ShymmexOBE:


An 8oz glove is an 8oz glove, just as kids' head tennis rackets are the same as the professional head tennis rackets, no? Your logic right there. You can't make this up.

But they don't weight the same though. Do they? Show me if you can

So, you had to pull a vacuous article from GuardianUK by Kevin Mitchell, a perennial/perpetual Mayweather hater, who's also a freelance journalist - hence he hasn't been sacked from the Guardian yet due to the large volume of complaints they get on how anti-Mayweather he's, no? If you're an avid Guardian reader, you'd know that Kevin Mitchell has been hating on Mayweather since he whooped Ricky Hatton's ar.se.

And that's who you had to quote to show ya knowledge of boxing? - hahahahaha. You're a gift that keeps on giving.

WTF!! First he's was not even talking of Mayweather, where did you get that from? Damn you're all over the place now.

Be that as it may, it doesn't negate the fact he's more than qualified to be a boxing and tennis correspondent for the guardian and the observer. His boxing opinions holds far more weight than your's or mine.

Besides, don't expect every journalist to be Mayweather fanboys like you and Froch


You've clearly lost, look at your tail between your legs. Next time don't debate with a pugilist specialist like me

Cap28 and 50calibre

I'm back to school the both of you.

This is an interview with Mike Tyson, in which he talked about the greatness of Mayweather. Heck, he has a portrait of him among those he believes are the greatest boxers ever.

Despite their disagreements and bad blood in public, Tyson is a big fan of Mayweather (he adores him lol).

Mayweather is ya favourite boxer's favourite boxer.

Enjoy the interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AqFYpSLPHs

Shymm3x:
Cap28 and 50calibre

I'm back to school the both of you.

This is an interview with Mike Tyson, in which he talked about the greatness of Mayweather. Heck, he has a portrait of him among those he believes are the greatest boxers ever.

Despite their disagreements and bad blood in public, Tyson is a big fan of Mayweather (he adores him lol).

Mayweather is ya favourite boxer's favourite boxer.

Enjoy the interview.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AqFYpSLPHs

Lol

1 - Tyson isn't my favourite boxer, he's one of my favourites.

2 - This is the pre-fight interview.

3 - This goes further to buttress my point that his post fight opinions were unbiased contrary to what you said.


4 - You misinterpret tyson's professional opinion for adoration

5 - Mayweather is one of the greats, that I've always agreed but touting himself as TBE is nothing short of blasphemy.

50calibre:

Lol

1 - Tyson isn't my favourite boxer, he's one of my favourites.

2 - This is the pre-fight interview.

3 - This goes further to buttress my point that his post fight opinions were unbiased contrary to what you said.


4 - You misinterpret tyson's professional opinion for adoration

5 - Mayweather is one of the greats, that I've always agreed but touting himself as TBE is nothing short of blasphemy.

Lmao @ buttress ya point, when the same Mike Tyson called Mayweather "dirt" before the fight.

I just posted this to show you that behind closed doors, Tyson is a big fan of Mayweather.

Hell yeah, the same way Ali was touting himself as the greatest even before he won a world title, while Joe Louis was alive, no? Ditto how Mike Tyson used to call himself the greatest ever when he was at his prime, no?

TBE and TBT - get that gwop!

Shymm3x:


Lmao @ buttress ya point, when the same Mike Tyson called Mayweather "dirt" before the fight.

Understandable given the blasphemous comments mayweather made about being better than Ali. Tyson is such an Ali fan, it's only normal for him (and even other people) to get agitated when they hear Floyd being so disrespectful!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Y_Digxnd8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTJp7pkPk

I just posted this to show you that behind closed doors, Tyson is a big fan of Mayweather.

How is he behind closed doors? He's in front of a camera. You've started connecting your imaginary dots again where in that video did he say he was a mayweather fan? I don't have to be a Chelsea fan before I give them props where props are due.

Hell yeah, the same way Ali was touting himself as the greatest even before he won a world title, while Joe Louis was alive, no? Ditto how Mike Tyson used to call himself the greatest ever when he was at his prime, no?

There goes the blasphemy again.. I feel Floyd & Ali shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence, they're worlds apart. Ali calling himsèlf the greatest at the time was considered cocky but he damn sure proved it beyond reasonable doubt. Facing various adversities during the Jim Crow era, he rose to the top, fighting & bearing some of the hardest/scariest fighters that ever walked this planet and being a 3 time world champion. Who has mayweather fought? What has mayweather faced? Which tough guy has he beaten convincingly?

