Democracy would continue to be under threat in the country as long as the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) is under the leadership of its incumbent chairman,Prof. Maurice Iwu, the National President, Nigeria Bar Association (NBA),Chief Oluwarotimi Akeredolu (SAN) said in Ilorin at the weekend.

Link: http://allafrica.com/stories/200812151148.html

the grace of God.

never thought we had democracy for once!

The issue of electoral malpractice in Nigeria is more fundamental than who the INEC chairman is.

Under the current circumstances and the psyche of the Nation, even Kofi Anan cant conduct a credible election in Nigeria.

Iwu?

Gosh Olaolufred, U've got strong views on Prof. Iwu.

@Africason
With due respect, I think you re an alarmist. Was there no electoral fraud before Iwu became INEC chairman? or was Iwu electoral body's chairman in 1979, 1983, 2003 and 2007? I think criminalizing Iwu is like treating HIV/AIDS with panadol. But it is a typical Nigeria way of pining the blame on someone's else except ourselves. Unfortunately some nairalders are product of this sick system.

From available facts, there was no single election in Nigeria recorded history that is fraud free, the difference is only in degree. Right from 1959 elections have been rigged in this country irrespective of who is the chairman of the electoral body.

By the way, does that means that AC, ANPP and other parties did not rig election in their domain in 2007? I voted in Lagos state and I can testify that AC rigged election massively, electorate were given money while we were still on the queue or is it not the same thugs or area boy or alimanjiri that rigged for party A, not the one rigging for party B? The difference is which side of the divide a thug is at a particular point in time. This is a fact, every party rigs election in Nigeria, even the party's flag bearer cannot stop them, it is part and parcel of Nigeria electoral poiltics. Hence it is a matter of which party can outdo the other at any point in time.

Considering Nigeria political culture and terrain, PDP would still have won 2007 election, and I think they are very foolish to have engaged in massive rigging the way they did. Giving the circumstances of the 2007 general election no other party prepared enough to win the general election other than PDP, to have believed AC or ANPP will win would ve been living in a dream land. As at that material time Atiku was too much engaged by OBJ govt to ensure that should the court clear him, he would not have the necessary preparation for wining the general election. Or is it Buhari who can not boast acceptability in all geopolitical zones of the country that would ve won that election?

In fact, except for the anti-obasanjo sentiment Atiku and Buhari did not do enough to win the presidency. But trust Nigeria, they don't treat the sickness they only treat symptons, that's why anybody could have believed that Iwu is a threat to our democracy. Perhaps, Iwu is also responsible for Nigeria not having electricity and bad roads and dilapidated health centres in Nigeria. Nigeria will only move forward the day we examine ourselves as a nation and stop behaving like a curse people.

What democracy are we talking about?

judging from the last election 07' that was conducted under the leadership of maurice iwu and his uterrance about the last US election(obama). i think iwu is a threat to this nacsent democracy and needs to go for psycological evaluation.

SegzyJoe:

@Africason
With due respect, I think you re an alarmist. Was there no electoral fraud before Iwu became INEC chairman? or was Iwu electoral body's chairman in 1979, 1983, 2003 and 2007? I think criminalizing Iwu is like treating HIV/AIDS with panadol. But it is a typical Nigeria way of pining the blame on someone's else except ourselves. Unfortunately some nairalders are product of this sick system.

From available facts, there was no single election in Nigeria recorded history that is fraud free, the difference is only in degree. Right from 1959 elections have been rigged in this country irrespective of who is the chairman of the electoral body.

By the way, does that means that AC, ANPP and other parties did not rig election in their domain in 2007? I voted in Lagos state and I can testify that AC rigged election massively, electorate were given money while we were still on the queue or is it not the same thugs or area boy or alimanjiri that rigged for party A, not the one rigging for party B? The difference is which side of the divide a thug is at a particular point in time. This is a fact, every party rigs election in Nigeria, even the party's flag bearer cannot stop them, it is part and parcel of Nigeria electoral poiltics. Hence it is a matter of which party can outdo the other at any point in time.

