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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by nellyelitz(m): 10:34am On Dec 29, 2017
AlBaqir:
Wishing all our christian brethren a merry Christmas and happy new year in advance.
you're not an extremist

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by nellyelitz(m): 10:36am On Dec 29, 2017
OgologoDimkpa:
Which God do you worship in Islam? That blood thirsty arabic demon that delights in killing, beheading, maiming and bombing undecided?
Tufiakwa!
you mean munumed that fvks kids?
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by mujahid777(m): 10:36am On Dec 29, 2017
OgologoDimkpa:
[s]Which God do you worship in Islam? That blood thirsty arabic demon that delights in killing, beheading, maiming and bombing undecided? [/s]
Sharap dere!


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EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows
down Amalek and his people.
EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave
may be beaten to death with no punishment for
the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die
too quickly.
EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side,
and go in and out from gate to gate throughout
the camp, and slay every man his brother, and
every man his companion, and every man his
neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites slay 3000 men.
LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if
they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before
your sword."
LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you,
which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a
punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the
flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers
and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An
example is given in JG 11:30-39 )
NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great
plague.
NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven
days because she and Aaron had spoken against
Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had
gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at
the Lord's command.
NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open
and swallow up the men and their households
(including wives and children) because the men
had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250
men.
NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700
people.
NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the
Canaanites.
NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill
many Israelites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites
slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until
there was not one survivor left ...."
NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses,
take all the heads of the people, and hang them
up before the Lord against the sun ...."
NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the
tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of
Israel, and the woman through her belly."
NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the
Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women
and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's
command, orders the Israelites to kill all the
Midianite male children and "... every woman who
has known man ...." (Note: How would it be
determined which women had known men? One
can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the
Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to
be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to
"utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those
whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your
hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for
the women, the children, the livestock and
everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is
giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive
anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women"
from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.
If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no
delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the
flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your
God has given you."
JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing
for all the bloody endeavors to follow.
JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and
children--with the edge of the sword.
JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are
stoned to death because Achan had taken a
taboo thing.
JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men
and women, so that there were none who
escaped.
JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua
utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the people of Makkedah.
JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the Libnahites.
JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Eglonites.
JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Hebronites.
JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Debirites.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua
defeated the whole land ...; he left none
remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the
Lord God of Israel commanded."
JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung.
(Exceedingly cruel.)
JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand
of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was
none left that breathed ...."
JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden
their hearts that they should come against Israel
in battle, in order that they should be utterly
destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be
exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."
JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.
JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats
10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.
JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues
Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his
thumbs and big toes.
JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites
Jerusalem.
JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and
Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who
inhabited Zephath.
JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.
JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600
Philistines with an oxgoad.
JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it
through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the
ground.
JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites,
slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring
the heads back to Gideon.
JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of
Penuel.
JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.
JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people
in the city.
JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his
head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to
his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me,
so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his
servant ran him through, and he died."
JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved
daughter, his only child, according to a vow he
has made with the Lord.
JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a
man and causes him to slay thirty men.
JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the
jawbone of an ass.
JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's
eyes.
JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord,
pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and
causes his own death and that of 3000 other men
and women.
JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and
unsuspecting people of Laish.
JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men
beat on the door of an old man's house
demanding that he turn over to them a male
house guest. Instead, the old man offers his
virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or
wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and
his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish
them and do with them what seems good to you;
but against this man do not do so vile a thing."
The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The
man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and
sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of
Israel.
JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of
valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and
beasts and all that they found," and set their
towns on fire.
JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of
Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and;
also the women and little ones.... every male and
every woman that has lain with a male you shall
utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred
young virgins whom they bring back for their own
use.
1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot
soldiers.
1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with
tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for
having stolen the Ark.
1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for
looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early
Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's
abode.)
1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the
Philistines.
1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his
men cut down the Ammonites.
1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the
Philistines.
1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.
1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now
go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that
they have; do not spare them, but kill both man
and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep,
camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed
all the people with the edge of the sword."
1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before
the Lord ...."
1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry:
"Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten
thousands."
1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman
alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and
infants were included in the slaughter.)
1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.
2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.
2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.
2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth,
behead him, and take his head to David.
2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed,
their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies
hanged by the pool at Hebron.
2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded
him, and smote the Philistines ...."
2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having
exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren
throughout her life.
2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's
murderous conquests.)
2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the
horses.
2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.
2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David
wherever he went."
2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the
valley of salt and made the rest slaves.
2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.
2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he
can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba.
2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead
for the sin that David has committed.
2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes
her, then hates her.
2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.
2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the
battle in the forest of Ephraim.
2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom.
2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and
leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the
highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him,
stopped."
2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel
that kills 70,000 men.
1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered.
1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered.
1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered.
1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating
bread and drinking water in a place where the
Lord had previously told him not to. This is in
spite of the fact that the man had subsequently
been lied to by a prophet who told the man that
an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright
to eat and drink there.
1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian
soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000
remaining Syrians.
2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and
consumes fifty men.
2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and
killed, presumably according to the will of God,
for having jeered at a man of God.
2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his
descendants forever with leprosy.
2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and
strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks
the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria.
2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The
next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we
may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram.
2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed.
2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is
trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that
only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands
remain.
2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded,
then sends the heads to their father.
2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.
2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he
slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he
had wiped them out, according to the word of the
Lord ...."
2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the
Baal worshippers.
2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.
2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then
10,000 Edomites.
2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in
the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with
leprosy for not having removed the "high places."
2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women
who were pregnant.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.
1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people
that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with
harrows of iron, and with axes."
2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.
2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers.
PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your
little ones against the stones.
PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains
hands for war and fingers for battle.
IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust
through; all who are caught will fall by the
sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces
before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished."
IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young
men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the
fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare
children."
IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for
the iniquity of their fathers."
IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of
the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to
become drunk on their own blood as with wine.
JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they
shall not be lamented; neither shall they be
buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face
of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall
be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the
beasts of the earth."
LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off
than those who die of famine; racked with
hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ...
pitiful women have cooked their own children,
who became their food ..."
EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the
sword, famine and plague. He that is far away
will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall
by the sword, and he that survives and is spared
will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon
them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the
people lie slain among their idols around their
altars, on every high hill and on all the
mountaintops, under every spreading tree and
every leafy oak ...."
EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men
outright, young men and maidens, little children
and women ...."
EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the
Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves
through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of
their first-born children.
EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both
the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall
go against all flesh.
EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and
daughters of those who were whores.
EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and
tear your breasts."
HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their
infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their
women with child shall be ripped up."
MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their
flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh
of my people, and flay their skin from off them;
and they break their bones, and chop them in
pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the
caldron."
MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 ,
25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity
burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and
gnashing of teeth.
MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his
brother to death, and the father his child, ...
children shall rise up against their parents, and
cause them to be put to death."
MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man
against his father, a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a
man's enemies will be the members of his own
family."
MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of]
three cities who were not sufficiently impressed
with his great works.
AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though
not permanently).

