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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 3:03pm On Feb 02, 2015
ceejayluv:

When was the privatisation completed?... OBJ started the privatisation process, couldn't complete it and is now suddenly an emergency "progressive" supporting buhari.... You can go and vote your Messiah promising to invoke 20,000 MW in four years (knowing that it takes circa four years to build 1000MW, I laugh)..
That reminds me.. I heard Audu Ogbeh, a whole former national chairman of PDP has joined the pseudo-progressive bandwagon alongside other frustrated and quintessentially corrupt PDP elements... I rest my case...

You continue to ignore my points and question. 20,000MW can be built in 10-15 years. But not with the GEJs plan of 1000MW per 3-5 years. The power plants can be built simultaneously.

My main question again. If TUPC fails in delivering 2000MW in their power plant in 2018, what is the consequence? Without a consequence, failure is imminent..

By the way, I av not said Buhari is a messiah. But i will take a monkey to replace GEJ any day.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 3:11pm On Feb 02, 2015
skyope:


You continue to ignore my points and question. 20,000MW can be built in 10-15 years. But not with the GEJs plan of 1000MW per 3-5 years. The power plants can be built simultaneously.

My main question again. If TUPC fails in delivering 2000MW in their power plant in 2018, what is the consequence? Without a consequence, failure is imminent..

By the way, I av not said Buhari is a messiah. But I will take a monkey to replace GEJ any day.
So much venom... Well, as I said, I'll look for details of the memoranda signed by the new Genco and Disco firms. I can't conclude if there's such clause or not now.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 3:14pm On Feb 02, 2015
ceejayluv:

So much venom... Well, as I said, I'll look for details of the memoranda signed by the new Genco and Disco firms. I can't conclude if there's such clause or not now.

Venom?
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 3:21pm On Feb 02, 2015
skyope:


Venom?
"I will take a
monkey to replace GEJ any
day."

Such mindset never lets the bearer see any good in the present administration...
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by emperorbanks(m): 6:32pm On Feb 02, 2015
realnaijaa:
don't bring Akure into this were in Akure is there reasonable amount of power being generated.is it around ajipowo, arakale area,oluwatuyi,obale,oke aro,dajuma,futa,okeijebu/ijomu,shagari,on do road customs,where please tell.I really want to know.or are you talking about oluwatuyi or school of agric area.where in particular. Please stop dishing out rubbish. Power situation in Akure is very bad.

Calm down young girl. That u know almost everywhere in Akure by name doesn't mean u know the situation report there. Some part of Akure high school area have decent light. Finally I'd advice u learn how to express ursef in a less mean way.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by VolvoS60(m): 10:17pm On Feb 02, 2015
Dmentor:
Beautiful article for Nigerian people. But why on NYTimes? Washing our dirty linen in public? Is that a solution?

^^^
Don't focus on 'saving face'. If we spent as much time solving problems as we did on 'looking good' to outsiders, we wouldn't be where we are now.

I do not necessarily agree with all of the things Miss Adichie says most of the time. But her write up here is accurate.

One more thing: the 'solution' lies with you and I - ordinary Nigerians with voting power. We can demand performance from our leaders or we can suffer from their failure to deliver. The choice is ours to make.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by VolvoS60(m): 10:25pm On Feb 02, 2015
gratiaeo:
Nice article. I don't know whether to blame our leaders or witches and wizards on our epileptic power supply. The thing don de 2 much

^^^
This has nothing to do with sorcerers, shamans or mediums.

This is simply 'men at work'. Deeply flawed men who have failed and failed again.

Leave witches and wizards out of this. Power generation is not a paranormal activity.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by VolvoS60(m): 10:36pm On Feb 02, 2015
texazzpete:


Who cares if it started with GEJ? It is a PDP scourge that tens of billions of dollars have been invested in that sector yet we are still battling to generate 4500 MW at a peak, for a nation of 180 million people.

next you will say it is not a PDP thing because it did not start in 1999. If all other leaders reject that it 'started' in their tenure, who will we now hold responsible? tafawa balewa?


