killed almost 2, 000 Palestinian civilians.
I was quite proud of my compassion, and was very much on the
side of most of the mainstream media in denouncing Israel's
campaign, and particularly loved this brilliant 'breakdown of
ignorance' by Russell Brand against America's Fox news and
their myopic view of the Israel/Palestine situation.
Iraqi Christians Under Attack by Islamic State (IS)
But then the news about the plight of Iraqi Christians (and
Iraqi minority group the Yazidis ) broke. Both groups had long
been persecuted in the majority-Muslim Iraq and around 100,
000 had now been forced to flee their homes after IS (Islamic
State, formerly ISIS) took over their main town Qaraqosh. The
IS soldiers gave them ultimatums: convert to Islam, leave or
give up their money and gold, so most left, were killed or were
kidnapped. Many were now stranded on the mountains, causing
the US to resume attacks on Iraq and drop aid parcels to the
fleeing families.
Then pictures of slaughtered Christians came forth; from
beheaded children to Christian men rounded up, tied up and
led to a space where they were told to kneel and were shot.
Some of them were crucified in mock allusions to their faith,
and hundreds of their young women were kidnapped to be used
as slaves or married off to Muslim fighters.
Horrid pictures of Iraqi Christians executed, children beheaded
and forced crucifixions by Islamic State (IS)
Boko Haram Did Not #BringBackOurGirls
This of course echoes the plight of the hundreds of girls
(majority Christian) abducted by Muslim extremists Boko
Haram from their schools in Borno State, Northern Nigeria.
Many have reportedly become pregnant and some are
rumoured to have been radicalised to the point of becoming
suicide bombers.
The remains of a female suicide bomber in Northern Nigeria,
compared with a picture of one of the girls kidnapped in
Chibok by Boko Haram. Looks like the same girl doesn't it?
In Nigeria of course, Boko Haram have been terrorising
Northern states including the capital Abuja, thousands (I'd
say up to a million) have been killed in the years since their
rise and I even saw a shocking video of BH militants beheading
a man, actually cutting his neck with a not-too-sharp knife
whilst they all shout 'Allahu Akbar,' snapping the neck back to
break it off then holding the severed head aloft and
declaring it a victory for Allah. I saw it with my own eyes and
almost threw up.
British Muslims Becoming Fighters
Meanwhile the war in Syria continues in the background, but
the worrying thing is that many British Muslims have traveled
to not only Syria but also Iraq to join in the fighting.
One story involves 16 year old twin girls from a Somalian
background who were born and bred in the UK and had
intentions of studying medicine. They snuck out of their homes
one night a couple of months ago to travel to Syria to become
'Jihadi Brides.' Their brother went first and was filmed
threatening the West in the familiar 'Terrorist Video' scene.
And when the girls found out about their infamy back in
England, one of them mocked the situation on Twitter by
saying that they'd rather be doctors for ISIS than for the
British.
One of the twin girls who ran away from England to support
the Muslims in Syria
Also in England recently was the furore caused by certain
schools in Birmingham that has 99% Muslim students been
taken over by their parents, who became school governors and
eventually used strong arm tactics to remove head teachers or
staff who didn't comply with the strict Islamic culture they'd
instituted in the schools (separate classes for boys and girls,
highly Islamicized lessons, no clapping, no music, trips to Saudi
Arabia, quoting blacklisted Imams in school literature, no
mention of Christmas in December and blatant slurs against
Christians in assemblies).
The British authorities finally found out about this and
hurriedly put measures in place to make sure no state schools
in Britain could be surreptitiously turned into faith schools
that could become havens for radicalisation.
Recently in the news, it was also revealed that some Muslims
were openly handing out leaflets in London's Oxford Street
encouraging Muslims to relocate to Iraq to fight for ISIS.
No More Sympathy for Palestine
So at first I was sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinians,
but now I'm not. After reviewing the multiple situations
around the world where Muslims are making the news, my sense
of solidarity with Palestinian Muslims has almost disappeared.
From Nigeria to Iraq to Syria to England, then also Egypt
where Coptic Christians cry out against the mass kidnappings
of their daughters by Muslim men, and countries like Saudi
Arabia where to be openly Christian is to invite persecution and
where churches are not welcome, and Iran whose former
President often spewed hate against Israel and the West,
Islam has proven to be an inhospitable religion which cannot live
at peace with neighbours of another faith.
Imagine if the most powerful country in the world, the US
were an Islamic country. Just imagine who the funding and
weapons would empower, and what that would mean for the
