A7:



Taraba, Adamawa and kaduna are not in the middle belt, I advice yoU brush your knowledge of the nations geo political zones first before discussing politics.

sharrrrrrap,ur kmowledge is stained already,the is geapolitical zone as middle belt.dont confuse north central for middle belt,the middle is an enclave from the core noth and noeth central or what i call the non hausa/fulani northern minorities,but wen these minorities combine ,they have more population than the so called core north.

Nobody should ever use NORTH CENTRAL as a correct definition to d middlebelt region, because d term north central is one that was just coined 'yesterday' by Babangida, when he did d geo political zone definition.

The middlebelt as an identity for all Northern minority groups has started very long ago (decades ago). And then u were qualified to be called a middlebelter as long as u are from the northern region and u are not a HAUSA/fulani or Kanuri person.
So the real definition of the middlebelt means ALL NORTHERN MINORITY GROUPS.
The term north central is just a very confined definition.
Ty Danjuma who is a Jukun man.from Taraba state was d chairman of THE MIDDLEBELT FORUM for many years, likewise Dan Suleiman, a longuda man from Adamawa.
Southern Kaduna people have also identified with the middlebelt since decades ago and have also produced various leaders of middlebelt socio cultural organisations.

The middle belt has Benue, Kwara, Kogi, Nassarawa, Niger and Plateau states in its fold. Majority of Benue and Plateau do not want to be associated with the North.They are the' Middle belters'. To them, North is synonymous with Islam and backwardness and so they do not belong there. One can still have a handful of them in Kogi and Nassarawa states. The middle belt agitators are all Christians because the middle belt concept is not political but religious. They have grudges with the 'core North' that they are only used and dumped. Note that Gowon, Babangida and Abdussalam are all from there but the duo of Babangida and Absussalam are not seen as middle belters because they are Muslims. They are still 'marginalised'. There is an unholy alliance between them and the Christian south who have sympathy for them because they are being 'oppressed'. The region has vast and untapped solid mineral resources and is rich in agriculture. I assume they talk fire and brimstone because Nigeria still remains 'one'. They will always have solidarity with their sympathisers. If Nigeria should divide, they will be trapped at the middle. The South will never accept them as their own because whether they like it or not, to an average Southerner, they are also abokis and mallams. They have ruined their relationship with the North unnecessarily and they are not welcome in the south. They have even extended their 'middle belt' up to Niger, Taraba, Kaduna and Adamawa. Though these states have many Christians in their fold, they still see themselves as Northerners largely. The agitation will die naturally because no sympathisers and the North they see as an enemy is the only place they have. They will be accepted back with caution. Plateau and Benue states alone cannot form a country.

kettykin:
The middle belt quandary
If you vote Buhari and Buhari wins then the gains on middle belt independence will be reversed as the Buharist will continue their conquest of the the Savannah states like the Adamawa , Gombe, Nassarawa , Fulani herdsmen will be given an upper hand in their fight to displace the native farmers in benue, southern Kaduna, Jos and environs.

If you vote Goodluck , the present wars with Islamic fundamentalist will continue with raids of middle belt villages and the growth of Islamic caliphates in the southern Borno Axis which would lead to attacks in southern kaduna and jos area which is fueled by the worldwide desire and aim of Muslim fundamentalist ISIS to expand their control of the world.

Either way the middle belt is in a very difficult and precarious situation , more difficult than the situation which they found themselves in 1966 and which they mismanaged very badly.
They middle belt had one of their own Gen Gowon in the helms of power and rather than use that oppotunity to free themselves from the yoke of their Hausa/fulani slave masters they joined them in a short moment of frenzy to perpetuate the worst form of human genocide ever know to mankind and in the process they were used and dumped in the dustbin of history like Ahmadu Bello predicted in his infamous speech of 1960 shown below

The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grandfather Othman Dan Fodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We use the minorities in the north as willing tools and the south as a conquered territory and never allow them to rule over us and never allow them to have control over their future." – Parrot Newspaper October 12, 1960

