theAtheist101:


1. God created everything in under six days, claims the Jewish Bible.

2. So how did he take Adam's rib? Your stated that he took one of Adam's ribs, when Adam was sleeping. So Adam should be one short of Eve.
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3. And yet he hardens Pharaoh's heart? That is racism.

1. Yes, everything - Arrangement of the elements, animals, plants were done in 6 days but before then, the earth (Gen 1:2) was without form and void but was in existence for, only God knows how long b4 creation, that lasted 6 days, started. 2. Not when the act was carried out by the Creator Who could've replaced the rib taken.. While on earth Jesus did similar creative miracles too and even today He still does. 3. This has been answered by a previous post.

Scholar8200:

GOD is the Eternal,Self - Existent One. Well, you are right, I wont assume answers that are not in the Bible. also, thinking outside the Bible does not mean your hypothesis is correct.

But the devil has a beginning not as the devil but as an angel, perfect in beauty- But for the animals, all creatures have their choice, and I think God was fair by that. Hence submission to Him will be by personal choice and not compulsion. The devil desired God's glory and enlisted the help of some subordinate angels all of which were hurled out from Heaven. The devil has his time, that he runs amok now doesnt mean God cant handle him, even his subordinates continually pleaded with Jesus not to destroy them before the time Mark 1:24 Matthew 8:29. just like any other creature, he has no other realm while time lasts. his time is coming and that of all those who, like the angels he swayed, followed him in his rebellion.

How do rationalise that god is eternal? Even Jesus didn't bother to tell us the origin of this eternal one. I would assume he never knew.

So god made a mistake giving his angels and men freewill? And who told you animals don't have freewill?

ifeness:
You need to sleep Scholar8200. All your mumbling is going nowhere.

Noted, with thanks.

theAtheist101:


How do rationalise that god is eternal? Even Jesus didn't bother to tell us the origin of this eternal one. I would assume he never knew.

So god made a mistake giving his angels and men freewill? And who told you animals don't have freewill?

Freewill in this context refers to a choice to intelligently submit to God or not. The choice of some (not all) does not make it a mistake. There are myriads of angels in Heaven and of saints in Heaven and on earth who are on God's side. This rather shows how that God loves the Truth. Creating automatons that do only what you want by no choice of theirs, is not part of God's attributes.

Scholar8200:
1. Yes, everything - Arrangement of the elements, animals, plants were done in 6 days but before then, the earth (Gen 1:2) was without form and void but was in existence for, only God knows how long b4 creation, that lasted 6 days, started. 2. Not when the act was carried out by the Creator Who could've replaced the rib taken.. While on earth Jesus did similar creative miracles too and even today He still does. 3. This has been answered by a previous post.

Why are you modifying the Bible? Who told you he arranged everything in six days? The Bible said he CREATED, not ARRANGE.

There you go again, the bible never, ever said he replaced anything. At this rate you are going, you would write your own version of the bible. Not to be me. I didn't bother to read your post to others.

That god, if he exist, is a racist. Just face the fact. Read your bible with an open mind, and you would see the book for what it truly is. Same with all other mythological nooks. They were written by men to uplift their race.

Scholar8200:
Freewill in this context refers to a choice to intelligently submit to God or not. The choice of some (not all) does not make it a mistake. There are myriads of angels in Heaven and of saints in Heaven and on earth who are on God's side. This rather shows how that God loves the Truth. Creating automatons that do only what you want by no choice of theirs, is not part of God's attributes.

Stop patching his errors. He made a thing that GIVES him sleepless nights. Something that is purported to turned his angels against him. The same creature turned his beloved man against him. God even REGRETTED making man in Genesis 6.6. Something perfect would never regret his own actions. Just Face it, he made a mistake and that makes him human. A little thinking on your part would make you realise that the whole tale was concocted by a man.

theAtheist101:


Why are you modifying the Bible? Who told you he arranged everything in six days? The Bible said he CREATED, not ARRANGE.

There you go again, the bible never, ever said he replaced anything. At this rate you are going, you would write your own version of the bible. Not to be me. I didn't bother to read your post to others.

That god, if he exist, is a racist. Just face the fact. Read your bible with an open mind, and you would see the book for what it truly is. Same with all other mythological nooks. They were written by men to uplift their race.

The Word I meant to use was Creation and Arrangement. By arrangement, I am referring to the setting of boundaries for the waters (which once covered the earth), the creation and positioning of the Sun and Moon etc God didnt just create, He set a boundary and place for all (read Genesis 1& 2)

And even if you feel a replacement was not mentioned hence not done, I think it perfectly reasonable to conclude that God could have made the woman have the same pair of ribs the man had afterwards; afterall there is no other prototype by which we can compare (to know the original number) other than Adam!

