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| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by jessymore70: 10:20am On Apr 11, 2015 |
I hv to talk now. Lagos is no man's land as far as am concin. If u go to the MAP of Nigeria, u will see dat Lagos is outside de map, shows dat u guys hv no were in dis country. Igbos will vote fo jk go hit transformer if u don't like it. Wat nonsense is dis? Igbos are giant of NIGERIA 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by OdenigboAroli2: 10:20am On Apr 11, 2015 |
annie7:Ojukwu must be laughing hysterically in his grave right now, what he failed to achieve with guns is falling into his children hands with peace. 2 Likes |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by FatherAbrahamm: 10:20am On Apr 11, 2015 |
A few days ago, the Oba of Lagos threatened Igbo leaders. If they did not vote for his governorship candidate in Lagos, he said, they would be thrown into the lagoon. His entire speech was a flagrant performance of disregard. His words said, in effect: I think so little of you that I don’t have to cajole you but will just threaten you and, by the way, your safety in Lagos is not assured, it is negotiable. There have been condemnations of the Oba’s words. Sadly, many of the condemnations from non-Igbo people have come with the ugly impatience of expressions like ‘move on,’ and ‘don’t be over-emotional’ and ‘calm down.’ These take away the power, even the sincerity, of the condemnations. It is highhanded and offensive to tell an aggrieved person how to feel, or how quickly to forgive, just as an apology becomes a non-apology when it comes with ‘now get over it.’ Other condemnations of the Oba’s words have been couched in dismissive or diminishing language such as ‘The Oba can’t really do anything, he isn’t actually going to kill anyone. He was joking. He was just being a loudmouth.’ Or – the basest yet – ‘we are all prejudiced.’ It is dishonest to respond to a specific act of prejudice by ignoring that act and instead stressing the generic and the general. It is similar to responding to a specific crime by saying ‘we are all capable of crime.’ Indeed we are. But responses such as these are diversionary tactics. They dismiss the specific act, diminish its importance, and ultimately aim at silencing the legitimate fears of people. We are indeed all prejudiced, but that is not an appropriate response to an issue this serious. The Oba is not an ordinary citizen. He is a traditional ruler in a part of a country where traditional rulers command considerable influence – the reluctance on the part of many to directly chastise the Oba speaks to his power. The Oba’s words matter. He is not a singular voice; he represents traditional authority. The Oba’s words matter because they are enough to incite violence in a political setting already fraught with uncertainty. The Oba’s words matter even more in the event that Ambode loses the governorship election, because it would then be easy to scapegoat Igbo people and hold them punishable. Nigerians who consider themselves enlightened might dismiss the Oba’s words as illogical. But the scapegoating of groups – which has a long history all over the world – has never been about logic. The Oba’s words matter because they bring worrying echoes of the early 1960s in Nigeria, when Igbo people were scapegoated for political reasons. Chinua Achebe, when he finally accepted that Lagos, the city he called home, was unsafe for him because he was Igbo, saw crowds at the motor park taunting Igbo people as they boarded buses: ‘Go, Igbo, go so that garri will be cheaper in Lagos!’ Of course Igbo people were not responsible for the cost of garri. But they were perceived as people who were responsible for a coup and who were ‘taking over’ and who, consequently, could be held responsible for everything bad. Any group of people would understandably be troubled by a threat such as the Oba’s, but the Igbo, because of their history in Nigeria, have been particularly troubled. And it is a recent history. There are people alive today who were publicly attacked in cosmopolitan Lagos in the 1960s because they were Igbo. Even people who were merely light-skinned were at risk of violence in Lagos markets, because to be light-skinned was to be mistaken for Igbo. Almost every Nigerian ethnic group has a grouse of some sort with the Nigerian state. The Nigerian state has, by turns, been violent, unfair, neglectful, of different parts of the country. Almost every ethnic group has derogatory stereotypes attached to it by other ethnic groups. But it is disingenuous to suggest that the experience of every ethnic group has been the same. Anti-Igbo violence began under the British colonial government, with complex roots and manifestations. But the end result is a certain psychic difference in the relationship of Igbo people to the Nigerian state. To be Igbo in Nigeria is constantly to be suspect; your national patriotism is never taken as the