As Nigeria's latest endangered specie, i cannot really offer them any advice because the people that plunged them into this mess ; Yakubu Gowon and TY Danjuma are still unrepentant of their misadventure while their co travelers in the Niger Delta are now fully awake and ready to look their predators face to face

Guys, please don't be confused. All he's saying is, the right for the Middle Belt to do is vote Jonathan.

abbakacici:
we have 2 type of Middle belt,
1) religion : to this person middle belt is any place in north Nigerian with reason Christians population therefore to him core middle belt are Plateau and Benue follow by Kogi, Nassarawa, Taraba, Adamawa, southern kaduna, southern Borno and southern Gombe (most people who used this definition are from Benue and southern Kogi )
2)Political and Tribal Definition : this is used by the Government to dividend Political position, this is north central states

A7:


Exactly, the former are bigoted secessionist with heinous agenda born out out of greed, the later were bridge breaking hypocrites. In any case they are all cowards.

Whaaaat? So Middle Belters are now 'secessionists with heinous agenda born out out of greed,' wheww!

Perhaps I was asleep or away when Middle Belters sought to secede. Please does anyone have a link to this new info? This news is a sure a big bang.

NafeesaAA:
The middle belt has Benue, Kwara, Kogi, Nassarawa, Niger and Plateau states in its fold. Majority of Benue and Plateau do not want to be associated with the North.They are the' Middle belters'. To them, North is synonymous with Islam and backwardness and so they do not belong there. One can still have a handful of them in Kogi and Nassarawa states. The middle belt agitators are all Christians because the middle belt concept is not political but religious. They have grudges with the 'core North' that they are only used and dumped. Note that Gowon, Babangida and Abdussalam are all from there but the duo of Babangida and Absussalam are not seen as middle belters because they are Muslims. They are still 'marginalised'. There is an unholy alliance between them and the Christian south who have sympathy for them because they are being 'oppressed'. The region has vast and untapped solid mineral resources and is rich in agriculture. I assume they talk fire and brimstone because Nigeria still remains 'one'. They will always have solidarity with their sympathisers. If Nigeria should divide, they will be trapped at the middle. The South will never accept them as their own because whether they like it or not, to an average Southerner, they are also abokis and mallams. They have ruined their relationship with the North unnecessarily and they are not welcome in the south. They have even extended their 'middle belt' up to Niger, Taraba, Kaduna and Adamawa. Though these states have many Christians in their fold, they still see themselves as Northerners largely. The agitation will die naturally because no sympathisers and the North they see as an enemy is the only place they have. They will be accepted back with caution. Plateau and Benue states alone cannot form a country.

You are dumb, when shyt hits the fan everybody will find their square root trust me. To southerners they are all mallams abi? & no one will accept them? you are really dumb . Are you aware that there are yorubas in Kogi and Kwara? Are you also aware that this group of people are ever longing to be with their folks in the SW? Are you also aware that there are Igbos in parts of Benue & Kogi that are ever ready to join their folks back in the SE?

Those that'l probably bear the brunt in the event of a break up are the other minority groups that have no where to associate with. & trust me lady, they most likely will prefer to live with their differences than pitch their tent with north...best believe that

Better wake up & smell the coffee & please snap out of your self delusion and baseless assumptions.

These àbokis are so full of 'emselves at times.

north central is not for pdp nor gej the salivator

i am an okun man. from kogi state

goodgood2:
Guys, please don't be confused. All he's saying is, the right for the Middle Belt to do is vote Jonathan.

right kor left ni. Everyone have the right to vote a candidate of their choice and not someone bringing some silly excuse to sell their candidate.

