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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 3:22pm On Nov 25, 2014
hansad:


Most of the countries you show photos of their glittering airports practice Regional govt system with Fiscal federalism. The regions build and maintain their regional airports.

But here, some Nigerians clutch tightly to unitary govt system where Abuja has to collect revenues (mainly oyel money only) to build and maintain infrastructure all over Nigeria, then share the rest to states. Did Washington DC, US seat of power, build and maintain JFK airport and other beautiful airports in the US?

Hands off unitary govt in Nigeria, embrace regional govts, let the regions build their airports and other facilities to their taste, internal competition to build the best shall then follow.

But you guys will never allow regionalism and fiscal federalism, because of huge taste for Oyel money, instead, brainwash some gullible Nigerians to get apex political power using ever tactic in the book.
stop this trash ur saying . Wtf is oyel money , you are sick man. Those airports are federal airports , built and maintained by federal govt , some states have got their airports. The pictures shown is just kenya. Dude , go see a doctor.
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 3:22pm On Nov 25, 2014
theM16:


So good some people here are still sane, because with people like you..honestly nigeria has a grave prognosis. You are so fanatic its affecting your sense of reasoning. So BH is why our airports are still ugly despite huge amount of money they claimed to have spent. So they spent all funds on BH there is no more for other things...except buying bulletproof cars, organizing stupid and senseless celebrations and awards for oct 1st. You better use your brain for what its meant for. See pictures of kenya's airport! Shame
that guy is sick man

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 3:27pm On Nov 25, 2014
denisfidha:
The JKIA greenfield Terminal or Terminal 3 which will have its own runway(s), dedicated Railway, highway will be able to handle 20 million Passengers annually compared to 6 million passengers that the current JKIA airport can handle. It will have one of the biggest open ground spaces (for passernger traffic) an airport can have Construction already begun this year..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHY0C1I3e2g


All these projects have been fast tracked to be completed before schedule only after the fire that burnt the airport.... If it wasn't for the fire, all this will probably still be just talk and dreams which were never going to come to reality


Artistic impression of terminal 3
can you create a thread and upload these pictures , it may be moved to front page , so people can have their say really . We are not campaigning for or against any party . We just want transparency and accountability to come to stay in this country.

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 3:52pm On Nov 25, 2014
mrmetoo1:


You're not boring us at all, I think we need more of these to show what can be done when leaders get serious. This started in 2013, this is for all those that talk crap about it can't be done overnight. Then it'll also help us to know how much has been spent.

When you say burn our airports, I think you still give us a lot of credit. I think you think our problem is inaction, not its not. Our problem is corruption, dishonesty, greed. A lot has been put into these airports that have been ranked among the worst in Africa. A lot of money has been poured into it and yet we can't boast of good toilet. The pro-presidency group however tout the development of the airports as one of his main achievements


The cost of the whole terminal 1A is US$72.3 million (Kshs6.3 billion), that's might be quite a bit according to Kenyan standards since our GDP is only US$55 Billion and government expenditure is only US$20 Billion. By Nigerian starndards, with 72.3 million dollars, you wont even feel a pinch. in Addition, the cost of the furniture and interior design of the two lounges (Simba and Pride lounge) cost only about 2 million.

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by mrmetoo1: 3:52pm On Nov 25, 2014
kaboninc:


I followed you for a reason. But honestly, you're disappointing me.

Can't you be objective in your argument for once? Must you stick to what you think you know? Or must you always believe everything you hear especially about GEJ from the opposition?

Haba bro!

Dude please educate me. Look the truth is I'm not impressed with our present government and I don't hide it. If I see what they've done, believe me I'll commend them. You say I'm saying what I think I know, look at my posts and you'll see I write from what I know.

December, I arrived to a hot airport and leaky roofs. Long lines with an express line for non-citizens (its the other way around in other countries but oh well). Bribe being asked from every corner you turn but that's ok. Getting out of the parking lot was a nightmare with potholes all around the PARKING LOT, as in parking lot, a PAID PARKING LOT. I went back to the airport to drop wifey in January still hot, went back in May to pick her up, still hot she had a worse experience this time around maybe because she was travelling alone with a baby but thats ok. 2 weeks ago my friend came in and still mentioned the leaky roofs at arrival. Couple of days after went to drop off wifey at the airport again, airport still hot. In December, I'm going go through this again this time it'll be me experiencing the departure and arrival myself, if anything has changed I'll update you.