^^^
We can't hold Tafawa Balewa solely responsible. Most of the blame should go to Mungo Park and the Lander brothers. And before them, Mansa Musa. angry

Its only a few days now...We will soon see if Nigerians have truly had enough...

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by VolvoS60(m): 10:44pm On Feb 02, 2015
bukjam:


Yeah it happens.. But only in extreme cases. Generally, its bad but def not as bad as she painted it. That doesn't mean the power supply is sometn to be proud of. Its annoying, to say the least

^^^
You are equivocating. As someone pointed out earlier, power distribution in Nigeria is effectively a zero sum game. Find out more about the average power per capita of our peers and then tell us if its 'not as bad as she painted it'. angry
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by VolvoS60(m): 10:54pm On Feb 02, 2015
Tedman:
While I do admire Chimamanda Adichie's literary prowess, this article here to me is an overkill, as the picture she painted of Nigeria's power supply is but a few shades darker than what it really is. A non-Nigerian, upon reading this article would think we were using streams and ponds to generate electricity for our daily usage.

^^^
As I advised another poster who shares your views - please find out how Nigeria's electricity generation/distribution/consumption per capita figures compare with those of her peers. (Peers whom by the way, we routinely try to deride and put down angry ).

You may not know it but there are thousands of communities and settlements in Nigeria that do not have electricity at all, or at best, they make do with low voltage that destroys electrical appliances and imposes additional costs on those who are least equipped to bear the burden.

We have to stop worrying about keeping up appearances. I am more interested in making sure our leaders solve problems than I am in how non-Nigerians perceive us. (in this matter at least).

The truth shall make us free.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by VolvoS60(m): 11:01pm On Feb 02, 2015
ceejayluv:

So much venom... Well, as I said, I'll look for details of the memoranda signed by the new Genco and Disco firms. I can't conclude if there's such clause or not now.

^^^
grin

You started an exchange with someone who clearly knows at least as much about the industry as you do.

We are waiting for you to come back with reinforcements. Don't be long... grin
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by realnaijaa: 11:05pm On Feb 02, 2015
emperorbanks:


Calm down young girl. That u know almost everywhere in Akure by name doesn't mean u know the situation report there. Some part of Akure high school area have decent light. Finally I'd advice u learn how to express ursef in a less mean way.
so I don turn to young girl now. Can you tell me how many hours of light you claim to have in high school area per day and the total in a month.any way you said some part of a very small part of a state capital.my guy you are not serious.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 11:23pm On Feb 02, 2015
ceejayluv:

"I will take a
monkey to replace GEJ any
day."

Such mindset never lets the bearer see any good in the present administration...

Sadly i have such mindset. I am vexed in my spirit, body and soul. How could a man that had all the support in the world, including mine, fail so massively. In 2011, i had spent hours convincing friends that the PHD holder is the way. Today, they laugh at me. Today, the world laughs at Nigerians. It is deeply irritating and unforgivable.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by bukjam: 11:36pm On Feb 02, 2015
VolvoS60:


^^^
You are equivocating. As someone pointed out earlier, power distribution in Nigeria is effectively a zero sum game. Find out more about the average power per capita of our peers and then tell us if its 'not as bad as she painted it'. angry

Are you talking about the quantity or quality of power supplied? Coz with the article she wrote, she rated both 1 on a scale of 10. I think its 2.5. Both are poor, but its def not as poor as she made it out to be. Its nothing to be proud of but the article looked so 2005.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by VolvoS60(m): 12:11am On Feb 03, 2015
bukjam:


Are you talking about the quantity or quality of power supplied? Coz with the article she wrote, she rated both 1 on a scale of 10. I think its 2.5. Both are poor, but its def not as poor as she made it out to be. Its nothing to be proud of but the article looked so 2005.

^^^
undecided

As far as I am concerned, any debate about 'quality' vs 'quantity' of power supplied is splitting hair strands. The point the writer is trying to make is clear: she gets electricity only a few hours a day and when she does get it, the voltage is low and it ruins her valuable equipment! What more is there to say?

Pardon me but I didn't see any ranking by the author of the article on the quality and quantity of power supplied. Where did you get your 2.5 on a scale of 1 to 10 from?