....his followers continue his work,making daddy proud murdering millions in his name throughout the course of history

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by mujahid777(m): 10:39am On Dec 29, 2017
AlBaqir:
Wishing all our christian brethren a merry Christmas and happy new year in advance.
Have u seen how your "xtian brethrens" have been replying so far undecided

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Nobody: 10:45am On Dec 29, 2017
Teymanhenry:
if it is on Christians or Muslims that'll go to heaven..
what about people who existed long before Christianity and Islam
including parents of the founders and chief executive of those religions .....their parents where neither Christians nor Muslims...so virtually all parents of of Abrahamic religion will be roasted in god furnace what a vindictive concept

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Nobody: 10:49am On Dec 29, 2017
remove religion from the world and see human race progress .........imagine the number of religion inspired suicide bombing and causalities...this will be non existing

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Axiwaju(m): 10:56am On Dec 29, 2017
Alikote:
remove religion from the world and see human race progress .........imagine the number of religion inspired suicide bombing and causalities...this will be non existing
some religions are more violent than the othes.
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Axiwaju(m): 11:00am On Dec 29, 2017
[quote author=mujahid777 post=63707888] Sharap dere!

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EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people. EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly. EX 32:27 every man his companion, and every man his neighbor. EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men. LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword." LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends. LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is con Be Sincere! Which Religion Has More Terorist?
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Rashduct4luv(m): 11:02am On Dec 29, 2017
If you think Christians will acknowledge you and accept you from their heart for joining them in their celebration, I think you have failed as you can see from some of the comments.
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Shia sect has been romancing the Christians as there aqeedah is close to theirs than that of the mainstream Muslims.
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Shi'a doesn't represent Islam. They may dress like us but they are not us.
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Muslims do not celebrate or greet for idolatry. No Christmas/new year celebration or greetings.

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by hgnbello(m): 11:02am On Dec 29, 2017
I disagre with this fatwa

dis is d probelm with muslim brothers.. u dnt jst disagree and stat making unnecessary argument.. u av read it..go out nd do research... b4 u dis agree..
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Nobody: 11:03am On Dec 29, 2017
Axiwaju:

some religions are more violent than the othes.
they all have violent background.....some have evolve to be more tolerant because of enlightenment from science and promoters Europeans...other are stuck in the stone age from crude concepts ,wishful thinking ,lust and absolute insanity....(bokoharam)

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Heavance(m): 11:08am On Dec 29, 2017
osuofia2:
Greet them with bombs and by slicing their throats cause they are infidels they don't deserve to live.... Islam is light nd mohamaaaaed is his last prophet....

Let's assume we are educated, and leave religion aside.
If anyone quotes that rubbish you left up there, and is preaching to you to join his religion, will you accept?
You see killing of humans as a good thing, or you are helping God right?
How then are such people that take it that way different from all these cultist around?

Your way of life should prove Islam is light, but with that motivation to kill people because they are not Muslims, then I am sorry, there is no light at all there, not even a flash light lasan.
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by mujahid777(m): 11:20am On Dec 29, 2017
[quote author=Axiwaju post=63708600][/quote]
And this is all you have to say.Anyways,your religion has produced far more than any other;

Listed are only events that solely occurred on command of church authorities
or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List incomplete)
Ancient Pagans
As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were
destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the
Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous
as "temple destroyer." [DA468]
Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because
they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian
teachings..."
In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand
of Christian authorities. [DA466]
The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces
with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister
named Peter, in a church, in 415.
[DO19-25]
Mission
Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to
Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]
Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes:
between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near
Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]
Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]
15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights
of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30]
16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland,
where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any
knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women,
children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain
Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes
of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie,
should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by
eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate
terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers,
brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde".
Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99, 225]
Crusades (1095-1291)
First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41]
Semlin/Hungary 6/24/96 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/96
thousands. [WW23]
9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish), thousands respectively.
[WW25-27]
Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number
of slain unknown) [WW30]
after 6/3/98 Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000
slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. [WW32-35]
Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's]
tents—save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to
Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60]
Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the
subsequent famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by
the Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36]
Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim,
men, women, children). [WW37-40]
(In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a
carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and
after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's
tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude"wink
The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon
the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of
human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It
was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in
all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more
dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from
head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is
reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels
perished." [TG79]
Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in
all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One
million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41]
Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of
Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]
Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims
unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]
Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million
victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224]
Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.
Heretics
Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six
followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26]
Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth
control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated
in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E.
Numerous thousands of victims. [NC]
Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29]
The Albigensians...viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not
accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-nazi
mass murderer) in 1209. Bezirs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the
inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over
their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181]
Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed. [WW181]
subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the
population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated.
[WW183]
After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and
destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324.
[WW183]
Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy alone), [WW183]
Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many
others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live
today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least
hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding
victims in the New World).
Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220
burnings. [DO28]
John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the
stake in 1415. [LI475-522]
University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna. [DO59]
Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for seven
years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (Rome) on
2/17/1600.
Witches
from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several
thousand.
in the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several
hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV]
incomplete list of documented cases:
The Burning of Witches - A Chronicle of the Burning Times
Religious Wars
15th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30]
1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate England and all English
as slaves of Church (fortunately had not power to go into action). [DO31]
1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels in
(then Spanish) Netherlands. Thousands were actually slain. [DO31]
1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius
V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee. [DO31]
17th century: Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader. After
murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, "cutting off his head, his
hands, and his genitals... and then dumped him into the river [...but] then,
deciding that it was not worthy of being food for the fish, they hauled it out
again [... and] dragged what was left ... to the gallows of Montfaulcon, 'to be
meat and carrion for maggots and crows'." [SH191]
17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000
Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded,"
reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their
lifeless mothers." [SH191]
17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population
decimated, mostly in Germany. [DO31-32]
to be continued...

