all4naija:

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Those your overly painting of a good picture for those two Asian countries is preposterous to say the least. No intelligent person is going to buy into it.[/i]

chulla12:
As true as this post may be, there are several things that China and India have (despite widespread poverty) that Nigeria and most Sub-Saharan countries don't:

1. A trillion dollar economy, BRIC membership, image of big economies on a global scale.
2. Cultures and norms that have greatly influenced the modern world. Think of maths, spirituality, gun-powder, paper, etc. (And please don't even mention Egypt. An Egyptian family would not be portrayed in a degrading manner anyway and most people associate Egypt with the middle-east and not Black Africa...whether you think this is right or wrong is another matter).
3. Antiquated societies with substantial physical and written evidences to show for it (see my comment above regarding Egypt).
4. Migratory cultures that seem to produce the image of model minorities everywhere Indians and Chinese are (dominating local markets, over-representation in STEM programs or science and technology, generally avoiding petty crimes such as being drug mules). This is unlike Africans who seem to not hold an upstanding reputation in most countries they migrate to except maybe the US or Canada.
5. More of a threat to the domination of Europe than Sub-Saharan African countries.

chulla12:


But Black men can continue plunging into assorted Caucasian "baby cats" despite having higher numbers of interracial relationships abi?

kmariko:

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Actually your assertion is not backed by facts.
1. South Africa is one of the BRICS.
2.sub- Saharan (if I may use the term) economy is 2.2 trillion.
3. Contribution to civilization from Africa, please read your history.
4. Who are the largest importers of heroin if I may ask.

Horus:


You should know that a Black man cannot become pregnant. The female has the Mitochondrial DNA which is passed from mother to daughter only. Men cannot pass it on, only women.

chulla12:


Biracial children from Black men and Caucasian mothers are less likely to be Black compared to those from Black women.

chulla12:


1. BRICS membership is just one piece of the economic puzzle (South Africa was recently added anyway and is one of a few anomalies in SSA. I think most people know why).
2. Okay..I was talking about individual sub-saharan countries compared to China and India. There is no individual Sub-Saharan African country with a trillion dollar economy. Maybe Nigeria will get there soon but it's shady reputation and Boko Haram antics ruins the super power wannabe image.
3. Ok, please list the contributions to global civilization from countries in Africa (outside Egypt) and compare with China and India.
4. I was talking about petty crime and not organized drug empires that you see in Mexico, Colombia, etc. Which immigrants are you likely to see in corners of shady neighborhoods in Asia or Europe hawking or retailing drugs to downtrodden junkies?

chulla12:


Doesn't that argue against Black men mating with other races as opposed to Black women? Biracial children from Black men and Caucasian mothers are less likely to be Black compared to those from Black women.

Anyways, keep banging Caucasian "Baby cats," while telling Black women to put up or shut up.

Horus:


Only a black woman can pass the Mitochondrial DNA of the black race from mother to daughter, not a caucasian female

BackDatAssUp:


Lie.

Men carry both the X and Y chromosome. Women only have the X chromosome. Going by this a white man having a biracial son with a black woman passes his male genes to him. The case is the same with black men and white women.

A biracial male from a white male and black female couple is more white gene wise than the reverse.

Skin tone has nothing to do with it as some biracial people may appear more Caucasian irrespective of the race of the mother either black or white.

kmariko:


So organised crime is much more noble than petty crime . perception is not reality but a comfort zone. If you are looking for a Nigerian drug peddler you will find one even when a Chinese peddler is standing by.

Once again read your history we can debate that on another thread. There are even you tube videos that makes it easier to understand.

The thread is not about individual countries in Africa but the continent. If want to then choose countries with comparable size..not apples to oranges

chulla12:
Ok...I was playing around with your friend's argument so take that up with him.

Even considering your points and his together this just means that Black men and Black women, at worst are at equal genetic disadvantage when dating out.

Which brings us full circle - why are Black women still held to different dating standards than men? I don't actually care for White men anyway but don't be hypocrites!

chulla12:


Ok so that means that biracial children (particularly daughters) from Black women are more genetically advantaged than those from Black men, right?

So why do Black men, the so called leaders of the Black race, date out? Imagine the non-black kids inheriting the wealth of rich Black fathers in interracial marriages.

onoja12:
my brother wake up, they just hate you, they know you are rich naturally so they have to brain wash you into thinking you are poor so they can keep stealing from you, wake up

BackDatAssUp:


And who controls most of the UN agencies?

My point being that you can not refute western perceptions based on their own data.

That is like cherry picking and taking the values that suit you.

What Africa desperately needs is to fix her problems by themselves with their own home grown solutions.

