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845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by Revolution: 11:19am On Feb 25, 2015
A lot of people have criticised Buhari for the jail sentences of 200 to 300 years that handed out to some politicians during his regime but how do those jail terms compare to those handed out to people convicted of corruption and financial crimes in the United State. Here are some of the longest jail sentences ever handed out in the US:

On February 15, 2000, Shalom Weiss was found guilty for his participation in the bankruptcy of National Heritage Life Insurance Corporation of New York. After robbing investors of their money and featuring in the FBI most wanted list, he was caught and was sentenced for 845 years. He appealed for a lesser punishment but was denied.

Jail Term: 845 years


Norman Schmidt promised attractive high rates to hundreds of investors and robbed them of millions of dollars. He used this money to cover personal expenses and to lead a life of luxury instead of investing as he promised. On April 29, 2008, US District Judge Robert E. Blackburn sentenced him to 330 years of imprisonment after he was found guilty of fraud and money laundering

Jail Term: 330 years


In March 2009, Madoff pleaded guilty to 11 counts of fraud, theft and money laundering. Assistant US attorney, Marc Litt, had been pressing for 150 years, due to the "scope, duration and nature" of the fraud. Madoff's lawyer, Ira Lee Sorkin, had called for leniency and was hoping to keep the sentence as low as 12 years, asking the judge to "set aside the emotion and hysteria attendant to this case."

On June 29, 2009, District Judge Denny Chin condemned his crimes as "extraordinarily evil" and imposed a 150 year prison sentence that was three times as long as the federal probation office suggested and more than 10 times as long as defense lawyers had requested.

Jail Term: 150 years


By the way the US has much longer jail sentences but they are for non-financial crimes, e.g. murder, rape etc. For the record, the longest jail sentence in US history is 30,000 years, which was given to Oklahoma child rapist Charles Scott Robinson in 1994.

Those who criticise the jail sentences handed out by the Buhari regime should think again. Even the world's oldest democracy does the same to ensure it acts as a deterrence. We need long jail sentences for corruption in Nigeria.

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by buygala(m): 11:25am On Feb 25, 2015
Correct grin




A lot of people in this country deserve to be kept in prison until Jesus or Muhammed comes personally and posts their bail undecided


All the peeps running scared because of GMB's imminent election as president are peeps who are so corrupt that even the devil is an apprentice under them... angry

JAIL THEM ALL!!!

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by StunningCEO: 11:29am On Feb 25, 2015
janadaft rewards corruptn with promotn. dat is y moro is singin his praise. all d tivs in 9jeria love Jonathan. bode George, ffk, alameisegha shout jonagoat foreva. why? u no d ansa.

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by Nobody: 11:30am On Feb 25, 2015
Nice revelation

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by BeeBeeOoh(m): 11:37am On Feb 25, 2015
I've got nothing much to say, just a capital "NO to an Ancestor will do. God bless u all.. And to my basher's & quoter's, I love you all..









GEJ till 2019!!
If e pain u, just plug ur electric iron for electric & kiss am..

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by mrmetoo1: 11:44am On Feb 25, 2015
One of the most technological advanced countries still jail people for their crimes. Meanwhile our "they can use social media to hack our voices" president wants to use technology that he doesn't understand to fight and deter corruption.. what a joke!!

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by GeneralBosco: 12:11pm On Feb 25, 2015
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BeeBeeOoh:
I've got nothing much to say, just a capital "NO to an Ancestor will do. God bless u all.. And to my basher's & quoter's, I love you all..









GEJ till 2019!!
If e pain u, just plug ur electric iron for electric & kiss am..
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Unfortunately there's no light....sycophantic 1diot angry

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by Orunto: 12:13pm On Feb 25, 2015
The problem here is that the two States compared are really not compatible in terms of Obedience and Implementation of laws.
Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by SLIDEwaxie(m): 12:14pm On Feb 25, 2015
I prefer death sentence.
But the mumu wey say he wan fight corruption with technology, let's ask him, if he catches them, did he just let them go as his won version of a deterrent to others?

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by BeeBeeOoh(m): 12:23pm On Feb 25, 2015
GeneralBosco:
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Unfortunately there's no light....sycophantic 1diot angry
haba! Upon sey I tell u sey I love u. Kai! Are u dis mean
Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by jojomario(m): 1:49pm On Feb 25, 2015
Many will flee the country before May 29 2015. This is certain.

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by Change2015(m): 2:00pm On Feb 25, 2015
Orunto:
The problem here is that the two States compared are really not compatible in terms of Obedience and Implementation of laws.

