oaroloye:
SHALOM!

That is not a Miracle.

Guy never bleeped in all his LIFE, nor will he: DAMN STRAIGHT he HEALED a CRIPPLE!

But the REAL MIRACLE is the THOUSANDS of Roman Catholic Priests with the SAME TRAINING, who cannot Heal SHIT!

DeLioncourt:


Help us to explain this nonsense...

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



SIGNS AND WONDERS ALONE do not prove that one is of God.

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you, do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets."
13. "Enter ye in at the Strait Gate:
for Wide is the Gate, and Broad is the Way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because Strait is the Gate, and Narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their Fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every good tree bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a corrupt tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fuit.
19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down, and cast into The Fire.
20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,'
shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven;
but he that doeth The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22. "Many will say to me in That Day,

'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his House upon a Rock:
25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell not: for it was founded upon a Rock.
26. "And every one that heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the Sand:
27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell: and Great was The Fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the People were astonished at his Doctrine:
29. For he Taught them as One having Authority,
and not as the scribes.

DeLioncourt:


What do they prove then? That one is not of God?

dorox:
This a well known and very common type of healing scam,there was no actual healing. The condition of the man did not change before and after the healing. The MOG made the church to believe that the situation of the man was worse than it actually is.

Watch the video for yourself and be the judge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQNi3FrCnmQ

oaroloye:


Obviously, they prove that one should seek God for themselves, and not rely on other people to pray for them.

DeLioncourt:


so if someone offers to pray for you, you will refuse?

appreciate the good works of God manifested through others

and stop looking for conspiracies and diabolical elements where none exist.[/b]

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



I am a BORN AGAIN, FULL-GOSPEL, PENTECOSTAL CHRISTIAN of some 35 years standing.

It would be a DISGRACE upon me, if I should NEED anyone to come and PRAY for ME!

WHY did I get Saved, if I still need somebody to pray for me- even months later, let alone YEARS?

That is BULLSHIT!

Thank you very much for this information- because until NOW, I NEVER got that before!

It was BENEATH ME, to think that supposed ADULTS could be SO UNINTELLIGENT as to BELIEVE that OTHER PEOPLE should be "PRAYING FOR THEM!"

I wondered why it is that supposed Christians should travel CROSS-COUNTRY for ONE MAN to "PRAY FOR THEM!"

It never occurred to me to think that THEY COULD HAVE ACCEPTED TEACHING that they COULD NOT Pray for themselves, but NEEDED someone else to Pray for them- where they would HAVE TO flock there like BRAINLESS CATTLE!

THE FIRST THING I LEARNED after I got Saved (EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN UNION FELLOWSHIP, University of Ife, 1979,) was how to PRAY FOR MYSELF to be Healed. At that time, I WAS DYING of DRUG-RESISTANT CHRONIC MALARIA, and I thought that I might as well try to get Religious in the time I had left.... maybe God might have Mercy on me, and I might not have to go to Hell?

I had NO IDEA that anyone could be BORN AGAIN.

I was BORN AGAIN- it was like I lost a WEIGHT that I had been carrying on my back all my life- that I did not know was there, until it was gone.

However- no one told me about DIVINE HEALING- I learned about that BY ACCIDENT- someone was playing a couple of cassette tape messages:

THE PRAYER OF FAITH, by Benson Idahosa, and THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD, by R.W. Schambach.

THESE TWO MESSAGES SAVED MY LIFE- BECAUSE I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN THE FIVE YEARS I WAS WITH THE FELLOWSHIP!

It was not until YEARS LATER, that I learned that EVANGELICAL CHURCHES OPPOSE DIVINE HEALING.

They would PREFER that you DIE than allow you to HEAR that it is your COVENANT RIGHT to be HEALED!


I never knew that there was any such thing as THE BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE, nor HOLY GHOST BAPTISM, until I went to that Fellowship.

Yet their LEADERS did not Believe in them.

Even because this is how ROMAN CATHOLICISM controls PROTESTANT Christianity this whole time.

I LEARNED BY EXPERIENCE THAT THESE PEOPLE'S PRAYERS WERE USELESS.

They could not even pray for THEMSELVES- how could they pray for anyone else?




IS THAT WHAT YAHSHUA TAUGHT?

To respect a few "GOOD WORKS," and IGNORE even "MINOR" Commandments infringements?

. MATTHEW 5:1-20.

AND seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain:
and when he was set, his Disciples came unto him:
2. And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,
3. "Blessed are the poor in spirit:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
4. "Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5. "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the Earth.
6. "Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after Righteousness:
for they shall be filled.
7. "Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
8. "Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
9. "Blessed are the Peacemakers:
for they shall be called The Children of God.
10. "Blessed are they which are persecuted
for righteousness' sake:
for theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.
11. "Blessed are ye, when men
shall revile you, and persecute you,
and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely,
for my sake.
12. "Rejoice, and be exceeding glad:
for Great is your Reward in Heaven:
for so persecuted they the Prophets
which were before you.
13. "Ye are the Salt of the Earth:
but if the salt have lost his savour,
wherewith shall it be salted?
it is thenceforth good for nothing,
but to be cast out,
and to be trodden under foot of men.
14. "Ye are the Light of the World.
A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
15. "Neither do men light a candle,
and put it under a bushel,
but on a candlestick; and it giveth light
unto all that are in the house.
16. “Let your light so shine before men,
that they may see your Good Works,
and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law, or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I say unto you,

'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE
SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'

19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one
of these Least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called
The Least in The Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do and Teach (Them),
the same shall be called Great
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I say unto you,

'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "

A Christian who breaks ONE of Yahshua's LEAST Commandments becomes THE LEAST in The Kingdom of Heaven.

