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The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by chiedu7: 10:04am On Dec 11, 2014
The jews would be surprised to find out that they actually worshiped Jesus in the Old Testament.
But when Jesus manifest in a humble way many rejected Him.

So if anybody tells You Jesus is not God the person is deceiving you

This pic proves the Jews worshiped Jesus.

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Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by mperoakeem(m): 10:15am On Dec 11, 2014
r u telling me nw dat jesus is God?

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Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by chiedu7: 10:46am On Dec 11, 2014
mperoakeem:
r u telling me nw dat jesus is God?
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Yes 100% God.
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Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by mperoakeem(m): 11:01am On Dec 11, 2014
chiedu7:

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Yes 100% God.
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r u jst bored or wot?.where in d bible jesus said he's God.
When jesus died 4 3 days(as u claimed), wu was in control of d earth, d world in total?
My guy, wise up and stop taking dose tin, u're not a rastaman

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Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by chiedu7: 11:12am On Dec 11, 2014
mperoakeem:
r u jst bored or wot?.where in d bible jesus said he's God.
When jesus died 4 3 days(as u claimed), wu was in control of d earth, d world in total?
My guy, wise up and stop taking dose tin, u're not a rastaman

Is the grammar too much for you?

Jesus said He is the Lord of the Sabbath, that means that the Sabbath He is worshiped by the Jews.

Jesus also said He is the Son of God, making Him equal to God.

John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath,
but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.


God coming to earth was foretold in the Torah


Isaiah 9:6 (KJV)
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God,
The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.



mperoakeem:

When jesus died 4 3 days(as u claimed), wu was in control of d earth, d world in total?
My guy, wise up and stop taking dose tin, u're not a rastaman

When Jesus died There is still God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.


John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath,
but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.



1 John 5:7 (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Maamin(m): 11:31am On Dec 11, 2014
trinity co-equality is an error that must be rejected coz it is not in the bible..there is but one God the father known as Yahweh and one lord the man Jesus the son of God..thou Jesus is God but his subject under his father Yahweh. Everything has been given to the son by the Father, no dispute about that. wink

We only need to read the scripture deeper.
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by chiedu7: 11:36am On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:
trinity co-equality is an error that must be rejected coz it is not in the bible..there is but one God the father known as Yahweh and one lord the man Jesus the son of God..thou Jesus is God but his subject under his father Yahweh. Everything has been given to the son by the Father, no dispute about that. wink

We only need to read the scripture deeper.

You biblical knowledge is limited sorry.
This verse declares the trinity
Jesus is the word of God and is God Himself.
The Holy Spirit is God too.

1 John 5:7 (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Maamin(m): 11:44am On Dec 11, 2014
chiedu7:


You biblical knowledge is limited sorry.
This verse declares the trinity
Jesus is the word of God and is God Himself.
The Holy Spirit is God too.

1 John 5:7 (KJV)
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

I did not say trinity but trinity co-equality..besides that verse have a lot of controversy on it but I dont want to go into that. The father is greater than all..the father is responsible for sending the Son and the Holy spirit. Did the holy spirit or Son ever sent the father? NO!

That is all I want you to know..the son was from God and submit to God the father, the Holy spirit is also from God.

Shalom aleikhem
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by chiedu7: 12:19pm On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:


I did not say trinity but trinity co-equality..besides that verse have a lot of controversy on it but I dont want to go into that. The father is greater than all..the father is responsible for sending the Son and the Holy spirit. Did the holy spirit or Son ever sent the father? NO!

That is all I want you to know..the son was from God and submit to God the father, the Holy spirit is also from God.

Shalom aleikhem

GOD ALWAYS EXALTS GOD OF THE GODHEAD.[/b]

[b]JESUS SAID THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN HIM.


John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you.
If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father:
for my Father is greater than I.


YET THE FATHER HAS GIVEN JESUS A NAME ABOVE ANY OTHER NAME, INCLUDING HIS


Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him,
and given him a name which is above every name:

THE FATHER SAID TO WORSHIP JESUS NOT HIM.


Hebrews 1:6
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world,
he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.



YET TO SHOW YOU AGAIN THAT THE HOLY GHOST IS EXHALTED TOO,
JESUS SAID ALL SIN WILL BE FORGIVEN BUT SIN AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT!
SO JESUS IS SAYING INSULT HIM, YOU'D BE FORGIVEN BUT INSULT THE HOLY GHOST AND YOU ARE FINISHED


Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.




