ooman:


because they were dumb, hungry and poor...

dont mean it as it sounds....

Are the dumb because they like charity or they like charity because they are dumb?

Reyginus:
Are the dumb because they like charity or they like charity because they are dumb?

No, they liked charity because they were poor. They were dumb to drop their own way of life for charity.

macof:


Hitler never attacked religions, his killing of priest were politically based, at that time the catholic church was being too involved in government and politics and filled with corrupt priest, jst as Luther had professed, Hitler silenced his oppositions and believed he was cleansing Germany of corruption both in the church and else where. he still professed catholism to his suicide.

Read well on the life of Hitler, he was No atheist but a lover of Jesus

I have given you a link to read how Hitler persecuted the Church. Have you read it...or have you sworn to die in ignorance?

macof:
Lmao christianity invent science?
The world knows Paganism invented science and spirituality and is bedrock of every human achievement, from alphabets to mathematics, archaeology to mechanism
I don't even need to argue this with u, it's left for u to be honest enough to face and accept the truth which u know pretty well

I have given you a link that shows how Catholicism invented Science. Have you read it, or have you sworn to die in ignorance?

macof:
Not forgetting the large number of scientific discoveries attacked by the catholic church in it's glory days and imperialism...scientific discoveries the church has shamefully accepted today, after being left with no choice

As usual, no proof of anything. You just open your mouth and talk like a drunk.

macof:
The Roman alphabet you using today has it's origins from Phoenician pagan priests

Preserved by Catholic monks from Barbarian destruction.

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who
are near to you, and let them find harshness in you,
and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty"
Qur'an, Sura 9:123

ooman:


No, they liked charity because they were poor. They were dumb to drop their own way of life for charity.

Is it a good thing to reject or accept charity because you are poor?

Reyginus:
Is it a good thing to reject or accept charity because you are poor?

You may want to retain your dignity, which they failed to do.

Ifeann:


You are quite stubborn. lol . Look its okay to be wrong. We learn everyday and our opinions evolve as more facts become apparent. Your support for atheism is WRONG and its time you accept it.
Apparently you can NOT find reasonable evidence to defend hitler as your ideals about him crumbles under the weight of my superior argument. Now you want me to educate you on Mao Zedong. Look if you want an ideology to fight, fight Islam because in an Islamic state under sharia law atheists such as yourself will be forced to say the shahadda and convert to Islam or be executed. As it was the case with the ottoman empire. Islam is growing in the UK, France, Germany and many other multicultural western European countries largely due to immigration and exponential births.

Just a point to remember about Mao Zedong, his rule caused the death of an estimated 40–70 million people through starvation, forced labour and executions, ranking his tenure as the TOP (Number 1) incidence of democide in human history. But I know you would like to focus on the beautiful, polluted and corrupt modern china he helped create. Just as pagan/ atheists Nazi Germany became the economic hub of Europe after Nazism eliminated 7million Jews and countless others.
Do you see a pattern here with atheism. Or do you just chose to be blind to facts.

Pls address this.
Mao remains the most celebrated man of modern history in all of east Asia due to his socialist policies...we can't of course leave out the horror of the millions lost but this same acts have made China what it is today
But how was this driven by atheism?
I want to know

Back to Hitler, pls I don't want to have to waste my data looking for links...jst spend a few hours reading about Hitler...he was a catholic till death

italo:

I have given you a link to read how Hitler persecuted the Church. Have you read it...or have you sworn to die in ignorance?

I have given you a link that shows how Catholicism invented Science. Have you read it, or have you sworn to die in ignorance?

As usual, no proof of anything. You just open your mouth and talk like a drunk.


Preserved by Catholic monks from Barbarian destruction.