Ali was an all round fighter, he had the heart, the charisma, the humour.... Whereas mayweather is just a crass, cocky, delusional dude who thinks himself greater than he actually is.

Tyson has had he's own delusional moment too.... He once said "It's interesting that you put me in the league with those illustrious fighters [Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson], but I've proved since my career I've surpassed them as far my popularity. I'm the biggest fighter in the history of the sport. If you don't believe it, check the cash register."

Basically the same mindset mayweather has right now. Don't worry, later in life he'd realise his folly

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50calibre:


Understandable given the blasphemous comments mayweather made about being better than Ali. Tyson is such an Ali fan, it's only normal for him (and even other people) to get agitated when they hear Floyd being so disrespectful!

How is he behind closed doors? He's in front of a camera. You've started connecting your imaginary dots again where in that video did he say he was a mayweather fan? I don't have to be a Chelsea fan before I give them props where props are due.

There goes the blasphemy again.. I feel Floyd & Ali shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence, they're worlds apart. Ali calling himsèlf the greatest at the time was considered cocky but he damn sure proved it beyond reasonable doubt. Facing various adversities during the Jim Crow era, he rose to the top, fighting & bearing some of the hardest/scariest fighters that ever walked this planet and being a 3 time world champion. Who has mayweather fought? What has mayweather faced? Which tough guy has he beaten convincingly?

Ali was an all round fighter, he had the heart, the charisma, the humour.... Whereas mayweather is just a crass, cocky, delusional dude who thinks himself greater than he actually is.

Tyson has had he's own delusional moment too.... He once said "It's interesting that you put me in the league with those illustrious fighters [Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson], but I've proved since my career I've surpassed them as far my popularity. I'm the biggest fighter in the history of the sport. If you don't believe it, check the cash register."

Basically the same mindset mayweather has right now. Don't worry, later in life he'd realise his folly

Everything you talked about has been overflogged already - go check my previous posts.

This is your Tyson calling himself the best ever and running his mouth everywhere. Start from 0.50 mark. Pot and kettle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbdRsWmZDZ4

Shymm3x:


Everything you talked about has been overflogged already - go check my previous posts.

This is your Tyson calling himself the best ever and running his mouth everywhere. Start from 0.50 mark. Pot and kettle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbdRsWmZDZ4

A moment of delusion.

Even at that, he mentioned Sony Liston and Jack Dempsey... Showing he has respect for previous champions.

Shymmexx - Thanks for posting that interview, I enjoyed listening to Mike as his views on life are always interesting.
By the way Iron Mike was just giving an objective professional opinion about Mayweather , deep down he can't stand insecure, delusional Gayweather. Gayweather lacks humility, is extremely insecure and uses money to cover up the gaping hole in his soul ,why would any self respecting person look up to him? Ali and Tyson are real, down to earth and genuine people who realise that money is not the panacea for happiness.

Here's Marc Lamont-Hill interviewing Tyson:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUQUs4JUbkA

Who are these professional derailers on every oshio topic of recent.

50calibre:

A moment of delusion.

Even at that, he mentioned Sony Liston and Jack Dempsey... Showing he has respect for previous champions.

Ha!!

Making excuses for Mike Tyson, are we?

He was even much more vulgar in his rant.

Unlike Mayweather who never took anything away from the achievements of the legends (Ali, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard, and Joe Louis. His only crime is that: he said he doesn't believe anyone is better than him and that's the mentality he takes to ring.

Also, I don't want to say anything bad about Ali (the great one can do no wrong in my eyes) but he did call out Joe Louis in a very disrespectful way when he was at his prime. And Joe Louis broke barriers and made a lot of sacrifices, due to how racist America was back then - but Joe Louis was a true warrior. It's basically like Derek Jeter or Barry Bonds calling out the likes of Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, and Jackie Robinson. Adrian Peterson or Emmitt Smith calling out Jim Brown. Michael Jordan, Kobe or LeBron calling out Bill Russell or Dr J.

My point is: they were all guilty of this.

cap28:
Shymmexx - Thanks for posting that interview, I enjoyed listening to Mike as his views on life are always interesting.
By the way Iron Mike was just giving an objective professional opinion about Mayweather , deep down he can't stand insecure, delusional Gayweather. Gayweather lacks humility, is extremely insecure and uses money to cover up the gaping hole in his soul ,why would any self respecting person look up to him? Ali and Tyson are real, down to earth and genuine people who realise that money is not the panacea for happiness.

