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URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 9:31am On Jan 19, 2015
Hi! gurus in the house!
Pls i drive a toyota camry 2004 LE.
It came with 15" tyre/rim.
I want to increase it to 16" or 17".
My questions are:
Which is better interms of stability of the car or the best option generally.
Cos I heard the car vibrates on some tyres and also affects the shocks.
215/60/16 that's what I have in mind.
Also Pls explain what the figure means. 215/60/16 (height, width etc).
Primary reason of increase is d bad roads, nd that loud sound when passing speed bumps.
I am sorry o! So many questions at d same time.
Guys over to you!

lomomike
Marpol
Gazzuzz
Decotech
Mayor2013
Autosbay
Just to mention a few!
God bless u
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by DECOtech(m): 11:15am On Jan 19, 2015
drcynthia:

215/60/16 that's what I have in mind.


What tyre size do you currently have on your car?

Note that weak shocks are also a good reason for your car's nearness to the ground.
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by 9icetoo(m): 12:06pm On Jan 19, 2015
Be careful when going for larger tire sizes on the Camry. During tight turns, bigger tires will rub on plastic lining of the inner wheel well and damage it giving your beloved car an unsightly look. Secondly, bigger tires and rims will weigh heavier and will wear down your suspension components faster e.g shocks, ball joints, tie rods and lower arm bushings. With bigger tires and rims, it won't be long before you start hearing the famous "thunk thunk thunk" from your shocks and stabilizers. You can try 16 inch rims with 215/60/16 tires but this won't give you the increase in height you are looking for. 215 stands for the width of the tire in millimeters, sixty is the height from the ground to the lip of the rim and 16 is the rim size in inches. The Camry isn't a beauty so lifting it will make it look worse. Your current tire setting which i believe is 205/65/15 is okay with regards to stability and handling. The loud sound your hear might be your suspension telling you it due for a change. Please also check and make sure your tire pressure is as recommended by the car manufacturer. Over inflated tires can make you hear that loud thumping sound when you go over bumps. Also I hope you do slow down at bumps and at bad road sections too. It's not an SUV you know. If you want a car with a higher ground clearance, you are probably better off with an SUV.

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Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by DECOtech(m): 12:26pm On Jan 19, 2015
9icetoo:
Be careful when going for larger tire sizes on the Camry. During tight turns, bigger tires will rub on plastic lining of the inner wheel well and damage it giving your beloved car an unsightly look. Secondly, bigger tires and rims will weigh heavier and will wear down your suspension components faster e.g shocks, ball joints, tie rods and lower arm bushings. With bigger tires and rims, it won't be long before you start hearing the famous "thunk thunk thunk" from your shocks and stabilizers. You can try 16 inch rims with 215/60/16 tires but this won't give you the increase in height you are looking for. 215 stands for the width of the tire in millimeters, sixty is the height from the ground to the lip of the rim and 16 is the rim size in inches. The Camry isn't a beauty so lifting it will make it look worse. If you want a car with a higher ground clearance, you are probably better off with an SUV.

Well said.

I'm still waiting to know if its the factory recommended tyre size she using at the moment, before I can emphatically tell her to replace her shocks not with tokunbo but OEM.

The 04 camry has a good factory reset ground clearance. So, with its suspension components in good condition and the right tyre size, the OP would not experience issues associated with low ride height.
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 2:24pm On Jan 19, 2015
DECOtech:


What tyre size do you currently have on your car?

Note that weak shocks are also a good reason for your car's nearness to the ground.
Currently on 205/65/15
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 2:30pm On Jan 19, 2015
DECOtech:


Well said.

I'm still waiting to know if its the factory recommended tyre size she using at the moment, before I can emphatically tell her to replace her shocks not with tokunbo but OEM.

The 04 camry has a good factory reset ground clearance. So, with its suspension components in good condition and the right tyre size, the OP would not experience issues associated with low ride height.
Ok thanks!
Pls by OEM shocks u mean brand new abi? Cos the mechanic said belgium is better.
I do slow down at bumps.
Even the entrance to my house, no matter how slow I am, I hear d under scrape......
I am just confused.
My husband wants to MAk it 17" but i said he should wait let me get u guys opinion 1st
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 2:32pm On Jan 19, 2015
Can I get 215/75-85/15"?
Funny enof, 17" r
225/50/17 is not so high
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by DECOtech(m): 3:48pm On Jan 19, 2015
drcynthia:

Ok thanks!
Pls by OEM shocks u mean brand new abi? Cos the mechanic said belgium is better.
I do slow down at bumps.
Even the entrance to my house, no matter how slow I am, I hear d under scrape......
I am just confused.
My husband wants to MAk it 17" but i said he should wait let me get u guys opinion 1st