If I haven't been objective enough please let me know

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 3:54pm On Nov 25, 2014
majekdom2:
can you create a thread and upload these pictures , it may be moved to front page , so people can have their say really . We are not campaigning for or against any party . We just want transparency and accountability to come to stay in this country.
OK, cool
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by mrmetoo1: 4:09pm On Nov 25, 2014
denisfidha:



The cost of the whole terminal 1A is US$72.3 million (Kshs6.3 billion), that's might be quite a bit according to Kenyan standards since our GDP is only US$55 Billion and government expenditure is only US$20 Billion. By Nigerian starndards, with 72.3 million dollars, you wont even feel a pinch. in Addition, the cost of the furniture and interior design of the two lounges (Simba and Pride lounge) cost only about 2 million.

Ok so over a billion dollars is reported to have been spent to rehabilitate the airports and we can't boast of good toilets. We should at least be able to show off 13 terminal 1A's with the money spent.

I'm sorry for letting you go through the trouble of giving us the info on how much has been spent on building the Kenyan airport when we could have easily googled it but if I wrote it, some folks here would have called me a liar.

What's crazy about this is, I'm sure the Kenyan government has somehow "chopped" money from this project but at least the results are there for everyone to see.

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Drone007: 4:24pm On Nov 25, 2014
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Source: http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/lead-story/187758-nigerian-airports-among-the-worst-in-africa-faan-differs
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And where do they place Lungi International, Freetown-Sierra Leone and Roberts International Airport, Monrovia-Liberia?
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by hansad: 4:24pm On Nov 25, 2014
majekdom2:
stop this trash ur saying . Wtf is oyel money , you are sick man. Those airports are federal airports , built and maintained by federal govt , some states have got their airports. The pictures shown is just kenya. Dude , go see a doctor.
As usual, an insane person first calls people mad. You never contested my claim that regional govts build and maintain better infrastructures. Did Washington DC build JFK, or Dakota airports among others? Do you even understand that Nigeria is only federal republic in name, that Nigeria practices a worst form of unitary govt in place of federal system? Face reality, accros a wide Nigeria, your Federal govt of Nigeria comprising a few persons in charge in Abuja, can never build and maintain the type of infrastructures you expect, even if Oyel money tripples. But love for Oyel money will never allow your lot to vote for Fiscal federalism and regional govt system returned to Nigeria. Fiscal federalism with regional govt system is only system of govt that can enable the building of glittering infrastructures like the ones you show from other countries. So long as Oyel money gets Nigeria stuck with unitary govt system, yo have to continue to bring us pix from other functional countries for comparison with Nigeria's whose people refruse to embrace a suitable political system.
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 4:52pm On Nov 25, 2014
hansad:
As usual, an insane person first calls people mad. You never contested my claim that regional govts build and maintain better infrastructures. Did Washington DC build JFK, or Dakota airports among others? Do you even understand that Nigeria is only federal republic in name, that Nigeria practices a worst form of unitary govt in place of federal system? Face reality, accros a wide Nigeria, your Federal govt of Nigeria comprising a few persons in charge in Abuja, can never build and maintain the type of infrastructures you expect, even if Oyel money tripples. But love for Oyel money will never allow your lot to vote for Fiscal federalism and regional govt system returned to Nigeria. Fiscal federalism with regional govt system is only system of govt that can enable the building of glittering infrastructures like the ones you show from other countries. So long as Oyel money gets Nigeria stuck with unitary govt system, yo have to continue to bring us pix from other functional countries for comparison with Nigeria's whose people refruse to embrace a suitable political system.
old/ young man , the debate is not true federalism or the type of govt or not , the argument is where is the transformation in these airports , it is better the govt keeps mum on these project than to claim they have done something. The already destroyed image is being deterred more.the airports being compared are in Africa here . Argue like you comprehend English language. Are there no federal govt owned airports in America. The information on the thread is not what form of govt we should practice ,we seen and heard that couple of times .as long as it is this calibre of individuals that are in power , whatever form of govt being practiced will continue to fail.
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Parolee: 5:09pm On Nov 25, 2014
all4naija:
Oh, shut it! When we are talking about standardization of our airports we mean compare to the best in the world not Township kinds of airports found in South Africa. Bwahaha... Do you know what I mean? grin grin grin

Go Nigeria, the true GIANT of Africa.

