On Xmas Day, "pastor" Rick Warren, the currently-celebrated evangelist who is on every TV screen and front page as the hand-picked preacher to deliver the invocation of divine magic at the Obama inauguration ceremony, gave an effusive, rambling account on the NBC Today Show that demonstrated his incredible naivety about rational thinking and how disconnected his brand of religion - at least - is from reality. He was gushing over a miracle that he said had "blessed" his family.

The facts: Warren said that his daughter-in-law Jaime gave birth to her first child six weeks prematurely, though he can't seem to remember whether it was five, six, or seven weeks, since he gave all three figures, The hospital, he said, performed a C-section to save the baby's life - and the mother's. In that procedure, Warren said, they discovered that it was a "breech baby," that the umbilical cord was wrapped around the baby's neck and it was not receiving oxygen.
If Jaime had tried to give birth in the normal way, at the normal time, and if she'd "pushed" during the delivery, it might have killed both her and the child. What they didn't know at the time, but then discovered, was that the mother had what Warren described as a "three-inch" brain tumor - which may be hyperbolic, since I think that such a growth might be visually evident.

But consider: the baby was in a breech situation, a critical position arranged by God; this was remedied by medical science during the Caesarian procedure, an invention by Man to thwart natural disasters brought about by a not-uncommon imperfection of the human body - which is also God's design. And the baby's umbilical cord had shut off oxygen-rich blood, another design error, or maybe a purposeful Act of God. The mother had a sizeable brain tumor, placed there by God, who we're told creates all these things.

And the Divine solution to this problem, according to Rick Warren? God - who, remember, is the Creator of Heaven and Earth, Omnipotent and Omniscient, knows all, the One who can do anything He wishes - arranged the oxygen-deprived baby in a breech position, bringing about a crisis that medical science had to avert by performing an operation. And He thereafter allowed medical science to detect the tumor, which is still in place, being poorly placed for access by surgery. Who designed this scenario - Rube Goldberg, ?

I ask, is this God character a comedian, using humans as His marionettes for amusement? Does He get His kicks by manipulating us just for laughs? Was this near-disaster for the Warren family just a sort of Divine whim? How can Rick Warren see this as a demonstration of God's mercy - a miracle, yet! - rather than as a cruel, capricious, joke? A caring God would not have created and placed that brain tumor in the mother, would not have designed the process of gestation-and-birth so that oxygen starvation and breech delivery are possible, and would not be playing with the lives and security of humans, who He claims to have designed and created - out of dirt, yet. Doing this, putting humans in danger of death, is a purposeful act that He Himself has already declared to be a sin. Just who makes the rules in this stupid morality play, ?

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/363-i-dont-get-the-joke-my-year-end-tirade.html

God is a miracle working God

Hehehehehehe husband and wife mata lol

busybein:

God is a miracle working God

what kind of miracle? wrapping a baby's umbilical cord around the baby's neck so that the baby was not receiving oxygen or arranging the oxygen-deprived baby in a breech position,?

mazaje:

what kind of miracle? wrapping a baby's umbilical cord around the baby's neck so that the baby was not receiving oxygen or arranging the oxygen-deprived baby in a breech position,?

na so u go let people matter give u heart attack. God hater. go sit down jare

JJYOU:

na so u go let people matter give u heart attack. God hater. go sit down jare

lol it's a miracle working God

@Mazaje

You've got to keep in mind that the guy is a pastor, if he starts hating God now and makes it public, where him garri go come tomorrow?

mazaje:

what kind of miracle? wrapping a baby's umbilical cord around the baby's neck so that the baby was not receiving oxygen or arranging the oxygen-deprived baby in a breech position,?