Sir/madam, please do not attempt to defend the indefensible. I will urge you to do the same thing I urged other posters to do: compare Nigeria's per capita power figures with South Africa for example. Vague phrases such as 'it is poor but not as poor as she made it out to be' won't cut it here.

When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely, in your thoughts advanced to the stage of science. - William Thomson, First Baron Kelvin
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by bukjam: 1:01am On Feb 03, 2015
VolvoS60:


^^^
undecided

As far as I am concerned, any debate about 'quality' vs 'quantity' of power supplied is splitting hair strands. The point the writer is trying to make is clear: she gets electricity only a few hours a day and when she does get it, the voltage is low and it ruins her valuable equipment! What more is there to say?

Pardon me but I didn't see any ranking by the author of the article on the quality and quantity of power supplied. Where did you get your 2.5 on a scale of 1 to 10 from?

Sir/madam, please do not attempt to defend the indefensible. I will urge you to do the same thing I urged other posters to do: compare Nigeria's per capita power figures with South Africa for example. Vague phrases such as 'it is poor but not as poor as she made it out to be' won't cut it here.

When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely, in your thoughts advanced to the stage of science. - William Thomson, First Baron Kelvin


I admit I made a mistake rating it. But even with that, madam adichie's assessment of the situation of light in the country isn't true. And if she truly experiences that when she's in the coutry, I believe she's one of those who suffer the extreme cases. Generally, in the country, the power supply isn't as bad as that, quantity and quality wise. Hers is an extreme case. No be this country we dey?
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by VolvoS60(m): 1:12am On Feb 03, 2015
bukjam:


I admit I made a mistake rating it. But even with that, madam adichie's assessment of the situation of light in the country isn't true. And if she truly experiences that when she's in the coutry, I believe she's one of those who suffer the extreme cases. Generally, in the country, the power supply isn't as bad as that, quantity and quality wise. Hers is an extreme case. No be this country we dey?

^^^
Facts are stubborn things. We may not like them but they simply don't care.

I have gently suggested that you get evidence (freely available online in a google search) that will prove to you once and for all whether or not Adichie is exaggerating. It seems you would prefer that I instead engaged you in an endless back and forth argument on semantics. Do you realise how much time we could waste here arguing about the meaning of 'poor' versus 'not so poor'? undecided.

There isn't much left for me to say. Nigeria has 160 million souls and she generates less than 6000MW. South Africa has a population of 53 million and she generates over 200TW. undecided

The truth will indeed make us free.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by bukjam: 1:41am On Feb 03, 2015
VolvoS60:


^^^
Facts are stubborn things. We may not like them but they simply don't care.

I have gently suggested that you get evidence (freely available online in a google search) that will prove to you once and for all whether or not Adichie is exaggerating. It seems you would prefer that I instead engaged you in an endless back and forth argument on semantics. Do you realise how much time we could waste here arguing about the meaning of 'poor' versus 'not so poor'? undecided.

There isn't much left for me to say. Nigeria has 160 million souls and she generates less than 6000MW. South Africa has a population of 53 million and she generates over 200TW. undecided

The truth will indeed make us free.

Hehehe.. From the onset, my opinion has always been that Ngozi exagerrated her assessment a bit and that the power supply isn't as poor as she painted it. YOU WERE THE ONE WHO CHOSE TO ARGUE WITH THAT from the beginning, you don't av to start complaining about how arguing over that will be an exercise in futility now.
Miss Adichie wrote based on what she saw, I countered it based on what I've seen. Calm down. You don't av to throw your opinion as a fact, I think I've seen enough to make up my own opinion and I don't think you have to agree with it. And you trying to make ur opinion look like a fact is hilarious, the Nigeria Ngozi painted is so 2005. A lot has to be considered when throwing figures and stats around. I'll understand if u disagree based on what you've seen, but google? Chill. No be today we dey twist stats.

Anywayz, we don't av to make an issue out of this. Calm down.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by bukjam: 1:55am On Feb 03, 2015
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VolvoS60:


^^^
Facts are stubborn things. We may not like them but they simply don't care.

