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To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by benzics(m): 5:23pm On Dec 14, 2016 |
It's not new that creationists and some religious people/Deists claim that their "creation" story makes sense more than evolution, and then this begs the question, "do these set of people really have SENSE " . 4evergod created a thread claiming that he has "exposed" evolution, that evolution was a lie and didn't make any sense (where in fact things won't make sense to you if you don't have sense), the thread was full of crap, and he kept asking for evidence, we presented DNA similarities and others, but they kept claiming "that is no evidence"... And one Deepsight came along with his " philosophical logical assumptions " to overule " a study with evidence ", and I kept asking the ignorant fellow," how does sitting in your room and using 'logic' make something a FACT?? ", as usual, he was running round in circles making no sense... Some dumb people also came around though, claiming to know evolution, don't want to mention them, but they sure know themselves. They were consistent in asking for evidence, even when randomperson was providing one, they acted like they didn't see it (like what happens in the video below). And then some **** fellows assumed that you being an atheist, makes you an evolutionist, and were even calling on monikers to come and defend evolution (Chai). Some *** were busy forming autocorrect software (as if English means intelligence) Now, take your time and your little data, and watch the video below, exposing how **** 4evergod and his gang sounded in his "expose" thread. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBHEsEshhLs 13 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Seun(m): 7:20pm On Dec 14, 2016 |
It's amazing how perfectly this describes Nigerian creationists too. They keep repeating the same small collection of discredited arguments. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by 247NewsUpdateNG: 8:46pm On Dec 14, 2016 |
Though what the video depicted about religious folks is true, it still doesn't change much. The day evolution will be globally accepted by religious people (or creationists, as Seun tagged them) is the day scientists/evolutionists accept that a human goes to heaven or hell, after death. However, due to the fact that neither sides may ever cave in to the other, it is best everyone sticks to their respective beliefs. |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Deicide: 8:49pm On Dec 14, 2016 |
247NewsUpdateNG: 1. Science is Not a Belief... 2. How about starting with SEPERATION OF RELIGION FROM GOVT/CONSTITUTION?? 1 Like |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Edenoscar(m): 10:08pm On Dec 14, 2016 |
benzics: rotflmao that was hilarious, examples are promise10 and felixomor 1 Like |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Deicide: 11:13pm On Dec 14, 2016 |
This Video is Funny! 2:47 Mr C : evolution said we evolved from monkeys MR E : no Evolution did'nt say we evolve from mokey it says that we an monkeys shear a common ancestor Mr C : but Evolution said we evolved from monkey Mr E : no it didn't i just explained it just now.. Mr c : Evolution says we Evolve from monkey...... 3 Likes |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by tintingz(m): 11:57pm On Dec 14, 2016 |
Lol, funny video. 1 Like |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Niflheim(m): 6:52am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Imagine a human being asking for evidence of crocodiles and alligators sharing common ancestry!!! What can be worse than that?!!! The sheer weight of the hypocrisy is mind boggling!!!........................................... Victim of dilapidated poultry school: All humans came from Adam and Eve. Advanced Atheist: Really? That's strange!!! Cause the ancient Greeks said the first woman was Pandora, the Chinese mentioned Pangu as the first man, the Scandinavians mentioned Ask and Embla, while the Japanese mentionef Izagami and Izanagi!!! By the way, all crocodiles and alligators share a common ancestor. Victim of dilapidated poultry school: NA LIE!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!! HOW?!!! I NEED EVIDENCE FOR THIS!!! Advanced Atheist: But don't you see the similar forms plus bone structure and semi aquatic nature? Victim of dilapidated poultry school: I SAY NA LIE!!! BRING ZI BONES OF THEIR GREAT GREAT GRAND PAPA WEY DIE MANY YEARS AGO, IF NOT I NO GO BELIEVE!!! 5 Likes |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by hopefulLandlord: 7:08am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Niflheim both of them are wrong!!! the true god Mbombo created everything mbombo 's creation tells that in the beginning, mbombo was alone, and darkness and water covered the all earth. It would happen that mbombo came to feel an intense pain in his stomach, and then mbombo vomited the sun, the moon, and stars. The heat and light from the sun evaporated the water covering the earth, creating clouds, and after time, the dry hills emerged from the water. Then mbombo vomited once more, bringing forth nine animals: the leopard, called Koy Bumba; the eagle, Ponga Bumba; the crocodile, Ganda Bumba; the fish, Yo Bumba; the tortoise, Kono Bumba; a black leopard-like animal, Tsetse Bumba; a white heron, Nyanyi Bumba; a scarab ; and a goat named Budi. mbombo also vomited many men, one of them was called Loko Yima. this is the true creation story I dare anyone who disagree with the perfect narration above to disprove it! No contradiction unlike Yahweh's version 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by damogul: 7:21am On Dec 15, 2016 |