safety and stability of non-Muslims the world over.
I believe that if not for international support, Israel as a
country surrounded by muslims as it is would have been
obliterated. Israel attack because they know that if the shoe
was on the other foot, Palestine would have shown them
absolutely no mercy. I agree. Even now, though their people are
dying in the hundreds daily and a ceasefire is entirely in their
best interests, Hamas refuses to give up shooting their missiles
even though their attacks are but pin-pricks against Israel's
defenses. Their refusal to give up shows that the hatred is not
one-sided.
Religion of Peace?
Muslims often state that those that kill in the name of Allah
are not real Muslims, and Islam is a religion of peace. But how
many extremists out of the whole does it take for them to not
be just a 'tiny minority' or 'sect' anymore? 10 percent? 30
percent? Members, sympathisers and supporters of Boko
Haram, IS, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and those that kill in
Allah's name in Syria and around the world must number into
the millions. In Iraq and Nigeria, previously friendly Muslims
turned against the non-Muslims and helped IS and BH kill
them; I've heard reports that countries like Saudi Arabia and
Oman are directly funding IS, and it's an open secret that
major political entities are funding BH in Nigeria for their own
purposes.
Add to that number those that believe in and practice other
gruesome extremities of Islam like honour killings (of converts
out of Islam, 'Westernised' girls, adulterers etc), Sharia law-
sanctioned stonings (where the guilty are buried in the ground
up to their chests and stoned by the crowd until they die), and
forced female circumcisions and we're getting close to half of
all Muslims I'm sure.
And if the majority are peaceful, where is the evidence of the
peace they are spreading? I see no groups representing
peaceful Islam going into these places to stop their Muslim
brothers and sisters from committing crimes against
humanity. And as far as I know, the only protests by Muslims in
Nigeria despite the Boko Haram menace was one in support of
Palestine.
And if you ask IS or Al Qaeda or Boko Haram, they will tell you
that they are practicing the truest form of Islam. It's either
the scriptures they quote that sanction their actions is in the
Quran; they twisted certain verses to fuel their hate; or it's
not in the Quran and they made it up. I think it's a mixture of
the first two.
Islam vs Christianity
Let's put Islam and Christianity side by side. The worst of
Christianity happened centuries ago with The Crusades, when
Christians evangelised vast swathes of the world by force
using the sword. Muslims love to point to The Crusades as an
example of militant Christianity. But, and this is a big BUT,
since that relatively short-lived blip in the 2, 000 year history
of Christianity, you have never heard of a large group of
Christians killing people they don't know and committing other
atrocious acts in the name of Jesus. No, not ever. Christians
have been docile and law abiding for generations wherever
they live.
You might have lone wackos that murder a few people
randomly, but never a large and consistent group saying
Jehovah God told them to kill non-believers and behead
children, and shouting 'Jesus is Lord' when they do it. Even
the US Christian preacher that threatened to burn the Quran
was condemned by other Christians, including President
Obama. Jesus never advocated violence against non-believers,
yet Muhammad has been depicted in some unfavourable light
in the Qur'an; as a man of war launching jihads and
encouraging the killing of infidels.
Many Boko Haram members were said to have formerly being
Christians, so why did they not commit such atrocities as
Christians? Why was their conversion to Islam the catalyst to
their murderous impulses?
What is it about Islam that causes its believers to want to kill?
Now, the best of Christianity includes countless world-wide
charities founded on gospel principles that help millions in the
world today, from World Vision to Christian Aid, Save the
Children and many more. The West, a historically Christian
entity, gives aid to poorer countries and founded the United
Nations to ensure peace around the world. The US and the UK
were historically (and largely remains) Christian, so its
inventions, art and advances that continue to illuminate the
world could be said to be thanks to Christianity.
American Dr Kent Brantly, who contracted Ebola whilst
treating infected patients in Liberia, in a statement of faith
more inspiring than any I have ever read, said:
“My wife Amber and I, along with our two children, did
not move to Liberia for the specific purpose of fighting
Ebola. We went to Liberia because we believe God called
us to serve Him at ELWA Hospital.
One thing I have learned is that following God often
leads us to unexpected places. When Ebola spread into
Liberia, my usual hospital work turned more and more
toward treating the increasing number of Ebola
patients. I held the hands of countless individuals as this
