EVarn:
i wouldnt consider myself misinformed love,because the impact of your micro business funds is barely felt,on what scale has the SA government set up business funds for people?,because in nigeria,billions of naira goes into SMSE coffers per month both from federal and state levels,everyone from those who seek to open factories to those who seek to set up shops and small retail qiosks,have access to the fund.bank loan policies have been relaxed,existing big and medium enterprises are setting up facilities to foster the up and coming ones.thats what i call economic develepment!,imagine the effects these things will generate on the long run,in few years,the economy begins to boom even more!.tell me,can that be achieved by dashing out money to able bodied men?.

MabraO:


Who is this guy? U spewing poo
Same Naija wey me nd u dey na all these u mentioned re happening yet majority if the citizens re lamenting?
Pls quit exaggerating.
Nigeria's fabulous economy is only on paper nothing more. It is something u nd I know
Damned!!

Donxavier:
I have read this thread from the beginning to the end and I must say the Nigerians here suffer from a delusional ultra nationalistic disorder. South Africa is way advanced, more infra structurally and technologically developed and light years way ahead than Nigeria. There is no hope that Nigeria can any time in the future catch up especially if JonaClueless gets his way and rigs again. This is coming from a Nigerian that does business in SA and regularly shuttles Lagos and Cape town. Where do I even want to start?.........most of the positives about nigeria described here were blatant lies and do not correspond to the reality on ground. As much as am ashamed of it, the SAns on this thread were right and spoke the blatant truth....

Nigeria is a failed state tethering on the brink of disaster.....so sad.

1. Infrastructure is terrible..... pot hole filled roads right from the airport....very bad and this goes for about 98% of the nation's road networks...potholes everywhere
2. even the Airport is crap, for a seasoned traveller and having seen many airports most definitely O.R Mambo is miles ahead of the so called MMA international infact Tambo is the only airport in Africa equipped for handling an Airbus A380 Super jumbo jet
3. I can't even compare the electricity, it's a No contest

I could go on and on and on....the ease of doing business, making money, investing......It's not even a contest. SA wins hands down, sad but true.

EVarn:
Need i say more?

craziebone:

i wonder why you still dey here dey answer all these people especially the Nigerians. These people are cynics by default. I blame the local media for their cynicism. Anything outside APC/PDP is rocket sc to them.

craziebone:
with so much reluctance; with an unbelievable magnitude of inertia, i ask: "mention the technological superirority of SA to Nigeria".

Centrifude:


We just need to mention one. Sosal a South African Company produces Synthetic Fuel and is the leading company in the commercialization of synthetic fuel *IN THE WORLD*

Sasol operates the world's only commercial Fischer Tropsch coal-to-liquids facility at Secunda, with a capacity of 150,000 barrels per day (24,000 m3/d)

Scholes007:

pls jst tell me the lies ? or do think nigeria ends in lagos...I jst travelled from uturu in Abia state to onitcha i was surprised how the road networks where of sharp contrast of what i read in Nairaland...but i dont mean we are better than SA

craziebone:


Nigeria has Zinnox- a tech company making laptops. It is the first and only indegenous African laptop and gadget maker.

We also have Innoson. The first and only African indegenous car maker.

We also have a NASDRA. It has been able to put up to 5 sattelite in orbit including Africa's only Geo stationary communication sattelite. As we speak, the NASDRA is training Africa's first Astronauts and in 2015, we will be the first African country to send into space an astronuat. I am not talking about a space tourist because i know of an SA's Mark Shuttleworth.

The NASDRA has trained Engrs. Nigeria is the first African country to be able to build a space sattelite all by her local engrs. Plans are well on the way to make sure that in 2030, Nigeria becomes the first country in Africa to launch a space sattelite on OUR OWN rocket from our own territory.

When people tell us Nigeria is behind SA in terms of technology, i just laugh!

craziebone:
@donxavier never you make any statement refering to me and say "we both know". And that's because we both don't know anything! You know a thing and i know differently.