You are going to derail the topic at hand with posts like this. Let your government bring your airports to international standards first......thereafter you can talk about township standard airports. How's that?

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Parolee: 5:19pm On Nov 25, 2014
denisfidha:
Not Hating or anything - What you guys need to do is burn your airports!!!! Kenya doesn't have any airport ranked in either among the best or the worst in that list. If anyone can recall the fire that gutted part of the JKIA airport in Nairobi that forced the government to create a temporary tent and use a parking garage as an international arrival terminal- that was probably the lowest the airport service has ever gone, Arriving in a country in a plane where the arrival terminal is a tent!! But Looking back now, it was probably the best thing that happened to that airport, delayed mordarnization projects were forced to be fast tracked and as of June this year, The 1st quater of the terminal complete and is completely amazing. After the terminal will be complete, and the new green terminal built from scratch which will be completed in 2018, Not even South Africa will come close.
If you allow me, Am posting pics of the JKIA when on fire in 2013, the new terminal 1A, and the under-construction Greenfield Terminal



JKIA international Arrival Terminal on fire in August 2013

Reckless statement....."not even south Africa will come close".

Problem here is that people build one structure and celebrate as if the country is awash with those structures. Look here in SA, we got quite a few that meet international standards. Even smaller airports like East London, KMIA etc are far better than some main airports in Africa. So you need to take care when you want to post negatively about SA. Else, you may find yourself with egg on your face.

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 5:38pm On Nov 25, 2014
Parolee:


Reckless statement....."not even south Africa will come close".

Problem here is that people build one structure and celebrate as if the country is awash with those structures. Look here in SA, we got quite a few that meet international standards. Even smaller airports like East London, KMIA etc are far better than some main airports in Africa. So you need to take care when you want to post negatively about SA. Else, you may find yourself with egg on your face.

Its not one structure, JKIA is the only terminal that has been completed, others are currently bieng upgraded, there is even an new airport in the coastal tourist town of Malindi that was to be constructed to replace the small one near the town, but it was too big that there was no land to fit all of it and it had to be moved about 40 km away, to nowhere, if the costruction starts, it is build to rival even the main airport JKIA so many things to come. Add that to the other Internationa airport to be built close to Lamu where the 32 berth sea-port that will link a pipeline, rail and road to Ethiopia, Uganda and S.Sudan. But alshabaab will have to be eliminated completely close to the boder with somalia so that the airport won't become a ghost town after 5 years of opening
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by holatin(m): 5:47pm On Nov 25, 2014
mehn Thanks to Jonathan fresh air.
the ministry is moving
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by elohorayodele: 6:42pm On Nov 25, 2014
slightlyMad:
Not even in the world, worst in AFRICA, i.e worst of the worst

on the other thread, a dude was attempting to brand a 1914 repainted train as transformation simply on the grounds that the trains, before GEJ's tenure, were not moving, but now they move. grin

The only reason GEJ's administration via Oduah is renovating airports is just so more cash can make it's way out.
for instance, project worth 250 Million naira, A company proposes say 500 million naira, Oduah ups it to about 1.5 Billion naira
GEJ approves 5Billion naira, each takes his/her share

This is why we will never move forward with the mindset our leaders are working with.

For the record
Johns Hopkins Hospital, one of world's top 5 best hospital costs US$52.6 million when converted to current value
reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johns_Hopkins_Hospital

$12 Billion is missing and mama ngozi is not even worried
$12 billion will build 228 units of Johns Hopkins Hospital when you do the maths

Shameless cretins travel abroad for checkups.
imagine Obama travelling to Nigeria for medical checkup

cc: PhockPhockMan, chronique, Justcash, BackDatAssUp, elohorayodele, cramjones

Wetin u de call me for?
Corruption won't let good tins work in Nigeria, even If angels renovate that airport wit heavenly currency and put it perfect shape, a year after it will stil rank as one of the worst if its managed my nigerians. Its a culture already. All Govt officials fly abroad, GEJ, Tinubu, etc.

