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Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 8:24pm On Dec 12, 2014
Intuition & logic, a combination otherwise referred to as "common sense" is quite in dearth. Perhaps, this is debatable.
But, on countless occasions, I have witnessed a situation whereby people basically ignored or fail to see a fact/an idea that was impressively nudging their consciousness, despite (claiming) painstaking search for such fact.
One of such occasions is the close-scrutiny/detailed-analysis of the choice of GMB's personality & profile as being the right candidate & panacea for the change in governance outcome which we strongly advocate.
I can't just fathom why some people don't see or consciously refused to acknowledge the answer they seek in him

The greatest monster of this nation is corruption.
And despite the huge efforts of our past & current leaders in effecting good governance, all have been the proverbial tale of the "Àbíkú" rendering the diviner/herbalist as fake & fraud!.
And the reason is not far-fetched.
None of them has ever made anti-corruption as a primal item in his agenda.
We are not talking here about some wishful shadow-chasing activities.
The brain-box of the nation's government function - the Civil Service, is riddled with corruption in Gordian knot manner. You need an Alexandrian character to slash it.
No meaningful development can occur atop these ruins of foundational pillage.
These attributes are well established in no-one else than GMB among all the leaders we have ever had.
In addition, he has been singing only one tune since 2003 which is "Anti-corruption" song.
And as a Presiding Officer in 2011 series of elections in Imo-State where I did my NYSC, I watched during the Presidential poll as the oppositions in huge number came together in coalition to massively vote & RIGGED (putting me & my assistant under coercion) for PDP!!
I just shook my head then as I reasoned within me wondering how people could, in unanimity, chose to be blind, mortgaging their future, gleams of hope & breakthrough away!


But, then, I have certain fear with GMB meeting the expectation of his teeming longsuffering fans & believers.
And these challenges are :
* the separation of power in democracy.
* the profligate & highly-corrupt legislators.
* the peculiarity of our system e.g the religious divisions, the ethnic issues, large population size, the federalism style of authority/control sharing etc cetera.

The prolific antecedents of GMB in the context of the fleeting developments we ever witnessed in this nation occurred during the military junta era whereby the legislative & executive machineries were combined/merged into one producing what you call Absolutism.
Which is why I keep thinking Nigeria is probably unripe for adopting the system of nations we are modelling after.
Those nations do not have the 2 latter challenges outlined above, which as a matter of fact forms an indelible feature of our nation's default modus operandi!

I keep asking myself, providing GMB operates within only the confines of his granted constitutional power/authority & his personality/characters won't allow him to do "some inside trading" or lobbying as the learneds call it, how then is he going to :
* curtail the NASS extravagances?
* restructure the Civil Service, gleaned off his garbage & rots ?
* handle the overly sensitive, edgy & impatient nature of the Nigerians? (because rebuilding/reparative/healing process takes time, is not without heavy cost & invariably causes pain).
* check the thwarty moves of the NASS? (I can bet my 1-year emolument that a time will come when all the NASS members will unite, APC representatives inclusive, to remove him).

Otherwise, the story might be same.
Because the shrub has overtime matured into a gargantuan "Iroko" which now houses invincible chaos-causing deity demanding heart-rendering sacrifices from the people.
We are observing.

Cc:
Barcanista
All the thinkers, political & administrative juggernauts on Nairaland.

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Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by Nobody: 8:38pm On Dec 12, 2014
Confusion already ? Save yourself the headaches. APC cant be the change you seek because its made up of polluted ex-PDP members, leaving the new PDP politically, chromatographically clean. In GEJ, there is no confusion.

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Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 8:51pm On Dec 12, 2014
Billyonaire:
Confusion already ? Save yourself the headaches. APC cant be the change you seek because its made up of polluted ex-PDP members, leaving the new PDP politically, chromatographically clean. In GEJ, there is no confusion.

What makes you so convincingly sure that Jonathan will win?
To me, it can tilt either way Sir.
You need to sample people's opinion randomly.
A lot of expressions of dissatisfaction here & there which was not what obtained 2011.
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by Nobody: 8:55pm On Dec 12, 2014
MOBBDEEP:


What makes you so convincingly sure that Jonathan will win?
To me, it can tilt either way Sir.
You need to sample people's opinion randomly.
A lot of expressions of dissatisfaction here & there which was not what obtained 2011.
Buhari will NEVER be democratically elected President, he destroyed the system when he forcefully overthrew an elected government, and plunged us into military tenures of IBB, Abacha and Abdul Salem. If Buhari allowed Shagari to continue, our democratic institutions would have been stronger by now.

Hell No, Buhari cant be President.
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 9:10pm On Dec 12, 2014
Billyonaire:
Buhari will NEVER be democratically elected President, he destroyed the system when he forcefully overthrew an elected government, and plunged us into military tenures of IBB, Abacha and Abdul Salem. If Buhari allowed Shagari to continue, our democratic institutions would have been stronger by now.

Hell No, Buhari cant be President.