terrible disease took their lives away from them. I
witnessed the horror first-hand, and I can still
remember every face and name.
“When I started feeling ill on that Wednesday morning, I
immediately isolated myself until the test confirmed my
diagnosis three days later. When the result was positive,
I remember a deep sense of peace that was beyond all
understanding. God was reminding me of what He had
taught me years ago, that He will give me everything I
need to be faithful to Him.
“Now it is two weeks later, and I am in a totally
different setting. My focus, however, remains the same
- to follow God. ”
Dr Kent Brantly and his wife. He contracted Ebola in Liberia
but is now back in the US and doing well after taking
experimental drug ZMapp
That is Christianity in action: selfless believers traveling all
over the world and facing huge dangers to help others through
aid, schools or evangelism, never by force. Mostly they just
travel to these places to help, like Dr Brantly- no preaching
involved.
Now, the worst of Islam is what we see around the world daily,
murders, forced conversions, kidnappings, 9/11, 7/7 and other
atrocities too numerous to mention. And what is the best of
Islam the world has seen? Apart from repeated assertions
that Islam is a religion of peace by individual adherents,
nothing major or world-renowned. No grand gestures of
peace, no mass movements to spread the goodness and mercy
or love found in Islam. People say countries like Saudi Arabia
live in peace, yes, but only because they've suppressed other
religions. Even in Dubai, the face of a modern Islamic country,
are there churches there? Can a Christian go on the streets
and preach the gospel and be listened to, ignored or mocked,
but not arrested or tortured?
The marker of a truly accommodating country is one where all
can practice their various religions freely, like in America and
Europe (and England to the point where freedom of religion
has resulted in Islamists taking over state schools).
I often think of the best places to live in that would be far
from the dangers of Islamic-sponsored terrorism, which would
be away from the West and countries where Muslims have
power like Nigeria. Somewhere like Ghana - where Muslims are
few and powerless - seems good to me.
So I'm Very Glad to be a Christian
I come from a Muslim background; my late father was a
Muslim, and his side of the family are still Muslims. But I am
now a Christian, and I thank God every blessed day for
bringing me to faith in Him. I have seen the light, and it is
good and pleasing in my sight. I am proud to be a Christian. I
can hold my head up high knowing that anywhere I go, I can
proclaim faith in Jesus without shame or pain knowing that
people are killing in His name, and that I am negatively tainted
by the sins of my brothers and sisters.
If I were a Muslim I would be distraught at what my fellow
believers are doing. I would be grieved to share a God with a
large chunk of people that have read in the same Holy Book
I'm reading that God said to kill others to glorify him.
I am pleased that I know the truth and it has set me free. I
am proud of the way Christians around the world conduct
themselves: although often provoked by Muslims, as a group
they never retaliate. Our faith says to turn the other cheek
and lead people to Christ, but never compel them. No one can
ever misquote Jesus and believe that killing non-Christians will
make our God happy.
And no, I most strongly insist that the Christian God and Allah
are not the same . How can they be, when one encourages half
his followers to kill infidels in order to enter paradise, and the
other says 'I have come that they might have life, and have it
in abundance'?
I've had some Muslims email me asking me to return to Islam. I
say to them all now: Never. Why would I? I have all I need in
Christ, and His people, although quite imperfect, are not killing
wantonly in His name. My God is good and gracious and
merciful, slow to anger and abounding in love. I worship Him
not out of fear or compulsion or family tradition, but out of
love, appreciation, gratitude and partial understanding of His
ways. I have genuine examples of when I've seen Him in action,
and God my Father has replaced and superseded my earthly
father (whom I loved) in every way.
The fact I remain anonymous on this blog is testament to the
intimidation and real fear of reprisals converts from Islam to
Christianity face daily around the world, where many are
killed by their own families for leaving the religion. But you will
never hear of a former Christian that was killed by their
families for converting to another religion. There is freedom in
Christ, and this freedom I cherish dearly.
Islam before 9/11 held little attraction for me due to its
subjugation of women, its distant, unknowable God, repetitive
prayers that allow for little creativity in communication, and
reading of holy texts in a foreign language, although I like the
modest dress of its women and it's a fact that the majority
of the people that helped me in Nigeria were Muslims.
But today more than ever, I am blessed and highly favored to
be a Christian.