NafeesaAA:
The middle belt has Benue, Kwara, Kogi, Nassarawa, Niger and Plateau states in its fold. Majority of Benue and Plateau do not want to be associated with the North.They are the' Middle belters'. To them, North is synonymous with Islam and backwardness and so they do not belong there. One can still have a handful of them in Kogi and Nassarawa states. The middle belt agitators are all Christians because the middle belt concept is not political but religious. They have grudges with the 'core North' that they are only used and dumped. Note that Gowon, Babangida and Abdussalam are all from there but the duo of Babangida and Absussalam are not seen as middle belters because they are Muslims. They are still 'marginalised'. There is an unholy alliance between them and the Christian south who have sympathy for them because they are being 'oppressed'. The region has vast and untapped solid mineral resources and is rich in agriculture. I assume they talk fire and brimstone because Nigeria still remains 'one'. They will always have solidarity with their sympathisers. If Nigeria should divide, they will be trapped at the middle. The South will never accept them as their own because whether they like it or not, to an average Southerner, they are also abokis and mallams. They have ruined their relationship with the North unnecessarily and they are not welcome in the south. They have even extended their 'middle belt' up to Niger, Taraba, Kaduna and Adamawa. Though these states have many Christians in their fold, they still see themselves as Northerners largely. The agitation will die naturally because no sympathisers and the North they see as an enemy is the only place they have. They will be accepted back with caution. Plateau and Benue states alone cannot form a country.

This here is the dumbest shit I have read on nairaland for a long while. When T.Y Danjuma from Taraba was president of middle belt forum where were you? I don't know why the concept of middle belt gives these hausas some shiver down their spine. Get it we are not together alright? you guyz have made that abundantly clear and since the onset of this Republic check out how the voting patterns have been over the years you will get an idea of what am talking about. My southern kaduna alone with a population figure of 3 million plus is more populated than countries such as Botswana, Mauritania, Gabon, Namibia, Gambia, equatorial guinea, lots of other countries in Africa Europe and the world. Have some education young girl!

NafeesaAA:
The middle belt has Benue, Kwara, Kogi, Nassarawa, Niger and Plateau states in its fold. Majority of Benue and Plateau do not want to be associated with the North.They are the' Middle belters'. To them, North is synonymous with Islam and backwardness and so they do not belong there. One can still have a handful of them in Kogi and Nassarawa states. The middle belt agitators are all Christians because the middle belt concept is not political but religious. They have grudges with the 'core North' that they are only used and dumped. Note that Gowon, Babangida and Abdussalam are all from there but the duo of Babangida and Absussalam are not seen as middle belters because they are Muslims. They are still 'marginalised'. There is an unholy alliance between them and the Christian south who have sympathy for them because they are being 'oppressed'. The region has vast and untapped solid mineral resources and is rich in agriculture. I assume they talk fire and brimstone because Nigeria still remains 'one'. They will always have solidarity with their sympathisers. If Nigeria should divide, they will be trapped at the middle. The South will never accept them as their own because whether they like it or not, to an average Southerner, they are also abokis and mallams. They have ruined their relationship with the North unnecessarily and they are not welcome in the south. They have even extended their 'middle belt' up to Niger, Taraba, Kaduna and Adamawa. Though these states have many Christians in their fold, they still see themselves as Northerners largely. The agitation will die naturally because no sympathisers and the North they see as an enemy is the only place they have. They will be accepted back with caution. Plateau and Benue states alone cannot form a country.

Yo!!! This shyte reeks of crass dumbness laced with ignorance.

Were you getting banged in the batty when you wrote this gibberish, lol?

abuja lokoja road dualization just to mention one out of many while Gej will win our votes come 2015

By your definition it means gowon, ibb, abdulsalam, tafaw balewa, atiku, are all from middlebelt... who is fooling who then? You guys destroy nigeria

Those who are insulting NafeesaAA are just ignorant and most of them have not even been to the so called middle belt and feel what is happening there. The name middle belt nowadays is a creation of some disgruntled northern minority Christians who wanted a separate region for themselves apart from the north. Nafeesa mentioned in her post that IBB, Abdulsalam are from Niger and should be middle belters but they have never been recognized in the middle belt forum cos they are muslims
truth be told the middle belt agitator s have a very valid point but they are biased in that they are all Christians and their agitation is purely religious.the agitation started with J S tarka and co but they were not religious in their agitation but wanted development and a distinct identity for their region.
the northern hegemony created by ahmadu bello was a united north with various ethnic and religious groups living in peace and harmony
most so called minority northerners know their tribe and language but they all speak the Hausa language and many even know Hausa more than their own Language.
like nafeesa also mentioned the north is the only place that the middle belters will feel at home in case of a break up of Nigeria.

whatever the middle belt is today, the core north made it.