Mazaje yane? since christains believe that the bible God creates people, I wonder what the innocent baby did to him that he decided to wrap the baby's umbilical cord around the baby's neck so that the baby was not receiving oxygen or arranging the deprived baby in a breech position. Any way since the bible God is on record for trying to kill his best friend moses for no good reason I believe wrapping a baby's umbilical cord around the baby's neck and depriving the baby of oxygen will not be a difficult thing for him to do.

bindex:

Mazaje yane? since christains believe that the bible God creates people, I wonder what the innocent baby did to him that he decided to wrap the baby's umbilical cord around the baby's neck so that the baby was not receiving oxygen or arranging the deprived baby in a breech position. Any way since the bible God is on record for trying to kill his best friend moses for no good reason I believe wrapping a baby's umbilical cord around the baby's neck and depriving the baby of oxygen will not be a difficult thing for him to do.

christains believe that their imaginary biblegod is the most merciful personality ever.even after trying to kill his friend moses because of circumcision they still find it odd that we ridicule such a personality that commanded or slaughtered millions and millions of people, including children and infants? in some cases because they did simple things as carrying sticks on a sabbath, burned incense near his place of worship or for simply worshipping other gods, despite the fact that they believed he gave the people freewill to do so. there is simply no good in the biblegod, even after his magical new testament transformation. should a serial killer be forgiven for all his crimes because he changes his mind afterward? no. imagine christans calling allah a god of war and murder when their own god is no better. its completely ridiculous.

mazaje:

what kind of miracle? wrapping a baby's umbilical cord around the baby's neck so that the baby was not receiving oxygen or arranging the oxygen-deprived baby in a breech position,?

did the baby die?nope


all dis is for the name of the God to be glorified

busybein:

did the baby die?nope


all this is for the name of the God to be glorified

glorified how? was it the biblegod that performed the surgery or men? without men performing the surgery the baby and mother would both have died.

mazaje:

glorified how? was it the biblegod that performed the surgery or men?

God uses pple to save pple

busybein:

God uses people to save people

what about other people that were in this condition and called on the name of the biblegod but still died? did their deaths happen so that the name of the god could be glorified?

mazaje:

what about other people that were in this condition and called on the name of the biblegod but still died? did their deaths happen so that the name of the god could be glorified?

if they had called upon the name of God with faith in their hearts,they would have been saved

busybein:

if they had called upon the name of God with faith in their hearts,they would have been saved

you don start again with this convoluted excuses of yours abi? who told you that they called upon the name of the lord without faith in their hearts? remember you still have not told me the name of the church where my friends can go and pray on their altar and get healed of their HIV/AIDs.

busybein my lovely wife you don run?

mazaje:

you don start again with this convoluted excuses of yours abi?

who told you that they called upon the name of the lord without faith in their hearts?

with faith in our hearts,our prayers will be answered,call upon the name of the Lord in truth and in spirit he will surely answer,he does not fail his pple

remember you still have not told me the name of the church where my friends can go and pray on their altar and get healed of their HIV/AIDs.

  so u have friends wt Aids? for dat no more bedroom business ,tell ur friends dat the church is in their hearts,the heart makes up the church,u must believe in ur heart before anything happens,God is in their hearts,all they have to do is call upon him

mazaje:

busybein my lovely wife you don run? 

me run from u? na u go run naaa,by d time i ride on u

busybein:

me run from u? na u go run naaa,by d time i ride on u

haba baby make we no spoil and expose our selves for here now. na for room we suppose dey talk all this talk abi how you see am. i for no mind make you ride on me now ohh, cold dey here no be small.

mazaje:

haba baby make we no spoil and expose our selves for here now. na for room we suppose dey talk all this talk abi how you see am. i for no mind make you ride on me now ohh, cold dey here no be small.

bedroom?i no dey do bedroom again,i better do kitchen sink,bath tub,whilst standing on d wall,eating table,inside d car or floor   after d whole ride,summer will begin inside ur body busybein is no mouth maker but an aggressor

busybein:

bedroom?i no dey do bedroom again,i better do kitchen sink,bath tub,whilst standing on d wall,eating table,inside d car or floor   after d whole ride,summer will begin inside ur body busybein is no mouth maker but an aggressor

wow! ohhh nice. . . .am an aggressor too who loves doing it everywhere remember i have lots of pleasurable tricks you have never experienced any where before. by the way busybein which church do you attend? i want to take my friends to visit that altar. abi how you see am, lol

mazaje:

wow! ohhh nice. . . .am an aggressor too who loves doing it everywhere remember[b] i have lots of pleasurable tricks you have never experienced any where before. [/b]

you want to bet? busybein is far gone in d business of maximum satisfaction,i need a medal sef

by the way busybein which church do you attend? i want to take my friends to visit that altar. abi how you see am, lol

i attend one of them pentecostal churches in europe,take ur friends to naija,I'm sure they will get enoff healing there

busybein:

you want to bet? busybein is far gone in d business of maximum satisfaction,i need a medal sef

really, mazaje is a king when it comes to that, maximum pleasure guaranteed with extra stuffs to go with it as well.