When I have asked Hypocrites who the LEAST in any Kingdom are, I have gotten foolish answers.

The LEAST in ANY Kingdom are THOSE WITHOUT RIGHTS- as in CONVICTED CRIMINALS on DEATH ROW!

. MATTHEW 23:1-15.

THEN spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,
2. Saying,
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do; but do not ye after their works:
for they say, and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works they do
for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master, even Christ;
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father, Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master, even Christ.
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land to make one proselyte,
and when he is made, ye make him
twofold more the Child of Hell than yourselves."

THERE ARE DIABOLICAL ELEMENTS IN THE CHURCHES, AND A CONSPIRACY AMONG FOOLS LIKE YOURSELF TO PRETEND THAT IT IS NOT HAPPENING.

Teaching Christians to need other people to pray for them is an ABOMINATION.

. MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you, do ye even so to them:
for this is The Law and The Prophets."
13. "Enter ye in at the Strait Gate:
for Wide is the Gate, and Broad is the Way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be which go in thereat:
14. "Because Strait is the Gate, and Narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their Fruits.
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every good tree bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a corrupt tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fuit.
19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down, and cast into The Fire.
20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,'
shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven;
but he that doeth The Will of my Father Which is in Heaven.
22. "Many will say to me in That Day,

'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them,
I will liken him unto a Wise Man,
which built his House upon a Rock:
25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell not: for it was founded upon a Rock.
26. "And every one that heareth
these Sayings of mine, and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto a Foolish Man,
which built his house upon the Sand:
27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came,
and the winds blew, and beat upon that House;
and it Fell: and Great was The Fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had ended these Sayings,
the People were astonished at his Doctrine:
29. For he Taught them as One having Authority,
and not as the scribes.

THE CHRISTIANS WHOM YAHSHUA SENT TO HELL HAD GOOD WORKS TO BOAST OF- BUT THE LORD DID NOT RECOGNIZE THEM.

The CREDIT for such Works- when REAL- goes to the TEN TALENT/TEN POUNDS Winners.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matthew 25:1-46.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

. THE TEN POUNDS OF DOMINION. (Luke 19:11-27.)

1. THE ABOVE; 2. THE BELOW;
3. THE EARTH; 4. THE NETHER REALMS;
5. FIRE; 6.WATER;
7. THE LOUD; 8. THE SILENT;
9. THE MOVING; 10. THE STATIONARY.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]



It is very arrogant and rude of you, just to tell me what do do.

It is doubly so to tell me to do something contrary to Yahshua's Teachings.

It is trebly so, to tell me something that is a LIE.

THERE HAVE BEEN CONSPIRACIES IN CHRISTIANITY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

The Conspiracy of the DUNDEE UNITED Disciples to WITHHOLD Yahshua's Teachings from the Early Church (Luke 9:51-5; Acts 5:1-11).

Then the Conspiracy of the Hebrew Christians to withhold THE LAW OF GOD from the GENTILE CHRISTIANS- deceitfully telling them: "THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE... MOVE ALONG-!" (Acts 15:1-31.)

There are CONSPIRACIES NOW- to UNITE all RELIGIONS and ALL CHURCHES under THE FALSE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

. REVELATIONS 17:1-9.

AND there came one of the seven Angels
which had the seven vials,
and talked with me,
saying unto me,
“Come hither; I will shew unto thee
The Judgment of the Great LovePeddler
that sitteth upon many waters:
2. With whom the kings of the Earth
have committed fornication,
and the Inhabitants of the Earth
have been made drunk
with the Wine of her Fornication.
3. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness:
and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour,
and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls,
having a golden cup in her hand
full of Abominations and filthiness of her Fornication:
5. And upon her forehead was a name written,

"MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

6. And I saw the woman drunken with the Blood of the Saints,
and with the Blood of the Martyrs of Jesus:
and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7. And the Angel said unto me,
"Wherefore didst thou marvel?
I will tell thee the mystery of the woman,
and of the beast that carrieth her,
which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8. "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not;
and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition:
and they that dwell on the Earth shall wonder,
whose names were not written in The Book of Life
from The Foundation of the World,
when they behold the Beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9. "And here is the mind which hath Wisdom.

'THE SEVEN HEADS ARE SEVEN MOUNTAINS,
ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITTETH.' "

THE ONLY PEOPLE THIS PROPHECY FITS ARE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH!

We know that they have more than they need to start slaughtering Protestantism already.

After the RAIN of WORLD WAR II, I suppose they will want to try for OVERKILL, this time?