Oh! I knew u would deny it..but then such is expected from a dogmatic Christian

bolaino:
Hitler was a christian, Osama bin laden was a muslim, one killed for Jesus The other killed for Muhammad, but they had one thing in common, They were both psychotic killers. They believed in ethnic/religious extermination, if you look at the history of modern humanity, you'll see the Evils these Religions have caused us all, did the catholics not kill millions of people in the name of Jesus, is boko haram not killing people today because of Muhammad. These two Abrahamic religions are the major causes of war and destruction in this world, If people are not stealing, raping and causing disaffection in the name of Jesus, They would be beheading and Killing innocent people in the name of Muhammad, I wish I could be alive to watch these two Religions go extinct, the truth is You have every tendency of being dangerous as long as you're a christian or muslim. Bigots.

@op, you better stop living in the past. Christianity is a blessing to mankind. Its a religion that does not require followers to kill for God or hate one's enemies. Christians hate sin but not the sinner.

modified;
BTW, hitler never killed for Christ Jesus. His victims were mainly christians & jews. And his motive for killing wasnt to please Jesus christ, but to control the world i.e for purely selfish reasons.

macof:


Pls address this.
Mao remains the most celebrated man of modern history in all of east Asia due to his socialist policies...we can't of course leave out the horror of the millions lost but this same acts have made China what it is today
But how was this driven by atheism?
I want to know

Back to Hitler, pls I don't want to have to waste my data looking for links...jst spend a few hours reading about Hitler...he was a catholic till death

You have said 2 things that show me that you are either ignorant of the facts or you are being intentional dishonest.

You say Mao is the most celebrated man in the Asia where is your data to support this. I deal in facts and figures not personal opinions. He caused 70million deaths but to you it means nothing.

You say hitler was catholic till death but you won't provide credible references on this while myself on the other hand have provided validated quotes and books showing he was an idealistic atheist who hated Christianity.
Would a catholic kill people for no reason. NO, Its against their doctrine
Would a catholic promote Germanic pagan worship. NO, Its against their doctrine
Would a catholic commit inc.est. NO, Its against their doctrine
Would a catholic promote hate. NO, Its against their doctrine
Would a catholic commit suicide. NO, Its against their doctrine
But hitler did all these things and more.
You obviously want to deliberately remain blind to the truth.
Stay in your folly if you wish.

Ifeann:


You have said 2 things that show me that you are either ignorant of the facts or you are being intentional dishonest.

You say Mao is the most celebrated man in the Asia where is your data to support this. I deal in facts and figures not personal opinions. He caused 70million deaths but to you it means nothing.

I said he is the most celebrated man in modern history. this isn't my opinion, I couldn't care less about him...but for the Chinese, he remains an immortalised political and military idol
www.beckyances.net/2012/09/top-10-most-influential-people-in-china-times-2/
www.themost10.com/important-leaders-in-20th-century/
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10537651/In-China-Chairman-Mao-still-bigger-than-Jesus.html

Most of the hatred against him, has been propagated from the jealous West.

Again I ask how did atheism cause this?

You say hitler was catholic till death but you won't provide credible references on this while myself on the other hand have provided validated quotes and books showing he was an idealistic atheist who hated Christianity.

ur quotes have no validation. I have German friends who have discussed this with me. He was a damed catholic...no valid book would say Hitler was Atheist or non-catholic
Ur quotes are false

Would a catholic kill people for no reason. NO, Its against their doctrine
Would a catholic promote Germanic pagan worship. NO, Its against their doctrine
Would a catholic commit inc.est. NO, Its against their doctrine
Would a catholic promote hate. NO, Its against their doctrine
Would a catholic commit suicide. NO, Its against their doctrine
But hitler did all these things and more.
You obviously want to deliberately remain blind to the truth.
Stay in your folly if you wish.

