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| Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:50pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
All four Gospels record Jesus as saying, "Blessed are the peace-makers; they will be called sons of God." The word ‘son’ cannot be accepted literally because in the Bible, God apparently addresses many of his chosen servants as ‘son’ and ‘sons.’ The Hebrews believed God is One, and had neither wife nor children in any literal sense. Therefore, it is obvious the expression ‘son of God’ merely meant ‘Servant of God’; one who, because of faithful service, was close and dear to God as a son is to his father. Christians who came from a Greek or Roman background, later misused this term. In their heritage, ‘son of God’ signified an incarnation of a god or someone born of a physical union between male and female gods. This can be seen in Acts 14: 11-13, where we read that when Paul and Barnabas preached in a city of Turkey, pagans claimed they were gods incarnate. They called Barnabas the Roman god Zeus, and Paul the Roman god Hermes. Furthermore, the New Testament Greek word translated as ‘son’ are ‘pias’ and ‘paida’ which mean ‘servant,’ or ‘son in the sense of servant.’ These are translated to ‘son’ in reference to Jesus and ‘servant’ in reference to all others in some translations of the Bible. So, consistent with other verses, Jesus was merely saying that he is God’s servant. Additional problems with Trinity To a christian, God had to take human form to understand temptation and human suffering, but the concept is not based on any clear words of Jesus. In contrast, God does not need to be tempted and suffer in order to be able to understand and forgive man’s sins, for He is the all knowing Creator of man. This is expressed in the verse: ‘And the Lord said: ‘I have surely seen the affliction of My people that are in Egypt, and I have heard their cry because of their taskmasters; for I know their pains.’ (Exodus 3:7) God forgave sin before Jesus’ appearance, and He continues to forgive without any assistance. When a believer sins, he may come before God in sincere repentance to receive forgiveness. Indeed, the offer to humble oneself before God and be saved is made to all humankind. ‘And there is no God else beside Me; a just God and a Savior; there is none beside Me. Look to Me, and be saved, all the ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is none else.’ (Isaiah 45:21-22, Jonah 3:5-10) Biblically, people can receive forgiveness of sins through sincere repentance sought directly from God. This is true at all times and in all places. There has never been a need for the so- called inter cessionary role Jesus plays in attaining atonement. The facts speak for themselves. There is no truth to the Christian belief that Jesus died for our sins and salvation is only through Jesus. What about the salvation of people before Jesus? Jesus’ death brings neither atonement from sin, nor is it in any way a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Christians claim that in the birth of Jesus, there occurred the miracle of the incarnation of God in the form of a human being. To say that God became truly a human being invites a number of questions. Let us ask the following about the man-God Jesus. What happened to his foreskin after his circumcision (Luke 2:21) ? Did it ascend to heaven, or did it decompose as with any human piece of flesh? During his lifetime what happened to his hair, nails, and blood shed from wounds? Did the cells of his body die as in ordinary human beings? If his body did not function in a truly human way, he could not be truly human as well as truly God. Yet, if his body functioned exactly in a human way, this would nullify any claim to divinity. It would be impossible for any part of God, even if incarnate, to decompose in any way and still be considered God. The everlasting, one God, in whole or in part, does not die, disintegrate, or decompose: ‘For I the Lord do not change.’ (Malachi 3:6) Did Jesus’ flesh dwell in safety after his death? Unless Jesus’ body never underwent ‘decay’ during his lifetime he could not be God, but if it did not undergo ‘decay’ then he was not truly human. Bible says that God is not man ‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19) ‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9) Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible ‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40) ‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22) ‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31) ‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) The Bible says that God is not a son of man ‘God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23:19) The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’ ‘so will the son of man be’ (Matthew 12:40) ‘For the son of man is going to come’ (Matthew 16:27) ‘until they see the son of man coming in His kingdom.’ (Matthew 28) ‘But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority’ (Mark 2:10) ‘because he is the son of man’ (John 5:27) In the Hebrew scriptures, the ‘son of man’ is also used many times speaking of people (Job 25:6; Psalm 80:17; 144:3; Ezekiel 2:1; 2:3; 2:6-8; 3:1-3). Since God would not contradict Himself by first saying He is not the son of a man, then becoming a human being who was called ‘the son of man’, he would not have done so. Remember God is not the author of confusion. Also, human beings, including Jesus, are called ‘son of man’ specifically to distinguish them from God, who is not a ‘son of man’ according to the Bible. The Bible says that Jesus denied he is God Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19) And he said to him, ‘Why are you asking me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.’ (Matthew 19:17) Jesus did not teach people that he was God If Jesus had been telling people that he was God, he would have complimented the man. Instead, Jesus rebuked him, denying he was good, that is, Jesus denied he was God. The Bible says that God is greater than Jesus ‘My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28) ‘My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29) Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him. The Christian belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to the clear words from Jesus. Jesus never instructed his disciples to worship him ‘When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2) ‘In that day, you shall ask me nothing. Whatsoever you ask of the Father in my name.’ (John 16:23) ‘The hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth; for the Father seeketh such to worship him.’ (John 4:23) If Jesus was God, he would have sought worship for himself Since he didn’t, instead he sought worship for God in the heavens, therefore, he was not God. Jesus worshipped the only true God ‘that they might know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent.’ (John 17:3) ‘he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12) ‘Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28) How did Jesus pray to God? ‘he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father’ (Matthew 26:39) ‘During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.’ (Hebrews 5:7) Who was Jesus praying to when he fell on his face? Was Jesus crying in tears to himself pleading to be saved from death? No man, sane or insane, prays to himself! Surely the answer must be a resounding ‘No.’ Jesus was praying to ‘the only true God.’ Jesus was the servant of the One Who sent him. Can there be a clearer proof that Jesus was not God? The Quran confirms that Jesus called for the worship of the Only True God: “It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.” (Quran 3:51) |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:52pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Disciples did not believe Jesus was God The Acts of the Apostles in the Bible details the activity of the disciples over a period of thirty years after Jesus was raised to heaven. Throughout this period, they never referred to Jesus as God. For instance Peter stood up with the eleven disciples and addressed a crowd saying: ‘Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22) For Peter, Jesus was a servant of God (confirmed In Matthew 12:18) ‘The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.’ (Acts 3:13) ‘God raised up his servant’ (Acts 3:26) When faced by opposition from the authorities, Peter said ‘We must obey God rather than men! The God of our fathers raised Jesus’ (Acts 5:29-30) The disciples prayed to God just as they were commanded by Jesus in Luke 11:2, and considered Jesus to be God’s servant. ‘they raised their voices together in prayer to God. ‘Sovereign Lord,’ they said, ‘you made the heaven and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.’ (Acts 4:24) ‘your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.’ (Acts 4:27) ‘of Your holy servant Jesus.’ (Acts 4:30) ‘I am indeed a servant of God.’ (Quran 19:30) The Bible says that Jesus was God’s servant ‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’ (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s servant, Jesus can not be God. The Bible says that Jesus could not do anything by himself ‘The son can do nothing by himself; he can only do what he sees his Father doing.’ (John 5:19) ‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:30) The Bible says that Jesus did not consider himself equal with God and that God performed miracles through Jesus & Jesus was limited in what he could do: ‘But when the crowds saw this, they were awestruck, and glorified God, who had given such authority to men.’ (Matt. 9:  ‘a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst.’ (Acts 2:22) ‘he went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.’ (Acts 10:38) If Christ was God, the Bible would simply say that Jesus did the miracles himself without making reference to God. The fact that it was God supplying the power for the miracles shows that God is greater than Jesus. Also, Jesus was limited in performing miracles One time when Jesus tried to heal a blind man, the man was not healed after the first attempt, and Jesus had to try a second time (Mark 8:22-26). Once a woman was healed of her incurable bleeding. The woman came up behind him and touched his cloak, and she was immediately healed. But Jesus had no idea who touched him: ‘At once Jesus realized that power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, ‘Who touched my clothes?’ (Mark 5:30) ‘He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.’ (Mark 6:5) Quite obviously, someone with such limitations can not be God. The power of miracles was not within Jesus. The Bible says that at times of weakness angels strengthened Jesus God ,however, does not need to be strengthened. Human need to be strengthened; God does not because God is All-Powerful. If Jesus had to be strengthened, he must not be God. ‘An angel from heaven appeared to him and strengthened him - in the garden of Gethsemane’ (Luke 22:43) ‘Then the devil left him; and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him’ (Mark. 1:13) ‘And he was in the wilderness forty days being tempted by Satan; and he was with the wild beasts, and the angels were ministering to him.’ (Mark 1:13) The Bible says that Jesus wanted God’s will to be done ‘not my will but Yours be done.’ (Luke 22:42) ‘I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me.’ (John 5:30) ‘For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of Him that sent me.’ (John 6:38) Are some members of the coequal Trinity subservient, and less than equal, to other members? Even though they have different wills (‘I do not seek my own will’), do they obey without question the others’ commands (‘the will of Him who sent me’)? Jesus admits to subordinating his own distinct will, yet according to the Trinitarian doctrine they should all have the same will. Should one of the triune partners have to forgo his own will in favor of the will of another member of the Trinity? Should not they all have the exact same will? The Bible says Jesus regarded himself and God as two ‘I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father.’ (John 8:17-18  ‘Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.’ (John 14:1) If Jesus was God, He would have not have regarded God’s testimony as separate from his own. The Bible says that Jesus is subordinate to God ‘Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.’ (1 Corinthians 11:3) ‘When he has done this, then the son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.’ (1 Corinthians 15:28) Bible says that Jesus grew in wisdom & learning But God is All Wise & does not need to learn: Jesus grew in wisdom, but God is all wise ‘Great is our Lord and abundant in strength; His understanding is infinite.’ (Psalms 147:5) ‘And Jesus increased in wisdom.’ (Luke 2:52) God does not need to learn, but Jesus learned: ‘Although he was a son, he learned obedience’ (Heb. 5: Jesus had limited knowledge, but god’s knowledge is infinite. Since Jesus did not know, he was not all-knowing, and therefore, he cannot be the God whose knowledge is all-encompassing. ‘No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the son, but only the Father.’ (Mark 13:32) Bible says that Jesus was tempted, but God cannot be tempted ’tempted in every way - just as we are’ (Heb. 4:15) ‘for God cannot be tempted by evil’ (James 1:13) Since God can not be tempted, but Jesus was, therefore, Jesus was not God. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:53pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Bible says that Jesus’ teachings were from God, not from himself ‘So Jesus answered them and said, ‘My teaching is not mine, but His who sent me.’ (John 7:16) Jesus could not have said this if he were God because the doctrine would have been his. Bible says that Jesus died, but God cannot die The Bible teaches that Jesus died. God cannot die. Romans 1:23 and other verses say that God is immortal. Immortal means, ‘not subject to death.’ This term applies only to God. Bible says that Jesus lived because of God ‘I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57) Jesus cannot be God because he depended on God for his own existence. Bible says that Jesus’ powers were given to him ‘All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28:18) God is all-powerful, no one gives God His powers, otherwise He would not be God because He would be weak. Therefore, Jesus could not be God. Bible says that Jesus was taught & commanded by God ‘As my Father hath taught me, I speak these things,’ (John 8:28) ‘The Father, who sent me, he gave me a commandment.’ (John 12:49) ‘I have kept my Father’s commandments.’ (John 15:10) No one can teach God, otherwise God cannot be All-Knowing and would owe His teacher. Since Jesus was taught and commanded by God, Jesus cannot be God himself. The teacher and the student, the commander and the commanded are not one. Bible says that God made Jesus ‘Lord’! ‘God has made this Jesus both Lord and Christ.’ (Acts 2:36) ‘Lord’ is used in many ways in the Bible, and others beside God and Jesus are called ‘Lord.’ For example: 1) property owners (Matt. 20: 2) heads of households (Mark 13:35) 3) slave owners (Matt. 10:24) 4) husbands (1 Pet. 3:6) 5) a son called his father Lord (Matt. 21:30) 6) the Roman Emperor was called Lord (Acts 25:26) 7) Roman authorities were called Lord (Matt. 27:63) ‘Lord’ is not the same as ‘God.’ ‘Lord’ (the Greek word is kurios) is a masculine title of respect and nobility used many times in the Bible. If Jesus was God, then for the Bible to say he was ‘made’ Lord would make no sense. Bible says that Jesus was lower than angels ‘But we do see him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus.’ (Hebrews 2:9) God, the Creator of angels, can not be lower than His own creation, but Jesus was. Therefore, Jesus was not God. Bible says that Jesus called the Father ‘my God’ ‘My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?’ (Matt. 27:46) ‘I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17) ‘the temple of my God the name of my God the city of my God comes down out of heaven from my God.’ (Rev. 3:12) Jesus did not think of himself as God, instead Jesus’ God is the same as ours. Bible says that God cannot be seen But Jesus was seen by others ‘no man has seen God at any time.’ (John 1:18) Bible says twice that Jesus was accused of being God But he denied it: According to the Bible, on only two instances the Jews opposed Jesus on the basis that he pretended to be God or equal with God. Had Jesus, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, claimed to be God, he is likely to have been opposed on this basis more frequently. Because in these two instances, when charged, in the one case, with making himself God, and in the other, with making himself equal with God, he denied the charges. In reply to the charge of being an equal with God, he says immediately: ‘The son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father do’; and directly after ‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:19, 30) In answer to the charge of making himself God, he appeals to the Jews in substance thus: Your own Scriptures call Moses a god, and your magistrates gods; I am surely not inferior to them, yet I did not call myself God, but only the ‘son’ of God (John 10:34-36). This is unlikely to have been Jesus’ actual response. Hastings in ‘The Dictionary of the Bible’ says, ‘Whether Jesus used it of himself is doubtful.’ Grolier’s encyclopedia, under the heading ‘Jesus Christ,’ says, ‘it is uncertain whether the Father/Son language (Mark 18:32; Matt. 11:25-27 Par.; John Passim) goes back to Jesus himself.’ A University of Richmond professor, Dr. Robert Alley, after considerable research into newly found ancient documents concludes that: ‘The (Biblical) passages where Jesus talks about the Son of God are later additions. what the church said about him. Such a claim of deity for himself would not have been consistent with his entire lifestyle as we can reconstruct. For the first three decades after Jesus’ death Christianity continued as a sect within Judaism. The first three decades of the existence of the church were within the synagogue. That would have been beyond belief if they (the followers) had boldly proclaimed the deity of Jesus.’ Assuming Jesus did say that he was ‘son’ of God. What did it mean? We first need to know the language of his people, the language of the Jews to whom he was speaking. The Bible says God had many ‘sons’ First, most people think there are no other verses that contradict or give equal divine sonship to other persons in the Old or New Testament. For Jesus to be called son of God, does not make him a true son of God, other wise Adam, Jacob, Ephraim and many more should also be considered as been sons of God as such they should be worshiped too according to such method. Adam: ‘Adam, which was the son of God.’ (Luke 3:38) Jacob is God’s son and firstborn: ‘Israel is my son, even my firstborn.’ (Exodus 4:22) Solomon: ‘I will be his father, and he shall be my son.’ (2 Samuel 7:13-14) Ephraim: ‘for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.’ (Jeremiah 31:9) is God’s firstborn, common people are called the sons of God: ‘Ye are the children of the Lord your God’ (Deuteronomy 14:1) 1 Like |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Nobody: 7:12pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Because Martian is Lord/God. 1 Like |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by eyeopener: 7:34pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Utter lengthy nonsense 2 Likes |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by ideyhere(f): 7:36pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Please anybody who read this can summarize the point op is trying to make...thank you in advance |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Yustash001(m): 7:44pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: Bible says that Jesus’ teachings were from God, not from himself |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Yustash001(m): 7:46pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
Tanx for d enlightment bro... 1 Like |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Nobody: 8:05pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
@op why was Muhammed not a prophet? |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by yuncka: 8:06pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
I no blame some pipl, U so good @ copy and paste. BTW, U would have made sense if U copy/paste small stuff I could patiently read. BTW again, Jesus is still d SON of the most high God. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by sogodihno: 9:55pm On Sep 12, 2014 |
U don sabi bible finish abi? Come and explain John 1: 1,2 & 14. 1 Tim 3:16. Let me give u dz few places go and study it i dont av time to type much now. NOTE: if u want to study d bible open ur mind, Push out all wat dey av put or av in ur mind. Even fornicator and thief can interprete d bible to suit demselves. Jesus is d way, d truth and d life nobody comes to the father except through him. Jesus is God and he is also d son of God, u ask how is dt posible? yh! it's posible because wth God all things are posible. Go and read 1 john chap 2. wth Open mind ni o. Accept christ tomoro myt b too late. God bless u 1 Like |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 7:38am On Sep 13, 2014 |
sogodihno: U don sabi bible finish abi? Come and explain John 1: 1,2 & 14. 1 Tim 3:16. Let me give u dz few places go and study it i dont av time to type much now.THAT IS WAT YOU PEOPLE DONT KNOW...I AM FOLLOWIN JESUS MORE THAN U THINK BECAUSE IF I AM FOLLOWING MUHAMMAD I AM FOLLOWING JESUS i even follow jesus more than u think jesus condemn payment of interesr when we try to establish islamic banking with interest free loan CAN OPPOSED IT reference l- Imran {3:130} “O ye who believed! Devour not usury, doubling and quadrupling (the sum lent). Observe your duty to Allah, that ye may be successful.” Another message is repeated in: Surah, Al-Baqara {2:188} “And eat not up your property among yourselves in vanity, nor seek by it to gain the hearing of the judges that ye may knowingly devour a portion of the property of others wrongfully.” What does the Christian book has to say concerning Interest and Bribery? Is it really there in the Bible? Yes! Why is C.A.N against it? I don’t know……….. Then, they are the Biggest Anti-Christ that I have ever seen………….. Exodus 23:8 "And thou shalt take no bribe: for a bribe blindeth them that have sight, and ruins the cause of those who are the righteous.” Warning against Bribery! What about Interest? Let’s examine this verse again: Exodus 22:25 “If thou lend money to any of my people with thee that is poor, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest.” Similar message is also repeated in the Book of Deuteronomy: Deuteronomy 23:19 "Thou shalt not lend upon interest to thy brother; interest of money, interest of victuals, interest of anything that is lent upon interest.” THE BIBLE SAID U SHOULD COVER UR HEAD U OPPOSE IT( 1 Corinthians 11:5, says that “Every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved) WHEN AREGBESHOLA RAISED THE ISSUE OF COVERING HEAD IN OSUN CAN OPPOSE IT WHAT AN ANTI CHRIST i know u will said it is only when they want topray pls dont children pray in school on assembly ground.....dont they pray before eating?......all christians nowadays are anti christ THE BIBLE SAID WOMEN SHOULD NOT TALK IN CHURCH U PEOPLE WENT TO ORGANISE CHOIR EVEN NOW WOMEN ARE NOW PASTORS( - I Corinthians 14:34-35: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.) JESUS PRAY U NEVER DID THAT INSTEAD U CRITICISE MUSLIMS FOR BOWING THEIR HEAD( DISCRIPTION OF SOLAT IN THE BIBLE "Ezra the scribe stood on a high wooden platform (ready for solat) that had been made for the occasion. To his right stood Mattithiah, Shema, Anaiah, Uriah, Hilkiah, and