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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by ogawisdom(m): 8:35pm On Dec 26, 2014
D impt thing is dt d saviour is worth setting a day aside to celebrate cool

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Nobody: 8:36pm On Dec 26, 2014
Ok
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Nobody: 8:37pm On Dec 26, 2014
Jesus wasn't born on Christmas. Christmas has more to do with Saturnalia or Saturn. And Saturnalia/Saturn=Capricorn.
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by 1stola: 8:38pm On Dec 26, 2014
STOREY FOR THE gODS...

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Hexzyz(m): 8:39pm On Dec 26, 2014
Christmas no dey Bible


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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by romzyxy(m): 8:40pm On Dec 26, 2014
cudnt read it all bt my suggestion is that they shud stop dix argument cos it wont change the date at all. 25th ll always remain as celebration day.
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by bright007(f): 8:41pm On Dec 26, 2014
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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by cocoduck: 8:44pm On Dec 26, 2014
Ignorance is a disease. he doesn't even know basic geography. Right now in Palestine and Israel is winter

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Speakdatruth: 8:47pm On Dec 26, 2014
objection no 5: must ds issue bring controversy every year?
y not we just accept d fact dat Christ was born n leave d date alone?
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Equiano: 8:47pm On Dec 26, 2014
Op why are there no record(s) of the disciples of jesus celebrating jesus birthday on 25 of december recorded in the entire Bible, even after his death? Was Jesus such a dummy to even mention or celebrate his birthday throughout his 33 and half years on earth? Or did he forget?

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Ubenedictus(m): 8:49pm On Dec 26, 2014
santana45:
It has never been true and can never be true. Christ was not born on 25th December.
this is a plain statement without proof.

Go on and tell dear friend why it cant be true.
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Speakdatruth: 8:50pm On Dec 26, 2014
bright007:
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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Nobody: 8:50pm On Dec 26, 2014
Bravo!

*standing ovation
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Nobody: 8:51pm On Dec 26, 2014
WHERE IS THE PROOF THAT 'JESUS' WAS BORN AT ALL?

THERE'S NONE.

OP STOP PERPETRATING MYTH AS FACT.

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by nairaman66(m): 8:52pm On Dec 26, 2014
No HE wasn't!
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by LogoDWhiz(m): 8:54pm On Dec 26, 2014
Wow!
This is interesting
An eye-opener
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by ihedioramma: 8:56pm On Dec 26, 2014
[quote author=Ubenedictus post=29170885]The Catholic Church, from at least the second century, has claimed that Christ was born on December 25. However, it is commonly alleged that our Lord Jesus Christ was not born on December 25.
For the sake of simplicity, let us set out the usual objections to the date of December 25 and counter each of them.


Objection 1: December 25 was chosen in order to replace the pagan Roman festival of Saturnalia. Saturnalia was a popular winter festival and so the
Catholic Church prudently substituted Christmas in its place.


Reply to Objection 1: Saturnalia
commemorated the winter solstice. Yet the winter solstice falls on December 22.
It is true that Saturnalia celebrations began as early as December 17 and extended till December 23. Still, the dates don’t match up.


Objection 2: December 25 was .”


My dear we dont need this things. what christ want from us is to obey him and love our follow human as we love our self . happy christmas not xmas .

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by tirexmanov(m): 8:57pm On Dec 26, 2014
blah blah blah...starting to fall asleep... during those days dere were no calender.. so how was it December... just saying
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Malakh: 8:58pm On Dec 26, 2014
These Pagans are worshiping and celebrating the "light-bearer" aka Lucifer on 25th of December calling it Christ-Mass....mind you Christ never kept Mass, was not a Catholic but an a colored Hebrew Israelite not a white boy white blue eyes and long hair,long hair is not part of our culture as men except you are under a nazarite vow

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Tallesty1(m): 8:59pm On Dec 26, 2014
History said this, History said that, ok let's assume that he was actually born on 25th. Let's agree for a moment that 25th was actually his birthday.

Did he tell you to celebrate it?

The books of the New Testament cover 30+ years of Jesus Christ's life, then another 30+ years of the early Church following His death and resurrection, but nowhere do we find any hint of a Christmas celebration, not one

The Bible does give us quite a few details of His birth, the angelic appearance to Mary and then Joseph, the conditions surrounding His birth in Bethlehem, the heavenly choir's performance for the shepherds in the fields outside the town. But that was all, no where in the Bible is there any record of anyone observing Christmas or any hint that God the Father or Jesus Christ expects us to do so.