Yes, a catholic would do that, Hitler was one of such catholics, many priests also...I don't know wat they teach in catholic churches but by history we know the catholic church is the most evil and corrupt organization...why do u think it's imperial period is called the DARK AGES?

www.reformedapologeticsministries.com/2014/03/some-of-roman-catholicisms-worst.html?m=1
www.listverse.com/2011/06/08/top-10-shameful-moments-in-catholic-history/

Read the links and know just how disgusting the history of the catholic church is.
corruption of the worst, which Hitler helped set straight today...at least to a considerable degree
The catholic church needed cleansing, this Hitler did

macof:

I said he is the most celebrated man in modern history. this isn't my opinion, I couldn't care less about him...but for the Chinese, he remains an immortalised political and military idol
www.beckyances.net/2012/09/top-10-most-influential-people-in-china-times-2/
www.themost10.com/important-leaders-in-20th-century/
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10537651/In-China-Chairman-Mao-still-bigger-than-Jesus.html

Most of the hatred against him, has been propagated from the jealous West.

Again I ask how did atheism cause this?



ur quotes have no validation. I have German friends who have discussed this with me. He was a damed catholic...no valid book would say Hitler was Atheist or non-catholic
Ur quotes are false



Yes, a catholic would do that, Hitler was one of such catholics, many priests also...I don't know wat they teach in catholic churches but by history we know the catholic church is the most evil and corrupt organization...why do u think it's imperial period is called the DARK AGES?

www.reformedapologeticsministries.com/2014/03/some-of-roman-catholicisms-worst.html?m=1
www.listverse.com/2011/06/08/top-10-shameful-moments-in-catholic-history/

Read the links and know just how disgusting the history of the catholic church is.
corruption of the worst, which Hitler helped set straight today...at least to a considerable degree
The catholic church needed cleansing, this Hitler did

Wow, u just want to stay ignorant. I provide you with book reference on hitler you provide me with some silly weblinks listing information based on peoples opinions. nonsense. Any child can get information of the web. There are websites claiming Santa clause is real, but is he. Maybe you believe that too conspiracy theorist.

You say you have Germany friends that have told you this and that, are u serious? Dude I schooled abroad I have tonnes of British friends, I can say the same nonsense you said but I won't. Anything they say its opinion until proven as fact.

I won't address other points you raised because I am tried of correcting you.

However, I will agree that the catholic church hasn't perfectly lived up to expectations in the past. I have always known this. Have you always lived up to high moral standards yourself. We are human and will always err. But I thank God he put the church back on the right path. let me quote what one of the sites said about the church before criticizing its past and I quote," This list is not a denunciation of Roman Catholicism, which dates back to Christ Himself. The Church today is a VERY HONORABLE institution. But there are a FEW moments in its history when it did not live up to its OWN HIGH MORAL STANDARDS. This list constitutes an honest, unflinching look at some black moments in Roman Catholic history.

With this friend, I rest my case.

limamintruth:



@op, you better stop living in the past. Christianity is a blessing to mankind. Its a religion that does not require followers to kill for God or hate one's enemies. Christians hate sin but not the sinner.

modified;
BTW, hitler never killed for Christ Jesus. His victims were mainly christians & jews. And his motive for killing wasnt to please Jesus christ, but to control the world i.e for purely selfish reasons.

do you Know anything about Gnostic Christianity?

bolaino:
do you Know anything about Gnostic Christianity?

In theory, yes. But in practise, no.
Why do you ask BTW?

ooman:


You may want to retain your dignity, which they failed to do.

In essence, it is better. What do you think?

Reyginus:
In essence, it is better. What do you think?

To retain your dignity, yes.

ooman:

To retain your dignity, yes.

An our forefathers dignity too. Do you agree?

Reyginus:
An our forefathers dignity too. Do you agree?

yes

ooman:


yes

Then why are you arguing against it?

Ifeann:


Wow, u just want to stay ignorant. I provide you with book reference on hitler you provide me with some silly weblinks listing information based on peoples opinions. nonsense. Any child can get information of the web. There are websites claiming Santa clause is real, but is he. Maybe you believe that too conspiracy theorist.

You say you have Germany friends that have told you this and that, are u serious? Dude I schooled abroad I have tonnes of British friends, I can say the same nonsense you said but I won't. Anything they say its opinion until proven as fact.

I won't address other points you raised because I am tried of correcting you.