Maaseiah. To his left stood Pedaiah, Mishael, Malkijah, Hashum, Hashbaddanah, Zechariah, and Meshullam." (Nehemiah 8:4)."And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people (imam) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:" (Nehemiah 8:5)."Then Ezra praised the LORD(takbiratul iram), the great God, and all the people chanted, "Amen! Amen!" as they lifted their hands. Then they bowed down (rukuh) and worshiped the LORD with their faces to the ground(sujud)." (Nehemiah 8:6).......DID U DO THIS? WHAT AN ANTICHRIST.....EVEN THOUGH U PEOPLE TAMPER THE BIBLE THE TRUTH WILL SHOW IT SELF....ALL CHRISTIANS NOWADAYS ARE ANTICHRIST EXCEPT WE MUSLIM BECAUSE YISA PROPHESISE THE COMING OF MUHAMMAD |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 7:43am On Sep 13, 2014 |
yuncka: I no blame some pipl, U so good @ copy and paste.WITH ALL THIS EVIDENCE JUST GIVE ME A SINGLE VERSE THAT JESUS SAY I AM GOD |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 7:47am On Sep 13, 2014 |
ideyhere: Please anybody who read this can summarize the point op is trying to make...thank you in advanceIN SUMMARY GOD IS ONE JESUS IS A PROPHET AND NOT GOD........if u ask for verse that say jesus is a prophet i will provide it BUT U JUST GIVE ME A VERSE WHERE JESUS SAY I AM GOD OR OUR GOD IS THREE |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by ycmdng(m): 7:50am On Sep 13, 2014 |
@Op, didn't you learn how to summarize in high school? Meanwhile no MB to waste on your blushing. Jesus is Lord take it or leave it. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by sogodihno: 8:43am On Sep 13, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: Bros, u had beta stop argue wat u dont know. Mohammed and Jesus? Their life is a contrast, as in directly opposite to each other. Jesus said d one who is to come will live forever, is Mohammed still alive? jesus said d person wil b a spirit, is Mohammed a spirit? At least ur Quaran recognise jesus, but av not seen any place wia Mohammed is mention in my bible, Once again, the life of jesus and Mohammed is not equal in any form. Mohammed has wives, Jesus didnt. Jesus said himself that he is d way, d truth and d life, Mohammed dont dare say dat. U claim Jesus is also a messenger like Mohammed yet wat jesus profess abt himself and wat he did, no other person or even ur mohammed dare profess or do it. Broda, we all know d truth, dont pretend as if u dont know, My youth pastor is a chronic muslim before, u urself cant debate muslim or mohammed wth him den because he eats Quaran as food but glory to God dt he met d saviour. And i av many friends who were muslim that are now christians because they saw d light. They testify d peace dey av neva felt before in dia life. No religion give peace not even christianity but only Jesus My broda tomoro myt b too late. Jesus love u |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by ideyhere(f): 9:09am On Sep 13, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: IN SUMMARY GOD IS ONE JESUS IS A PROPHET AND NOT GOD........if u ask for verse that say jesus is a prophet i will provide it BUT U JUST GIVE ME A VERSE WHERE JESUS SAY I AM GOD OR OUR GOD IS THREE Okay...ayaf heard |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by ycmdng(m): 9:47am On Sep 13, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: IN SUMMARY GOD IS ONE JESUS IS A PROPHET AND NOT GOD........if u ask for verse that say jesus is a prophet i will provide it BUT U JUST GIVE ME A VERSE WHERE JESUS SAY I AM GOD OR OUR GOD IS THREE Mr Op let's analyze it: 1, Jesus is the son of God 2. He's the heir of God 2. He called HIMSELF the prince of peace So I'll not be mistaking to call him KING and Nobody like HIMto share the name LORD & GOD. Nigerian ambassador to any country is Nigerian President in that country. I'll only advice you to stop equating the life and personality of Jesus to mohammed, Jesus is Son but mohammed -. I rest my case. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Akindarchi(m): 10:51am On Sep 13, 2014 |
ycmdng:1) you say Jesus is the son of God, okay then you agree with the op that Jesus is not God. Since you already agree with Jesus saying (not quoting exactly) : the Lord our God is one Lord...