Here's Marc Lamont-Hill interviewing Tyson:

Lmao!

Brother, I see you're trying to bring Dr. Marc Lamont Hill into this (thanks for the video) to win the debate. In case you don't know, Dr. Lamont Hill is my mentor. He has been my mentor since 2008, and we exchanged emails a few times while I was in Uni about career choices and academic progression. We've similar backgrounds, albeit in different countries, but can relate to each other's stories. And reading about Malcolm X changed his life, just like it changed mine. Free Mumia Abu-Jamal! Peace to Assata Shakur. And peace to the black gods.

That said: is Mayweather really insecure, lacks humility, and delusional? He isn't perfect and rather than say these things about the man - I'd wager that he has a chip on his shoulder due how he was raised, and where he's from. That comes with the territory and I can relate to that. You might want to feign ignorance, but both Tyson and Ali also had a chip on the shoulder when they were at their prime. Apart from being from a particular race and a background where most folks either die by age 21, or end up in prison - when you're at the top and you're brash as they both were - the media will always create the image of the good vs. bad to sell tickets. Both Ali and Tyson were also portrayed as "bad guys" at their prime, and they both had a chip on their shoulder, the same way Mayweather is right now. Yes, they're now down to earth in retirement - but that doesn't negate who they used to be. So, why critique only Mayweather for what they were also guilty of?

Err, just celebrate his achievements, especially what he and Al Haymon are doing for the sport of boxing and how much he has been able to make with his own company, employing black folks - while keeping the money in the community - than hate on the man. Carl Frampton just called Al Haymon the most powerful man in boxing a few days and he had nothing but praise for him. Ditto the biggest boxing promoter in the UK, Eddie Hearn, and how he has been sucking up to Al Haymon of late and how he's trying so hard to work with. Both Carl Frampton and Eddie Hearn are white. Also, almost all boxers are signing to Al Haymon now (he has over 100 boxers signed to him) and by the end of next year, I won't be surprised if every notable boxer out there is either directly under Al Haymon or with a partnership deal with him. Floyd Mayweather made that happen through his skills - and Al Haymon gave him the marketing/business blueprint.

Black brothers achieving great things unlike the Ali and Tyson era when they were slaves to white people. Don't hate, just celebrate greatness, black man.

cap28

After watching that Mike Tyson's interview with Dr. Lamont Hill, and how passionate and sober he's - especially when he said he knows he'll never be a millionaire again. Ditto where he came out straight about how he has to be borderline Uncle Tom acting like a clown everywhere just to feed his family cos that's he has got, I almost shed a tear for him. He also talked about how women groups keep signing petitions against him appearing on entourage, and how a lot of folks are still out to deny him means of livelihood. I've also watched a few of his other interviews now - and darn, it's a cold world out there. And that's more reason why you need to support Mayweather cos these folks are trying to break him as well.

I just hope he doesn't get fed up one day, become the old Mike Tyson from Brownsville, Brooklyn (never ran and never will) and start committing crime cos he said it's either his family or returning to Mike Tyson from Brownsville. Just take a look at how they destroyed that black man, his soul, broke his spirit, and left him for dead psychologically - with only borderline Uncle Tom shiit as the only thing he can do these days just to feed his family. Sad.

Shymm3x:


Lmao!

Brother, I see you're trying to bring Dr. Marc Lamont Hill into this (thanks for the video) to win the debate. In case you don't know, Dr. Lamont Hill is my mentor. He has been my mentor since 2008, and we exchanged emails a few times while I was in Uni about career choices and academic progression. We've similar backgrounds, albeit in different countries, but can relate to each other's stories. And reading about Malcolm X changed his life, just like it changed mine. Free Mumia Abu-Jamal! Peace to Assata Shakur. And peace to the black gods.

That said: is Mayweather really insecure, lacks humility, and delusional? He isn't perfect and rather than say these things about the man - I'd wager that he has a chip on his shoulder due how he was raised, and where he's from. That comes with the territory and I can relate to that. You might want to feign ignorance, but both Tyson and Ali also had a chip on the shoulder when they were at their prime. Apart from being from a particular race and a background where most folks either die by age 21, or end up in prison - when you're at the top and you're brash as they both were - the media will always create the image of the good vs. bad to sell tickets. Both Ali and Tyson were also portrayed as "bad guys" at their prime, and they both had a chip on their shoulder, the same way Mayweather is right now. Yes, they're now down to earth in retirement - but that doesn't negate who they used to be. So, why critique only Mayweather for what they were also guilty of?