Send me a side pic of ur car via whatsapp or bbm. I can't keep advise you blindly. Find my contacts in my signature.
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by talk2odim: 4:00pm On Jan 19, 2015
drcynthia:

Ok thanks!
Pls by OEM shocks u mean brand new abi? Cos the mechanic said belgium is better.
I do slow down at bumps.
Even the entrance to my house, no matter how slow I am, I hear d under scrape......
I am just confused.
My husband wants to MAk it 17" but i said he should wait let me get u guys opinion 1st
By OEM he means Original Equipment Manufacturer. And before you take any action i would advice you observe whether it is the base of your car that scratches or the "silenser." Those model of camry are notorious for having the silenser low. I believe there is a rubber hanger that holds it up which does wear over time. Have this checked as a starting point. But if you are most certain it is a sound and not scratch then it is most likely ur shock absorbers. My "2 cents."
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 4:07pm On Jan 19, 2015
talk2odim:

By OEM he means Original Equipment Manufacturer. And before you take any action i would advice you observe whether it is the base of your car that scratches or the "silenser." Those model of camry are notorious for having the silenser low. I believe there is a rubber hanger that holds it up which does wear over time. Have this checked as a starting point. But if you are most certain it is a sound and not scratch then it is most likely ur shock absorbers. My "2 cents."
Tanks so much.
It's d base... D silencer rubbers r intact. I checkd myself at a petrols station pit.
So in conclusion i should change the shocks and not the rims?
But the shocks rnt giving me any signs of being bad.
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 4:10pm On Jan 19, 2015
DECOtech:


Send me a side pic of ur car via whatsapp or bbm. I can't keep advise you blindly. Find my contacts in my signature.
Which is ur Whatsapp no?
Added u on bbm
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 4:12pm On Jan 19, 2015
The pic

Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by DECOtech(m): 5:34pm On Jan 19, 2015
drcynthia:

Which is ur Whatsapp no?
Added u on bbm
the first number is my whatsapp line. Though we can go with bbm.

The pic is far. Pls get closer and give us a single dimensional pic.

If possible, a pic of a tyre in its wheel well wld do
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by 9icetoo(m): 5:43pm On Jan 19, 2015
If the entrance to your house has a significant slope, then your exhaust in the mid section of the car will most likely scrape on the ground when going in. The camry is a fairly long car so such things happen. there are two ways you can help the situation.
1. Lighten your load before climbing the slope
2. Climb the slope at an angle such that the tires diagonally opposite make contact with the slope almost at the same time.
As for the thump when you are climbing bumps, check your sway bars and its bushing as well.
I think there are 205/70/15 tires you can fit. That can give you some lift.
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by DECOtech(m): 6:00pm On Jan 19, 2015
9icetoo:

I think there are 205/70/15 tires you can fit. That can give you some lift.

That's "dangerful" oh.

If she's going the tyre route, Its better she goes with a wider rim and a lower tyre profile like a 205/50/16 to get about one inch or more higher off the ground.

Note that the higher you go, there's an increase in rollover risk of your car while driving.

Your shocks might not be bad but cld be weak thereby allowing ur car sag so low even when it doesn't have much load in it.

Pls drcynthia, If the roads you have to drive on are so bad that you need some more ride height, get yourself an SUV instead of doing something that will compromise your motoring safety and that of other road users.

Cheers.

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Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 8:02pm On Jan 19, 2015
DECOtech:


That's "dangerful" oh.

If she's going the tyre route, Its better she goes with a wider rim and a lower tyre profile like a 205/50/16 to get about one inch or more higher off the ground.

Note that the higher you go, there's an increase in rollover risk of your car while driving.

Your shocks might not be bad but cld be weak thereby allowing ur car sag so low even when it doesn't have much load in it.

Pls drcynthia, If the roads you have to drive on are so bad that you need some more ride height, get yourself an SUV instead of doing something that will compromise your motoring safety and that of other road users.

Cheers.
Yes o! SUV in view IJN.
Currently it's on 205/65/15 rim
Wld increase to 215/60/16 or 215/65/16
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 8:06pm On Jan 19, 2015
Decotech! Tanks o! How was ur day?
Sry u said 205/50/16
Why? Won't it be still low? What about 215/60/16 or 215/65/16
Since u said the "middle" no is the height .
Also 215 is wider than 205 since u said the "first no" is the width....
DECOtech:


That's "dangerful" oh.

If she's going the tyre route, Its better she goes with a wider rim and a lower tyre profile like a 205/50/16 to get about one inch or more higher off the ground.

Note that the higher you go, there's an increase in rollover risk of your car while driving.

Your shocks might not be bad but cld be weak thereby allowing ur car sag so low even when it doesn't have much load in it.

Pls drcynthia, If the roads you have to drive on are so bad that you need some more ride height, get yourself an SUV instead of doing something that will compromise your motoring safety and that of other road users.