norm, you are continually expected to prove it. All groups are conditioned by their specific histories. Perhaps another ethnic group would have reacted with less concern to the Oba’s threat, because that ethnic group would not be conditioned by a history of being targets of violence, as the Igbo have been. Many responses to the Oba’s threat have mentioned the ‘welcoming’ nature of Lagos, and have made comparisons between Lagos and southeastern towns like Onitsha. It is valid to debate the ethnic diversity of different parts of Nigeria, to compare, for example, Ibadan and Enugu, Ado-Ekiti and Aba, and to debate who moves where, and who feels comfortable living where and why that is. But it is odd to pretend that Lagos is like any other city in Nigeria. It is not. The political history of Lagos and its development as the first national capital set it apart. Lagos is Nigeria’s metropolis. There are ethnic Igbo people whose entire lives have been spent in Lagos, who have little or no ties to the southeast, who speak Yoruba better than Igbo. Should they, too, be reminded to be ‘grateful’ each time an election draws near?[color=#990000][/color] No law-abiding Nigerian should be expected to show gratitude for living peacefully in any part of Nigeria. Landlords in Lagos should not, as still happens too often, be able to refuse to rent their property to Igbo people. The Oba’s words were disturbing, but its context is even more disturbing: The anti-Igbo rhetoric that has been part of the political discourse since the presidential election results. Accusatory and derogatory language – using words like ‘brainwashed,’ ‘tribalistic voting’ – has been used to describe President Jonathan’s overwhelming win in the southeast. All democracies have regions that vote in large numbers for one side, and even though parts of Northern Nigeria showed voting patterns similar to the Southeast, the opprobrium has been reserved for the Southeast. But the rhetoric is about more than mere voting. It is really about citizenship. To be so entitled as to question the legitimacy of a people’s choice in a democratic election is not only a sign of disrespect but is also a questioning of the full citizenship of those people. What does it mean to be a Nigerian citizen? When Igbo people are urged to be ‘grateful’ for being in Lagos, do they somehow have less of a right as citizens to live where they live? Every Nigerian should be able to live in any part of Nigeria. The only expectation for a Nigerian citizen living in any part of Nigeria is to be law-abiding. Not to be ‘grateful.’ Not to be expected to pay back some sort of unspoken favour by toeing a particular political line. Nigerian citizens can vote for whomever they choose, and should never be expected to justify or apologize for their choice. Only by feeling a collective sense of ownership of Nigeria can we start to forge a nation. A nation is an idea. Nigeria is still in progress. To make this a nation, we must collectively agree on what citizenship means: all Nigerians must matter equally. Source: www.olisa.tv/2015/04/10/chimamanda-adichieoba-lagos/ 2 Likes |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by holatin(m): 10:20am On Apr 11, 2015 |
yetunsbay:Tanx jare |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by norriswood(m): 10:21am On Apr 11, 2015 |
This ibo people are just nuisance,can you do all this rubbish you are doing in kano or kaduna,why all the noise,ibo are disgrace to this country,they ve tarnished the image of this country every where you see them let them go and create their biafra country. 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by Nobody: 10:21am On Apr 11, 2015 |
masseratti: Who is Mr Akiolu that he can not be criticised especially with that silly threats which you patronising dishonest bunch are calling jokes? This man is oba to Lagosians, he is not the oba of Nigeria. Obj was made fun of, caricatured and compared to apes, he laughed it off. Jonathan and his wife were abused, swore at and called as sorts of names ranging from..clueless to illiterate but heaven did not fall. Both Obj and GEJ were president to nearly 200m citizens of Nigeria with different obas, Ezes, Emirs and other Chiefs. Heaven didn't fall when these men were turned to comic reliefs even when they haven't done anything to warrants the insults. Can you compare your oba of Lagos to these men? This man had contributed to the reason why some police men wear flip flop on duty, torn uniform, faded shirts and rusty weapons, if he wasn't oba today, what would he be doing? Why couldnt he act like a wise elder and control his emotions and utterances. You people respond as if there was a sort of coup de tat or conspiracy to dethrone him. Who is oba of Lagos that people should keep quiet when he says nonsense?you threaten people with death and guys are calling it jokes? Some phhools are talking about burning properties , looting and killing as if that would solve the problem. Why don't you people leave the Igbos alone and face your problems. Anybody looking for a fight should go to Kwara state and put an everlasting end to the incessant rampages of fulani herdsmen. 4 Likes |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by ThisMeansWAR: 10:21am On Apr 11, 2015 |