I Quote Paul. "For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, 'Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.'
"In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, 'This cup is the new covenant in My blood.This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me. 'For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes . . . Let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup"(1 Corinthians:11:23-28).
This is what he wants us to. His death and resurrection are what should be observed.

Jesus himself never celebrated his birthday but He kept the Passover (1 Corinthians:11:23-26). He observed the Days of Unleavened Bread (Acts:20:6;1 Corinthians:5:7-cool. The New Testament Church itself was founded on the Feast of Pentecost (Acts:2:1), another biblical festival they clearly observed (Acts:20:16). They likewise kept the Day of Atonement (called "the Fast" in Acts:27:9) and the Feast of Tabernacles (John:7:2, 10).

Christmas, meanwhile, is totally missing from the biblical record.




Now tell me, wetin concern Christmas tree with birth of Jesus and the remembrance of his birthday? Do they relate in any way

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Malakh: 9:00pm On Dec 26, 2014
These Pagans are worshiping and celebrating the "light-bearer" aka Lucifer on 25th of December calling it Christ-Mass....mind you Christ never kept Mass, was not a Catholic but a colored Hebrew Israelite not a white boy with blue eyes and long hair,long hair is not part of our culture as men, except you are under a nazarite vow....dumb pagans called christians

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by CanadaCars(m): 9:01pm On Dec 26, 2014
Ubenedictus:
Now ask yourself: Would the Blessed Virgin Mary ever forget the birth of her Son Jesus Christ who was conceived without human seed, proclaimed by angels, born in a miraculous way, and visited by Magi? She knew from the moment of His incarnation in her stainless womb that He was the Son of God and Messiah. Would she ever forget
that day?



Next, ask yourself: Would the Apostles be interested in hearing Mary tell the story?
Of course they would. Do you think the holy Apostle who wrote, “And the Word was made flesh,” was not interested in the minute details of His birth? Even when we walk around with our kids son, people always ask “How
old is he?” or “When was he born?”
Don’t you think people asked this
question of Mary?
So the exact birth date (December 25) and the time (midnight) would have been known in the first century.
Moreover, the Apostles would have asked about it and would have, no doubt, commemorated the blessed event that both Saint Matthew and Saint Luke chronicle for us. In summary, it is completely reasonable to state that the early Christians both knew and commemorated the birth of Christ. Their source would have been His Immaculate Mother.


Further testimony reveals that the
Church Fathers claimed December 25 as the Birthday of Christ prior to the conversion of Constantine and the Roman Empire. The earliest record of this is that Pope Saint Telesphorus (reigned A.D. 126-137) instituted the tradition of Midnight Mass on Christmas
Eve. Although the Liber Pontificalis does not give us the date of Christmas, it assumes that the Pope was already celebrating Christmas and that a Mass at
midnight was added. During this time, we also read the following words of Theophilus (A.D. 115-181), Catholic bishop of Caesarea in Palestine: “We ought to celebrate the birthday of Our
Lord on what day soever the 25th of December shall happen.”[vi]
Shortly thereafter in the second century, Saint Hippolytus (A.D. 170-240) wrote in passing that the birth of Christ occurred
on December 25:
"The First Advent of our Lord in the flesh occurred when He was born in Bethlehem, was December 25th, a Wednesday, while Augustus was in his forty-second year, which is five thousand and five hundred years from Adam. He suffered in the thirty-third year, March 25th, Friday, the eighteenth
year of Tiberius Caesar, while Rufus and Roubellion were Consuls.
Also note in the quote above the special significance of March 25, which marks the death of Christ (March 25 was assumed to corresponded to the Hebrew month Nisan 14 – the traditional
date of crucifixion). Christ, as the
perfect man, was believed to have been conceived and died on the same day— March 25. In his Chronicon, Saint Hippolytus states that the earth was created on March 25, 5500 B.C. Thus,
March 25 was identified by the Church Fathers as the Creation date of the universe, as the date of the Annunciation and Incarnation of Christ, and also as the date of the Death of
Christ our Savior.

