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Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by AbuuUthaymeen(m): 4:04pm On Sep 24, 2014
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by Visocrate(m): 12:52am On Sep 25, 2014
obailala:
I don't usually do this but this one really got me LoL grin grin grin cheesy cheesy
no he is too community and society what
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by Visocrate(m): 12:55am On Sep 25, 2014
iornenge81: This man is too population for this kind of statement
sorry let's cqmplete this he is too community and society or even family for making this kind of countryment
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by olatade(m): 5:54am On Sep 25, 2014
luvinhubby: I beg to differ.
Misguided muslims?. . Yes
Not muslims at all?... No




Point of correction,avoid addressing them as Muslims or islamist,they are on their own,contrary to the ethics and teachings of islam
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by gratieao: 8:08am On Sep 25, 2014
Islamic historians claim that Muhammad was born to a rich family; his grandfather Abdul Muttalib was head of his tribe and guardian of the temple of Kaba. Now the question is:

Why was Muhammad completely illiterate?

Why did his mother Amina or his grandfather Abdul Muttalib never send him to school for an education?

At Muhammad's time, many people in Arabia, particularly at his birthplace Mecca, were educated; the best poets of the world were Arab. Although their civilization was embryonic, the Arabs had eagerness for learning, particularly Arabic, Persian and other Middle Eastern languages. Women had freedom, respect and even power in society; even some tribes were headed by women, as there were also prostitutes and tawaifs (woman who danced to entertain). Arabian hospitality was well-known all around the world. Elders were respected in every family. Hindus, Christians, and Jews were living together in peace.

Yet Muhammad, grandson of a well-educated and respected head of a tribe, was completely uneducated! Why? Different Islamic historians write different stories about Muhammad’s childhood, and all of them write to hide the truth.

The truth about Muhammad’s early age is not written anywhere. The things I am about to tell you, unknown to the world, probably were roughly the truth about Muhammad's childhood. It is true that Muhammad was born in a rich family; but in his childhood, he was considered a bad luck.

Muhammad’s father died when he was still in his mother’s womb, and after this misfortune Amina lost her love for the child she was carrying in her womb. She considered it to be the indication of bad luck. She feared many more mishaps would befall her after she gave birth to the ill-fated baby. In the middle of July 571 CE, Amina gave birth to a baby boy, and she named him Kuthan, but his grandfather Abdul Muttalib changed the baby’s name to Muhammad after a few years.

Amina never breastfed Muhammad, and she always ignored him, even when, she knew, he was crying because of hunger. Amina had a slave-girl named Barakat and Barakat had a friend named Haleema, who had also given birth to a baby boy a week earlier than Amina. Amina hired Haleema to look after Muhammad as her own son. Even Haleema knew about the ill-fate of Muhammad. She refused at first, but when Amina offered her a good sum of money, she accepted.

Haleema looked after Muhammad and breastfed him. When Muhammad was only six years old his Mother died, and Haleema left him under the care of his grandfather, Abdul Muttalib. Abdul Muttalib was a very noble, God-fearing and kind-hearted man; he enrolled Muhammad in school of the tribe where children from rich families went to study.

The whole tribe considered Muhammad to be ill-fated, but no one talked openly because of Abdul Muttalib. Muhammad was not liked by anyone; no parents wanted Muhammad around their kids. Muhammad was only eight years old when Abdul Muttalib died. Abdul Muttalib had ten sons, but none of them accept Abu Talib, also a very noble and kind-hearted man, was ready to look after Muhammad, because they all considered him accursed. Despite taking the responsibility of looking after Muhammad, he still kept him away from his house and gave him place to live outside away from family. And he was never sent to school again.

 In history, what you read about Muhammad is written mostly by his Muslim followers, so it's not necessarily true. All around the world people hate Hitler, but if you read his history written by one of his followers, I am sure the picture would be different. We read American history written mostly by white Americans, but if you read American history written by a Native American, you will find Americans and Nazis to be close to each other. If you read books about George Bush written by one of his supporters, I am sure it will be different to the one written by any Iraqi sufferer whose family was killed by the American army.

Muhammad made an army and fought with non-Muslims, and he killed many non-Muslims, and until now his true followers are fighting and killing non-Muslims; that is the truth about Muhammad. Muslims and non-Muslims both accept it. Muhammad spent the critical years of his prophetic life in warring against non-Muslims. And if there was a history written about him by one of those non-Muslims whose tribes he attacked, you will see a different picture of Muhammad. This world is a market, and all are selling their different views about history. One has to use his/her reason and wisdom to choose what might be true, what mightn't.

