bidexiii:
WATCH BHT ATTACK ON MILITARY BASE IN BOSSO , NIGER REPUBLIC.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gta4w4GjoTM

Henry240:


Stop been an alarmist. Niger moved those assets down because of the terror attacks in Bosso. NAF doesn't need to re-arm because of Niger, an irrelevant country with 2 SU-25 aircrafts.

M14A1:


Excellent pair of balls(preferably steel coated in Ethiopia)

nemesis2u:


lol

first priority is to take out the technicals.
militarily BH entire center of gravity seems to be around the utilization of these technicals.

high time somebody gave a serious thought to tackling these technicals.

my idea / suggestion

1.road spikes especially designed and fitted with anti handling features i.e f**king attach proximity/ motion sensitive IEDs to these spikes designed to go off if somebody tries to remove/ approach them. beat the freaking terrorist in their own game with their own weapons.

the IED attached to the spike should be such that it cannot be recycled/reused.

camouflaged IED treated road spikes can be placed all around the base upto the external perimeter, another plus point any one of them going off will trip , alert the base defenses. plus hamper the technicals mobility.

2.remote controlled explosives with anti handling features placed at approach points , these can be high explosive, smoke , phosphorous, napalm based. any technical in close vicinity of such devices can be blown off remotely.

3. develop mortar artillery based cargo rounds filled with tyre puncturing spikes, any such round fired in air burst mode over approaching technicals will stop them.

4.fill the trenches with oil and other available smoke producing substances which can be set on fire to disrupt visibility for the technicals and deny them targets, do this only if you have immunity from the smoke screen only and the capability to hit the technicals through the same smoke screen .

5. low cost long range upto 2-3 km fire and forget ATGM to take out the technicals.

others plz add if you have any

@bidexiii what say you?

SergeAlain:
There is also the option the NA seems to be using now i.e. outgun them by mounting similar calibre guns on your trucks and defended points. In the early days of hostilities, the NA used mainly GPMGs and a few browning 50cals. These tended to come up short against the technicals which typically mounted 12.7mm Dhsks or 14.5mm HMGs. Thus the technicals could stand off and saturate the Nigerian locations with heavy fire, and most of the time the NA could not respond.

Today virtually all NA vehicles mount 12.7mm HMGs, and the T72s' main guns are accurate enough to take out the technicals at any range.

chinese8107:




agree trenchs are needed
but if they don't have time to build or simply a temporary base
scout unit like scout cars（or simply toyota)patrolling around and snipers hidden in crutial positons will not cost much

if helicoper or scout car is expensive http://www.flir.cn/suas/content/?id=73063 then this toy cost only a second hand toyota. can provide at least 10 km air scout.

if enemy spotted 10kms away you have enough time to respond wether defend calling for reinforcement or retreat

nemesis2u:
@all there are SOPs which should be followed to allow successful base defense.
business, this is my personal guarantee since i worked with them.

nemesis2u:


lol

first priority is to take out the technicals.
militarily BH entire center of gravity seems to be around the utilization of these technicals.

high time somebody gave a serious thought to tackling these technicals.

my idea / suggestion

1.road spikes especially designed and fitted with anti handling features i.e f**king attach proximity/ motion sensitive IEDs to these spikes designed to go off if somebody tries to remove/ approach them. beat the freaking terrorist in their own game with their own weapons.

the IED attached to the spike should be such that it cannot be recycled/reused.

camouflaged IED treated road spikes can be placed all around the base upto the external perimeter, another plus point any one of them going off will trip , alert the base defenses. plus hamper the technicals mobility.

during a BH assault even if 30% of the technicals are immobilized due to this, especially at the start of the assault the momentum is seriously broken and the attack will fail provided the defenders provide resistance.

2.remote controlled explosives with anti handling features placed at approach points , these can be high explosive, smoke , phosphorous, napalm based. any technical in close vicinity of such devices can be blown off remotely.

3. develop mortar artillery based cargo rounds filled with tyre puncturing spikes, any such round fired in air burst mode over approaching technicals will stop them.

4.fill the trenches with oil and other available smoke producing substances which can be set on fire to disrupt visibility for the technicals and deny them targets, do this only if you have immunity from the smoke screen only and the capability to hit the technicals through the same smoke screen .

5. low cost long range upto 2-3 km fire and forget ATGM to take out the technicals.

others plz add if you have any

@bidexiii what say you?

bidexiii:



You are right when Baga and gwazo was overran BHT then there where many factors responsible for that? The army was badly equipped. No t72s, BMP's and morale was too low then...!

