Dolemite:


I am guessing you are one of those logical Christians, so what's your explanation for the orderliness of the universe?

Logical Christians indeed.

I'm just another human.

Yes, I have talked about you asking yourself some fundamental questions already. I don't Know if you've ever done that...if you haven't then the issue of the orderliness should come in while absorbing whatever answer you're convinced with.

Just you and you alone, it must be a personal experience. the effort lies on you, if only the true volition is within you then you would be led to the "great" explanation of "the mobile phone" which its essence at this time must surpass that of a mobile phone.

timmy2409:
Off the top of my head, there's rinrin23, and possibly EnlightenedSoul

Simply irreligious, and have no claims to having superior esoteric/exoteric knowledge as most theists do

rinrin23:


Simply irreligious, and have no claims to having superior esoteric/exoteric knowledge as most theists do

Well put! It's the same with "strong" atheists IMO. What say you?

@Justcare: This post aptly describes my position.

davien:
Actually strong atheists really do present their case very well....unlike strong theists.

Care to expand?

EnlightenedSoul:


Care to expand?

Yes, strong atheists defend their position for the non-existence of "gods/god" using and evaluating the claim....

Something like this....

#1 Claim ;

X "god" is perfectly merciful and just...

Response ;

Mercy and justice cannot coexist because mercy is a suspension of justice....you can't suspend justice and still be just at the same time...this goes against the law of non-contradiction in logical thought..
Therefore such a thing/being is impossible....

An example would also be you can't eat your cake and have it.

The above claim and response would be a strong atheist' take for the non-existence of the "god/gods",from evaluating the claim.

EnlightenedSoul:


Well put! It's the same with "strong" atheists IMO. What say you?

@Justcare: This post aptly describes my position.

oh you're undecided and ain't bothered...

EnlightenedSoul:


Well put! It's the same with "strong" atheists IMO. What say you?

@Justcare: This post aptly describes my position.

Agreed but I think the term 'God' has been so over- and inappropriately used. I don't believe in 'God' in the religious sense. In the (a) spiritual sense we could say we are all gods, or the sum total of all our souls form 'God'. There are endless possibilities really, I choose not to be rigid in my thinking and this has opened my mind up to different levels of enlightenment I never thought I could reach. I believe we may sort of have the same position, don't think Atheism is the right category though.

rinrin23:


Agreed but I think the term 'God' has been so over- and inappropriately used. I don't believe in 'God' in the religious sense. In the (a) spiritual sense we could say we are all gods, or the sum total of all our souls form 'God'. There are endless possibilities really, I choose not to be rigid in my thinking and this has opened my mind up to different levels of enlightenment I never thought I could reach. I believe we may sort of have the same position, don't think Atheism is the right category though.

You are an atheist sweetheart or can be referred to as Agnostic atheist..

But educate me, what do you mean by soul?

johnydon22:

You are an atheist sweetheart or can be referred to as Agnostic atheist..

But educate me, what do you mean by soul?

Mildly put - the indestructible essence of a living thing. I'd be stuck on nairaland if I begin to explain any further

Again I don't believe in boxing belief or unbelief into categories. I think each person is at different stages of enlightenment or lack thereof at different period of times, and enlightenment is a journey.

rinrin23:


Mildly put - the indestructible essence of a living thing. I'd be stuck on nairaland if I begin to explain any further

Again I don't believe in boxing belief or unbelief into categories. I think each person is at different stages of enlightenment or lack thereof at different period of times, and enlightenment is a journey.

Plato described it as a more refined atom that is the essence of life and this is still confined to the dimension of spiritual... so this as we know it is unproven.

Anyway do you believe that soul lives on after death

rinrin23:


Agreed but I think the term 'God' has been so over- and inappropriately used. I don't believe in 'God' in the religious sense. In the (a) spiritual sense we could say we are all gods, or the sum total of all our souls form 'God'. There are endless possibilities really, I choose not to be rigid in my thinking and this has opened my mind up to different levels of enlightenment I never thought I could reach. I believe we may sort of have the same position, don't think Atheism is the right category though.

Neither do I.

I was simply inferring that the "strong" atheist is just as guilty of the below as the theist. I hope you'll not mind the slight edit for emphasis.

rinrin23:

Simply irreligious, and have no claims to having superior esoteric/exoteric knowledge as most a/theists do

JustCare:


oh you're undecided and ain't bothered...

I wonder how you arrived at this conclusion.

EnlightenedSoul:


I wonder how you arrived at this conclusion.

what else is there to figure out

Dolemite:


I am guessing you are one of those logical Christians, so what's your explanation for the orderliness of the universe?

Don't, just don't listen to him.

BoboYekini:
Don't, just don't listen to him.

huh

Dolemite:
Am I the only sista atheist on Nairaland?

Freecocoa,dhammyg,kay17, etc

This thread is old sha....

Op. You dont believe god exists?

Dolemite:
Am I the only sista atheist on Nairaland?

HI
U ARE NOT ALONE

dhammyg:
HI U ARE NOT ALONE

Both atheist and feminist?
Well, the two always go in pari passu.... Long tym, how's school?

Atheist discuss God even more than Christians.

chinnyonwu:
Op. You dont believe god exists?

Dis is a joke rit?

Dolemite:
Am I the only sista atheist on Nairaland?

you are not alone
ma fav sista atheist MizJanet

Dolemite:


I have no freaking idea, consider this illustration, a village untouched by civilization suddenly sees a cellphone in the sand, it makes noises and the technology is way too advanced for them, the village witchdoctor declares that the 'GODS' are responsible for this mysterious device and the village dances and praises the GODS, I am that villager who doesn't buy into it instead has faith that there must be some logical explanation for it even though I have no freaking idea how such a wonderful device could ever be created by man.

I have no idea how this wonderful creation called earth came to be, but I do not believe the bible's explanation because it doesn't make any sense.

perfect,

God of the gap. i don't blame those our stone age ancestors because, there is no other explanation that is available that can fill the gap of the huge unexplained mysteries of the universe. They resorted to supernatural causation as explanations of anything that seems complex to them.

Dolemite:


I have no freaking idea

I have no idea how this wonderful creation called earth came to be

Most theists find it difficult to admit their ignorance and most time, out of sheer pride or fear of being wrong, prefer to stick to the "god did it" explanation.

A wise man is one who admits he is a fool

kolajamesjnr:
Dis is a joke rit?

How na.? oya answer. Lmaoo!!

Dolemite:
Am I the only sista atheist on Nairaland?

What informed your atheism