Considering Nigeria political culture and terrain, PDP would still have won 2007 election, and I think they are very foolish to have engaged in massive rigging the way they did. Giving the circumstances of the 2007 general election no other party prepared enough to win the general election other than PDP, to have believed AC or ANPP will win would ve been living in a dream land. As at that material time Atiku was too much engaged by OBJ govt to ensure that should the court clear him, he would not have the necessary preparation for wining the general election. Or is it Buhari who can not boast acceptability in all geopolitical zones of the country that would ve won that election?

In fact, except for the anti-obasanjo sentiment Atiku and Buhari did not do enough to win the presidency. But trust Nigeria, they don't treat the sickness they only treat symptons, that's why anybody could have believed that Iwu is a threat to our democracy. Perhaps, Iwu is also responsible for Nigeria not having electricity and bad roads and dilapidated health centres in Nigeria. Nigeria will only move forward the day we examine ourselves as a nation and stop behaving like a curse people.

Sorry SegzyJoe, am no alarmist but rather a realist who just scan news sites and report only the interesting and controversial ones as a hobby.

SegzyJoe:

@Africason
With due respect, I think you re an alarmist. Was there no electoral fraud before Iwu became INEC chairman? or was Iwu electoral body's chairman in 1979, 1983, 2003 and 2007? I think criminalizing Iwu is like treating HIV/AIDS with panadol. But it is a typical Nigeria way of pining the blame on someone's else except ourselves. Unfortunately some nairalders are product of this sick system.

From available facts, there was no single election in Nigeria recorded history that is fraud free, the difference is only in degree. Right from 1959 elections have been rigged in this country irrespective of who is the chairman of the electoral body.

By the way, does that means that AC, ANPP and other parties did not rig election in their domain in 2007? I voted in Lagos state and I can testify that AC rigged election massively, electorate were given money while we were still on the queue or is it not the same thugs or area boy or alimanjiri that rigged for party A, not the one rigging for party B? The difference is which side of the divide a thug is at a particular point in time. This is a fact, every party rigs election in Nigeria, even the party's flag bearer cannot stop them, it is part and parcel of Nigeria electoral poiltics. Hence it is a matter of which party can outdo the other at any point in time.

Considering Nigeria political culture and terrain, PDP would still have won 2007 election, and I think they are very foolish to have engaged in massive rigging the way they did. Giving the circumstances of the 2007 general election no other party prepared enough to win the general election other than PDP, to have believed AC or ANPP will win would ve been living in a dream land. As at that material time Atiku was too much engaged by OBJ govt to ensure that should the court clear him, he would not have the necessary preparation for wining the general election. Or is it Buhari who can not boast acceptability in all geopolitical zones of the country that would ve won that election?

In fact, except for the anti-obasanjo sentiment Atiku and Buhari did not do enough to win the presidency. But trust Nigeria, they don't treat the sickness they only treat symptons, that's why anybody could have believed that Iwu is a threat to our democracy. Perhaps, Iwu is also responsible for Nigeria not having electricity and bad roads and dilapidated health centres in Nigeria. Nigeria will only move forward the day we examine ourselves as a nation and stop behaving like a curse people.

Thanks for educating those fools that thnk Iwu is the problem.

Prof. Iwu is just one of the threats.
the past administration used many weapons of mass destructions in form of learned and wise/intelligent men.
to obj and his supporters, specialists in different fields were used eg prof iwu for inec, ribadu for efcc, el rufai for fct, bode george for npa and kayode for communication.
they were all good but for nigeria to move forward, obj and his men shld give room to other people for the continuation of this trial and error formular.
removing prof iwu alone will not do the magic rather removing obj from anything that has to do with leadership in nigeria and bringing in fresh ideas.
fresh ideas include the removal of yar adua and organising a free and fair election that will simply represent the people's mandates.

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OBJ is no longer the President, Yar'adua has been anything but an OBJ puppet.