And even during the advent of new equipment, BHT still overran some base. But my point his not these time when BHT as being degraded totally, it's like we are going front and backward's. The amount of weapons and vehicle captured his enough to sustain BH operations.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3682464/Boko-Haram-kills-7-northeast-Nigeria-residents.html


Did u watch the video...? I don't think we lost that much in Baga and gwazo.......!

Henry240:


I watched the Gwoza and Baga propaganda videos. The terrorist took N.A Shilka, Vickers MBTs, LAVs, Toyota's and large & small caliber ammo.


That's the truth, we keep going back and forth with the terrorists it doesn't seem to end. We should be prepared for a massive attack on one of our bases, i'm sure it's coming.

nemesis2u:


yes true
but the T72s numbers are low to cover every place.
u need it in hundreds to make it count.

nemesis2u:


lol

first priority is to take out the technicals.
militarily BH entire center of gravity seems to be around the utilization of these technicals.

high time somebody gave a serious thought to tackling these technicals.

my idea / suggestion

1.road spikes especially designed and fitted with anti handling features i.e f**king attach proximity/ motion sensitive IEDs to these spikes designed to go off if somebody tries to remove/ approach them. beat the freaking terrorist in their own game with their own weapons.

the IED attached to the spike should be such that it cannot be recycled/reused.

camouflaged IED treated road spikes can be placed all around the base upto the external perimeter, another plus point any one of them going off will trip , alert the base defenses. plus hamper the technicals mobility.

during a BH assault even if 30% of the technicals are immobilized due to this, especially at the start of the assault the momentum is seriously broken and the attack will fail provided the defenders provide resistance.

2.remote controlled explosives with anti handling features placed at approach points , these can be high explosive, smoke , phosphorous, napalm based. any technical in close vicinity of such devices can be blown off remotely.

3. develop mortar artillery based cargo rounds filled with tyre puncturing spikes, any such round fired in air burst mode over approaching technicals will stop them.

4.fill the trenches with oil and other available smoke producing substances which can be set on fire to disrupt visibility for the technicals and deny them targets, do this only if you have immunity from the smoke screen only and the capability to hit the technicals through the same smoke screen .

5. low cost long range upto 2-3 km fire and forget ATGM to take out the technicals.

others plz add if you have any

@bidexiii what say you?

Katyusha:
I just watched the video..Here are my conclusions:
1. Boko Haram is far from being defeated. It can still mount large-scale attacks at will.
2. BH still has hundreds of battle-hardened foot soldiers on standby.
3. BH is still well-equipped with large reserves of AK-47s and AAAs like Dshks.
4. BH's Technicals are basically ex-N.A vehicles.

Katyusha:
I just watched the video..Here are my conclusions:
1. Boko Haram is far from being defeated. It can still mount large-scale attacks at will.
2. BH still has hundreds of battle-hardened foot soldiers on standby.
3. BH is still well-equipped with large reserves of AK-47s and AAAs like Dshks.
4. BH's Technicals are basically ex-N.A vehicles.

Henry240:


You've laid it all out. Typical Lachit style.

Henry240:



1, Those terrorists with poor fire discipline cannot fight, i can't seem to phantom why, apart from overwhelming numbers of marauders they over-run military bases.


2, The bases that keep getting over-run have APCs, 14.5mm and heavy caliber weapons. A bunch of goons running around with AKs shouldn't ordinarily be too much of a problem.


3, We seriously need to consider putting trackers on our Hilux vehicles.

Henry240:



1, Those terrorists with poor fire discipline cannot fight, i can't seem to phantom why, apart from overwhelming numbers of marauders they over-run military bases.


2, The bases that keep getting over-run have APCs, 14.5mm and heavy caliber weapons. A bunch of goons running around with AKs shouldn't ordinarily be too much of a problem.


3, We seriously need to consider putting trackers on our Hilux vehicles.

bidexiii:


Honestly that's a good idea u av here, so they don't use the same vehicles to lunch attacks else where. Paraventure they are captured they might be tracked and destroyed or recaptured back.

bidexiii:


Honestly that's a good idea u av here, so they don't use the same vehicles to lunch attacks else where. Paraventure they are captured they might be tracked and destroyed or recaptured back.

SergeAlain:
My brother e no easy like that o.
With the element of surprise on their side, and those technicals. First the attack would probably be just before first light, thus the enemy can advance to within 2km without being noticed. From 2 km those technicals can drench the target area with 12.7mm shells. With this even troops attempting to take up battle stations upon waking from sleep would be pinned down.

This would limit the effective opposing fire the BH would face to those from the sentries or those on night duty. These would more easily be over run or plastered by the technicals. Thus the BH infantry can approach the very edge of the target before the technicals seize fire (to avoid killing their own men). Before the men pinned down (if the survive the body armour shredding 12.7mm shells) can get to their feet, the on rushing BH rifle men would be in their midst in numbers.