Err, just celebrate his achievements, especially what he and Al Haymon are doing for the sport of boxing and how much he has been able to make with his own company, employing black folks - while keeping the money in the community - than hate on the man. Carl Frampton just called Al Haymon the most powerful man in boxing a few days and he had nothing but praise for him. Ditto the biggest boxing promoter in the UK, Eddie Hearn, and how he has been sucking up to Al Haymon of late and how he's trying so hard to work with. Both Carl Frampton and Eddie Hearn are white. Also, almost all boxers are signing to Al Haymon now (he has over 100 boxers signed to him) and by the end of next year, I won't be surprised if every notable boxer out there is either directly under Al Haymon or with a partnership deal with him. Floyd Mayweather made that happen through his skills - and Al Haymon gave him the marketing/business blueprint.

Black brothers achieving great things unlike the Ali and Tyson era when they were slaves to white people. Don't hate, just celebrate greatness, black man.

Its good to know that Marc Lamont Hill is your mentor he is a very intelligent guy and I respect him for his acheivements. I have always marvelled at his quick and erudite mind, however you must remember that he is on the payroll of the western media, he used to work for Fox and I think he now has a permanent slot with Huffington post. So he is being used by the western media as a mouth piece. Having said that I still like him and I think he was very empathetic towards Tyson in that interview and showed him the kind of respect that a white interviewer wouldn't have.

Going back to Tyson and Ali - neither of them had a chip on their shoulder. Infact Ali had absolutely no chip on his shoulder as he grew up in a stable home with both parents and had a middle class (by black American standards at the time) upbringing. I would say that Ali was and is a well rounded individual with a very strong sense of self that only comes about when a child is brought up surrounded by love and security. This is why Ali's self esteem was so high. Ali used his extremely high self esteem to his advantage as he used it to psychologically defeat his opponents in the ring. If you watch Ali's tactics they centre around bragging, boasting and posturing, all of this came from his extremely high self esteem.

Ali made up for any shortcomings in his boxing skills by wearing his opponents down with his bragging, insults and posing. Tyson was not mentally as strong as Ali, but what he lacked in mental strength he made up for in physical strength. Also Cus helped to build his self esteem using affirmation, love, hypnosis and providing him with a stable loving home environment, all of these helped reinforce Tyson's self belief. If you check Tyson's fights whilst under Cus's influence you will see an invincible warrior who can not be stopped. Check Tyson after Cus's death and whilst under Don King's influence you will see a man who has stopped believing in himself due to the departure of the one person who made him feel worthy. Tyson has said many times that boxing is not necessarily about physical strength but mental strength, Cus used to tell Tyson " your mind is not your friend, you must learn to conquer it or it will destroy you".

If I am to agree that Ali had any grouse at all with the white establishment I would say that it would be that he was sick and tired of the daily humiliation and disrespect that was part and parcel of life as a young black man in the US in the 1950s. This humiliation and disrespect did not get better even when he became the heavy weight champ as he was regularly denied service in white restaurants and hotels . I would therefore say that he was more than justified to feel insulted and slighted after everything he had achieved. But I would not say he had a chip on his shoulder, Ali was a very up beat individual, cheerful, ebullient and charismatic. It is these very qualities that posed the greatest threat to the system of white supremacy and hence the decision by the white establishment to silence him with so called Parkinson's disease.

Tyson being a child of the 60s grew up in slightly different circumstances but he still had to contend with extreme poverty and racism, he was a victim of white supremacy and almost paid the ultimate price, however good fortune shone on him and he was saved from the terrible fate that awaits many black men in the western world ( ie early violent death or prison ) by Cus D Amato.

Bragging and posturing is what boxing is all about therefore Tyson's intimidating behaviour and Ali''s insults and psychological browbeating of opponents is all part of the weaponry that boxers use in defeating their opponents. Boxing is a dangerous and savage sport, you can not go into the ring and beat the sh.it out of your opponent unless you are psychologically psyched up, boxers HAVE to boast, brag and act in an intimidating way in order to defeat their opponent psychologically.

Many of Tyson's opponents were defeated even before they stepped into the ring with him.

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