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Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by mesoade(m): 9:48am On Nov 30, 2014 |
As a christian i'd witnessed deliverances and miracles, even a miracle of a man medically declared lame, but after prayers began to walk. So it makes a lot of sense that there is someone supernatural behind it. So I want to know this, what do you think about miracles? |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by DesChyko: 9:59am On Nov 30, 2014 |
*clears throat*.. As a professional seasoned veteran atheist, I must say when I see posts like this, I laugh hard till tears fall off my eyes. I laugh at you for posting this, and expecting an answer from me. I laugh so so hard. I laugh because I have no idea how to answer this question. I mean, I may talk about 'luck' and 'timing' and 'science' but you already know those are excuses, so I just laugh to cover up my confusion, and hopefully, make you give up without getting an answer. Well I'm no atheist. And I have no damn idea what goes on in that skull of theirs..if they exist 1 Like |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by johnydon22(m): 10:34am On Nov 30, 2014 |
just tell me an amputed limb grew back. . . . why is it that although their is nothing impossible for god as they say ; i have never heard or seen an amupted limb grow back when prayed for... i was talking with a few christians the other day and they were like telling me that nothing is impossible for god and all that... i asked them why he hasnt healed an amputed limb before. and one of them shouted "But thats impossible!!!" i nearly laf crash land my bones.. 5 Likes |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by mesoade(m): 1:16pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
johnydon22:why amputate your limbs in the first place,when you can easily pray about it to get healed. . . There's nothing impossible for God but the situation you cited above is outrageous . . It's just like a son praying to be older than his father . . Is that possible? |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by johnydon22(m): 1:33pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
mesoade: lmao...so Pastors praying for an amputee is like a son praying to be older Than the father ..... hahahaha why dont u just tell us plainly that it is impossible for God to heal an amputee!!! lmao so much for an all powerful being. . ]quote] Their is Nothing IMPOSSIBLE for God BUT the situation you cited above is OUTRAGEOUS[/quote]… chai ooo chisoos am laffin my butt out... 1 Like |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by thehomer: 1:37pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
mesoade: Parlor tricks. Why don't you ask those pastors to go and treat patients with confirmed ebola? How about asking them to empty out the homes for disabled children with their miracles? Ask them to cure those deaf children. Ask them to heal amputees. Then we'll talk. 4 Likes |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by mesoade(m): 2:02pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
thehomer: johnydon22: thehomer:so basically miracle is tricks? |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by dalaman: 2:13pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
mesoade: The ones we see performed by pastors in churches and on TV are tricks. So many of them have been exposed but people still keep believing in them. Here is a little clip of how one of the greatest pastors and healers in the USA was exposed as a fraud by James Randi back then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y All pastors that perform miracles operate this way. people just believing without knowing that they are deceived and duped. It's all magic and acting. 1 Like |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by Frankenstein: 2:27pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
johnydon22:Please don't derail the thread. The question still remains Your View on Miracles ; possible or not. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by Frankenstein: 2:29pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
thehomer:Do you believe voodoo and black magic are real? Please try not to deviate from the question. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by johnydon22(m): 2:31pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Frankenstein: if they are possible why do we still have disabled people mainly in the church to start with, why do we still have ebola patients, why do we still have little children dying of starvation and cancer, why do we still have sick fellows everywhere and why havent one amputee being gotten healed before y'all should just wake up from ur dreams and miracle mongering and face reality... 1 Like |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by johnydon22(m): 2:33pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Frankenstein: still same parlor tricks... it is still you religious folks that believe in voodoo and magic. . . still from hearsay none of u have actually seen voodoo or magic work before but no you will believe em. . . smh. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by Frankenstein: 2:36pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
johnydon22:I asked you a simple question. Stop whining and give me an answer. Then I'll answer your question on why everybody doesn't get healed. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by Frankenstein: 2:37pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