That needs to change if we are to prosper and develop. Even Clinton and his wife were investigated when he was president, and Nixon resigned because of criminal complicity in a political operation. The only major casualty here has been Ibori, who fled Nigeria because he quarrelled with Jonathan and didn't want him made acting-president. And it was the British courts that tried and jailed him for corruption, not us. Alams who also fled ball in Britain, like Dariye, was quickly pardoned by the president and spent barely 24 hours in prison despite being convicted. Jonathan does not set a good example for the nation.

#change
#GMB
#APC

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by ogb5(m): 2:53pm On Feb 25, 2015
OP, obviously you do not understand why people are against the type of judgement given out by Buhari. In summary, it was plain evil.

I will try and explain to you, maybe you will open your mind a little to understand.

In sane society, no one uses laws and jail terms for sinister motives. All Buhari jail terms had sinister motives behind them, that is why people kicked against it.

1. Back dating laws. How will you feel if a law is promulgated today making it a jailable offence to insult someone on nairaland and such a law is made retroactive to be effective from the last 6 yrs, you will agree that many NL members will go to jail for something that was not a jailable offence as at the time the it was committed. That was what Buhari was doing, he looked at people, thought how best to jailed them and promulgated backdated laws to get them jailed. This is criminal for any leader to do.

2. Compromising the legal system. During Buhari regime, you are guilty if Buhari thinks so.
You will have a hell time trying to prove your innocence. The foundation of modern law and justice is hinged on assuming that an accused is innocent until proven otherwise, in Buhari's case an accused is guilty until proven otherwise.
If the court is unable to prove someone guilty, the accuse is kept in jail and sent to another court until they can find a way to find the accused guilty. That is not justice, that is simple witch hunting. No one likes to be witch hunted.
As a example, the judge was instructed to jail Fela even though Fela had a good case, the judge later went to beg Fela.

3. Using tthe excuse of anti-corruption for hidden agenda: Buhari had his hidden agenda, and was only using the excuse of fighting corruption to achieve his hidden agenda.
An example is the case of Chief Adekunle Ajasin: Adekunle was arrested and charged to the special tribunal set up by Buhari to jail politicians.
In the first trial, Adekunle was found innocent of all charge of corruption and abuse of office, Buhari ordered for him to be retried, Adekule was kept in jail for retrial.

In the second trial, Adekunle was found innocent of all charges, Buhari once again ordered for a retrial. Adekunle was kept in jail for a retrial.

In the 3rd trial, Adekunle was found innocent of all charges, what did Buhari do after this?
Buhari did not release Adekunle, Buhari did not call for a 4th trial rather Buhari simply jailed Adekunle indefinitely.

Another case is the case of keeping president Shagari in comfortable house arrest while keeping his vice in Kirikiri maximum prison. There is no other reason for this than tribalism.

There are many references to the evils of Buhari, no need listing them for you.

Soyinka has said it all about Buhari, Soyinka will eat with the devil with a long spoon, but he will not dare to eat with Buhari

You can follow the link below to read more about the evil nature of Buhari.

https://www.nairaland.com/1338941/crimes-buhari-wole-soyinka
Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by Mylove55(f): 4:08pm On Feb 25, 2015
ogb5:
OP, obviously you do not understand why people are against the type of judgement given out by Buhari. In summary, it was plain evil.

I will try and explain to you, maybe you will open your mind a little to understand.

In sane society, no one uses laws and jail terms for sinister motives. All Buhari jail terms had sinister motives behind them, that is why people kicked against it.

1. Back dating laws. How will you feel if a law is promulgated today making it a jailable offence to insult someone on nairaland and such a law is made retroactive to be effective from the last 6 yrs, you will agree that many NL members will go to jail for something that was not a jailable offence as at the time the it was committed. That was what Buhari was doing, he looked at people, thought how best to jailed them and promulgated backdated laws to get them jailed. This is criminal for any leader to do.

2. Compromising the legal system. During Buhari regime, you are guilty if Buhari thinks so.
You will have a hell time trying to prove your innocence. The foundation of modern law and justice is hinged on assuming that an accused is innocent until proven otherwise, in Buhari's case an accused is guilty until proven otherwise.
If the court is unable to prove someone guilty, the accuse is kept in jail and sent to another court until they can find a way to find the accused guilty. That is not justice, that is simple witch hunting. No one likes to be witch hunted.
As a example, the judge was instructed to jail Fela even though Fela had a good case, the judge later went to beg Fela.

3. Using tthe excuse of anti-corruption for hidden agenda: Buhari had his hidden agenda, and was only using the excuse of fighting corruption to achieve his hidden agenda.
An example is the case of Chief Adekunle Ajasin: Adekunle was arrested and charged to the special tribunal set up by Buhari to jail politicians.
In the first trial, Adekunle was found innocent of all charge of corruption and abuse of office, Buhari ordered for him to be retried, Adekule was kept in jail for retrial.