However, I will agree that the catholic church hasn't perfectly lived up to expectations in the past. I have always known this. Have you always lived up to high moral standards yourself. We are human and will always err. But I thank God he put the church back on the right path. let me quote what one of the sites said about the church before criticizing its past and I quote," This list is not a denunciation of Roman Catholicism, which dates back to Christ Himself. The Church today is a VERY HONORABLE institution. But there are a FEW moments in its history when it did not live up to its OWN HIGH MORAL STANDARDS. This list constitutes an honest, unflinching look at some black moments in Roman Catholic history.

With this friend, I rest my case.

Again the dishonesty and why are u running away from my questions?

Your quotes are false, there's no single validation to it.

My links are backed up by every non-western sourced article u can find about Chairman Mao.

It's left for u to accept truth or lie to the shame of christianity.

At least u admit the catholic church has an evil history, one that needed cleansing made men like Hitler.

teemanbastos:
ABRAHAM GAVE BIRTH TO THEM.. Isaac(christians) Ishmael(muslims).
Isaac was a child of promise.
Ishmael was injurious and brutal.
God said dat both would produce mighty nations as we have tdae. Nd would WAR continually against dmselves.
Naw we gentiles(Any1 nt 4rm Israel i.e jews).. Were made children of promise thru Jesus christ.

''ABRAHAM'' gave birth to your forefathers? OLODO RABATA.

macof:


Again the dishonesty and why are u running away from my questions?

Your quotes are false, there's no single validation to it.

My links are backed up by every non-western sourced article u can find about Chairman Mao.

It's left for u to accept truth or lie to the shame of christianity.

At least u admit the catholic church has an evil history, one that needed cleansing made men like Hitler.

You say. "Your quotes are false, there's no single validation to it."

Prove it, prove I made up those references.

You say "My links are backed up by every non-western sourced article u can find about Chairman Mao."

That's my point. U back up your silly opinions with silly website articles. Ï have written an academic dissertation and if you were to write one and back it up with website articles, you will fail. Go to google books, or any .edu site and provide credible references.

You said, "At least u admit the catholic church has an evil history, one that needed cleansing made men like Hitler."
NO, I don't agree. I said its has not lived up to expectations. Even the catholic church knows this. Evil history as u put it is a grave exaggeration.

Finally, you agree hitler "cleansed the church" an euphemism for killing clergy. Congrats to you, u once again defeat your arguments.
You have no points my friend.

plaetton:


And Where were your black skinned ancestors when Abraham was banging Sarah and her maid to give births to Isaac and Ishmael?

I guess your ancestors had not yet been created. Is that it?
Zombie Africans.

Honestly... I can't believe he said his ancestors came from Abraham! Kai! These oyibo people have finished us!!

Horus:
Accepting an imported alien religion has killed our peoples minds!. Africans dont know the consequences of accepting an alien religion. If an African accepts Judaism and Christianity as his religion, he has accepted the Caucasian as his visible God. The same with Islam, if an African person accepts Al Islam and its many branches as his religion, then it accepts the Desert Arab as his God. That person cannot have power over, or be equal to the Caucasian, or Arab because here, the Caucasian and the Arab has been accepted as the superior power, and this is why trying to obtain liberty and equality in Caucasian or Arab religion or any alien religion is a CRUEL HOAX! If you look at all of the so called Holy Books that our people are into, they all portray the image of someone other than self. There is not a face of Black/African people of any of these imported religions. To divide Africans they have manipulated religion to an extent that it trains Africans to become mental slaves to Caucasians through Christianity and Arabs through Islam. Remember, you are the original people of the planet earth yet you are following another races view as to who or what god is according to them. That’s why Caucasians will make bible prophets white looking and Arabs will make their prophets look like their race.

You get time o

limamintruth:


In theory, yes. But in practise, no.
Why do you ask BTW?

I have experimented with Gnosticism and all it stands for, and I have come to my personal opinion on the true nature of Jesus The Christ, If trully he was Man or Myth.

bolaino:
I have experimented with Gnosticism and all it stands for, and I have come to my personal opinion on the true nature of Jesus The Christ, If trully he was Man or Myth.