Are you dumb? How does the CEO of zinox complaining about port duties prove that the company is not a true manufacturing company? So becuase there are issues on ground, which is normal doing business, then it means we are not making or have made head way?! Nigga, you really need to go to school!

"Leaders have gang raped us" you say? Is it leader that gang raped us that subsidizes fuel and education for your lazy arse? Is it leaders that gang raped us that have been able to raise the literacy level from 7percent at independence to over 70 percent today? Is it leaders that gang raped us that have been able to build over 20 000km of paved roads? Is it leaders that have gang raped us that have been able to fix a high speed rail that some foreign observers call "world class"? Is it leaders that have gang raped us that have been able to stand up for you when you were maltreated in India and SA? Is it leaders that have gang raped you that respected you and decided to return at least a part of your fuel subsidy when you foolishly asked that the unsustainable, detrimental and fraudulent subsidy regime continues? You people like condemning the leader forgeting that the leaders came from among you and that he reflects your average mentality.

Nigeria is cursed for having your likes in huge numbers. Niger, Chad, Somalia, Djibouti, Angola and the DRC have not been able to achieve what we've been able to achieve yet, you don't get so much cynicism from their citizens.

craziebone:
@donxavier don't say what you don't know. If Nigeria is a non manufacturing country, then no one in Africa is, not even SA! This is because we have the largest manufacuring sector in the whole of Africa, fact! Over 5percent of our over 520bn dollar GDP is way more than SA's 7percent of their 370bn dollar GDP. The whole idea of Nigeria is not a manufacturing country is nonsense, at least by Africa's standard.

And no, we have diversified. Last year, our non oil revenue collected by the Federal Inland Revenue Service has grown to almost equal oil revenue. How on earth do we continue to say Nigeria is an oil dependent country when the break down of our GDP clearly shows great contribution from the financial, manufacturing, etc sectors?

Fyi, nuclear power doesn't mean nuclear energy. SA has nuclear energy but not nuclear power. There is a difference. I am not trying to beef SA. If they are getting it right, then good for them! What i do not like is when Nigerians come on cyber space to say all sort of nonsense and pass it off as fact.

The space tech is not another way to loot money. How much even goes into the space research in the first place that you think it will be another avenue to loot money? Anyone who wants to do real looting won't be concerned about the ministry of science and technology.

As for R&, Nigeria makes some of her own military hardwares today, from OPVs, APCs and drones.

Donxavier:


At least we agree on Lagos ....I have never been to the east before, but am very sure most of the road networks there all show the general symptoms of the diseased network system that is plaguing the country, debilitated old potholed filled roads almost everywhere unless someone can show me PROOF to the contrary.....Please answer this, Is there any stretch of road in the whole of Nigeria where you can drive for 100km-500km without encountering pot holes

Even the Uturu to Onitcha road you have referenced here, give it 2 years....it would all be bad. Nigeria has no or lacks any kind of maintenance culture. Fact

Scholes007:

lol maybe

craziebone:


Nigeria has Zinnox- a tech company making laptops. It is the first and only indegenous African laptop and gadget maker.

We also have Innoson. The first and only African indegenous car maker.

We also have a NASDRA. It has been able to put up to 5 sattelite in orbit including Africa's only Geo stationary communication sattelite. As we speak, the NASDRA is training Africa's first Astronauts and in 2015, we will be the first African country to send into space an astronuat. I am not talking about a space tourist because i know of an SA's Mark Shuttleworth.

The NASDRA has trained Engrs. Nigeria is the first African country to be able to build a space sattelite all by her local engrs. Plans are well on the way to make sure that in 2030, Nigeria becomes the first country in Africa to launch a space sattelite on OUR OWN rocket from our own territory.

