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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by thoth: 2:30pm On Jun 07, 2015
@Shymm3x

Being a Superpower is a psychological phenomena in the sense that it must start from the mind and effect itself on the outside, it will live in the mind and can only be sustained in the mind,all you see on the outside are just the outcome of what's on the mind,and a lot of African nation has the capacity to be a superpower, both the population(Nigerian 170 mil) the brains,the resources, the manpower to actualize that which their minds has conceived.
I know being out there in the western world and seeing how far they've gone one might think from our present situation it would be unthinkable to surpass them in less than two decades but it more than possible and in fact will be the case only if Africans can get a few things straight.
Back to the topic, there are many ways one can observe the global state of the Blackman but the resounding truth leads you back to a black super power as the answer, if i am permitted to use Nigeria as a test case …… Black Consciousness is important to the blacks in diaspora but what will it get them there , to answer this one must go back to the root, why the need of Black Consciousness ? What logic or reason does our supposed racist has against the Blackman ? How does he validate it ? How does he sustain for so long ? Are we trying to prove that we are humans?(imagine how irrational this is)
let's answer, the root is that other races believe that blacks are subhumans and incapable of possessing many necessary human qualities.
the need for Black awareness i suppose is not to fight racism but to educate the blacks on how to conduct themselves, to reject the racist depiction of the Blackman by doing things the right way in order to PROVE by evidence that they are humans and do possess same if not better qualities than their detractors.
so what reason does the racist has against the Blackman ? He asserts that the Blackman is not capable of civilized conduct, he points to the black communities as evidence and points to Africa as VALIDATION of his claims.
how does he validate and sustain this stance ? He keeps pointing to Africa as a reference, he makes sure Africa is in a mess, and he uses the media to keep showing Africa as a jungle, a huge ghetto, he hardly mentions a single nations name when relevant topics are discussed instead he just says Africa, when he talks about horrible things he never says AIDS is killing people in Uganda rather he says Africa, he does adverts, shows beautiful cities of Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, then shows some jungle and says Africa , he validates himself by showing the younger generation of his race that you can trample on the black race and go free, he reduces their worth over and over just by referencing Africa. Whites say something like anywhere you throw blacks together it will just get messed up,they mention the black community they want to verbally attack first then the next thing you hear is Africa.
Now on the importance and the role of the Black superpower, if an active Black Consciousness movement starts out in Nigeria and Nigerians became aware of their stand outside Nigeria, they would be ashamed cus when they want to chant Black Power and look around they will ser the filth they live in and they will be forced to make progress, the anger that comes from such realization is what Africa needs, The anger that fuels the need to be better than our enemies in order to prove a point, the anger that force one to think above himself and think for the group. That's what Black consciousness does, it forces to be a superpower so that you be proud and show that Black power.it forces you to hate with passion those that has sold out as i witness you and cap28 doing above, imagine millions of Nigerians infected with such awareness and passion, imagine how the meaning of politics will be changed from where "we go to loot" to "the sacred path to salvation" , imagine the anger and the reaction of Nigerians if they ever hear that a white policeman shot a unarmed Blackman, it will be catastrophic for that country if they ever had business with Nigeria or any country under Nigeria's sphere of influence and they are bold enough to give the kind of verdict they do these days on white on black violence. Black consciousness automatically creates an intelligentsia in any black society and with time such conduct become part of the society, A black superpower would end racism within the shortest timeframe. A black superpower is the only potent medicine against neocolonialism, had Nigeria been led by Black Conscious leaders who know their history, with that "anger" in them, do you think any non African nation can fly it's planes over Libya ? Just a simple warning is enough.
when Blackman has a Strongman behind him his voice will be strong, when he has a place to compare to the enemies he will have pride, when he takes control of his nations he will have power.
A black Iranian said something some years ago to me during one of our discussions, he said Africa has more power over Europe than any other continent, assuming we are Black Conscious, and some silly nation messes with us, we can play with his economy all we want, cause catastrophic job losses and the riots that follows it by just withholding vital materials to their industry, raising or lowering prices and dictating the market, infact a Conscious Black Africa becomes Europe's king maker, look at Europe and tell me what they really have, almost nothing, at least not enough to make them live comfortably as Gambia, They can't suck up to Russia and they can't fight him either.
All those years of Anger,Marches,talks and protests by African Americans and British Americans what can they achieve ? They will still ask those whites for handouts, they don't own anything, they can't dictate anything, they can't influence anything, they are just asking for mercy…now you can't say this for continental Africa, we own our lands and whats inside it,we can dictate a lot,we can influence a lot and we sure are not asking for mercy.
Finally keep in mind that most of the freedoms the African Americans enjoyed were a direct result of the Communist Threat and the Agitations for independence in colonial Africa.