Ok.
What did you then discover about Jesus the Christ?

limamintruth:



Ok.
What did you then discover about Jesus the Christ?

White Jesus is the Biggest Mythical Figure In History. Jesus and Santa claus fall in the same category.

bolaino:
White Jesus is the Biggest Mythical Figure In History. Jesus and Santa claus fall in the same category.

Why then does other world religions (excluding christianity) also corroborate his true existence

And dont tell me your witchy-witchy gnostic universe taught you so pls.

bolaino:
Hitler was a christian, Osama bin laden was a muslim, one killed for Jesus The other killed for Muhammad, but they had one thing in common, They were both psychotic killers. They believed in ethnic/religious extermination, if you look at the history of modern humanity, you'll see the Evils these Religions have caused us all, did the catholics not kill millions of people in the name of Jesus, is boko haram not killing people today because of Muhammad. These two Abrahamic religions are the major causes of war and destruction in this world, If people are not stealing, raping and causing disaffection in the name of Jesus, They would be beheading and Killing innocent people in the name of Muhammad, I wish I could be alive to watch these two Religions go extinct, the truth is You have every tendency of being dangerous as long as you're a christian or muslim. Bigots.

Pure Error.....

Christainity means Follower of Christ--- 1 Pet 2:21-23 " He committed no sin, nor was deception found in his mouth, when he was insulted he did not insult in return, when he was suffering he did not threathen but he entrusted himself to the one who judges righteously"

So Hitler is not a christian, he was a church-goer.

Not all who claim to be christians are christians just as not all who claim to be rich are--- if you have/bear the fruits it shows.

Christianity is not a religion of violence, only people who claim they are fall short of what is required of them.

Ifeann:


You say. "Your quotes are false, there's no single validation to it."

Prove it, prove I made up those references.

You say "My links are backed up by every non-western sourced article u can find about Chairman Mao."

That's my point. U back up your silly opinions with silly website articles. Ï have written an academic dissertation and if you were to write one and back it up with website articles, you will fail. Go to google books, or any .edu site and provide credible references.

You said, "At least u admit the catholic church has an evil history, one that needed cleansing made men like Hitler."
NO, I don't agree. I said its has not lived up to expectations. Even the catholic church knows this. Evil history as u put it is a grave exaggeration.

Finally, you agree hitler "cleansed the church" an euphemism for killing clergy. Congrats to you, u once again defeat your arguments.
You have no points my friend.

Oh! I have made all the points in relations to this topic but blind religionists like urself find it hard to accept truth in the shame of ur religion.
I understand the state of mind u are of right now...I was once there, but truth is stronger than dogmatism. Eventually if you don't accept the truth your kids will

macof:


Oh! I have made all the points in relations to this topic but blind religionists like urself find it hard to accept truth in the shame of ur religion.
I understand the state of mind u are of right now...I was once there, but truth is stronger than dogmatism. Eventually if you don't accept the truth your kids will

Your points are weak and poorly researched. As a skeptic, you do a bad job of convincing anyone with any modicum of intellect and willing to investigate.

I am well aware of the truth,my grand parents were, my parents are and believe me, my kids will.

Cheers buddy.

RikoduoSennin:



Pure Error.....

Christainity means Follower of Christ--- 1 Pet 2:21-23 " He committed no sin, nor was deception found in his mouth, when he was insulted he did not insult in return, when he was suffering he did not threathen but he entrusted himself to the one who judges righteously"

So Hitler is not a christian, he was a church-goer.

Not all who claim to be christians are christians just as not all who claim to be rich are--- if you have/bear the fruits it shows.

Christianity is not a religion of violence, only people who claim they are fall short of what is required of them.

Hey buddy,
A little correction,
Hitler was born as a christain (from my research) but had a difficult life. So apparently he lost his faith.
Most historians will classify him as atheist or pagan because of his obsession with the occult and his hatred for Jews Christians and even Muslims.