*end of quote mentioned here* that should translate to Jesus isn't God or Lord 2) you said he is heir to God, okay, according to you then he inherited/would inherit the characteristics of God. What are the qualities of an inheritor though? He has to have the qualities of his successor, the successor haas to step aside (usually maybe by dieing or becoming less suitable for the job) for the inheritor to inherit, and maybe some more that I can't remember. Of course we both don't believe that God can ever die or be inadequate, and dominion is forever His, right? So maybe you need to clarify what exactly Jesus inherited from God so that we can better understand each other 2) *i think you meant 3) prince of peace...no bigi, doesn't translate to Lord or God, the devil is called prince of the world by some christians, I am not sure as to whether that's supported by the bible, but that didn't make them call the devil God or Lord.  on second thought, there are some people who do call the devil lord and God, so I rephrase That to say that the devil being the prince of the world doesn't translate to him being the Lord or GodThe Nigerian ambassador in any other country is the president? I don't know much about politics, but I know that the Nigerian president only has dominion in Nigeria, which is very unlike God, God is believed to rule supreme over all His creation and He has no one like unto Him...so I should believe that when he sends ambassadors, He retains His authority, God knows best |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by jopheezy(m): 11:45am On Sep 13, 2014 |
@op, you can read the bible but you won't understand without the holy spirit, so stop relating jesus with mohammed |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by ycmdng(m): 5:06pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Akindarchi:U can't force me into ur radical/ crazy believe. Jesus speaks in parables for your likes not to understand. Jesus came to this world to redemption of the saints not slaves. No mater how many times you read the bible, inasmuch you're to an elect you will be a wanderer. Jesus is Lord |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Akindarchi(m): 6:09pm On Sep 13, 2014 |
Sorry, my bad, I thought you were serious when you said let's analyse. Okay then, I sha hope someone somewhere salvaged some good from the crazy talk I posted. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:20pm On Sep 25, 2014 |
eyeopener: Utter lengthy nonsensehypcricy again!!!....jst prove me wrong  |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by BossTtdiamonds(m): 12:48am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: Do you intentionally make your posts unusually lengthy just to piss people off... I do hope you know noone 'lld read the BS you posted above.. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 12:59am On Sep 26, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:yeah i intentionaly post long atricles if i post short ones it wont be comprehensive enough and wil not contain sophisticated eidence..........so i hve to make it comprehensive and sophisticated...if i posted a verse or 2 what i want to convey might not be understood......i just believe that a post being lenghty is not an excuse if what that person wrote is flse you can jst highlight it and prove it wrong........no matter how long the articles of you guys are i always try to read it so that i can answer them perfectly.........and that is how be suppose to be ddoing and not that we will be giving filthy excuses........LONG ARTICLE DOESNT MATTER |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by BossTtdiamonds(m): 6:57am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 7:03am On Sep 26, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: [/quote]i dont argue with nairaland nitwit anymore :- if u cant prove it wrong dont coment |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by BossTtdiamonds(m): 7:08am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: I will prove to you just how dumb you are.. Don't worry this is not my first time of makin' people look stupid.. |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 7:16am On Sep 26, 2014 |
 BossTtdiamonds:  BossTtdiamonds: OGA U DON DEY ANGRY IS THIS HOW TO PROVE SOMEONE WRONG  |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by BossTtdiamonds(m): 7:22am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: Anger you say... You have no idea who I am about.. Here a hint: Should I get angry I won't mention you. I have a strict rule of "Silence not Violence" King James taught me lol.. #RepMIAbabga... |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by Abdulsalam20(m): 10:29pm On Sep 29, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:pls if you cant prove the topic wrong why quoting me just accept it jesus is not lord final!.......he is a prophet and son of man |
| Re: Why Jesus Is Not Lord/god by BossTtdiamonds(m): 6:55am On Sep 30, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: Don't have time yet.. You know how it is now.. Tis' students and their deadline submission.. They all won't submit until it's 2/3 days to presentation.. Then you'd have to be correctin' the whole junk they've written... And the work is currently bulky.. Once I'm thru.. I'll resume the argument.. |
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