Checkmate!!!

M14A1:

-Good old Chinese AGL

- .416 Barrett / .50BMG anti material rifle to bounce them technicals around

SergeAlain:
My brother e no easy like that o.
With the element of surprise on their side, and those technicals. First the attack would probably be just before first light, thus the enemy can advance to within 2km without being noticed. From 2 km those technicals can drench the target area with 12.7mm shells. With this even troops attempting to take up battle stations upon waking from sleep would be pinned down.

This would limit the effective opposing fire the BH would face to those from the sentries or those on night duty. These would more easily be over run or plastered by the technicals. Thus the BH infantry can approach the very edge of the target before the technicals seize fire (to avoid killing their own men). Before the men pinned down (if the survive the body armour shredding 12.7mm shells) can get to their feet, the on rushing BH rifle men would be in their midst in numbers.

Checkmate!!!

Litmus:
Hmmm, will Bokoharam ever be defeated in Niger, Chad or Cameroon even if defeated in Nigeria? So Nigeria really need to be prepared militarily for a reinvigorated Bokoharam. West Africans nations not currently involved in this conflict will be vulnerable to a Bokoharam hardened by engaging Nigeria in battle for so long. They need to start thinking seriously of modernizing their armies.

chinese8107:




agree trenchs are needed
but if they don't have time to build or simply a temporary base
scout unit like scout cars（or simply toyota)patrolling around and snipers hidden in crutial positons will not cost much

if helicoper or scout car is expensive http://www.flir.cn/suas/content/?id=73063 then this toy cost only a second hand toyota. can provide at least 10 km air scout.

if enemy spotted 10kms away you have enough time to respond wether defend calling for reinforcement or retreat

SergeAlain:
no mind me my brother i no know say na only two them get.

I just dont trust the francophones. Dont forget how they delighted in kicking us when things were not going well.

Nigerian Forces are in Niger.
Two Nigerian Soldiers died in the Bosso Attack.
NAF routinely fly over Niger.
@Some point Nigerians will need to stop the paranoia about France .

donstefano8:
I doubt if that bolded toy can deliver 10km realtime footage to base, but a scout armed with the toy could have radioed in enemy position and artilleries would have done serious damage before approaching the base. So long as the nations involved in this fight against BH refuse to adapt to the use of basic tech, we are going to keep losing men un-necessarily.
Did anyone notice that BHT convoys attacked the base with headlamps turned off? They used the cover of dawn to carry out their attack, that is basic hunting skill and the base was caught napping.

The arms captured is more than enough to prolong the war. I doubt if BH would attack another base with all that weapon. They will definitely spread the weapons within the cells across the length and breadth of that region to cause more extensive damage. The earlier the MNJTF mobilise serious air support to destroy the Shikas and heavy artilleries the better. By the way, what is Shiika anti aircraft weapon doing in that base? Does BH own aircrafts?

Henry240:



1, Those terrorists with poor fire discipline cannot fight, i can't seem to phantom why, apart from overwhelming numbers of marauders they over-run military bases.

Katyusha:
I concur...The virgin-hunters were like sheep without a sh ;Depherd..No coordination, no nothing. But, of what use is. coordination when you have enough firepower to drench a base with 12.7mm and 14.5mm shells? I have TONs of military documentaries on my laptop including many series on the war in Afghanistan, and ill tell you, even a USMC F.O.B would not have survived that attack without Apache support.

The cache BH siezed from that base is nothing compared to the booty at the MNJTF base at Baga. I have the vid of the attack, and there were clips of smiling insurgents emptying entire rooms filled with ammunition, artillery shells (to be used for I.E.Ds), rifles and even mortars. It was a disaster, so ill forgive the Nigeriens.

Someone praised the use of trenches by the N.A troops. But the truth is, sitting in a trench and returning fire against swarms of Dshk-armed technicals, is suicide. No ballistic vest can stop 12.7mm shells. The vest will be diced like onions in a blender. Hence the reason why the term "bullet-proof vest" irritates me so much.

The MNJTF should invest in Hesco bastions similar to the ones employed by the AMISOM forces in Somalia...Layers and Layers of barriers all well manned.

But the question that remains on my mind is, would that base have been overrun if the Nigeriens could have laid down accurate mortar fire?

bidexiii:


@katyusha you said it all but u spoilt it with ;"accurate mortar fire".........

When u av a 12.7 & 14.5mm she'll blazing from all directions. Mortar for his not a effective CION weapon. A mortar can only be effective if ur base is well fortified/protected i.e Hesco bastions or stalked sand bags