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Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by hopefulLandlord: 7:22am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Niflheim: Hehehehehehehehe evolution kills the Abrahamic god, that's why Abrahamic religion adherents are trying their possible best to refute it if evolution is a "scam" "fraud", the Christian creation story is even much more "scammy" and "faudy" in the sense that it CONTRADICTS ITSELF right in that book there are 2 (Two, yes ii, yes Meji, yes Biu, yes abụọ) totally different creation stories that contradicts right in the first few chapters of their book which one therefore is correct? because both CAN'T be correct! they haven't even put their crumbling house in order but are quick to poke holes in evolution 2 Likes |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Nobody: 7:26am On Dec 15, 2016 |
What a disgraceful lot! An academic thread was created for an intelligent discussion about evolution to be handled as adults here https://www.nairaland.com/3511938/demystifying-evolution-exposing-it-fraud Not one of you could utter anything as advocates of evolution even as the thread is in its 38th page now with 3062 views and 1221 comments. Yet you can all easily gather here to create a thread where you all display your puerility in such a carefree manner which shows that this is actually what you lot are good at. This is where your intelligence ends. It ends in mockery and sham sessions like this. You open a thread talking about how Nigerian creationists think when the thread you wish to counter does not have one single creationist comment on it. Only world renowned and nobel prize winning Biochemists and Physicists who all unanimously slammed evolution and declared it a fraud and a sham display in madness. So how come you all believe in evolution yet are unable to defend it? What then is your basis for believing in it? A lot of you here denied evolution or denied being believers of evolution on my thread but here you all are now in your tailor fitted mockery apparels mocking creationists with your presumed idea of what evolution means to them. How puerile, sub intelligent and cowardly to say the least. Why dont you all use this analogy of yours to disprove the thread you opened this one to mock with? Care to give it a try? https://www.nairaland.com/3511938/demystifying-evolution-exposing-it-fraud 1 Like |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by hopefulLandlord: 7:32am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Long ago, well before there were any people, all life existed in the sky. Olorun lived in the sky, and with Olorun were many orishas. There were both male and female orishas, but Olorun transcended male and female and was the all-powerful supreme being. Olorun and the orishas lived around a young baobab tree. Around the baobab tree the orishas found everything they needed for their lives, and in fact they wore beautiful clothes and gold jewelry. Olorun told them that all the vast sky was theirs to explore. All the orishas save one, however, were content to stay near the baobab tree. Obatala was the curious orisha who wasn't content to live blissfully by the baobab tree. Like all orishas, he had certain powers, and he wanted to put them to use. As he pondered what to do, he looked far down through the mists below the sky. As he looked and looked, he began to realize that there was a vast empty ocean below the mist. Obatala went to Olorun and asked Olorun to let him make something solid in the waters below. That way there could be beings that Obatala and the orishas could help with their powers. Touched by Obatala's desire to do something constructive, Olorun agreed to send Obatala to the watery world below. Obatala then asked Orunmila, the orisha who knows the future, what he should do to prepare for his mission. Orunmila brought out a sacred tray and sprinkled the powder of baobab roots on it. He tossed sixteen palm kernels onto the tray and studied the marks and tracks they made on the powder. He did this eight times, each time carefully observing the patterns. Finally he told Obatala to prepare a chain of gold, and to gather sand, palm nuts, and maize. He also told Obatala to get the sacred egg carrying the personalities of all the orishas. Obatala went to his fellow orishas to ask for their gold, and they all gave him all the gold they had. He took this to the goldsmith, who melted all the jewelry to make the links of the golden chain. When Obatala realized that the goldsmith had made all the gold into links, he had the goldsmith melt a few of them back down to make a hook for the end of the chain. Meanwhile, as Orunmila had told him, Obatala gathered all the sand in the sky and put it in an empty snail shell, and in with it he added a little baobab powder. He put that in his pack, along with palm nuts, maize, and other seeds that he found around the baobab tree. He wrapped the egg in his shirt, close to his chest so that it would be warm during his journey. Obatala hooked the chain into the sky, and he began to climb down the chain. For seven days he went down and down, until finally he reached the end of the chain. He hung at its end, not sure what to do, and he looked and listened for any clue. Finally he heard Orunmila, the seer, calling to him to use the sand. He took the shell from his pack and poured out the sand into the water below. The sand hit the water, and to his surprise it spread and solidified to make a vast land. Still unsure what to do, Obatala hung from the end of the chain until his heart pounded so much that the egg cracked. From it flew Sankofa, the bird bearing the sprits of all the orishas. Like a storm, they blew the sand to make dunes and hills and lowlands, giving it character just as the orishas themselves have character. Finally Obatala let go of the chain and dropped to this new land, which he called "Ife", the place that divides the waters. Soon he began to explore this land, and as he did so he scattered the seeds