plaetton:


Not true.
The federal government offered to fund the clinical trials.

The government did the right thing. Public health imperatives should always triumph over cheap irrational sentiments and blackmail.

This is the problem with Nigeria. We wax sentimental when we should be rational, and then we stand aloof when we rightly should be sentimental.

Fourwinds:
so someone with cronic HIV doesn't not need a trial drug rite. by d way if dies without drugs administered, what is d gain. I don't see any sentiment here rather Africans are just too wicked for my liking. dat is y we are under- develop. Jealousy

plaetton:

This is the example of misplaced sentiments, irrationality and blackmail.

If Abalakas formulations pass through clinical trials, who would be more wealthy and famous than he?

My qyestion to you, why do you Nigerians prefer shortcuts and unable to measure up to the minimum thresholds of standard ethical professional practice?

Adewumi2888:


read my prior post, he said they try to bribe him to announced d breakthrough in USA, dats why it was banned

onegig:
Another Nigerian Lawyer ruling on technicalities and not content.

Yeah. Nafadac may not have the right tools to test the veracity of the drug but that does not also make his claims real. We just like throwing caution to the wind and not reading between the lines.

When did it become the job of a lawyer to tell whether a drug would work or not?

What independent clinical test has this drug undergone before he started administering it to humans?

If he is so sure of the efficacy, he should undergo the right processes for such. There are always rules and guidelines for drug tests before they are approved. Many variables like the efficacy, reaction, safety, clinical proof of how it works, active ingredients used and their chemical components need to be sorted out before a drug can be sold on the staples.

Not someone waking up and telling us he can cure HIV. Na black man own dey always dey different.

all4naija:
That court must be blinded by nationalism! There is no evidence to prove that vaccine can treat AIDS. It is a vaccine for goodness sake. The court doesn't even understand what that means in the first case. Smh...!

plaetton:

This is the example of misplaced sentiments, irrationality and blackmail.

If Abalakas formulations pass through clinical trials, who would be more wealthy and famous than he?

My qyestion to you, why do you Nigerians prefer shortcuts and unable to measure up to the minimum thresholds of standard ethical professional practice?

plaetton:


Bullshyte.

First, you conduct clinical trials before you announce any breakthroughs.
Not the reverse.
It's obvious that he is a tyoucal Nigerian fraudster trying to make a quick buck before his fraud is discovered.

Fourwinds:
so y did d government not approve d clinical trial rather dan ban it

plaetton:

Dr Abalaka refused to put his formulations through clinical trials. He was more interested in selling dosesfor 70k, something patently illegal.

thegoodjoehunt3:
This is why the government of Nigeria and NAFDAC could commit such atrocity.

He came out to ask for help and support. We are talking of someone who never took second in his life. He made distinction in all his courses. He believed his idea and needed support.

Our government should have confirmed his research with National pharmaceutical research institute and sponsored him to continue his research.

Instead of support, he was called a fraudster and your likes join in doing the same.

thegoodjoehunt3:

[b]
Curative vaccine against AIDS tested on humans
On January 29, Public Assistance - Hospitals of Marseille (AP-HM) announced the start of clinical trials of a therapeutic vaccine against HIV. Embodying the work of Dr. Erwann Loret, these tests will be supervised by Dr. Isabelle Ravaux, Service of Infectious Diseases, Hospital of the Conception (AP-HM). It retails for around Doctissimo hopes this vaccine cure "Tat Oyi"

http://healthadus..com/2013/02/curative-vaccine-against-aids-tested-on.html

Dr. Zhen Fang Fu, a rabies researcher in the University of Georgia College of Veterinary Medicine, will collaborate with Thomas Jefferson University Jefferson Medical College and several other institutions to test a curative vaccine for Rabies Virus, or RV, that could be administered late in the disease process.

http://naturalunseenhazards./2011/07/25/uga%E2%80%99s-college-of-veterinary-medicine-to-receive-1-4-million-to-study-interventional-vaccine-for-rabies-virus-north-carolina-reports-first-human-case-of-la-crosse-viral-encephalitis-this-year/

Research before talking like this.[/b]

Fourwinds:
so y did d government not approve d clinical trial rather dan ban it

all4naija:
Are you serious? This post is laughable. Please, explain to us all what you are talking about.