I was born and raised in the middle belt and I will vote for Goodluck Jonathan.

The middilebelters said no to slavery, idiotas from the waste part of nigeria should leave them alone! Serve ur gambari slave master alone

idumuose:

Southern Kaduna precisely is in the middle belt.The whole of Taraba and some part of Adamawa,southern Gombe,southern Borno.

Is your own belt tight to your chest? I thought the belt is always in the middle. Funny you referred to southern Borno as middle belt. Really your desperation is beyond common sense.

asamaigho:


sharrrrrrap,ur kmowledge is stained already,the is geapolitical zone as middle belt.dont confuse north central for middle belt,the middle is an enclave from the core noth and noeth central or what i call the non hausa/fulani northern minorities,but wen these minorities combine ,they have more population than the so called core north.

North Central or middle belt still falls in the same geographical area. Your reference to the minority tribes in the north is not correct as you've conveniently skipped to add religion which is the tool the elite are using to lulling the masses into supporting this agenda.

When you talk of minority tribes in the north remember there is no state in the whole north that is homogeneous. And no tribe that is 100% Muslim or Christian.

Does anyone blame Middle Belters?

The quest for freedom is a universal human trait irrespective of its inclusion and designation in UN's charter as one of man's fundamental rights. Therefore, it's idiotic as well as monstrously subhuman for any power or group to deny another its right for freedom. We saw it happen in Sudan, the Caucuses, Indonesia vs Papua Guinea, Indonesia vs East Timor, Turkey vs Kurds, and Nigeria. Sadly, in all the places it happened or still happening, thousands and millions of body count has shown the ludicrousness of powers or govts bent on denying others their God-given freedom.

Of all the 3 major ethnic groups in Nigeria, the Hausa-Fulani core north is the only group still clubbing and harassing the minorities in her supposedly 'power enclave.' In life things change and one has to move on. Lord Lugard and Nigeria's independence era are long gone, hence the need to embrace a new day with new realities. If today Middle Belters are redefining themselves as Christians in the north then I suggest we let them be - if it works out for them, fine! If not, their problem.

Perhaps if Hausa-Fulani had treated them with less violence, who knows? Maybe they would still be in bed with One North ideology today. At any rate, its no use crying over the evaporation of one big north now.

Rollingsbaba:
Those who are insulting NafeesaAA are just ignorant and most of them have not even been to the so called middle belt and feel what is happening there. The name middle belt nowadays is a creation of some disgruntled northern minority Christians who wanted a separate region for themselves apart from the north. Nafeesa mentioned in her post that IBB, Abdulsalam are from Niger and should be middle belters but they have never been recognized in the middle belt forum cos they are muslims
truth be told the middle belt agitator s have a very valid point but they are biased in that they are all Christians and their agitation is purely religious.the agitation started with J S tarka and co but they were not religious in their agitation but wanted development and a distinct identity for their region.
the northern hegemony created by ahmadu bello was a united north with various ethnic and religious groups living in peace and harmony
most so called minority northerners know their tribe and language but they all speak the Hausa language and many even know Hausa more than their own Language.
like nafeesa also mentioned the north is the only place that the middle belters will feel at home in case of a break up of Nigeria.

whatever the middle belt is today, the core north made it.