When people tell us Nigeria is behind SA in terms of technology, i just laugh!

craziebone:
@donxavier don't say what you don't know. If Nigeria is a non manufacturing country, then no one in Africa is, not even SA! This is because we have the largest manufacuring sector in the whole of Africa, fact! Over 5percent of our over 520bn dollar GDP is way more than SA's 7percent of their 370bn dollar GDP. The whole idea of Nigeria is not a manufacturing country is nonsense, at least by Africa's standard.

And no, we have diversified. Last year, our non oil revenue collected by the Federal Inland Revenue Service has grown to almost equal oil revenue. How on earth do we continue to say Nigeria is an oil dependent country when the break down of our GDP clearly shows great contribution from the financial, manufacturing, etc sectors?

Fyi, nuclear power doesn't mean nuclear energy. SA has nuclear energy but not nuclear power. There is a difference. I am not trying to beef SA. If they are getting it right, then good for them! What i do not like is when Nigerians come on cyber space to say all sort of nonsense and pass it off as fact.

The space tech is not another way to loot money. How much even goes into the space research in the first place that you think it will be another avenue to loot money? Anyone who wants to do real looting won't be concerned about the ministry of science and technology.

As for R&, Nigeria makes some of her own military hardwares today, from OPVs, APCs and drones.

craziebone:
@donxavier don't say what you don't know. If Nigeria is a non manufacturing country, then no one in Africa is, not even SA! This is because we have the largest manufacuring sector in the whole of Africa, fact! Over 5percent of our over 520bn dollar GDP is way more than SA's 7percent of their 370bn dollar GDP. The whole idea of Nigeria is not a manufacturing country is nonsense, at least by Africa's standard.

And no, we have diversified. Last year, our non oil revenue collected by the Federal Inland Revenue Service has grown to almost equal oil revenue. How on earth do we continue to say Nigeria is an oil dependent country when the break down of our GDP clearly shows great contribution from the financial, manufacturing, etc sectors?

Fyi, nuclear power doesn't mean nuclear energy. SA has nuclear energy but not nuclear power. There is a difference. I am not trying to beef SA. If they are getting it right, then good for them! What i do not like is when Nigerians come on cyber space to say all sort of nonsense and pass it off as fact.

The space tech is not another way to loot money. How much even goes into the space research in the first place that you think it will be another avenue to loot money? Anyone who wants to do real looting won't be concerned about the ministry of science and technology.

As for R&, Nigeria makes some of her own military hardwares today, from OPVs, APCs and drones.

14:


Check out this:

http://www.necsa.co.za/

http://www.eskom.co.za/Whatweredoing/ElectricityGeneration/KoebergNuclearPowerStation/Pages/Koeberg_Power_Station.aspx

all4naija:
Your country hasn't learnt a lesson from Fukushima nuclear disaster! Keep thinking having nuclear plant is real power when you are going to gradually face huge nuclear radiation when the conditions of the nuclear plant deteriorate and make it to crumble. I can see some of the parts look very weak and rusty. Jeez!

all4naija:
Your country hasn't learnt a lesson from Fukushima nuclear disaster! Keep thinking having nuclear plant is real power when you are going to gradually face huge nuclear radiation when the conditions of the nuclear plant deteriorate and make it to crumble. I can see some of the parts look very weak and rusty. Jeez!

naijaclinic:
Nigerians sha! We get mouth. Oya talk true u get light to charge ur phone for this yans. Cos I wan come charge small o. Ba3 abt to die...

14:
Kusile Power station, 4 800MW, coming on line in 2017. We ain't playing, less talk more action.

ActivateKruger:


The dumb ANC has;

- Built hundreds of thousands of houses for the poor who would otherwise live in shacks and mud houses
- They have build more schools and clinics than any other government in Africa
- Building modern infrastructure
- Build sporting facilitates
- Hosted the Rugby World Cup
- Hosted the Cricket World Cup
- Hosted the Soccer World Cup
- Provided free tertiary education to those who couldn't afford
- Provided grants for disabled and orphans who wouldn't have means to feed themselves

[size=14pt]What has your government done for Nigerians? NOTHING [/size]