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by PabloAfricanus(m): 3:12pm On Jun 07, 2015
@Shymmex and others...my type of thread!
My contributions...

For starters, let's analyse the challenges and problems facing blacks in the States and africa.

The most important ingredient for any political organization or any group of people at all is finance...to be more specific independent finance. Loyalty, commitment and dedication to group goals have been proved by history to be subject to the forces of demand and supply. People have needs and wants...meet them and they're yours to use. When push comes to shove, survival instincts will always take precedent over "principles", "ethics" and all such sophistries.

The setup of the USA and the mechanism of global finance has ruled out the blacks from the game. The Fed is a privately controlled franchise, the stock and commodity exchanges are all owned by the same dynasties that came from England and Europe, the bigger game of forex and credit facilities is a Jewish game. These turfs are not accessible in any direct manner to the blacks. The dollars are printed for acquisition of any strategic assets deemed useful...shipped to the designated banks...disbursed to the trusted white establishment companies...backed by the white establishment judges and justices...enforced by white establishment military forces. The black man is a mere observer in this game. The white man does not need to work to "create" money or wealth...they own and control all the apparatus for asset creation, acquisition, valuation and ownership.
If you understand the above, then the near futility of the black mans efforts to challenge the white establishment will dawn on you.

The only thing the white establishment fears is the rage, anger and wrath of the alpha black male. They know its a force of nature. They also know the majority of black males appear to lack the intellectual capacity to accomplish any political, military or economic goal.
Current and ongoing efforts are on course to completely emasculate the black males...and the males of all other groups.
Hip hop is already a pink business, stars are groomed and launched by the puppet masters. Absurdities are crafted and marketed as "normal". Not many know Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga are trannies. Most of the stars out there are sexually compromised puppets used to drive social engineering projects. These are the idols your kids worship and adore. The fruits of social engineering are already with us...as societal backlash against departures from established norms is muted and repressed.
Its deemed "uncool" and "bigotry" and "hateful".

The dollar is just a designated storage of value agreed on by the white powers that be to drive trade and commerce. It is the primary duty of the military, secret service,the courts and the crew in Washington to protect and preserve the dollar. Without the dollar as the weapon of control...the game collapses...as loyalty and commitment will shift to whomever can guarantee the "creation" of money and wealth. In other words...its the oldest racket in existence.
Wars are just a mechanism to clear out rotten debts and enforce compliance to repayment of debts.
So long as the blacks are dependent on "earning dollars" to pay for anything whatsoever...they're slaves to the system and can always be punished, manipulated and coerced into submission.

Second, you need a strong ideological,religious and philosophical base to build a cohesive society. For the Greeks/Anglo-Saxons/Celtics it was their mythologies, gods, demi-gods, semi-divine kings, authority of their priests and priestesses. These are the heritage native peoples indentify with and rally around. This is the subconscious energy that drives and sustains any society or ethnic group. To lose this would leave any tribe anchorless and without direction. This is the secret of the "Jewish" establishment...which has totally taken over the Anglo-Saxon/Celtic establishment. The Jewish mythological and religious ethos resonates more with man's collective unconscious than any other "religion" known to man. Its a carefully researched and crafted mythology. Without the mandate of their "god" and his "laws"...their is no drive or reason to live a certain way of life.

The majority black leaders of any repute in the world are either Prince Hall Masons, Scottish/York rite masons, shriners or any of the gang of freemason affiliates. This is where the minds and souls of leaders are owned and controlled. Its a "Jewish" thing...albeit controlled by the white establishment. This is where guiding thoughts, strategies and principles for any particular decade are formulated and acted out.
The blacks are already owned...as they have no guiding ethos, religion or mythology to form a group consciousness around. Study Elijah Muhammad's works and compare them to published Sufist ideologies...same old Kabalistic ideas repackaged. The NOI is a subsidiary of American Freemasonry...nothing original was brought to the table by Elijah Muhammad or his followers...infact they borrowed it all from the Hermetic and Sufist philosophies taught them.
So long as the blacks have submitted themselves to the sky daddy religions of the Islamists and their Jewish cousins...so long as their ethos and spiritual values are dictated by the White adopters of the mystical traditions of the East...so long as their minds and thoughts will be owned and controlled by their masters.