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by uvalued(m): 11:37am On Dec 29, 2017
So is the fatwa open ended
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by OgologoDimkpa: 11:42am On Dec 29, 2017
mujahid777:

Sharap dere!


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EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows
down Amalek and his people.
EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave
may be beaten to death with no punishment for
the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die
too quickly.
EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side,
and go in and out from gate to gate throughout
the camp, and slay every man his brother, and
every man his companion, and every man his
neighbor.
EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites slay 3000 men.
LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if
they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before
your sword."
LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you,
which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a
punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the
flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers
and friends.
LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An
example is given in JG 11:30-39 )
NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great
plague.
NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven
days because she and Aaron had spoken against
Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had
gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at
the Lord's command.
NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open
and swallow up the men and their households
(including wives and children) because the men
had been rebellious.
NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250
men.
NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700
people.
NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the
Canaanites.
NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill
many Israelites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites
slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until
there was not one survivor left ...."
NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses,
take all the heads of the people, and hang them
up before the Lord against the sun ...."
NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the
tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of
Israel, and the woman through her belly."
NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the
Lord.
NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women
and children.
NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's
command, orders the Israelites to kill all the
Midianite male children and "... every woman who
has known man ...." (Note: How would it be
determined which women had known men? One
can only speculate.)
NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the
Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to
be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men,
women, and children of Og.
DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to
"utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those
whom he gives them for defeat.
DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your
hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for
the women, the children, the livestock and
everything else in the city, you may take these as
plunder for yourselves."
DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is
giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive
anything that breathes."
DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the
Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women"
from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.
If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no
delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.
DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the
flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your
God has given you."
JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing
for all the bloody endeavors to follow.
JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and
children--with the edge of the sword.
JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are
stoned to death because Achan had taken a
taboo thing.
JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men
and women, so that there were none who
escaped.
JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua
utterly destroys the Gibeonites.
JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the people of Makkedah.
JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly
destroys the Libnahites.
JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the people of Lachish.
JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Eglonites.
JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Hebronites.
JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua
utterly destroys the Debirites.
JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua
defeated the whole land ...; he left none
remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the
Lord God of Israel commanded."
JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung.
(Exceedingly cruel.)
JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand
of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was
none left that breathed ...."
JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden
their hearts that they should come against Israel
in battle, in order that they should be utterly
destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be
exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses."
JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim.
JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats
10,000 Canaanites at Bezek.
JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues
Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his
thumbs and big toes.
JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites
Jerusalem.
JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and
Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who
inhabited Zephath.
JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites.
JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600
Philistines with an oxgoad.
JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it
through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the
ground.
JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites,
slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring
the heads back to Gideon.
JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of
Penuel.
JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers.
JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people
in the city.
JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his
head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to
his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me,
so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his
servant ran him through, and he died."
JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved
daughter, his only child, according to a vow he
has made with the Lord.
JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a
man and causes him to slay thirty men.
JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the
jawbone of an ass.
JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's
eyes.
JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord,
pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and
causes his own death and that of 3000 other men
and women.
JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and
unsuspecting people of Laish.
JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men
beat on the door of an old man's house
demanding that he turn over to them a male
house guest. Instead, the old man offers his
virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or
wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and
his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish
them and do with them what seems good to you;
but against this man do not do so vile a thing."
The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The
man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and
sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of
Israel.
JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of
valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and
beasts and all that they found," and set their
towns on fire.
JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of
Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and;
also the women and little ones.... every male and
every woman that has lain with a male you shall
utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred
young virgins whom they bring back for their own
use.
1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot
soldiers.
1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with
tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for
having stolen the Ark.
1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for
looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early
Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's
abode.)
1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the