So you can see that they exhalt each other.

In fact the bible says that Jesus is EQUAL TO THE FATHER


John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath,
but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by nobilis: 12:19pm On Dec 11, 2014
OP, please, I didn't go to school. In your mighty and unfathomable wisdom, explain to me how:
Sabbath of the Lord and Lord of the Sabbath mean the same thing.
Mbok, tell me let me understand. I don't understand grammar.
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Maamin(m): 1:09pm On Dec 11, 2014
GOD ALWAYS EXALTS GOD OF THE GODHEAD.[/b]

[b]JESUS SAID THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN HIM.


John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you.
If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father:
for my Father is greater than I.


YET THE FATHER HAS GIVEN JESUS A NAME ABOVE ANY OTHER NAME, [b]INCLUDING HIS
[/b]

Where in the bible did Jesus or God said the last bolded? shocked let me help you out of your maze
1 Cor.15:24-28
"24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."

wink

Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him,
and given him a name which is above every name:

THE FATHER SAID TO WORSHIP JESUS NOT HIM.


Hebrews 1:6
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world,
he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

All things was given to Christ yes!..we to pray in his name and ask in his nameso that through the son the father will be glorified. God still remain all in all ok. wink

YET TO SHOW YOU AGAIN THAT THE HOLY GHOST IS EXHALTED TOO,
JESUS SAID ALL SIN WILL BE FORGIVEN BUT SIN AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT!
SO JESUS IS SAYING INSULT HIM, YOU'D BE FORGIVEN BUT INSULT THE HOLY GHOST AND YOU ARE FINISHED


Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


The holy spirit is the Spirit of God it proceeds from God the father..this same spirit was used to anoint Christ. It is this spirit that works within Christ people for good..so I still have not gotten your point about the verse.


So you can see that they exhalt each other.

In fact the bible says that Jesus is EQUAL TO THE FATHER


John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath,
but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.



They exhalt each other indeed..but Jesus said the Holy spirit is to take from what is his(Jesus) and teach us and guide us to all truth..listen and read closely here..Jesus says again he will ask God the father to send the Spirit of truth(Holy spirit) to his talmidim (Disciples).. so u see everything revolves around the son, the son in turn is Subjected to the father..God the father remains the greatest

The jews in john 5:18, did think that Christ was taking himself to be equal to the father but this is a major misunderstanding on their part.
Jesus never considered being equal with God the father. Not for once in the scripture. So that take us back to phil 2:5-9 "being in the form of God did not considered EQUALITY a thing to hold"

Forgive my typos if u find one..am lazy when it comes to typing.
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Rilwayne001: 1:15pm On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:
trinity co-equality is an error that must be rejected coz it is not in the bible..there is but one God the father known as Yahweh and one lord the man Jesus the son of God. .thou Jesus is God but his subject under his father Yahweh. Everything has been given to the son by the Father, no dispute about that. wink

We only need to read the scripture deeper.

Yahweh is both one and only GOD/LORD
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Maamin(m): 1:36pm On Dec 11, 2014
Rilwayne001:


Yahweh is both one and only GOD/LORD

Yes my dear confused muslim brother wink. Jesus was also called lord and God in the scripture..from the verse I cut that line from..that verse is trying to tell us that they are two separate entities, thou both are God but they have separate offices with the son still a subject under the father..while the father remaims all in all.thank u cool
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Rilwayne001: 2:09pm On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:


Yes my dear confused muslim brother Jesus was also called lord and God in the scripture..from the verse I cut that line from..that verse is trying to tell us that they are two separate entities, thou both are God but they have separate offices with the son still a subject under the father..while the father remaims all in all.thank u cool
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Maamin(m): 2:33pm On Dec 11, 2014
Rilwayne001:


kiss grin How you dey?
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Rilwayne001: 2:41pm On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:


kiss grin How you dey?

I dey.

Are you a JW?
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Maamin(m): 2:51pm On Dec 11, 2014
Rilwayne001:


I dey.

Are you a JW?