Muhammad made a new religion because he wanted power; he wanted to rule over the people. For the first three years of his prophethood, he secured his words with caution amd made people follow him. And when he had attracted a good number of people to his cult, he formed an armed gang to fight those who were against him as well as to plunder and loot. But if there's a God, He would never approve of His chosen men to create an army to fight against his own creation, for his religion or whatsoever. If at all, men of God would walk from city to city, from village to village, from door to door, to give the message of peace. If you compare Muhammad with Guru Nanak or Buddha, you will find the truth. Nanak walked from one place to another, and spread the words of God with wisdom; he never made an army. When Muslims were in power, they horribly brutalized the Hindus, Sikh and other non-Muslims of India. In this age, you see that Muslims are living freely in Hindustan. This is because the Sikh and Hindu religion never preach to their followers to fight with Muslims or people of any other faith. On the other hand, where Muhammad was born, it has been completely cleansed of the infidels.

In Saudi Arabia, those non-Muslims allowed to come in to work (because without them Saudi Arab would become dysfunctional), they live as second-class citizens; they are not allowed to worship their God, not even allowed to carry the holy book or religious symbol. Muhammad’s followers believe that only Muslims obey ‘The God’; but, in truth, ‘Muslim’ stands for the ‘one who rejects God and follows Muhammad’s commands’. Muslim means the slave of Muhammad.

God never asks any human to fight for Him. God is all powerful. God never created mankind to fight with each other. Humans even sacrifice their own life to save others, but Muhammad’s ideology turned the God's best creation into cruel beings. Muslims blow themselves up not to save, but to kill others; because they think, Islamic Allah will reward them with a ticket to paradise for doing this.

Muhammad and his Islamic Allah divided mankind to fight and kill each other. Muhammad used the name of God to misled mankind. Muhammad said to his followers: Whoever will fight and die in the battlefield, Islamic Allah will give him 72 virgins in Heaven. I would like to ask Muslims: What reward your women will get for fighting for their Islamic Allah? Muhammad lures men to fight for him with his enemies. Muhammad brainwashed people, and made them fight for him, and until now his true followers are fighting with non-Muslims. It's the same as tactic which Hitler used to brainwash Germans, and turned them into cruel Nazis.

If at all, Men of God come to bring peace upon mankind, but the war, started by Muhammad, is still happening. Muslims continue to hate non-Muslims in the same way Muhammad taught his followers in the early days of Islam. This hatred is eternal in nature; it will not end until Islam is vanished.

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Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by tinkinjow: 8:46am On Sep 25, 2014
So after spending a year not knowing what to say, this is all he can come up with.
Question:
WY DIDN'T HE SAY SO SINCE
why didn't he condemn them all along...shame to him and his likes
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by Alisha4U(f): 9:14am On Sep 25, 2014
And I ask, was Mohammed a muslim? Please Muslims open your eyes, what is bad is bad! Read!
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by focus7: 11:18am On Sep 25, 2014
El Rufai can tell that to the gods but I don't believe him. To my best of knowledge allah is a fundamentalist, islam is a promoter of allah's terrorism (jihad) ideology, all muslims are terrorists.
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by erinolu(m): 12:15pm On Sep 25, 2014
You know you are lieing........