Thank you.

plaetton:


You guys just dont get it.
HE refused to put his stuff through trails. It is illegal and unethical as well as immoral to sell not tested medications to the public.
That is the issue here.

thegoodjoehunt3:
Trials on medical matters involves rigorous and thorough evidences presented by top medical professionals. This is a case that has taken years and involved lots of logical debate. From the evidences and testimonies, the judge made his ruling.

It is not just a lawyer taken a decision.

thegoodjoehunt3:
This is why the government of Nigeria and NAFDAC could commit such atrocity.

He came out to ask for help and support. We are talking of someone who never took second in his life. He made distinction in all his courses. He believed his idea and needed support.

Our government should have confirmed his research with National pharmaceutical research institute and sponsored him to continue his research.

Instead of support, he was called a fraudster and your likes join in doing the same.

thegoodjoehunt3:
National Pharmaceutical research institute worked with him and before government intervention. If he refused trials, why did he submit his samples to National research institute and to some hospitals for testing?

all4naija:
From which tests, in which lab and accepted by which scientific body? Stop telling us lies. That man has been disproved of his claim for long when he used concoction in the past now he is taking serum from human, treat it and re-inject it into the body. That is very funny! People like you are the ones making fool of that country by siding with somebody who cannot present detail evidence of his claim in the past and now the court is legalizing it to deceive the people. It is a appalling to say the least.

plaetton:

He did not.
They told him to stop selling the formulation until rigorous testing was done.
It's a very simple rule enacted long before he was born.

thegoodjoehunt3:
Read the first line of the post and you will see that your statement of vaccine cannot be used to treat is wrong. There are therapeutic/curative vaccines.

plaetton:

I remember very clearly. The government bent over backwards to accommodate this guy and help him confirm and develop his formulation.
He even refused to give samples for testing and evaluation, claiming that someone might steal his formula.
If truly he had a genuine formula, the government offered to help him patent it.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it us most likely a duck.
Same with fraud.

thegoodjoehunt3:
He disclosed that various agencies of federal government, including its hospitals, had purchased the vaccines from him and applied them on their own patients who had HIV and many were cured.
http://www.punchng.com/news/court-lifts-ban-on-abalakas-hiv-vaccines

Please, what does curative vaccine involve, is it not taken serums from infected bodies.

Read the articles and stop talking long story.

I showed you a doctor in Marcelle have been given money to do this research. What else do you want?

Support his research and not ban it. Haba.

all4naija:
You are lying! Where did I say that. I said that there is no evidence THE vaccine can treat AIDS and the court doesn't even know what vaccine is. Vaccine doesn't cure but only have preventive or therapeutic effect - that is completely correct. Therapeutic vaccine is just in infancy,dude. Stop posting things which aren't even real. Your link are nothing but unsubstantiated information to support this hideous vaccine without ethical clinical tests.

plaetton:


my friend, in medicine and drugs, the word cure is not used as lightly in such a manner.

To pronounce " cure" for HIV AIDS, a sampling of at least 1000 to 2000 patients of different gender and ages over a period of at least 3 yrs would be required.

Both Dr ABALAKA and the people who support him are pretending not to understand how the drug approval process works.

thegoodjoehunt3:
Can you show us one article from a government official saying he refused to bring his samples.

He has a patent on the treatment in 1999. Before you get a patent, you submit your formula. So his formula was already out there.

nagoma:


Abalaka is a surgeon and both him and the court should know that a judge has no place in deciding what is a scientific fact and what is not. The fight has just begun Abalaka is evading well known scientific methods of establishing new authentic knowledge.