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by hansad: 6:44pm On Nov 25, 2014
majekdom2:
old/ young man , the debate is not true federalism or the type of govt or not , the argument is where is the transformation in these airports , it is better the govt keeps mum on these project than to claim they have done something. The already destroyed image is being deterred more.the airports being compared are in Africa here . Argue like you comprehend English language. Are there no federal govt owned airports in America. The information on the thread is not what form of govt we should practice ,we seen and heard that couple of times .as long as it is this calibre of individuals that are in power , whatever form of govt being practiced will continue to fail.
THE unitary govt system in Nigeria furnishes us with the low calibre political office holders that give us substandard infrastructures, including the airports. But you ever dodge to talk about returning a suitable political system like true federalism/regional govt system whch shall spring up better leaders to give Nigeria the infrastrutures of international standards. You place all your hopes on Oyel money to build and maintan good "federal" infrastructures in a Nigeria where leaders are corrupted by the unitary system of govt. You must then continue to lament about Nigeria, its bad leadership and substandard infrastructures, till thy kingdom come, not withstanding who you place in Aso Rock by the time you succeed in brainwashing the uninformed majority to vote the existing govt out. The present govt, more than others before it, has even made better efforts on infrastructural develooment of Nigeria. But because your group wants Aso Rock hook or crook, you would not acknowledge that. You poeople are rather scheeming and brainwashing gullible Nigerians to vote your group into power, and if by any miracle you succeed, you must only return Nigeria to the dark ages soon after.
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by hansad: 6:44pm On Nov 25, 2014
majekdom2:
old/ young man , the debate is not true federalism or the type of govt or not , the argument is where is the transformation in these airports , it is better the govt keeps mum on these project than to claim they have done something. The already destroyed image is being deterred more.the airports being compared are in Africa here . Argue like you comprehend English language. Are there no federal govt owned airports in America. The information on the thread is not what form of govt we should practice ,we seen and heard that couple of times .as long as it is this calibre of individuals that are in power , whatever form of govt being practiced will continue to fail.
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Lumyboi(m): 6:47pm On Nov 25, 2014
denisfidha:



The cost of the whole terminal 1A is US$72.3 million (Kshs6.3 billion), that's might be quite a bit according to Kenyan standards since our GDP is only US$55 Billion and government expenditure is only US$20 Billion. By Nigerian starndards, with 72.3 million dollars, you wont even feel a pinch. in Addition, the cost of the furniture and interior design of the two lounges (Simba and Pride lounge) cost only about 2 million.

I tel u smtin man, that amount is not enough to build a governor's lodge in my country. Haha cheesy
Too bad

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by holatin(m): 6:50pm On Nov 25, 2014
fresh air. indeed

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by emmettyung: 6:53pm On Nov 25, 2014
no wonder tan shows us 3D Of our airport

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by kaboninc(m): 6:59pm On Nov 25, 2014
mrmetoo1:


Dude please educate me. Look the truth is I'm not impressed with our present government and I don't hide it. If I see what they've done, believe me I'll commend them. You say I'm saying what I think I know, look at my posts and you'll see I write from what I know.

December, I arrived to a hot airport and leaky roofs. Long lines with an express line for non-citizens (its the other way around in other countries but oh well). Bribe being asked from every corner you turn but that's ok. Getting out of the parking lot was a nightmare with potholes all around the PARKING LOT, as in parking lot, a PAID PARKING LOT. I went back to the airport to drop wifey in January still hot, went back in May to pick her up, still hot she had a worse experience this time around maybe because she was travelling alone with a baby but thats ok. 2 weeks ago my friend came in and still mentioned the leaky roofs at arrival. Couple of days after went to drop off wifey at the airport again, airport still hot. In December, I'm going go through this again this time it'll be me experiencing the departure and arrival myself, if anything has changed I'll update you.

If I haven't been objective enough please let me know

In situations like this you mention the airport and create the awareness. However, if there is an effort to fix the already bad situation, please also spread the news. That is how to be balanced.

Its not about finding fault, it is more about finding a solution.

That is my point.