OdenigboAroli2:yes... Innocent unsuspecting individuals... Just imagine the number of people fake drugs alone have killed. |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by Idrismusty97(m): 10:21am On Apr 11, 2015 |
IGBOSON1:  1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by ayusco85(m): 10:21am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Richiy: Wateva. The igbos are feelin too important lately |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by Waspy(m): 10:21am On Apr 11, 2015 |
fireforfire:You are right in a way...These pple you mentioned shld take it upon themselves to always distinguish themselves from the Ibos. A lot of times, Ibos refer to these pple as part of them and just few refute the claim. The claim that Ibos are up to 40% in Lagos is with the fact that they considered some other tribes like you mentioned above along with them. |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by Dinirojones(m): 10:21am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Most reasonable comment in dis thread so far...respect boss" CHM11: |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by bomijuwon(m): 10:22am On Apr 11, 2015 |
EggovinMma:There are large concentration of Igbo in Kano and Kaduna, let them tried this sort of de stabilisation there or insult their Emir and we all wait to see the outcome. Please go through history and learn. 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by jomoh: 10:22am On Apr 11, 2015 |
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| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by Nobody: 10:22am On Apr 11, 2015 |
mobuch:yet all the land belong to yorubas, why do you think when Sanusi became Emir, he was untouchable...GEJ can do nathing, and you guys did not develop Lagos, y'all just came here to survive...that's the blunt truth. 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by OperationIgrigi: 10:23am On Apr 11, 2015 |
**grins** If the so-called yorubas cannot pick up arms and pull out of Nigeria, then they are just blowing hot air. Lagos was developed with palm proceeds from the east, groundnut proceeds from the north and Oil proceeds from the SS(which also have large indigenous Igbo population). The yorubas can not reap where they did not sow. Majority of workers in NNPC and Chevron are yorubas who got there because of yoruba post-war and unjust administrative influence of the likes of kupolokun and others. If yorubas want non-indigenes to leave lagos, it is very achievable but.. 1. They must declare an independent country from Nigeria. They can't eat their cake and have it. (ie They can't drink peoples oil and still keep FG developed Lagos to themselves.) 2. Severe themselves from the oil proceeds they get from regions belonging to "strangers". No cup-in-hand oil allocation for them.States like oyo produce nothing but beggars and motor psrk touts but collect one of the highest allocations. 3. Start building a border post at Ore with immediate effect, infact odua diaspora can fund that. 4. Recall all their indigenes schooling and working in oil coys and banks in the East. Including their herbal drink sellers. 5. Otedola, Mike Adenuga, Alakija and their oil billionaires and oil well owners must relinquish their Oil wells and Oil Mining Licenses. 6. Publicly burn and denounce the Constitution of Nigeria that guarantees every Nigerian equal rights. Until they meet these very achievable condition these guys should channel their noisemaking and energy in donating toilet facilities for their families in oyo, osun and kwara. It's more pertinent. 5 Likes |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by Nobody: 10:23am On Apr 11, 2015 |
adorable29: oloribuku, abeg shut up. You are proudly 'Niger Delta' but you jump on all Igbo thread with victim mentality, crying like a biafra refugee. who is fooling who? otu nne gi and onye oshi.  you're ashamed of being ibo, useless olosho. what did you refugees build in the city apart from turn it to the overpopulated, crime invested nuisance that it's today? you can't even build ur own region and ordinary abokis in kano just erected something ibos won't be able to achieve in a lifetime. the joke is on you lazy refugee bastards. always bleating everywhere like a goat and chest beating like fools. Otu nne gi again,Onye nzuzu and ewu Somalia. mechionu gi, foolish mgbeke. 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by tete7000(m): 10:23am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Where are the moderators. Thread like this ought not be allowed to linger. It ought to have been closed! |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by OdenigboAroli2: 10:24am On Apr 11, 2015 |