Cheers.
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 8:08pm On Jan 19, 2015
Pic of tyre

Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by talk2odim: 8:21pm On Jan 19, 2015
drcynthia:

Yes o! SUV in view IJN.
Currently it's on 205/65/15 rim
Wld increase to 215/60/16 or 215/65/16
I had the same issue with my 2009 camry. My tyres were 215/60/16 and I increased to 225/60/16 after much consultation with "my ogas" here which solved my issues. I concure with Decotech and don't subscribe to the increase in tyre height cos it compromises a lot of factors. However if I must gain height I had rather increase the springs instead.....but I had still be careful on this route!
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by Bossforeva: 9:29pm On Jan 19, 2015
Like ur hubby needs the swag of larger wheels.. Sadly the swag works on the immediate past model and the next model of this car, but wn't look good on this. This car was meant for clergies and doctors like you that wanna be cool like that.
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 7:06am On Jan 20, 2015
talk2odim:

I had the same issue with my 2009 camry. My tyres were 215/60/16 and I increased to 225/60/16 after much consultation with "my ogas" here which solved my issues. I concure with Decotech and don't subscribe to the increase in tyre height cos it compromises a lot of factors. However if I must gain height I had rather increase the springs instead.....but I had still be careful on this route!
Um ok. Pls wats d diff btw ur old 215 n new 225?? The width or wat? Cos seems like its d same height.
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 7:07am On Jan 20, 2015
Bossforeva:
Like ur hubby needs the swag of larger wheels.. Sadly the swag works on the immediate past model and the next model of this car, but wn't look good on this. This car was meant for clergies and doctors like you that wanna be cool like that.
Lol! How come everywhere I look I see a 2.4 with 16" or 17" few with the factory 15". Like 1 in 10 cars have 15"
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by Bossforeva: 7:12am On Jan 20, 2015
drcynthia:

Lol! How come everywhere I look I see a 2.4 with 16" or 17" few with the factory 15". Like 1 in 10 cars have 15"
Toyota 2.4 shocked shocked is that a Minivan or an SUV
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by DECOtech(m): 8:25am On Jan 20, 2015
drcynthia:

Um ok. Pls wats d diff btw ur old 215 n new 225?? The width or wat? Cos seems like its d same height.

1" gain in height

225 is wider than 215
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by ivoryhouse(m): 11:03am On Jan 20, 2015
Well spoken guys, if you increase to 17" you will have to get a 1 -1.5" body lift which will cost a bit but will make the car safe to drive. I think you should check your shocks, then get tires that are a bit higher..
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by Coldplay007(f): 7:20pm On Jan 20, 2015
Had the same issue when I got my camry.. Seems the Goodyear (though 205/65/15)that came with it is naturally low.. I bought new tires with the same dimension 205/65/15 and the issue was resolved....

My advice, Buy brand new tires with the same dimensions.. It worked for me...
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 7:20am On Jan 21, 2015
Coldplay007:
Had the same issue when I got my camry.. Seems the Goodyear (though 205/65/15)that came with it is naturally low.. I bought new tires with the same dimension 205/65/15 and the issue was resolved....

My advice, Buy brand new tires with the same dimensions.. It worked for me...
Thanks so much. Wld check it out
Was with the dealer yday after work- he showed me all my options and i even meet another customer changing his 15" to 16" same Toyota Camry 2003. He used 215/65/16 all round
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by dokilolo: 2:11pm On Jan 21, 2015
will using a tyre size of 215/65/R16 on a 2003 Toyota Camry not have an effect on fuel consumption?
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 9:39pm On Jan 22, 2015
Hi guys!
Changed the rims today!
Also got new tires.
And changed the shocks( apparently the left front shock was bad)
Car is very ok now. All the spots i avoid before are now smooth passage for me.
215/65/16"
God bless u all

Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by DaimlerBen(m): 10:02pm On Jan 22, 2015
9icetoo:
... 215 stands for the width of the tire in millimeters, sixty is the height from the ground to the lip of the rim and 16 is the rim size in inches...
Please, oh!
60 is the percentage the tyre height is of the width. That is to say, for a tyre rated 215/60/16, the width is 215mm, the height from tread to the rim is 60% of 215mm and the rim diameter is 16 inches.

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Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by drcynthia(f): 8:02am On Jan 23, 2015
DaimlerBen:

Please, oh!
60 is the percentage the tyre height is of the width. That is to say, for a tyre rated 215/60/16, the width is 215mm, the height from tread to the rim is 60% of 215mm and the rim diameter is 16 inches.
Thanks!
Re: URGENT PLS!!! Toyota Camry 04 Tyre/rim Increase by KingMoney: 1:09pm On Jan 23, 2015
Op Pls Hw much did u get d rims!!thinking of changing mine also.

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