In the Syrian Church, March 25 or the Feast of the Annunciation was seen as one of the most important feasts of the entire year. It denoted the day that God took up his abode in the womb of the Virgin. In fact, if the Annunciation and Good Friday came into conflict on the calendar, the Annunciation trumped it, so important was the day in Syrian tradition. It goes without saying that the Syrian Church preserved some of the most ancient Christian traditions and had a sweet and profound devotion for the Incarnation of Christ.

Now then, March 25 was enshrined in the early Christian tradition, and from this date it is easy to discern the date of Christ’s birth. March 25 (Christ conceived
by the Holy Ghost) plus nine months brings us to December 25 (the birth of Christ at Bethlehem).
Saint Augustine confirms this tradition of March 25 as the Messianic conception and December 25 as His birth:
"For Christ is believed to have been conceived on the 25th of March, upon which day also he suffered; so the womb of the Virgin, in which he was conceived, where no one of mortals was begotten, corresponds to the new grave in which he was buried, wherein was never man laid, neither before him nor since. But he was born, according to tradition, upon December the 25th."


All these are to justify ur celebration of this pagan festival. Jesus lived on earth for 33 and half years. Count six months from December 25 and tell me if Nissan 14 corresponds with June. Do not blind ur mind to reason.

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by andico34: 9:03pm On Dec 26, 2014
We read that just after the Virgin Mary conceived Christ, she went
to visit her cousin Elizabeth who was six months pregnant with John the Baptist.......

Mary was already pregnant when she went to visit Elisabeth.....that means she was already in her FIRST MONTH while Elisabeth was in her SIXTH MONTH.......John the Baptist, CHRIST s cousin is 5 MONTHS older than JESUS.....can prove this Biblically......JESUS was born on the 17th day of the month of TISHRI...the SEVENTH MONTH of the HEBREW calendar.....crucified on the 15th day of the FIRST month....and resurrected on the 17th day of the FIRST MONTH....can explain all this later
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by annita19(f): 9:07pm On Dec 26, 2014
Jesus is as real as Santa Claus
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by fctboy: 9:07pm On Dec 26, 2014
The bible has no record of the exact date Jesus was born therefore all arguments, guise work cannot hold water. All that I know is one day Jesus was conceived and born by virgin Mary.

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by amparas(m): 9:08pm On Dec 26, 2014
Oh religion! The real weapon on earth
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Vikkie14: 9:08pm On Dec 26, 2014
Forget it. No matter the grammer you just spew out there, i don't give a damn. As far as History tells me, CHRIST BIRTHDAY WAS NEVER ON 25th.
Do you understand the difference between WINTER and SUMMER? If you do, then that write-up is trash. You are typing from your own level of theology.

According to Bible, the shepherd were out with their sheeps when the angels appear to them telling them of Jesus birth. So, the shepherds were out looking over their flocks and only WINTER(cold time) fit into that season. And winter is not December.

#PonderOnThis

If you believe Jesus Birthday was not December, hit LIKE

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Orikinla(m): 9:08pm On Dec 26, 2014
OP, you are brilliant and your historical analysis is enough to enlighten the millions of ignorant followers of misleading sects.

Because the prophet lied
Thousands have died
And thousand more will follow
Because of the lies of this strange fellow.

~ Ekenyerengozi Michael Chima

From The Prophet Lied, http://www.amazon.com/Prophet-Lied-Michael-Chima-Ekenyerengozi/dp/1481088351/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1419624275&sr=1-3&keywords=ekenyerengozi+michael+chima.


Matthew 7:15-20King James Version (KJV)


15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Joel3(m): 9:09pm On Dec 26, 2014
what? All i care about is give me the chicken , pounded yam, rice and the acohol for this unchangeable holiday fist. december 25th is cool for the date. Weither its the real birth date or not. But 25th december sound the best day in the year for xmas holiday close to new year just a week.
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by mizzyboy007: 9:11pm On Dec 26, 2014
Crocz:
I swear by God, and the gods of yorubaland...both the new and the old, Jesus was not born on Dec 25th!



Dec 25th was a Pagan day for worshipping the Sun god...the Roman Catholic fix that day so has to stop pagans who converted worshipping other thing on that day!
nna ehnnn...... dis ur English na fire...... anyways still on the matter. #Buhari2015
Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by jumbo44(m): 9:11pm On Dec 26, 2014
[/color][color=#006600]LORD MY GOD

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Re: Yes, Christ Was Really Born On December 25 by Nobody: 9:14pm On Dec 26, 2014
Bleep

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