Mavor:
Just to augment what you said, there is no such thing as good and evil before God. There is only God's will and rejection/rebellion against his will. Consider the following as may be defined by some people

1) God is the creator of everything that exists.
2) Evil exists.
3) Therefore, God is the creator of evil.

The problem with this logic chain is in point 2, that evil is something. For evil is not a thing; it is the lack of a good thing that God made. “Evil is a lack of goodness. It is goodness spoiled. You can have good without evil, but you cannot have evil without good.”

Goodness has existed as an attribute of God from all eternity. While God is perfectly holy and just, He is also perfectly good. Just as God has always existed, so too has goodness as it is a facet of God’s holy character. The same cannot be said for evil. Evil came into being with the rebellion of Satan and subsequently entered the physical universe with the fall of Adam.

I find it interesting, when you guys contradict yourself and also think that you have an in depth analysis of the subject matter. You sniff your own anus and ask what is that smell...

According to you. Evil exist but it is not a thing, it is goodness spoiled. WTF..!!! That right there makes evil a thing..!!

You also said you can have good without evil.. but you can't have evil without good... Smh.. May I remind you that this is a public forum not sunday school.

What is evil..? Evil is a blackman believing that he is a descendant of Abraham and a dead jew he never met died for sins he allegedly committed the minute he was conceived. that right there is evil, because you have to hate yourself to accommodate this as a good thing..

GooseBaba:


I find it interesting, when you guys contradict yourself and also think that you have an in depth analysis of the subject matter. You sniff your own anus and ask what is that smell...

According to you. Evil exist but it is not a thing, it is goodness spoiled. WTF..!!! That right there makes evil a thing..!!

You also said you can have good without evil.. but you can't have evil without good... Smh.. May I remind you that this is a public forum not sunday school.

What is evil..? Evil is a blackman believing that he is a descendant of Abraham and a dead jew he never met died for sins he allegedly committed the minute he was conceived. that right there is evil, because you have to hate yourself to accommodate this as a good thing..

You're barking up the wrong tree. Am guessing you are replying to the wrong thread. Cheers m8.

Mavor:
You're barking up the wrong tree. Am guessing you are replying to the wrong thread. Cheers m8.

keep sniffing your anus...Mr "Evil is not a thing" it just appeared when goodness sour... Arrant rubbish.!!

chizzily:
I just wonder sometimes, if sin was in heaven the first time what makes us so sure it won't be there the second time. afterall almost everything God created perfect ended up being imperfect.

anyway evil and good comes from the lord

may God 4 give u madam

brainiac007:


I appreciate your patience in trying to inform these people. But it seems this thread was created purely to fuel arguments and not for a sincere search for truth. When they meet their maker, let them ask Him to His face or better still ask the devil since they seem to be quite intimate with him. We who believe, believe and there is nothing any mere mortal can do about it!

Lol thats true tho! Thanks man

Your question is a leading question. Try to b more honest next time.

Here is my question....
We all have been saying God gave both Angels and Man the freewill.... Now is Garden of Eden as beautiful and Glorious as Heaven? No. I guess.

The reason Angels r loyal and committed to the Most High is because their abode up there in heaven is far better than the world we humans are... now how do u expect them to Sin when they all know there is nothing precious than their abode.. now take we humans from here and put us in that same abode I bet it we will never consider coming to this world again....

The abode up there despite the freewill of the Angels we should all know no evil force can gain entrance into the atmospehere in heaven but here on earth we should know Devil rules .. so why won't he be able to change the human race... I sure know if angels are sent to abide here on earth within a short period of time devil will gain more since they can also choose between good and evil... Lord God help us all..... He is I am that I am...

I wonder why people speak of serious matters occuring beyond their understanding. Why would any sane mortal thread on forbidden extra-mundane territory? Some of you move about with cursed lives not knowing how the curses came about, soon you will seek for endless deliverance sessions. Can't you, a mortal, keep quiet and be safe over metaphysical matters? Has foolishness eaten so deeply that you cannot simply decipher the difference between physical and spiritual issues? And I read many ignoramuses flaunting their folly on spiritual matters without shame. May God Forgive You All who have hereby blasphemed if you feel remorse.

Good and evil have always been in existence right from the beginning of time itself. Remember when Adam ate the fruit of good and evil, God drove them out of the garden saying

"Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil and now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever." Genesis 3:22

So, heavenly beings like angels know good and evil and so did satan. Where did evil come from? Actually, I can't tell cause some things are just mystery, but one thing I know is that, good and evil exist to create a balance and is now left for you to make a choice. He create u with freewill and evey choices comes with an outcome, either good or bad.

The Sugmad(God) created the various levels or planes with each governed by their respective lord or god( one of such is 'Jehovah God'). There are two major divisions -- the upper and the lower. The physical plane being part of the latter is designed for the education of soul and the chief administrator of karma is the devil specifically created as such by God. Someday, Soul that is you and I shall see and understand the duties and functions of all the many beings at work in ensuring Soul get the right spiritual training to become a coworker with God. Feel free to believe otherwise as you wish until then.

chizzily:
I just wonder sometimes, if sin was in heaven the first time what makes us so sure it won't be there the second time. afterall almost everything God created perfect ended up being imperfect.

anyway evil and good comes from the lord

are u an atheist?