Noooo.. wink
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by An2elect2: 3:18pm On Dec 11, 2014
mperoakeem:
r u jst bored or wot?.where in d bible jesus said he's God.
When jesus died 4 3 days(as u claimed), wu was in control of d earth, d world in total?
My guy, wise up and stop taking dose tin, u're not a rastaman

Jesus is God. You are not wise.

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Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Rilwayne001: 3:23pm On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:


Noooo.. wink

Okay undecided
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by An2elect2: 3:28pm On Dec 11, 2014
chiedu7:




When Jesus died There is still God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.

Naaaah this is where you missed it, Chiedu. God is a spirit and cannot die. Christ had the Spirit of God and the nature of man. When Christ died, His Divinity did not die. What died was His flesh. God forbid that the eternal spirit of God should die.
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by An2elect2: 3:32pm On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:
trinity co-equality is an error that must be rejected coz it is not in the bible..there is but one God the father known as Yahweh and one lord the man Jesus the son of God..thou Jesus is God but his subject under his father Yahweh. Everything has been given to the son by the Father, no dispute about that. wink

We only need to read the scripture deeper.

You again. What is this nonsense you keep saying. There is only one God who is the Father and Jesus the man who is also God but separate from the Father. How many Gods are there then? can't you spot your own contradiction?
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Maamin(m): 3:53pm On Dec 11, 2014
An2elect2:


You again. What is this nonsense you keep saying. There is only one God who is the Father is God and Jesus the man who is also God. How many Gods are there then? can't you spot your own contradiction?

You lack understanding..there is just one true God but that does not mean there are no other Gods.

Even God knows there are other Gods..he says in the 10 commandment hebrew " Lo yihyehlekha elohim acherim alpanai"
      ( Not, you shall have no other gods other before me)
Then he says again in Isaia 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

That is why he is the all in all ok. Dont get confused in the person of Christ. He is the Son of God..being call God does not make him equal with Yahweh.. God is just a title ok before you start foaming through your mouth sad..Yahweh is different from Yahshua.

And I saw the nonsense and crap you were saying on the other thread I dont argue much. I tell you what it is and leave you to figure it out. Start from John 3:16 again. sad

Till you know that Yahweh is not Jesus kiss
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by An2elect2: 4:04pm On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:


You lack understanding..there is just one true God but that does not mean there are no other Gods.

Even God knows there are other Gods..he says in the 10 commandment hebrew " Lo yihyehlekha elohim acherim alpanai"
      ( Not, you shall have no other gods other before me)
Then he says again in Isaia 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

That is why he is the all in all ok. Dont get confused in the person of Christ. He is the Son of God..being call God does not make him equal with Yahweh.. God is just a title ok before you start foaming through your mouth sad..Yahweh is different from Yahshua.

And I saw the nonsense and crap you were saying on the other thread I dont argue much. I tell you what it is and leave you to figure it out. Start from John 3:16 again. sad

Till you know that Yahweh is not Jesus kiss
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by An2elect2: 4:04pm On Dec 11, 2014
Maamin:


You lack understanding..there is just one true God but that does not mean there are no other Gods.

Even God knows there are other Gods..he says in the 10 commandment hebrew " Lo yihyehlekha elohim acherim alpanai"
      ( Not, you shall have no other gods other before me)
Then he says again in Isaia 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"

That is why he is the all in all ok. Dont get confused in the person of Christ. He is the Son of God..being call God does not make him equal with Yahweh.. God is just a title ok before you start foaming through your mouth sad..Yahweh is different from Yahshua.

And I saw the nonsense and crap you were saying on the other thread I dont argue much. I tell you what it is and leave you to figure it out. Start from John 3:16 again. sad

Till you know that Yahweh is not Jesus kiss

Utter rubbish. This is how they twist scriptures to their own destruction. Look at me thinking the trinity doc is the worst explanation of God's nature. Didn't know there is one that surpassed it in confusion.
I'll advice you seek for understanding from God before you dive into what you don't understand.
Re: The Jews Worshiped Jesus In The Old Testament Without Knowing It by Maamin(m): 4:13pm On Dec 11, 2014
An2elect2:


Utter rubbish. This is how they twist scriptures to their own destruction. Look at me thinking the trinity doc is the worst explanation of God's nature. Didn't know there is one that surpassed it in confusion.
I'll advice you seek for understanding from God before you dive into what you don't understand.

you are still coming up. Read john 3:16 ok..that should be enough for now.

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