Philistines.
1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his
men cut down the Ammonites.
1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the
Philistines.
1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites.
1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now
go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that
they have; do not spare them, but kill both man
and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep,
camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed
all the people with the edge of the sword."
1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before
the Lord ...."
1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry:
"Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten
thousands."
1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman
alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and
infants were included in the slaughter.)
1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites.
2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel.
2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner.
2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth,
behead him, and take his head to David.
2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed,
their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies
hanged by the pool at Hebron.
2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded
him, and smote the Philistines ...."
2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having
exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren
throughout her life.
2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's
murderous conquests.)
2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the
horses.
2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians.
2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David
wherever he went."
2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the
valley of salt and made the rest slaves.
2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians.
2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he
can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba.
2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead
for the sin that David has committed.
2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes
her, then hates her.
2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered.
2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the
battle in the forest of Ephraim.
2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom.
2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and
leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the
highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him,
stopped."
2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel
that kills 70,000 men.
1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered.
1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered.
1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered.
1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating
bread and drinking water in a place where the
Lord had previously told him not to. This is in
spite of the fact that the man had subsequently
been lied to by a prophet who told the man that
an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright
to eat and drink there.
1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian
soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000
remaining Syrians.
2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and
consumes fifty men.
2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and
killed, presumably according to the will of God,
for having jeered at a man of God.
2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his
descendants forever with leprosy.
2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and
strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks
the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria.
2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The
next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we
may eat him,' but she had hidden him."
2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram.
2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed.
2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is
trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that
only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands
remain.
2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded,
then sends the heads to their father.
2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed.
2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he
slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he
had wiped them out, according to the word of the
Lord ...."
2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the
Baal worshippers.
2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family.
2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then
10,000 Edomites.
2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in
the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with
leprosy for not having removed the "high places."
2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women
who were pregnant.
2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men.
1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people
that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with
harrows of iron, and with axes."
2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered.
2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers.
PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your
little ones against the stones.
PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains
hands for war and fingers for battle.
IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust
through; all who are caught will fall by the
sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces
before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished."
IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young
men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the
fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare
children."
IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for
the iniquity of their fathers."
IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of
the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to
become drunk on their own blood as with wine.
JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they
shall not be lamented; neither shall they be
buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face
of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the
sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall
be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the
beasts of the earth."
LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off
than those who die of famine; racked with
hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ...
pitiful women have cooked their own children,
who became their food ..."
EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the
sword, famine and plague. He that is far away
will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall
by the sword, and he that survives and is spared
will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon
them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the
people lie slain among their idols around their
altars, on every high hill and on all the
mountaintops, under every spreading tree and
every leafy oak ...."
EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men
outright, young men and maidens, little children
and women ...."
EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the
Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves
through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of
their first-born children.
EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both
the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall
go against all flesh.
EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and
daughters of those who were whores.
EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and
tear your breasts."
HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their
infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their
women with child shall be ripped up."
MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their
flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh
of my people, and flay their skin from off them;
and they break their bones, and chop them in
pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the
caldron."
MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 ,
25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity
burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and
gnashing of teeth.
MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his
brother to death, and the father his child, ...
children shall rise up against their parents, and
cause them to be put to death."
MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man
against his father, a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a
man's enemies will be the members of his own
family."
MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of]
three cities who were not sufficiently impressed
with his great works.
AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man (though
not permanently).