I have gently suggested that you get evidence (freely available online in a google search) that will prove to you once and for all whether or not Adichie is exaggerating. It seems you would prefer that I instead engaged you in an endless back and forth argument on semantics. Do you realise how much time we could waste here arguing about the meaning of 'poor' versus 'not so poor'? undecided.

There isn't much left for me to say. Nigeria has 160 million souls and she generates less than 6000MW. South Africa has a population of 53 million and she generates over 200TW. undecided

The truth will indeed make us free.

See this crap I found on a Guardian UK website trying to make us look like we're taking an upward trajectory in our big to tmake power supply better [quote\] In April 2010, the new president,
Goodluck Jonathan, appointed himself
the minister of power, supported by a
minister of state, and resolved to tackle
power as his highest priority.
Inadequate programme management
capability was identified as one key
factor in the persistent failure of the
Nigerian power sector to make any real
progress. The DFID-funded Nigeria
Infrastructure Advisory Facility (NIAF),
which is managed by Adam Smith
International, agreed to set up a Power
Programme Support Unit (PPSU) to help
the Government take immediate action
to improve power supply.
A highly focused, expert team of
international and local specialists was
brought in to staff the PPSU under the
minister of state, and the PPSU soon
became known as the "war room". The
war room was given the mandate of
rehabilitating under-performing assets,
adding more generating and
transmission capacity to the grid, as
well as stabilising the network by
reducing the alarming number of system
collapses.
The war room developed a
comprehensive rehabilitation plan, with
over 10,000 lines of activity, involving
repairs and upgrades on plant and
equipment across Nigeria, some of
which had not been adequately
maintained for decades. NIAF advisers
also designed a comprehensive
monitoring and evaluation framework,
which produces daily operational
reports on performance throughout the
network, and have been helping push
through the recovery plan to date. The
improvement in performance in the past
2 years has been dramatic. NIAF
support for power delivery has helped
achieve significant improvement in
electricity supply, with power sent out
increasing by approximately 35% from
the inception of the rehabilitation plan.
In December the power supply reached
a new peak with a daily average of
4,000 MW being achieved. There is a
significant decrease in major blackouts.
The improved service delivery in power
has already produced savings to Nigeria
worth over £1bn in a full year.

Whoever reads that abroad will think its really improving whereas its not. See things can be twisted anyhow to follow a line of thought. There are so many pages online that makes Nigeria's power supply look wonderful but being here makes us know how it is.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by otokx(m): 2:12am On Feb 03, 2015
Light situation has not improved tremendously as some people will like us to believe. We have to acknowledge the truth before progress can be made. We have been unable to sustain the 4000MW for quite a long period now talk less of breaking the barrier.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 7:46am On Feb 03, 2015
VolvoS60:


^^^
grin

You started an exchange with someone who clearly knows at least as much about the industry as you do.

We are waiting for you to come back with reinforcements. Don't be long... grin
Oh pls... Someone , who like many Nigerians, thought that a multi-gigawatt plant can be built in a year or less hitherto the debate? Anyway, I'll be back with more facts.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 7:57am On Feb 03, 2015
skyope:


Sadly i have such mindset. I am vexed in my spirit, body and soul. How could a man that had all the support in the world, including mine, fail so massively. In 2011, i had spent hours convincing friends that the PHD holder is the way. Today, they laugh at me. Today, the world laughs at Nigerians. It is deeply irritating and unforgivable.
Well, I understand your stance. I don't just buy the idea of supporting one with a questionable democratic inclination out of spiteful disappointment.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 12:19pm On Feb 03, 2015
ceejayluv:

Well, I understand your stance. I don't just buy the idea of supporting one with a questionable democratic inclination out of spiteful disappointment.

I don't know what Buhari did or did not do. But i am sure of what GEJ has done, and failed to do. So i believe anything will be better than GEJ.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by emperorbanks(m): 2:27pm On Feb 03, 2015
realnaijaa:
so I don turn to young girl now. Can you tell me how many hours of light you claim to have in high school area per day and the total in a month.any way you said some part of a very small part of a state capital.my guy you are not serious.

I can't tell how many hours cos I go to work as oppose counting hours of electricity at home, but there's always light when I need it.

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