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By their fruits you shall know them. Islam is NEVER a religion of peace.

Very interesting write up, honestly it beats my imagination why people still remain muslim today despite what the religion has proven itself to be.

PastorKun: Very interesting write up, honestly it beats my imagination why people still remain muslim today despite what the religion has proven itself to be.

Islam is a very difficult religion to get out of. The consequences are usually death in many lands. It's ten times easier to get out of Christianity (not a good decision, though) than to get out of Islam.

God knws

Very interesting and informative write-up. I too share your disapproval of Islamic radicals, and all religious extremists.

However I don't see why you should stop being sympathetic for the loss of innocent lives simply because they happen to be of the same religious affiliation of the extremists on another side of the world.

You forget that Christianity wasn't always a religion of peace, and if christians weren't always choosing parts of the bible they want to follow, it would still be a violent religion.

I see no difference between the god of Islam and the god of the Torah/Old testament. Abraham was willingly going to kill his son simply because his god told him to. So hows that any different from what BH and ISIS are doing. So if you can say Christianity is a religion of peace, then so can moslems.

So many atrocities have been committed in the name of religion, not just Islam and Christianity but others too. The common denominator here is religion. IF we solve that problem, everything else will fall into place.

rinrin23: Very interesting and informative write-up. I too share your disapproval of Islamic radicals, and all religious extremists.

However I don't see why you should stop being sympathetic for the loss of innocent lives simply because they happen to be of the same religious affiliation of the extremists on another side of the world.

You forget that Christianity wasn't always a religion of peace, and if christians weren't always choosing parts of the bible they want to follow, it would still be a violent religion.

I see no difference between the god of Islam and the god of the Torah/Old testament. Abraham was willingly going to kill his son simply because his god told him to. So hows that any different from what BH and ISIS are doing. So if you can say Christianity is a religion of peace, then so can moslems.

So many atrocities have been committed in the name of religion, not just Islam and Christianity but others too. The common denominator here is religion. IF we solve that problem, everything else will fall into place.

The difference between past violence in Christianity and violence as a part of the Islamic religion till date is that in Christianity violence can never be justified by the teachings or way of life of the founder of christianity(Jesus) where as in Islam the founder(mohammed) not only gave lots of violent instructions, he was a man of war and he personally led several battles. This is the example his followers are following today.

PastorKun:

The difference between past violence in Christianity and violence as a part of the Islamic religion till date is that in Christianity violence can never be justified by the teachings or way of life of the founder of christianity(Jesus) where as in Islam the founder(mohammed) not only gave lots of violent instructions, he was a man of war and he personally led several battles. This is the example his followers are following today.

I understand your line of thought.

However if we choose to say Jesus is the founder of Christianity and there is no violence in his teachings, does this mean Christianity is/should be based solely on the new testament and Jesus's life. Thereby doing away with ALL old laws including the 10commandments in the old testament.

As the founder of the faith as a whole, Christians can choose to follow the example of Abraham and kill in the name of God. And they have. In fact all christians need to do is follow the ways of God described in the OT and they would be violent and justified in it. So why copy a prophet of God and not God himself.

The only reason its not as widespread as Islam's extremities is because the recent trend of Christianity is to pick and choose which parts of the bible they choose to follow.

rinrin23:

I understand your line of thought.

However if we choose to say Jesus is the founder of Christianity and there is no violence in his teachings, does this mean Christianity is/should be based solely on the new testament and Jesus's life. Thereby doing away with ALL old laws including the 10commandments in the old testament.

As the founder of the faith as a whole, Christians can choose to follow the example of Abraham and kill in the name of God. And they have. In fact all christians need to do is follow the ways of God described in the OT and they would be violent and justified in it. So why copy a prophet of God and not God himself.

The only reason its not as widespread as Islam's extremities is because the recent trend of Christianity is to pick and choose which parts of the bible they choose to follow.

Christianity is not based on the whole bible but on the teachings of Christ and the apostles which are found mainly in the new testament. There are clear instructions in the new testament that the old laws have been done away with. Even the ten commandments was 'reduced' or summarised to two laws which is to Love God and to Love our fellow man.

rinrin23: Very interesting and informative write-up. I too share your disapproval of Islamic radicals, and all religious extremists.