....his followers continue his work,making daddy proud murdering millions in his name throughout the course of history


RUBBISH! Try harder! :-
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Shafiiimran99: 11:52am On Dec 29, 2017
Error. How can congratulate non muslims on their festive day when Allah says: it has been revealed to that when you see the ayah of Allah been mocked at and denied stay not with them.

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Shafiiimran99: 11:54am On Dec 29, 2017
slyfox5555:
Nice post and very insightful. I do have a question though - what happens with if this is the case in Islamic countries, does the same apply?
Bad post
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by dragnet: 11:58am On Dec 29, 2017
You may as well go and congratulate those worshipping Amadioha and Ogun too... Rubbish!

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by dragnet: 12:10pm On Dec 29, 2017
Allaah says in Maeda vs 2

Help you one another in Al-Birr and At-Taqwa (virtue, righteousness and piety); but do not help one another in sin and transgression. And fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Severe in punishment."

and congratulating them implies that you are pleased with what they're doing.

would someone be dancing around your street with an inscription which says your mother is a LovePeddler and you'll go and give such person a handshake? I believe the least you'll do is to ignore the person.

Muslims are enjoined to live in peace with tribes, neighbors, kinsmen or countrymen of other faith but that doesn't mean you shouldn't uphold the tenets of Islam at all times.

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Dindondin(m): 12:32pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
Sheikh Abdullah bin bayyah is a highly reverred scholar and i agree with most things but I disagree with him slightly here.

This line:


I believe it is best to greet with generic greetings rather than saying 'merry christmas' because the whole concept (given its origin/significance) should not be endorsed by the muslim at all.

Through the Quran, we see how Allah addresses people who ascribe sons or daughters to Him.

It does not mean, you should not be kind and generous etc but I think the words of courtesy matter and I know there are some scholars who hold this view as well.

And certainly Allah knows best.



Mr tbaba1234, I v two questions for you. Pls answer honestly.

1. Can you allow your son to marry a Christian lady?

2. Can you allow your daughter to marry a Christian man?

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by budosky(m): 12:56pm On Dec 29, 2017
AlBaqir:
.



This Rafidi boy again. Go and learn about the true and mainstream Islam and stop copy-pasting baseless fatwahs that support your Christianity-Like religion called Shia. The question you should ask yourself is, was prophet Muhammad who was sent to the Muslim Ummah a Shia or was he the one that created the Rafidi sect?.. Then if the answer is no, then do you think Allah will accept your worship as a Shia?

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by osuofia2(m): 1:28pm On Dec 29, 2017
Heavance:

Let's assume we are educated, and leave religion aside.
If anyone quotes that rubbish you left up there, and is preaching to you to join his religion, will you accept?
You see killing of humans as a good thing, or you are helping God right?
How then are such people that take it that way different from all these cultist around?

Your way of life should prove Islam is light, but with that motivation to kill people because they are not Muslims, then I am sorry, there is no light at all there, not even a flash light lasan.
It seems you didn't get the sarcasm....

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by AlBaqir(m): 2:21pm On Dec 29, 2017
budosky:


This Rafidi boy again. Go and learn about the true and mainstream Islam and stop copy-pasting baseless fatwahs that support your Christianity-Like religion called Shia.

# Oh! That's a bit strange. You mean that Sunni Sheik's fatwa, and the fatwa of a well recognised Sunni institution in Al-Ahzar about Xmas is synonymous to "their Christian-Like religion called Sunni"? Hmmm I see.

* Let me open your eyes a bit perhaps you will see. In your Sunni Aqeedah, you are of the opinion with certain "sahih" ahadith that Prophet allegedly followed the Jews in fasting on the day of Ashura when he saw and met them doing that in the memory of Nabi Musa. Prophet allegedly did not only fasted but also allegedly enjoined all the Muslims to fast on that day. Prophet was allegedly reminded by his companions that, "...but we will be following the Jews!". And he allegedly adjust the fasting to be 9th and 10th of Ashura to be a bit different from the Jews.

* While I believed you follow that practice yearly, do you need to be reminded that practice is Jewish?! Why making meat of one, and fish of the other?!

* Even if you will not agree, settle your brain and read carefully the submission of your Sunni sheiks that see no problem in congratulating Non-muslims on their festive days. The least you could do is to counter, point by point, the submission of that Sunni sheik. Revealing your anger over a " Rafidi boy" won't cure the diseases your heart is infested with. May Allah grant you cure because you seriously need one.


budosky:

The question you should ask yourself is, was prophet Muhammad who was sent to the Muslim Ummah a Shia or was he the one that created the Rafidi sect?.. Then if the answer is no, then do you think Allah will accept your worship as a Shia?

So much ignorance, fanaticism and ill-mannered attitude.