from his pack, and as he walked the seeds began to grow behind him, so that the land turned green in his wake. After walking a long time, Obatala grew thirsty and stopped at a small pond. As he bent over the water, he saw his reflection and was pleased. He took some clay from the edge of the pond and began to mold it into the shape he had seen in the reflection. He finished that one and began another, and before long he had made many of these bodies from the dark earth at the pond's side. By then he was even thirstier than before, and he took juice from the newly-grown palm trees and it fermented into palm wine. He drank this, and drank some more, and soon he was intoxicated. He returned to his work of making more forms from the edge of the pond, but now he wasn't careful and made some without eyes or some with misshapen limbs. He thought they all were beautiful, although later he realized that he had erred in drinking the wine and vowed to not do so again. Before long, Olorun dispatched Chameleon down the golden chain to check on Obatala's progress. Chameleon reported Obatala's disappointment at making figures that had form but no life. Gathering gasses from the space beyond the sky, Olorun sparked the gasses into an explosion that he shaped into a fireball. He sent that fireball to Ife, where it dried the lands that were still wet and began to bake the clay figures that Obatala had made. The fireball even set the earth to spinning, as it still does today. Olorun then blew his breath across Ife, and Obatala's figures slowly came to life as the first people of Ife. No contradiction!!!!! 4 Likes |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by randomperson: 7:35am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Is it just me or this 4evergod guy seems desperate 2 Likes |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Nobody: 7:38am On Dec 15, 2016 |
randomperson: Is it just me or do you guys actually affirm to being puerile with this thread for mockery rather than intelligent convo? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by hopefulLandlord: 7:38am On Dec 15, 2016 |
randomperson: I already gave the explanation up there evolution refutes bible creation story totally technically, bible refutes Bible's creation story since there are 2 totally different creation stories in that book of theirs |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by hopefulLandlord: 7:50am On Dec 15, 2016 |
I may not have accepted evolution theory but one thing I'm very sure of is that it makes much more sense than the bible creation story and that's a fact! If you believe Genesis 1 is science, you should also believe the sky is domed. Check out Genesis 1:6: “And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters” (KJV). The “firmament” — raqia in Hebrew — is a solid dome. Attempts to argue otherwise aren’t persuasive. If you read Genesis 1 as a scientific description of the world, you get this picture. Genesis 2 then straight up contradicts genesis 1 yet our dear Christians are quick to call the bible inspired by the holy spirit who is not "author of confusion" are you having a laugh? 1 Like |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by 4kings: 8:00am On Dec 15, 2016 |
Can you imagine Benzics you are really calling others "dumb", after making this senseless comment: benzics: SMH 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by benzics(m): 8:15am On Dec 15, 2016 |
4kings:The meaning you read to things are seriously not my business. benzics: Lol.. You might actually think I meant "no scientific fact is logical".. But i actually mean " no scientific fact was made a fact, by sitting in your room and imagining things that are not real, all in the name of logic "... And I thought I mentioned something like that in the paragraph where I called Deepsight? Or you may easily refer me to one scientific fact that came about by just" using logic " instead of study |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Deicide: 11:49am On Dec 15, 2016 |
4kings: Can You please Explain How that Comment Was Senseless? Am waiting please because i seem not to Understand 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by 4kings: 10:31pm On Dec 15, 2016 |
@Benzics and Deicide Here's a definition of the word "logic" : reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity. Now please explain how you can draw scientific(or any reasonable) conclusions without 'logic'. Benzics also said; "logic is only applied when there's no fact or evidence" but as you can see the very definition of 'logic' contradicts his claim. I really don't know why I'm explaining this. 1 Like |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Deicide: 12:00am On Dec 16, 2016 |
Ok |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Nobody: 12:27am On Dec 16, 2016 |
4kings:Actually, the context in which he was making the statement made his answer acceptable. With the right logical postulates, you can prove anything. It was surely "logical" for the ancient ones to believe the earth was flat. Aristotle, one of the world greatest philosophers, believed that All men are not equal and scoffed at democracy. This is one of the earliest forebears of the framework of thinking we now use. Logic might be used as a tool in science but at the end, facts and proofs are needed to drive home your thesis. That, I think, was what he was trying to say. |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by 4kings: 1:26am On Dec 16, 2016 |
SirWere:@bolded I agree. |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by Deicide: 7:48pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
;o |
Re: To All Those Who Claim Evolution Doesn't Make Sense And It's Just A Theory by ScepticalPyrrho: 8:17pm On Oct 06, 2017 |
Very annoying sh!t.... The way they argue blindly. |
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