If Buhari had not hijacked the govt of the day then, it was just a matter of time for more daring/ambitious officers to do so owing to the success histories of most past attempts to takeover the govt, and also the necessitating indication for the coup i.e the profound looting by executive cabinet members, the spreading insurrection in so many regions (e.g operation "Wetie" in the West) and the weak seemingly effeminate president.

I'm sure no real democracy can evolve in the existent tumultous happenings of then
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by sweetgala(m): 10:38pm On Dec 12, 2014
A man wrote valid , though provoking post and then everything thereafter was just shambles

example

Billyonaire:
Confusion already ? Save yourself the headaches. APC cant be the change you seek because its made up of polluted ex-PDP members, leaving the new PDP politically, chromatographically clean. In GEJ, there is no confusion.


Billyonaire:
Buhari will NEVER be democratically elected President, he destroyed the system when he forcefully overthrew an elected government, and plunged us into military tenures of IBB, Abacha and Abdul Salem. If Buhari allowed Shagari to continue, our democratic institutions would have been stronger by now.
Hell No, Buhari cant be President.
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 5:23am On Dec 13, 2014
sweetgala:
A man wrote valid , though provoking post and then everything thereafter was just shambles

example






That's the angle from which he draws his perspectives.
We just have to respect his position & opinions, even if we don't exactly agree.
You can't just have overnight a die-hard loyalist of a leading party talk in positive & supportive manner in favour of the opposition party.
Not at all!, it'd be quite difficult.
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 1:21pm On Dec 17, 2014
LaBarca, I can see that you are a frontliner & forerunner for Buhari.
I have equally believed in him agelong ago.
But it still beats me how he would cow the NASS hegemony in the democratic dispensation.
I sincerely believe the power division in democracy is skewed too much to the favor of the legislators & that the executive head (the president) is just a mere stooge/puppet at the whims of the NASS members especially when their principles/ideals of operation are at variance.

What is your take on this?
I'm afraid Buhari might not significantly perform better at the end of the day.
Not because he's not of a better presidential attributes, but because the political clime & government blueprint are doomed by default.

Or is there a way out ?
Just wondering!!!
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by Nobody: 1:33pm On Dec 17, 2014
MOBBDEEP:
LaBarca, I can see that you are a frontliner & forerunner for Buhari.
I have equally believed in him agelong ago.
But it still beats me how he would cow the NASS hegemony in the democratic dispensation.
I sincerely believe the power division in democracy is skewed too much to the favor of the legislators & that the executive head (the president) is just a need stooge/puppet in at the whims of the NASS members especially when their principles/ideals of operation are at variance.

What is your take on this?
I'm afraid Buhari might not sugnificantly perform better at the end of the day.
Not because he's not of a better presidential attributes, but because the political clime & government blueprint are doomed by default.

Or is there a way out ?
Just wondering!!!
Thank you for this poser. The three organs of Government have each their responsibilities clearly defined. Contrary to what you think, the President is not at the mercies of the legislators in terms of service delivery. The President along with his Federal Executive council that comprises the VP, Ministers, SGF and other Senior Cabinet members formulate policies in accordance to the law. Where there is need for amendment of existing law to aid their function, he sends executive bill to the NASS. The NASS in turn will monitor the executives to ensure that public interest is put above anything else and also ensure that their actions and expenditures in according to the laws. They don't get involve or interfere with Executive functions, it is not their business. For Instance, in fighting corruption, there are existing laws in place via EFCC, ICPC, Penal code and other laws. The Chairmen of antigraft agencies along with the Attorney General could prosecute even the Sitting Senate President or others not covered by immunity. Only in cases where the President has committed impeachable offence that the NASS could flex muscle with him or cajole him(as we have in this administration).

So don't be afraid
Hope I'm clear?
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 1:52pm On Dec 17, 2014
laBarca:
Thank you for this poser. The three organs of Government have each their responsibilities clearly defined. Contrary to what you think, the President is not at the mercies of the legislators in terms of service delivery. The President along with his Federal Executive council that comprises the VP, Ministers, SGF and other Senior Cabinet members formulate policies in accordance to the law. Where there is need for ney General could prosecute even the Sitting Senate President or others not covered by immunity. Only in cases where the Pr

So don't be afraid
Hope I'm clear?

Nice response LaBarca.
I understand these concepts fundamentally albeit my scientific inclination.
Remember one of the primary & key decision to solving the rots of this nation is DRASTIC CUTBACK in the funds going to maintenance/running of government organs especially the Legislative & Executive arms ( emphasis on the NASS ).
I remembered vividly Emir Sanusi & Prof. Okonjo Iweala citing some 4yrs back that ~25% of our annual national budget goes to NASS ( initially it was debatably total annual budget but they later settled for recurrent expenditure when the heat became too much )

Now, can you opine how he would achieve this cutback?