In the second trial, Adekunle was found innocent of all charges, Buhari once again ordered for a retrial. Adekunle was kept in jail for a retrial.

In the 3rd trial, Adekunle was found innocent of all charges, what did Buhari do after this?
Buhari did not release Adekunle, Buhari did not call for a 4th trial rather Buhari simply jailed Adekunle indefinitely.

Another case is the case of keeping president Shagari in comfortable house arrest while keeping his vice in Kirikiri maximum prison. There is no other reason for this than tribalism.

There are many references to the evils of Buhari, no need listing them for you.

Soyinka has said it all about Buhari, Soyinka will eat with the devil with a long spoon, but he will not dare to eat with Buhari

You can follow the link below to read more about the evil nature of Buhari.

https://www.nairaland.com/1338941/crimes-buhari-wole-soyinka
guy u are wrong 1.no body can backdate an insult on faceless forum,that example is too poor,it only occur to drug peddlers who kills souls and kill d nation by spoiling d image of nigeria they deserve backdating.a very good example,i wil urge buhari to backdate d law to year 2000,to give death penalty to those boko haram and millitant that have kill more than 20,000 innocent soul,displace millions of pple from their home,they have kill d image of nigeria. 2.if he jail maina and madueke tomoro,u wil be shouting political witch hurt,when everybody already know those who are corrupt,d same way dikko and jim nwobodo were highly corrupt,he neva jail who were not corrupt,ambrose ali,ajasin and awolowo,was just for their party,not really stealing,oh according to u saTANiod stealing is not corruption.u don't need any judge to tell u gej is not corrupt.

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by Revolution: 5:32pm On Feb 25, 2015
ogb5:
OP, obviously you do not understand why people are against the type of judgement given out by Buhari. In summary, it was plain evil.

I will try and explain to you, maybe you will open your mind a little to understand.

In sane society, no one uses laws and jail terms for sinister motives. All Buhari jail terms had sinister motives behind them, that is why people kicked against it.

1. Back dating laws. How will you feel if a law is promulgated today making it a jailable offence to insult someone on nairaland and such a law is made retroactive to be effective from the last 6 yrs, you will agree that many NL members will go to jail for something that was not a jailable offence as at the time the it was committed. That was what Buhari was doing, he looked at people, thought how best to jailed them and promulgated backdated laws to get them jailed. This is criminal for any leader to do.


I was referring to the length of the jail terms rather than how justice or laws were applied. I don't agree with retroactive application of laws, however, many countries do back date laws when they face unusual crimes, for example, the United States applied anti-terrorism laws retroactively in Guantanamo bay. Fortunately, the US Supreme court overturned the convictions later. The difference in a military regime is that there is no supreme court to appeal to but there are many examples of appeal and supreme courts in developed countries overturning verdicts because they violated post facto laws or sections of the constitution.

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Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by ogb5(m): 7:03pm On Feb 25, 2015
Revolution:


I was referring to the length of the jail terms rather than how justice or laws were applied. I don't agree with retroactive application of laws, however, many countries do back date laws when they face unusual crimes, for example, the United States applied anti-terrorism laws retroactively in Guantanamo bay. Fortunately, the US Supreme court overturned the convictions later. The difference in a military regime is that there is no supreme court to appeal to but there are many examples of appeal and supreme courts in developed countries overturning verdicts because they violated post facto laws or sections of the constitution.

Back dating of laws is wrong anywhere any day. So in that light convictions by Buhari with those backdated laws were wrong.

On the issue of length of imprisonment. Buhari was just trying to be a sadist with those length of imprisonment. In law there is supposed to be punishment fitting the crime. If someone steal 1 million naira, it will not be fair to jail him for 100 yrs. Those length of imprisonment was not specified in our legal books prior to Buhari's regime. But people objected to the jail terms because people felt it was witch hunting.

As an example, look at case of Ambrose Alli, the former governor Of Bendel state. A contractor donated 800,000 naira to UPN, Alli's party. For that reason Alli was jailed for 100 yrs by Buhari leading to the death of Alli. If donation of private money by a private company to a political party is wrong, why did Buhari not prosecute the party executives who received the donation, why did he single out the governor. The reason is simple, Buhari wanted to jail politicians and was searching everywhere for any excuse to jail them. It had nothing to do with fighting corruption, Buhari simply wanted to stamp his authority.
Re: 845 Years US Jail Term For Financial Crime - Compare To Terms During Buhari Govt by Nobody: 7:17pm On Feb 25, 2015
How much did nwobudo stole? Money that can't buy Peugeot.

Criminal animal.

Meanwhile nobody has gone to jail in the last 5yrs for corruption at top level. I bet he has better technology than the US.

FOI didn't even send aba morro out of office.

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