Yet Chidicris still wants to remove OBJ from power 18months after he left

mikeansy,
am sorry, i always take u beyond ur reaches but unfortunate there is nothing i can do about that. i will advise u to go back to school as we cannot sail on the same level.
well, i have decided to be a little kind with u by a way of a brief lecture.
since 1999, nigeria has been under the leadership of a political party known as PDP - peoples democratic party. as a political party, they have board of trustees and this board is like the excutive arm of the party with the responsibility of making decissions for the party. on the head of these board of trustees, is a chairman of the board. when obj failed in his third term, he quickly amended the constitution of pdp on the issue of the chairman board of trustees. the only person qualified to be the chairman of this board must be a former president who is a member of the party and with this, obj is the only nigerian with this qualifications.
most pdp members who left the party were not comfortable with the idea of one person being qualified to be the chairman of the bot in a democratic setting.
my dear mikeansy, i hope with these few points of mine, i have been able to convience and not confuss you that obj did not only impose yar adua on nigeria and nigerians, he equally made himself a criminal chairman of pdp bot and thereby maintain his inordinate ambition to die in power.
pls to avoid this stress of lecturing u free of charge next time, u can try the children's department of this forum.
have a nice day.
i hope you are well informed that obj is still arround and actively involved in the criminal affairs of this country. do not be decieved, he may be behind the odeals of ribadu because tafa balogun and atiku were once his close pals but he is such a dirty minded criminal.

really thank you for the lecture as I am hearing these for the first time

And would you also kindly enunciate how this is related to Iwu being a threat to democracy?


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well, my advise is that you continue your countdown bcs from all indications, you make more sense when you are not talking than when you are talking.

chidichris:

Prof. Iwu is just one of the threats.
the past administration used many weapons of mass destructions in form of learned and wise/intelligent men.
to obj and his supporters, specialists in different fields were used eg prof iwu for inec, ribadu for efcc, el rufai for fct, bode george for npa and kayode for communication.
they were all good but for nigeria to move forward, obj and his men shld give room to other people for the continuation of this trial and error formular.
removing prof iwu alone will not do the magic rather removing obj from anything that has to do with leadership in nigeria and bringing in fresh ideas.
fresh ideas include the removal of yar adua and organising a free and fair election that will simply represent the people's mandates.

Iwu paid Area Boys? Iwu gave salt to village women? Iwu snatched ballot boxes? Iwu brought cultism into politics? Iwu gave guns to many youths to maim and kill people on election days? Iwu bought my vote with 200 naira?

You folks are not even serious! Truth shall all man free in Nigeria.

chidichris:

mikeansy,
am sorry, i always take u beyond ur reaches but unfortunate there is nothing i can do about that. i will advise u to go back to school [/b]as we cannot sail on the same level.
well, i have decided to be a little kind with u by a way of a brief lecture.
since 1999, nigeria has been under the leadership of a political party known as PDP - peoples democratic party. as a political party, they have board of trustees and this board is like the [b]excutive arm of the party with the responsibility of making decissions for the party. on the head of these board of trustees, is a chairman of the board. when obj failed in his third term, he quickly amended the constitution of pdp on the issue of the chairman board of trustees. the only person qualified to be the chairman of this board must be a former president who is a member of the party and with this, obj is the only nigerian with this qualifications.
most pdp members who left the party were not comfortable with the idea of one person being qualified to be the chairman of the bot in a democratic setting.
my dear mikeansy, i hope with these few points of mine, i have been able to convience and not confuss you that obj did not only impose yar adua on nigeria and nigerians, he equally made himself a criminal chairman of pdp bot and thereby maintain his inordinate ambition to die in power.
please to avoid this stress of lecturing u free of charge next time, u can try the children's department of this forum.
have a nice day.
i hope you are well informed that obj is still arround and actively involved in the criminal affairs of this country. do not be decieved, he may be behind the odeals of ribadu because tafa balogun and atiku were once his close pals but he is such a dirty minded criminal.

Bad writing skill and he's a professor