ThisMeansWAR:ewu, there are a particular ppl always looking out for cheap articles |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by ernecy(m): 10:24am On Apr 11, 2015 |
kastonkastrol:he who brought ant infested wood, should be ready to welcome lizard as visitors. Pls don't denial the truth, Oba made a wrong statement. Lagos belong to the Yorubas, nobody shud dispute that fact, whether we all like it or not we are all strangers in Lagos as long as u are a non-indigene. But bros how will u feel, if you come to my house to pay me a courtesy visit, and I decide to make death threat over issues that are not under my jurisdiction. Bcuz u re yoruba doesn't justify the action/comment of the Oba of Lagos. Let's be objective and non sentimental about our judgement. Secondly, this issue shud be buried, it's been viral for long. Thirdly, make sure say  you go vote o. Cheers |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by guideman: 10:24am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Please tell Nigerians how the Igbos have become a problem in Lagos. They are not the only tribe residing in Lagos. Tell Nigerians the truth about what happened especially those living outside Lagos and stop whipping ethnic sentiments which you are noted for. jomoh: |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by omortoyosi01(m): 10:24am On Apr 11, 2015 |
david2:nonsense fellow talking to an oba like d@ 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by anigold(m): 10:24am On Apr 11, 2015 |
hazyfm: Igbos are busy developing other peoples state. I believe charity begins at home.. |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by Nobody: 10:24am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Ilekeh: If these are all u think ibo business men do in nigeria, despite the abundant popular companies we own in nigeria, then am sorry to say that, sir, you are an idioot |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by connkg(m): 10:25am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Clearly, the following aren't clear: 1. "Eze Ndigbo" is head of Igbos in that area. The article made "Eze" a head of people in Lagos 2. Ndigbo do not have unitary kings. There is no "Oduduwa" or Sultan, Ooni. They are republican 3. The Oba addressed Ndigbo, not Yoruba -who could understand his mannerisms 4. The Igbo are in Lagos for commerce. Lagos held the only sea and air ports in the entire Southern Nigeria. The comments on "support" given is undefined. They are not in the civil service. Ibadan had the first University by proximity. 5. The Oba may have had issues with "no man's land" and all, but he made this comment on a political stance. It involved a group. It involved death in days, whether possible or not. In other people's culture, that was not a joke. Recommendation: it is the people who should be reached directly. The Ndigbo do not have a unitary ruler, so, not even those invited, who heard it first-hand can help. Someone, perhaps a South-eastern 1st class chief. Urgently, before the people crown a "leader" for this task. |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by omortoyosi01(m): 10:25am On Apr 11, 2015 |
You are free to return home. We Yoruba are not causing disruption in your homeland; you have no right to continue to cause disruption in our homeland. 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by ThisMeansWAR: 10:25am On Apr 11, 2015 |
OdenigboAroli2:really? Typical ibo man. |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by ayoman: 10:25am On Apr 11, 2015 |
How many yoruba councillors do we have in the entire southeast? Is it possible for yorubaman to buy just 1 foot of land where u come from? U must stop demanding rights of others when you do not offer same. EroticAngelina: 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by lastmessenger: 10:25am On Apr 11, 2015 |
TIANDTI:There is nt gonna be any war but even if there war start, we would defeat you guys within 48 hours |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by REALODUA: 10:25am On Apr 11, 2015 |
Idrismusty97:looks like my ibo neighbours son exactly . Big head , empty brain ! 1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by Judek2(m): 10:25am On Apr 11, 2015 |
omokab: Some demented fellas speaking through their anus. You open mouth and throw words like shit from a$$. Ure poo is even louder than your words, so shut your mouth or risk biting your tongue. |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by OdenigboAroli2: 10:25am On Apr 11, 2015 |
ayusco85:they are important, so important that the oba of lagos is throwing tantrums like a nursery school kid for their votes  1 Like |
| Re: ‘enough Of Igbo Disruption In Lagos’ - Yorubas Outside Nigeria Speak by boynigeria(m): 10:26am On Apr 11, 2015 |
jessymore70:Igbo pepl....b takin Lagos election all P...dnt go to Umukoro or aba and vote...stay dia and b developin anoda Man's Land...we won't evn say thnk u... |
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