However I don't see why you should stop being sympathetic for the loss of innocent lives simply because they happen to be of the same religious affiliation of the extremists on another side of the world.

You forget that Christianity wasn't always a religion of peace, and if christians weren't always choosing parts of the bible they want to follow, it would still be a violent religion.

I see no difference between the god of Islam and the god of the Torah/Old testament. Abraham was willingly going to kill his son simply because his god told him to. So hows that any different from what BH and ISIS are doing. So if you can say Christianity is a religion of peace, then so can moslems.

So many atrocities have been committed in the name of religion, not just Islam and Christianity but others too. The common denominator here is religion. IF we solve that problem, everything else will fall into place.

The type of ladies I easily fall in love with even without knowing what they look like.

This article is coming from a believer that is sold out for Christ.
May God bless your soul for choosing the right path that leads to eternal live.

I pray for God's guidance and revelation of his Word as you follow the perfect way of Christ .

PastorKun:

Christianity is not based on the whole bible but on the teachings of Christ and the apostles which are found mainly in the new testament. There are clear instructions in the new testament that the old laws have been done away with. Even the ten commandments was 'reduced' or summarised to two laws which is to Love God and to Love our fellow man.

Understood.

So if the NT says to do away with the OT why is it still there. And why do preachers use it selectively.

Why isnt christianity based on the whole bible?. Why did God change his mind from the OT to the NT. Why did he go from violent to loving.
Why not start off with just the New laws?

Romans 15:4
For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us (and not for practice), so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope.

PastorKun:

Christianity is not based on the whole bible but on the teachings of Christ and the apostles which are found mainly in the new testament. There are clear instructions in the new testament that the old laws have been done away with. Even the ten commandments was 'reduced' or summarised to two laws which is to Love God and to Love our fellow man.

The laws are forever. They can never be done away with.
Christianity is a mind control tool and all of you its adherents are zombies.
The Bible is not about religion, it is about heritage. The statutes, judgements, commands and laws of The Most High GOD which if a man lives in them he will be wise and will find life-the Bible. You sir, with you quoted statement above, are very lost.
Every word of Jesus, Paul and all the other apostles are firmly rooted in the message of the Old testament, and infact, in actual fact, the Old Testament is the Bible!

Sir, Understanding will not come to the disobedient until after Armageddon (that is anyone who is priviledged to survive it).

See what Yahshua says here concerning 'Christians' and all others who refuse to listen to the call to return to the way of the Laws, statutes, judgements and commands;

Mark 4:11-12
11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

See his precepts;
Isaiah 6:9-11
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate

All of you who refuse to come to the knowledge of Truth, The Way, it is The Most High Himself that has blinded you.

shdemidemi: Romans 15:4
For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us (and not for practice), so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope.

With the bolded and italicised above, now I know that you have lost it!
Deuteronomy 4:2
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Shdemidemi why are you so deathly afraid of what you have never read in your entire life?
Open the Bible and READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!

PS:
This is the verse you misquote;
Romans 15:4
4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

They are written for our learning, that through patience and comfort of the scriptures we might have hope.

Shdemidemi, read and free yourself. Throw away the iron yoke of slavery on your neck!

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rinrin23:

Understood.

So if the NT says to do away with the OT why is it still there. And why do preachers use it selectively.

Why isnt christianity based on the whole bible?. Why did God change his mind from the OT to the NT. Why did he go from violent to loving.
Why not start off with just the New laws?

My dear, I have read much of the Old testament, and I can assure you I havent found any attributes of a violent God. The God of the OT is a most kind, loving, merciful, justice loving, and longsuffering God.

Everyone who says God in the Old Testament is wicked or violent is just blatantly ignorant. The People who brought the lie called 'Christianity' to us told us that the laws have been done away with, they told us this because if you diligently study the OT, you will come to the incontrovertible conclusion that the Israelites of the Old testament are actually the Yoruba, Igbo, Efik, Lemba, Tarok, Berom, Siyawa, Esan, etc. peoples of today. They hid the truth from us, and because we sef were dumbed down by God, we have not been wise enough to decode until now.

I invite you to study the Bible especially the OT, you will find out that every single word spoken by Jesus or Paul, or Peter, or James, are all from the Old Testament. Not one jot or tittle of the laws or prophets will fail.