Calling God a racist, how has He expressed this to you? Pharaoh was destroyed for the same reason Saul, Ahab, Hophni,Phinehas, Zedekiah, Asa, and some other Israelites were destroyed (and they all had their chances). David was spared for the same reason Nineveh (under the cruel Assyria, another gentile nation) was spared. And which race exalts itself by writing 'myths' that can be secularly substantiated by it's well documented history. And what uplifts a race about reporting the many times it went into captivity (after much warning) as a result of shameful actions , and how they were delivered when they repented?

theAtheist101:


Stop patching his errors. He made a thing that GIVES him sleepless nights. Something that is purported to turned his angels against him. The same creature turned his beloved man against him. Thing even REGRETTED making man in Genesis 6.6. Something perfect would never regret his own actions. Just Face it, he made a mistake and that makes him human. A little thinking on your part would make you realise that the whole tale was concocted by a man.

Sleepless nights ? I think its the other way round. Even the devil described his restlessness in Job 1:7(going up and down and walking to and fro) he knows his time is short.

The devil didnt turn them, they made their choice to yield to his rebellion and not all yielded majority remained . Lordship over automatons is a self - deceit ; they never had any choice anyway.

Would a father say he made a mistake getting married and having kids if one of them (say out of two) becomes a criminal inspite of all that was done to make life comfortable? Yes it will grieve him but no right thinking man will say a mistake was made. All will agree that the child chose his path in life.

Scholar8200:
The Word I meant to use was Creation and Arrangement. By arrangement, I am referring to the setting of boundaries for the waters (which once covered the earth), the creation and positioning of the Sun and Moon etc God didnt just create, He set a boundary and place for all (read Genesis 1& 2)

And even if you feel a replacement was not mentioned hence not done, I think it perfectly reasonable to conclude that God could have made the woman have the same pair of ribs the man had afterwards; afterall there is no other prototype by which we can compare (to know the original number) other than Adam!

Calling God a racist, how has He expressed this to you? Pharaoh was destroyed for the same reason Saul, Ahab, Hophni,Phinehas, Zedekiah, Asa, and some other Israelites were destroyed (and they all had their chances). David was spared for the same reason Nineveh (under the cruel Assyria, another gentile nation) was spared. And which race exalts itself by writing 'myths' that can be secularly substantiated by it's well documented history. And what uplifts a race about reporting the many times it went into captivity (after much warning) as a result of shameful actions , and how they were delivered when they repented?

Paragraph 1: any way you write it, EVERYTHING took 6 days. With that, the age of the earth was calculated by a Christian to be around 6000 years.

So you think? You are not even affirmative about a book your soul's salvation depends on. The argument could go either way.

Name any great prophet from your tribe, your country, or your continent? Even the Bible said the Jews are "god's chosen people". Well, I care less about that, because I know it is all fallacy.

Scholar8200:


Sleepless nights ? I think its the other way round. Even the devil described his restlessness in Job 1:7(going up and down and walking to and fro) he knows his time is short.

The devil didnt turn them, they made their choice to yield to his rebellion and not all yielded majority remained . Lordship over automatons is a self - deceit ; they never had any choice anyway.

Would a father say he made a mistake getting married and having kids if one of them (say out of two) becomes a criminal inspite of all that was done to make life comfortable? Yes it will grieve him but no right thinking man will say a mistake was made. All will agree that the child chose his path in life.

Is it the criminal alone that has a sleepless night? The police doing the catching also works, and in most case, does more. God would also work tirelessly to apprehend a creation he manufactured wrongly. Which time is short? You guys have been saying that for the past 2000 years and this event (betrayal of satan) must have started way before the purported creation of Man. Wake up from your slumber brother!

To-may-to, To-may-to! The end result is he influenced/persuaded/convinced/threatened some angels to betray their creator. That is failure for someone in magnitude of the Jewish god. God is also an imperfect leader, just like man!

You even had to relate the action of your god to that of an earthly father, and I wouldn't fault you on that, because the whole concept of him was conceived by man. But, your analogy is very wrong. The right analogy is: after the father gave birth his children, he placed porn magazines, how-to-kill books, how-to-be-great books, and so on around them. And left them in no one's care to marry another wife. Did the father in any way make life comfortable for his children? He instead brought confusion on his infant children. The tale states that he planted a dangerous tree in a garden he kept his infant children. Even an earthly father wouldn't make that catastrophic mistake. Aside that, he allowed his self-created enemy into the compound! Who does that? Yet, you would praise him for being "omni-anything".

I know you would come back dribbling around these glaring facts, and justify it with some biblical nonsense.