Every time there is a conflict some where in Africa, the UN and red cross get there before any regional or continental response.

The world is tired of fixing Africa.

PapaBrowne:
Just sad the powerful effect this kind of propaganda reflects.

I was in Italy recently(Florence & Bologna) specifically and I kept wondering to myself why on planet earth we are made to believe these folks are better than us. My life(economically) is better in Nigeria than probably 80% of Italians. Yes they have better infrastructure, security and access to public icicles amenities, but on a person one on one level in my house I live better than a large chunk of Europeans and I can bet 20% of Nigerians can proudly attest to that.

Yes there are poor Nigerianss and very plenty but surely not as many as they want it to look.

LogicPower:


The part in bold is the grim reality that you would be faced with whenever you attempt to compare life in Nigeria and in those poor European countries and, to a large extent, some Asian countries like China, India, Malaysia and Thailand, and African countries.

As you rightly observe, many Nigerians like yourself might be considered, on one on basis, as living a far better life than over 20% of people in those EU countries and over 50% of people in Asian countries. Yet those same people have far greater and freer ACCESS to modern public infrastructure and basic amenities such as good roads, hospitals, uninterrupted electricity, clean portable water and security than most Nigerians.

I think even an average city dweller in an African country like S.Africa, Egypt, Cabon, Morocco, Tunisia, and others, enjoys far greater and better ACCESS to these public infrastructure and social amenities than an average middle class Nigerian.

I have not been to any of these African cities but I do not think power generators, for instance, are as part of their daily life as they have become part of the daily life of an average city dweller in Nigeria, including an apparently well-to-do people like you.

Ilekokonit:


Nigeria (i.e Nigerian leaders lootocrats) past and present have let down the black race. If not, Nigeria ought to have become a Mecca of sorts for all black people on the planet.

Fela Kuti must be shaking his head at the international joke Nigeria has now become.

Iroh88:
Bone that thing. I don't need their love, and honestly, I really don't care about them either. Their love or hate doesn't really stop us from becoming what we desire to become as a nation, all it take for us to rise is just to have the right thinking and selfless leaders.

It doesn't take someone's love or hatred for you to know if you are rich or poor materially. The greatest economies we have today never depended on "western love" to rise from the dust. Take WWII Germany for instance, the WORLD hated them with passion because the role they played in the war and given that the whole thing started with their country's president. That country was literally turned into a pile of rubble and dust at the end of the war, and all manner of sanctions were slapped on them!! They didn't wait for the US and co to start "loving" them before they started the process of rebuilding their country. Today, it is the most industrialised country in the world and the power house of Europe!!

When our leaders and indeed their followers start doing the right things, all the propaganda wouldn't matter anymore. Self pity and acting victimised has never solved anyone's problem in history, let alone a country's.

igbo2011:
European ideology is very anti-African in philosophy so it only shows the bad in the media. Also inn school it teaches you that Africa has no history and culture. Africa is just wars, famine, starving children, etc. That is the way the white supremacists made it.

This is why black people are treated badly in the west due to this ideology. They don't want Africa to rise because if Africa rises then the west will fall. That is how slavery in America started with Africans being at the bottom

Ilekokonit:


Nigeria (i.e Nigerian leaders lootocrats) past and present have let down the black race. If not, Nigeria ought to have become a Mecca of sorts for all black people on the planet.

Fela Kuti must be shaking his head at the international joke Nigeria has now become.

ROSSIKE:
'More poor' in India than Africa - BBC

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10609407

chulla12:
Ok - I was talking in context of this thread and the pictures Rossike presented. An Egyptian family having dinner would be shown in a more dignifying manner than the Chadians.

Even with all the grimy pictures you show - None of these countries are ever shown in the degrading manner that Black African countries are presented. Deny it all you want.

I'm sure there are equally scandalous pictures from the US but does that take away it's dominant power in the world? No:






Why don't my other points make sense to you?

all4naija:
Please, stop using rural people living in the poor home and swamp in USA to define this argument. The fact that you posted abandoned buildings, possibly in Michigan, where drug-using twerps do their criminal activities in the hood doesn't make sense. Those are abandoned homes where illegal and homeless people choose to hide. Even at that it provide roofs over their head but that is not the case with those country because of endemic poverty. You comparison is very skewed.

chulla12:


Ok....my points have obviously flown over your head. If you knew that I even agree with your quoted post and that it makes my points even all the more valid then this pointless discussion won't even take place.

I'm done here!

Wallie:
Those with power decide what kinds of story we see, hear, or read about. They tell the narration that conforms to their bias and/or believe.

You want to tell a different story, the real story? Attain power. Nobody will listen to you if you're powerless; you'll just die of frustration.