johnydon22:I've seen someone get shot with live bullets and the person didn't feel it and I've watched a pagan fill a basket with water. My cousin once plucked an orange from a farm decorated with heathen ornaments. He got pox all over his body the next day. After his mom went to plead with the old woman that owned the farm, the pox disappeared. No medication was used. You consider these parlour tricks? There are several verified accounts of spells online. How do you explain the bird that fell from a power line and transformed into a woman in Lagos.. lemme guess, parlour trick. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by johnydon22(m): 2:42pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Frankenstein: and i bet u didnt know about what we call water bullets... lmao. get me the person and i will get my own gun and bullet, it will only take one bullet and we will be on our way to the cemetry... 1 Like |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by Frankenstein: 2:48pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
johnydon22:How do you explain the bird that fell from a power line and transformed into a woman in Lagos?.. lemme guess, parlour trick. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by dalaman: 2:52pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Frankenstein: It is a lie, it never happened. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by johnydon22(m): 2:54pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Frankenstein: and i know u were actually there looking at the bird transform into a woman... wah dah heck is wrong wif y'all.. lynching a poor helpless old woman accusing her of being a bird that fell from a power line... WTF who exactly are the evil ones in this world!! no i get it ur bible actually told u "suffer not a witch to live" smh... 1 Like |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by johnydon22(m): 2:57pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
dalaman: dont mind him... trying to prove his God performs miracle using voodoo and magic... why dont he just believe in voodoo and magic instead since they clearly manifest better than his god... lmao 1 Like |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by sinequanon: 2:59pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
dalaman: James Randi also trained his homosexual lover to whom he is now married, "José Alvarez" who was from Venezuela and labouring under an assumed name, to be a TV psychic in Australia. After they were caught, he claimed that it was all a demonstration to see how gullible the public are.. LOL LOL LOL. The guy is naive. He thought he had sunk Peter Poppoff He had no idea what he was dealing with. Poppoff is back a multi-millionaire, selling "miracle" bread and "holy" water, and running his "ministry". |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by dalaman: 3:07pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
sinequanon: And this ridiculous post of yours proves that miracles are real? How? |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by mesoade(m): 3:09pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
dalaman:so all pastors perform tricks? . . Out of all the points behind atheism,this is the most stupid |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by mesoade(m): 3:10pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Seun . . FP pls |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by dalaman: 3:16pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
mesoade: The day you show me a pastor that can perform clear cut miracles like healing a person with amputated limbs and restoring the person's limbs back of healing babies with down syndrome then I'll believe you. Until then all pastors that perform miracles are fake. Non of their miracle healing are real. We all saw what happened to TB Joshua one of the most prolific miracle churning pastors in Nigeria. When the church building collapsed, ambulances came and rushed many of the victims to the hospital because they had real injuries that weren't fake, normally people come to him for healing and we are made to believe that he heals them. In reality most of the people that come to him play out a script, when reality struck his powers failed him, he could not lay his hands and try to heal many of the people that got injured and died under the rubble. he was helpless and all he could do was claim that it was MEND that attacked him. Clear cut miracles never happen only fake and scripted ones. I will say that anywhere and anytime. 2 Likes |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by Zeus777: 3:17pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
johnydon22:....will u just stop making me spill my wine on my shirt ? |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by sinequanon: 3:20pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
dalaman: You need one, but I can't help you. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by dalaman: 3:25pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
sinequanon: Can you even help your self with any? |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by johnydon22(m): 3:45pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Zeus777: lolzzz |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by Zeus777: 4:01pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
mesoade:look mesoade or what do u call urself. Maybe u should just visit the link below it just might answer ur question. https://www.nairaland.com/1995144/breaking-news-joagbajes-miracle-hiv |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by thehomer: 4:09pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
mesoade: What you're calling miracles are mere parlor tricks. Again, get your favourite pastors to cure ebola or restore an amputee's lim. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by thehomer: 4:10pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Frankenstein: They're as real as vampires, zombies and faeries. |
Re: Atheists: What Are Your Views On Miracles? by onetrack(m): 4:21pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Think about how many 'miracles' were actually explained later by scientific explanations. Now think about how many scientific principles turned out later to have a miraculous, non-scientific explanation. Compare the number. That should answer your question. |
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