Likewise, it was a confirmed circulating news 2yrs ago that the annual feeding budgeted expenditure for presidency is put at 2Billion Naira?
Now, how can he reduce this because activities like this amount to only self-destruct/termination.
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by Nobody: 2:11pm On Dec 17, 2014
MOBBDEEP:


Nice response LaBarca.
I understand these concepts fundamentally albeit my scientific inclination.
Remember one of the primary & key decision to solving the rots of this nation is DRASTIC CUTBACK in the funds going to maintenance/running of government organs especially the Legislative & Executive arms ( emphasis on the NASS ).
I remembered vividly Emir Sanusi & Prof. Okonjo Iweala citing some 4yrs back that ~25% of our annual national budget goes to NASS ( initially it was debatably total annual budget but they later settled for recurrent expenditure when the heat became too much )

Now, can you opine how he would achieve this cutback?

Likewise, it was a confirmed circulating news 2yrs ago that the annual feeding budgeted expenditure for presidency is put at 2Billion Naira?
Now, how can he reduce this because activities like this amount to only self-destruct/termination.
Fiscal Policy is solely determined by the Executive, and as I said in my previous response the National Assembly duty is to ensure that the budgets is in the overall public interest, it is feasible and also carryout oversight as regards implementation. They don't determine what is allocated as recurrent expenditure and what is not. They are not the Budget office neither can they usurp the powers of the Executive. We have Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission that determines the earnings of all political office holders including legislators. This Commission is bound by law to determine who earns what, including allowances etc. Though autonomous, it is tied to the apron of the Executive and is highly influenced by the government in power. Trust me it starts from RMAFC.

As for other budgetary expenditure and maintainance of offices, the Finance Minister and Budget office makes the budget for those of the President, while the National Assembly Leadership prepare theirs. Once the President lead by example, the NASS will have no option but to fall in line or face public backlash. With a sincere government in power, 75% of money earned and looted will be blocked. Kwankwaso did it in Kano State, it is not a rocket science
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by GBTYO: 2:13pm On Dec 17, 2014
If you can honestly say in your heart that Tinubu is not corrupt, then let your Buhari be president come 2015
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 2:28pm On Dec 17, 2014
laBarca:
Fiscal Policy is solely determined by the Executive, and as I said in my previous response the National Assembly duty is to ensure that the budgets is in the overall public interest, it is feasible and also carryout oversight as regards implementation. . With a sincere government in power, 75% of money earned and looted will be blocked. Kwankwaso did it in Kano State, it is not a rocket science


Now , I understand.
But supposing after making himself a worthy example, the NASS refuses to follow through & rather, resort to dirty fight of impeaching him, would the public outcry be enough?
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 2:36pm On Dec 17, 2014
GBTYO:
If you can honestly say in your heart that Tinubu is not corrupt, then let your Buhari be president come 2015

His candidacy & right principles has little to do with Tinubu.
It's been reported repeatedly that, albeit his moral frailities, Tinubu has a track-record of identifying political talents & seasoned administrators e.g Aregbesola, Osibanjo, Fashola, Olorunibe Mamora et cetera
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by Nobody: 2:36pm On Dec 17, 2014
MOBBDEEP:


Now , I understand.
But supposing after making himself a worthy example, the NASS refuses to follow through & rather, resort to dirty fight of impeaching him, would the public outcry be enough?
You can't just wake up to impeach a President without establishing any impeachable offence against him. The process of Impeachment does not start and end with the NASS. After their resolution, the CJN will constitute 7-man panel to investigate the allegations, if it is considered that nothing is established against the President, the impeachment process hit the rocks. Again the legislators are not there for themselves, they represent constituencies and the constituents may decide to recall some of them or wait to punish them at the polls. With the PVC it is very easy to coordinate the process of recall for a legislator

As for they following disciplined budget for themselves, the executive is in charge of money, it can decide to allocate what is best for the NASS but justified for the sake of public interest through the Finance Minister. If the executive doesn't, then the polls will be the next meeting place
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by GBTYO: 2:38pm On Dec 17, 2014
MOBBDEEP:


Tinubu has a track-record of identifying political talents & seasoned administrators e.g Aregbesola, Osibanjo, Fashola, Olorunibe Mamora et cetera

You mean puppets that have been well packaged to look like the next best thing!
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 2:46pm On Dec 17, 2014
laBarca:
Fiscal Policy is solely determined by theeirs. Once the President lead by example, the NASS will have no option but to fall in line or face public backlash. With a sincere government in power, 75% of money earned and looted will be blocked. Kwankwaso did it in Kano State, it is not a rocket science
Thank you for the explanation.
Then, I guess it should be a straight easy job righting the ills of this nation if he gets the mandate.
I have never waived my faith for once in the choice of his candidacy.
The means of achieving the desired result was my headache.
But now , thanks to your explanation, I understand.
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by MOBBDEEP: 2:48pm On Dec 17, 2014
GBTYO:


You mean puppets that have been well packaged to look like the next best thing!

Why would you say that?
You have better performers than these guys ?
Re: Separation Of Power In Democracy & Fate Of GMB by Nobody: 2:56pm On Dec 17, 2014
MOBBDEEP:

Thank you for the explanation.
Then, I guess it should be a straight easy job righting the ills of this nation if he gets the mandate.
I have never waived my faith for once in the choice of his candidacy.
The means of achieving the desired result was my headache.
But now , thanks to your explanation, I understand.
You are welcome. God bless you forever

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