Please mention the airport so that others can comment on it.
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by mrmetoo1: 8:17pm On Nov 25, 2014
kaboninc:


In situations like this you mention the airport and create the awareness. However, if there is an effort to fix the already bad situation, please also spread the news. That is how to be balanced.

Its not about finding fault, it is more about finding a solution.

That is my point.

Please mention the airport so that others can comment on it.

Ok the only one I know of and I've been talking about is MMIA.
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by ihesiuloa(m): 8:22pm On Nov 25, 2014
That spokes person for FAAN should have been quite without making any defence about the ratings! Its a perfect rating,I have been to dar es salam airport in Tanzania and I know there airport is poor you couldn't even find decent place to sleep while waiting for next flight, I was in Bole airport Adis Ababa Ethiopia there Airport is far far better than MMA you would almost feel you were in Europe! They've got fleet's of jet carriers almost all around the world Mhen! Does guys are serious minded! Jets every where! Same in Capetown south Africa! Its just a shame we are far backwards, do we even have a national carrier like Ethiopian airlines, south African airlines? What ever happened to Nigerian airways? Its just a real shame! I guess the answer is corruption.. Hmm..

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 10:15pm On Nov 25, 2014
Parolee:


You are going to derail the topic at hand with posts like this. Let your government bring your airports to international standards first......thereafter you can talk about township standard airports. How's that?
The government of Nigeria never listened to the citizens, that is one of the major problems in that country. The leaders are good in embezzling funds appropriated for standard projects and come up with poor plans. It is so annoying that I feel like crying sometimes, most especially, when I see poor infrastructure online. Jeez! Bleh!

But, you are not in the right position to tell us what to do. Not until you have fix your Township bucket poo system you're just an outside from the squalor of South Africa.
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by TundeCole(m): 10:49pm On Nov 25, 2014
PaulJohn1:
I thought that bulletproof car lover lady renovated our airports. undecided

I guess we've been scammed...
are u a learner?
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by 14(m): 11:42pm On Nov 25, 2014
all4naija:

The government of Nigeria never listened to the citizens, that is one of the major problems in that country. The leaders are good in embezzling funds appropriated for standard projects and come up with poor plans. It is so annoying that I feel like crying sometimes, most especially, when I see poor infrastructure online. Jeez! Bleh!

But, you are not in the right position to tell us what to do. Not until you have fix your Township bucket poo system you just an outside from the squalor of South Africa.

There is your Township Airport, Johannesburg O.R Tambo International

Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by 14(m): 11:56pm On Nov 25, 2014
There is your Township Airport, Cape town international

Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by 14(m): 12:18am On Nov 26, 2014
Durban King shaka International

Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 12:24am On Nov 26, 2014
14:


There is your Township Airport, Johannesburg O.R Tambo International
Bwahaha... Airport in Township! I think you are very funny! grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy.

I have had a good laugh for today! Hahaha....
Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by Nobody: 4:11am On Nov 26, 2014
swagwu:
OK...we must not be best in every thing!

Where human lives are involved?
Do you know nigeria has one of the highest rates of travellers going over seas on daily basis?
Do you know how much airlines pay to us to even operate?
My dear, we must be one of the best. We very well deserve to be.

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by LagosStinks2: 6:08am On Nov 26, 2014
This is no suprise,what kind of an airport where tou have to bribe to get your luggages back.Even a taxi rank in kenya is 100 percent better than nigerian airports its a total nightmare.The bathrooms are always dripping with sewage.Have the Nigerian airport authorities ever heard about airconditioners?

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Re: Nigerian Airports Rated Among The Worst In Africa by KLEINBASS: 6:45am On Nov 26, 2014
all4naija:

The government of Nigeria never listened to the citizens, that is one of the major problems in that country. The leaders are good in embezzling funds appropriated for standard projects and come up with poor plans. It is so annoying that I feel like crying sometimes, most especially, when I see poor infrastructure online. Jeez! Bleh!

But, you are not in the right position to tell us what to do. Not until you have fix your [b]Township bucket poo system [/b]you're just an outside from the squalor of South Africa.



119-million-nigerians-do-not-have toilets

http://www.nigerianeye.com/2014/11/119-million-nigerians-do-not-have.html

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