Abdulsalam20: 1. Terrorism is above all murder. Murder is strictly forbidden
in the Qur’an. Qur’an 6:151 says, “and do not kill a soul that
God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e. murder is
forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a
crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless
it
be for murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall
be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it
shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”
2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible
in
Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on
other people. The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in
religion. The right way has become distinct from error.” (-The
Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse was revealed in Medina in
622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any other verse
of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people into
adopting any religion. They have to willingly choose it.
3. Islamic law forbids aggressive warfare. The Quran says,
“But if the enemies incline towards peace, do you also incline
towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who
hears
and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,”
2:190, says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight
against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not
aggressors.”
4. In the Islamic law of war, not just any civil engineer can
declare or launch a war. It is the prerogative of the duly
constituted leader of the Muslim community that engages in
the war. Nowadays that would be the president or prime
minister of the state, as advised by the mufti or national
jurisconsult.
5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden.
According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first
Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you
in
ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the
infirm;
do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any
town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
6. Terrorism or hirabah is forbidden in Islamic law, which
groups it with brigandage, highway robbery and extortion
rackets– any illicit use of fear and coercion in public spaces
for money or power. The principle of forbidding the
spreading
of terror in the land is based on the Qur’an (Surah al-Ma’ida
5:33–34). Prominent [pdf] Muslim legal scholar Sherman
Jackson writes, “The Spanish Maliki jurist Ibn `Abd al-Barr
(d.
464/ 1070)) defines the agent of hiraba as ‘Anyone who
disturbs free passage in the streets and renders them unsafe
to travel, striving to spread corruption in the land by taking
money, killing people or violating what God has made it
unlawful to violate is guilty of hirabah . . .”
7. Sneak attacks are forbidden. Muslim commanders must
give the enemy fair warning that war is imminent. The
Prophet
Muhammad at one point gave 4 months notice.
8. The Prophet Muhammad counseled doing good to those
who harm you and is said to have commanded , “Do not be
people without minds of your own, saying that if others treat
you well you will treat them well, and that if they do wrong
you
will do wrong to them. Instead, accustom yourselves to do
good if people do good and not to do wrong (even) if they do
evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)
9. The Qur’an demands of believers that they exercise justice
toward people even where they have reason to be angry with
them: “And do not let the hatred of a people prevent you from
being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness.”[5:8]
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by gratieao: 1:08pm On Sep 25, 2014
focus7: El Rufai can tell that to the gods but I don't believe him. To my best of knowledge allah is a fundamentalist, islam is a promoter of allah's terrorism (jihad) ideology, all muslims are terrorists.
All Muslim are not terrorist but all terrorist are Muslim
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by emmasege: 2:09pm On Sep 25, 2014
lonelydora: Elrufai, why didn't you tell us since? Why now? Well, for your information, ALL TERRORISTS ARE MUSLIMS BUT NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS.
Gbam!
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by emmasege: 2:14pm On Sep 25, 2014
Elrufai is certainly unhappy dat BH has been decimated & dr commander crushed.
Shame on u Elrufai & ur aggrieved folks.
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by Orunto: 2:28pm On Sep 25, 2014
Brutal murderers like ISIS, ISIL and BH are Muslims and Arabs. They are definitely not Nigerians. For this reason, Nigerians, all of us, should join hands to DRIVE BH out of Nigeria. May Allah destroy bokoharam fighters and their sponsors!
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by Abdulsalam20(m): 3:23pm On Sep 25, 2014
AbuuUthaymeen:
All the verse you posted to Educate this people still won't make them desist from spewing trash and labelling all Muslims terrorist,they and the western media are only interested in promoting statements,utterances and the atrocities committed by this extremist. A brother even asked why are this people more interested in promoting terrorism by ignoring statements of middle course Muslims? Allah's help is sought.
https://www.nairaland.com/1911391/muslim-scholars-appeal-isis-release#26572546 visit this link
jazak bro seriously those guys are funny.......all what they do is to criticize they never want to learn
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by simpleseyi: 3:43pm On Sep 25, 2014
The Bible passages below seems like what ISIS, Al-Queda, Boko Haram and other evil organization are doing. Are they obeying the instructions given to them in the Bible. See reminders below

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


Deuteronomy 22:23-24
If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death.


Deuteronomy 25:11-12
If two men fight and the wife of one grabs the "secrets" of the other, "then thou shalt cut off her hand" and "thine eye shall not pity her.

1 Samuel 15:2-3
God commands the Israelites to "blot out the rembrance of Amalek from under heaven." A few hundred years later God orders Saul to kill of the Amalekites "both man and woman, infant and suckling.

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


Deuteronomy
"The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee." 28:21

"The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed." 28:24

"The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies." 28:25

"And thy carcass shall be meat to all the fowls of the air, and no man shall fray them away." 28:26

"The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and the emerods [hemorrhoids], and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst be healed." 28:27

"The Lord will smite thee with madness, and , and astonishment of heart." 28:28

"And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee." 28:29
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by focus7: 5:21pm On Sep 25, 2014
simpleseyi: The Bible passages below seems like what ISIS, Al-Queda, Boko Haram and other evil organization are doing. Are they obeying the instructions given to them in the Bible. See reminders below

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


Deuteronomy 22:23-24
If a betrothed virgin is raped in the city and doesn't cry out loud enough, then "the men of the city shall stone her to death.


Deuteronomy 25:11-12
If two men fight and the wife of one grabs the "secrets" of the other, "then thou shalt cut off her hand" and "thine eye shall not pity her.

1 Samuel 15:2-3
God commands the Israelites to "blot out the rembrance of Amalek from under heaven." A few hundred years later God orders Saul to kill of the Amalekites "both man and woman, infant and suckling.

Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.


Deuteronomy
"The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee." 28:21

"The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed." 28:24

"The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies." 28:25

"And thy carcass shall be meat to all the fowls of the air, and no man shall fray them away." 28:26

"The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and the emerods [hemorrhoids], and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst be healed." 28:27

"The Lord will smite thee with madness, and , and astonishment of heart." 28:28

"And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee." 28:29
are all these ur own response to El Rufai's claim?

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Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by dekronik: 10:58pm On Sep 25, 2014
A midget who wants to govern KD. I don't know why he didn't tweet anything today.
Re: Boko Haram Are Not Muslims- El Rufai by MeAboki(m): 2:28am On Sep 26, 2014
seunmsg: El-Rufai just asked Allah to destroy all boko haramites and people are still complaining. What do you people want him to say again? Some people just criticise others for no reason.

Don't mind them, it seems bigotry is in their blood.

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