i attend one of them pentecostal churches in europe,take ur friends to naija,I'm sure they will get enoff healing there

i wonder why pastors of european churches no dey claim to hell people when it comes to cancer, HIV/AIDS, broken bone, deafness, blindness or raising people from the dead. why be say na only nigerian pators dey do such things?

mazaje:

really, mazaje is a king when it comes to that, maximum pleasure guaranteed with extra stuffs to go with it as well.

mba,naaaa mazaje cant beat me to dis game,naaa not when i make d male specie whine like women,naaaaa infact u fit forget ur "kini" for my place run go

i wonder why pastors of european churches no dey claim to hell people when it comes to cancer, HIV/AIDS, broken bone, deafness, blindness or raising people from the dead. why be say na only nigerian pators dey do such things?

nigerians r more spiritual i guess,when it comes to the word spirituality no country beats naija to it

busybein:

mba,naaaa mazaje can't beat me to this game,naaa not when i make d male specie whine like women,naaaaa infact u fit forget ur "kini" for my place run go

haba baby mazaje is the boss, do you know what mazaje means in hausa? go and ask around, its only real men that bear that name. men that are excellent in the business of giving pleasure. mazaje, has got some magic fingers, tongue and stick. don't even try to mess with mazaje, you will die from pleasure you have never experienced before.

nigerians r more spiritual i guess,when it comes to the word spirituality no country beats naija to it

nigerians are more spiritual or more gullible? do you believe that pastor adeboye drove his car for over 300km on an empty tank?

mazaje:

haba baby mazaje is the boss, do you know what mazaje means in hausa? go and ask around, its only real men that bear that name. men that are excellent in the business of giving pleasure. mazaje, has got some magic fingers, tongue and stick. don't even try to mess with mazaje, you will die from pleasure you have never experienced before.

ahahahaha mazaje,for dis one i will argue till thy kingdom come,lai lai,busybein is a proff oooo,i swear if u dont jerk out 3 times at a go,make u know say no be me busybein dey talk,infact i will teach u diff styles and postions(squatting,and stradling)

nigerians are more spiritual or more gullible? do you believe that pastor adeboye drove his car for over 300km on an empty tank?

i believe,there is nothing God and faith cannot do

busybein:

ahahahaha mazaje,for this one i will argue till thy kingdom come,lai lai,busybein is a proff oooo,i swear if u don't jerk out 3 times at a go,make u know say no be me busybein dey talk,infact i will teach u diff styles and postions(squatting,and stradling)

have you ever orgasmed 12 times in one session? try mazaje, you go pack your kaya run, you won't be able to stand the heat and pleasure. wallahi no lie.

i believe,there is nothing God and faith cannot do

do you have faith? if you do i want you to take your car if you own one, make sure that it is empty and has no drop of fuel in it pray to god and drive it around. i will be waiting for the result of the experiment.

mazaje:

have you ever orgasmed 12 times in one session? try mazaje, you go pack your kaya run, you won't be able to stand the heat and pleasure. wallahi no lie.

make i hiaaa word mazaje,i will leave u wt a muscle pull by d time im done,looking at my skin alone go make u cumm like rushing tap not to talk of d real action,when i show some grinding moves and skills on u,u know rolling and

do you have faith? if you do i want you to take your car if you own one, make sure that it is empty and has no drop of fuel in it pray to god and drive it around. i will be waiting for the result of the experiment.

when the devil came wt a proposal similar to dis,wat did JESUS SAY?thou shall not tempt the lord thy God

see as una dey flirt on religion section, Kai

tope2000:

see as una dey flirt on religion section, Kai

u wan join,i hope mazaje go like party

mazaje dey argue wt me,say him sabi do,lai lai,i no gree, i go swing d guy left,right,down,up center in a jiffing

busybein:

u wan join,i hope mazaje go like party

Mazeje is on a whole different level compare to guys i flirt with
I dash u, na only u fit handle am