Christianity means follower of Christ. Just like you call someone who attends Oyedepo's church a winner, or Adeboye's church a redeemed, or Kumuyi's church a deeperlifer. Read further and you will find out that Christianity is a derogatory term coined by the romans to describe early followers of The Way.

oieda: By their fruits you shall know them. Islam is NEVER a religion of peace.

the fruits of the average Muslim or christain?

@mrpresident1

I beg you, this thread and the OP is too classy for mooted and ignorant arguments. Please take this 'yoruba are the real Israel' argument to the thread they belong, I will sure join you there. Thanks

My fingers still cross to deny wot Mr president said. Really dis is amazing,thnk God am a muslim.

MrPresident1:

Israelites of the Old testament are actually the Yoruba, Igbo, Efik, Lemba, Tarok, Berom, Siyawa, Esan, etc. peoples of today. They hid the truth from us, and because we sef were dumbed down by God, we have not been wise enough to decode until now.
.

Pls why does seun allow mad men on nairaland??

PastorKun:

Christianity is not based on the whole bible but on the teachings of Christ and the apostles which are found mainly in the new testament. There are clear instructions in the new testament that the old laws have been done away with. Even the ten commandments was 'reduced' or summarised to two laws which is to Love God and to Love our fellow man.

Answer this simple question.

Do you preach the words from the old testament in your church?

PastorKun:

The difference between past violence in Christianity and violence as a part of the Islamic religion till date is that in Christianity violence can never be justified by the teachings or way of life of the founder of christianity(Jesus) where as in Islam the founder(mohammed) not only gave lots of violent instructions, he was a man of war and he personally led several battles. This is the example his followers are following today.

Words of Jesus ..."do not think I came for peace, I came to bring violence, and cause a father against son, mother against daughter, families against each other"

macof:

Words of Jesus ..."do not think I came for peace, I came to bring violence, and cause a father against son, mother against daughter, families against each other"

reading in context, do you actually think Jesus was telling the people to raise jihad against their relatives?

PastorKun:

Christianity is not based on the whole bible but on the teachings of Christ and the apostles which are found mainly in the new testament. There are clear instructions in the new testament that the old laws have been done away with. Even the ten commandments was 'reduced' or summarised to two laws which is to Love God and to Love our fellow man.

Mr, are you actually a pastor?

So it is done away with..i.e. dissolved..

But yet, there remain two laws from it. Which is it?

According to the bible, how do we know we love the Lord? And give me scripture, I don't want that effeminate stuff they preach.

Now if you love your fellow man as you do yourself, and love the Lord with all your heart, you definitely will not break any of those laws, because Love would compel you to do each commandment.

Simple.

MrPresident1:

The laws are forever. They can never be done away with.
Christianity is a mind control tool and all of you its adherents are zombies.
The Bible is not about religion, it is about heritage. The statutes, judgements, commands and laws of The Most High GOD which if a man lives in them he will be wise and will find life-the Bible. You sir, with you quoted statement above, are very lost.
Every word of Jesus, Paul and all the other apostles are firmly rooted in the message of the Old testament, and infact, in actual fact, the Old Testament is the Bible!

Sir, Understanding will not come to the disobedient until after Armageddon (that is anyone who is priviledged to survive it).

See what Yahshua says here concerning 'Christians' and all others who refuse to listen to the call to return to the way of the Laws, statutes, judgements and commands;

Mark 4:11-12
11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

See his precepts;
Isaiah 6:9-11
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.
10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.
11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate

All of you who refuse to come to the knowledge of Truth, The Way, it is The Most High Himself that has blinded you.

Excellent precept brother.

Blessed art thou. For flesh and blood hath not revealed the secret things unto you, but the Most High in heaven

shdemidemi:

reading in context, do you actually think Jesus was telling the people to raise jihad against their relatives?

Reading simple words.
And look at nations today, how christianity has riped families apart

rinrin23:

I understand your line of thought.

However if we choose to say Jesus is the founder of Christianity and there is no violence in his teachings, does this mean Christianity is/should be based solely on the new testament and Jesus's life. Thereby doing away with ALL old laws including the 10commandments in the old testament.

As the founder of the faith as a whole, Christians can choose to follow the example of Abraham and kill in the name of God. And they have. In fact all christians need to do is follow the ways of God described in the OT and they would be violent and justified in it. So why copy a prophet of God and not God himself.