Anyway, your Sunni Ulama document this Mutawattir Hadith (I doubt you know what that means). Here's a glimpse of it:


# Imam Ahmad gives similar report:

Ibrāhīm b. Sharīk – ‘Uqbah b. Mukram al-Ḍabī – Yūnus b.
Bukayr – alSawār b. Muṣ’ab – Abū al-Jahhāf – Abū
Mukram ‘Uqbah – Muḥammad b. ‘Amr – Fāṭimah al-Kubrā
– Umm Salamah:

The Prophet, peace be upon him, was with me on my night
when Fāṭimah and ‘Alī visited him. So, the Messenger of
Allāh, peace be upon him, said, “O ‘Alī, be happy, because
you and your companions and your Shī’ah will be in
Paradise
"

Source: Abū ‘Abd Allāh Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal, Kitāb Faḍāil al-
Ṣaḥābah (Jeddah: Dār al-‘Ilm li al-Ṭabā’ah wa al-Nashr; 1st
edition, 1403 H) [annotator: Waṣiyyullāh b. Muḥammad
‘Abbās], vol. 2, p. 654, # 1115

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by mohammad11: 4:51pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
Sheikh Abdullah bin bayyah is a highly reverred scholar and i agree with most things but I disagree with him slightly here.

This line:


I believe it is best to greet with generic greetings rather than saying 'merry christmas' because the whole concept (given its origin/significance) should not be endorsed by the muslim at all.

Through the Quran, we see how Allah addresses people who ascribe sons or daughters to Him.

It does not mean, you should not be kind and generous etc but I think the words of courtesy matter and I know there are some scholars who hold this view as well.

And certainly Allah knows best.




on point, you actually picpoint what i really disagree on too

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Optionalx: 5:02pm On Dec 29, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
If you think Christians will acknowledge you and accept you from their heart for joining them in their celebration, I think you have failed as you can see from some of the comments.
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Shia sect has been romancing the Christians as there aqeedah is close to theirs than that of the mainstream Muslims.
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Shi'a doesn't represent Islam. They may dress like us but they are not us.
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Muslims do not celebrate or greet for idolatry. No Christmas/new year celebration or greetings.
Dey decieve yourself. Some Muslim even dey sell Christmas tree and decorations for Balogun markat

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Rashduct4luv(m): 6:22pm On Dec 29, 2017
Optionalx:

Dey decieve yourself. Some Muslim even dey sell Christmas tree and decorations for Balogun markat

Muslim by name!
.
Who is a Muslim?

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Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Caseless: 7:01pm On Dec 29, 2017
tbaba1234:
Sheikh Abdullah bin bayyah is a highly reverred scholar and i agree with most things but I disagree with him slightly here.

This line:


I believe it is best to greet with generic greetings rather than saying 'merry christmas' because the whole concept (given its origin/significance) should not be endorsed by the muslim at all.

Through the Quran, we see how Allah addresses people who ascribe sons or daughters to Him.

It does not mean, you should not be kind and generous etc but I think the words of courtesy matter and I know there are some scholars who hold this view as well.

And certainly Allah knows best.




Islam appeals to human reasoning and, it's logical.

The najran Christians who visited the prophet of mercy were hosted in the masjid, and when it was time for their worship, prophet permitted them to do their worship in the masjid. Did this make them Muslims without taking the shahadda?

In face of danger, say a knife is put to your neck by people of other religion in a crisis, Islam permits you to deny your religion until you get to safety. Isn't this telling us that everything works with ni'yat(intention)?

"Merry" is an English word or adjective describing the merriment associated with Christmas and equivalent events in order religion, "Christ" and "mas" are the other formulation to give Christmas. My question is, how does saying this makes one a Christian?

Islam teaches us to respect item of worship( by this I mean, god's ,books, symbol, their place of worship, etc) of non-Muslims, even in war. Because if you desecrate their own, they'll do that to your own which is authentic ; insult their gods and they'll insult the almighty Allah. You see the logic?


You see why Quran says: lakum di'nukum wal'yadin(practice that which is yours and let me practice mine). This is not in anyway an endorsement of their polytheism, but a demonstration of respect . It goes further to say "no compulsion in religion". This tells you also that Islam accept diversity and societal divergence.

Does respecting as directed by our region make one a Christian?


I need enough reason why the salutation is not allowed.
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Caseless: 7:03pm On Dec 29, 2017
Optionalx:

Dey decieve yourself. Some Muslim even dey sell Christmas tree and decorations for Balogun markat
I don see Muslim father Christmas de observe prayers(salat) sef.
Re: Fatwa On Muslims Congratulating Non-muslims On Their Holidays by Caseless: 7:07pm On Dec 29, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


Muslim by name!
.
Who is a Muslim?
brother, it's not our place to judge others by their actions. They may be closer to Allah with few things they do than the much you do. A Muslim is a Muslim.

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