Mr Man, IBB and Abdulsalami cannot be regarded middlebelters, not because they are muslims but because they are not of indigenous middlebelt tribes by origin. Neither Abdulsalami nor IBB are nupes or gwari, they both have hausa fulani fathers who migrated to settle in Minna, Niger state.

NafeesaAA:
The middle belt has Benue, Kwara, Kogi, Nassarawa, Niger and Plateau states in its fold. Majority of Benue and Plateau do not want to be associated with the North.They are the' Middle belters'. To them, North is synonymous with Islam and backwardness and so they do not belong there. One can still have a handful of them in Kogi and Nassarawa states. The middle belt agitators are all Christians because the middle belt concept is not political but religious. They have grudges with the 'core North' that they are only used and dumped. Note that Gowon, Babangida and Abdussalam are all from there but the duo of Babangida and Absussalam are not seen as middle belters because they are Muslims. They are still 'marginalised'. There is an unholy alliance between them and the Christian south who have sympathy for them because they are being 'oppressed'. The region has vast and untapped solid mineral resources and is rich in agriculture. I assume they talk fire and brimstone because Nigeria still remains 'one'. They will always have solidarity with their sympathisers. If Nigeria should divide, they will be trapped at the middle. The South will never accept them as their own because whether they like it or not, to an average Southerner, they are also abokis and mallams. They have ruined their relationship with the North unnecessarily and they are not welcome in the south. They have even extended their 'middle belt' up to Niger, Taraba, Kaduna and Adamawa. Though these states have many Christians in their fold, they still see themselves as Northerners largely. The agitation will die naturally because no sympathisers and the North they see as an enemy is the only place they have. They will be accepted back with caution. Plateau and Benue states alone cannot form a country.

Na war! These few words of dismissal for over 200 ethnic groups in the NC.

Funny enough, I have an NC Muslim friend who refused to go back to a particular mosque after a particularly hate filled sermon directed against "Arne Plateau". A lot of the criticism I have heard were actually ethnic (directed at Hausas and Fulani) rather than strictly religious. I understand that a number of Kogi, Niger and Osun state indigenes were killed during the Kaduna Sharia riots even though they were fellow Muslims. The issues are complex and can't be tied to religion or ethnicity in a simple way.

Wow! So many people here, confidently displaying crass illiteracy.

Iconize is the worst of them

instead of voting gej iwill vote hipopotamous

kettykin:
The middle belt quandary
If you vote Buhari and Buhari wins then the gains on middle belt independence will be reversed as the Buharist will continue their conquest of the the Savannah states like the Adamawa , Gombe, Nassarawa , Fulani herdsmen will be given an upper hand in their fight to displace the native farmers in benue, southern Kaduna, Jos and environs.

If you vote Goodluck , the present wars with Islamic fundamentalist will continue with raids of middle belt villages and the growth of Islamic caliphates in the southern Borno Axis which would lead to attacks in southern kaduna and jos area which is fueled by the worldwide desire and aim of Muslim fundamentalist ISIS to expand their control of the world.

Either way the middle belt is in a very difficult and precarious situation , more difficult than the situation which they found themselves in 1966 and which they mismanaged very badly.
They middle belt had one of their own Gen Gowon in the helms of power and rather than use that oppotunity to free themselves from the yoke of their Hausa/fulani slave masters they joined them in a short moment of frenzy to perpetuate the worst form of human genocide ever know to mankind and in the process they were used and dumped in the dustbin of history like Ahmadu Bello predicted in his infamous speech of 1960 shown below

The new nation called Nigeria should be an estate of our great grandfather Othman Dan Fodio. We must ruthlessly prevent a change of power. We use the minorities in the north as willing tools and the south as a conquered territory and never allow them to rule over us and never allow them to have control over their future." – Parrot Newspaper October 12, 1960

As Nigeria's latest endangered specie, i cannot really offer them any advice because the people that plunged them into this mess ; Yakubu Gowon and TY Danjuma are still unrepentant of their misadventure while their co travelers in the Niger Delta are now fully awake and ready to look their predators face to face

Thanks.