The only reason its not as widespread as Islam's extremities is because the recent trend of Christianity is to pick and choose which parts of the bible they choose to follow.

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PastorKun: Very interesting write up, honestly it beats my imagination why people still remain muslim today despite what the religion has proven itself to be.

it beats my imagination why people still believe in religion. ...I had this aquement with my devoted muslim brother yesterday. ...

Christianity is fool of absurdity while islam is fool of so many insane believe.... emerging ISIS fughting a for God.

Op whatever floats ur boat...christains to deir own...muslims to their own...atheists to their own and so on...problems only arise if ppl don't accept their differences. Nigerians can like to shove their beliefs down on ppls throats
Have got frnds who r atheists,christains,muslims and we get along very well. For those claiming RELIGION is d issue...hate to break it to you but if GOD doesn't exist ppl will still wage war on each other. ..they'll find something little dt shouldn't be blown out of proportion as a reason or excuse to fight,kill and commit all sorts of atrocities. The day people start to learn how to accommodate each other and find a common ground that's the day the world might know peace.
Am proud to be a muslim and I stand by my decision to continue to be one...I don't hate on ppl of different beliefs and I can bet my life on it that all dose psychos out dere claiming dey r killing for Allah aren't muslims and neither do they practice islam...so like I said "OP" whatever floats ur boat but don't try to capsize another's!

lovaleenny: Op whatever floats ur boat...christains to deir own...muslims to their own...atheists to their own and so on...problems only arise if ppl don't accept their differences. Nigerians can like to shove their beliefs down on ppls throats
Have got frnds who r atheists,christains,muslims and we get along very well. For those claiming RELIGION is d issue...hate to break it to you but if GOD doesn't exist ppl will still wage war on each other. ..they'll find something little dt shouldn't be blown out of proportion as a reason or excuse to fight,kill and commit all sorts of atrocities. The day people start to learn how to accommodate each other and find a common ground that's the day the world might know peace.
Am proud to be a muslim and I stand by my decision to continue to be one...I don't hate on ppl of different beliefs and I can bet my life on it that all dose psychos out dere claiming dey r killing for Allah aren't muslims and neither do they practice islam...so like I said "OP" whatever floats ur boat but don't try to capsize another's!

lovaleenny: Op whatever floats ur boat...christains to deir own...muslims to their own...atheists to their own and so on...problems only arise if ppl don't accept their differences. Nigerians can like to shove their beliefs down on ppls throats
Have got frnds who r atheists,christains,muslims and we get along very well. For those claiming RELIGION is d issue...hate to break it to you but if GOD doesn't exist ppl will still wage war on each other. ..they'll find something little dt shouldn't be blown out of proportion as a reason or excuse to fight,kill and commit all sorts of atrocities. The day people start to learn how to accommodate each other and find a common ground that's the day the world might know peace.
Am proud to be a muslim and I stand by my decision to continue to be one...I don't hate on ppl of different beliefs and I can bet my life on it that all dose psychos out dere claiming dey r killing for Allah aren't muslims and neither do they practice islam...so like I said "OP" whatever floats ur boat but don't try to capsize another's!

lovaleenny: Op whatever floats ur boat...christains to deir own...muslims to their own...atheists to their own and so on...problems only arise if ppl don't accept their differences. Nigerians can like to shove their beliefs down on ppls throats
Have got frnds who r atheists,christains,muslims and we get along very well. For those claiming RELIGION is d issue...hate to break it to you but if GOD doesn't exist ppl will still wage war on each other. ..they'll find something little dt shouldn't be blown out of proportion as a reason or excuse to fight,kill and commit all sorts of atrocities. The day people start to learn how to accommodate each other and find a common ground that's the day the world might know peace.
Am proud to be a muslim and I stand by my decision to continue to be one...I don't hate on ppl of different beliefs and I can bet my life on it that all dose psychos out dere claiming dey r killing for Allah aren't muslims and neither do they practice islam...so like I said "OP" whatever floats ur boat but don't try to capsize another's!

. They are d real muslims while people like yu are hypocrites. They are doing what muhammad, islam founder did. Abi, saudi has sword on its flag, dat suggests peace ?

macof:

Reading simple words.
And look at nations today, how christianity has riped families apart

Please explain how it has ripped families.