Finally, you need science, technology and a strong military to establish any successful society. We blacks care more about the latest Kardarshian gossip than about the latest arms deals going on between the leading nations of the world. While strong and aspiring-to-be-strong nations like Iran and N.Korea are negotiating their places at the global casino tables...we blacks care more about "keeping it real" and silly reality shows. We are more interested in NBA distractions, video games, street credibility than the game of power. Better to leave such things to the whites who understand it. Why bother?
Nations are busy securing their present and future sovereignty by investing in weapons research, training and fitting disciplined military units, developing and refining military doctrines...while we would rather do the East Coast vs West Coast thingy. Heck even our so called graduates are content with that tag...you know for the bragging rights of having attended college. They have no clue as to the practicability of whatever they were taught!

The blacks need to MAKE and CREATE their own history.
Ponder for a minute on how the Europeans carved up and partitioned ENTIRE CONTINENTS into countries of their own naming and likes.
Subjugated entire empires and subcontinents using a mere handful of men. Amazing aint it?

If they can do it...the blacks can even do better.

Our current course is on a journey to nowhere...filled with chapters of ignorance, victimization, betrayals, pain, poverty, defeat and failure.
That reality needs to be changed and replaced with a better one. It will require GREAT SACRIFICES in blood and resources...but the coming generations...history...posterity...will tell the story.
The same way current world history is the story of the Europeans and their descendants.

My 2 cents.

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by cap28: 4:36pm On Jun 07, 2015
Shymm3x:


That said, I think whenever you critique, you have this propensity to always take the face-value of whatever message is disseminated, without looking at the bigger picture. Once you start moving beyond letting the emotional side of things obfuscate logical translation in how you view things - you'll see that both Kanye West and Floyd Mayweather are great role models for black youths, when it comes to economics. Helping black people goes beyond giving folks crumbs and publicising it - we need to embrace structures that will make us owners, and not consumers. And that's why I rate both of them. Both are achieving greatness, without the need to compromise - and that's a lot in the current clime dominated by white supremacy/privilege. Not saying they're both perfect - far from it - but what they're both doing is laudable, in the larger scheme of things.

And you exhibit what is popularly known as herd mentality - a mindless and slavish adoration of what you perceive as the current trend without any thought as to why that thing is a trend in the first place.

You are a typical mind controlled negro, hooked on materialism and consumerism. You go crazy at the sight of flashy cars, expensive clothes and strippers and in your small mind you think that those things are what denote success. Success is not about any of those things, and as Farrakhan correctly said in one of the videos you posted one person can never rise above the condition of his people. The fact that Kanye West and Mayweather drive bugattis or wear designer clothes will not stop your boss at work from treating you like crap or firing you simply because he doesn't want to see your black face around him anymore. It also wont stop a police officer from stopping and searching you simply because you are black and it wont stop a white woman in the street from clutching on to her bag when you walk past her, so why are you still desperately trying to ride on the coat tails of two people who have done absolutely nothing for you, except remind you how rich they are and how poor you are?
I mean when was the last time that Kanye WEst used some of his millions to build schools in the black community or award scholarships to underprivileged black kids? We already know that Mayweather doesn't consider Africa as his ancestral home and feels more at home in strip clubs than around his own people so theres no point asking the same question of him. But what I cant understand is why you seem to think that individual financial success of two of the biggest slaves of the white corporate machine equates to collective success of the black man every where in the world.

Kanye West is like the modern-day 2pac, without the conscious side - while 2pac was the Malcolm X of rap (he owes that to his mum and Black Panther upbringing. What Kanye West is doing creatively alone in both the fashion world and entertainment industry is pure genius, and thus far, he has been able to carry a lot of black youths along. Yes, he does a lot of things that will make you scratch ya head, but you can't deny the fact that he's fearless and the creative control he has over everything he does. Wasn't that the same guy who went to prime time TV to critique George Bush for not caring about black people? How many people have the balls to do that? I believe Minister Louis Farrakhan took him under his arms for proper guidance cos Kanye West, based on how he's moving, will have the world at his feet soon.

Tupac the Malcolm X of rap? Er I don't think so. I don't remember Tupac openly denouncing the system of white supremacy, I don't remember Tupac sacrificing everything he had in order to uplift black americans and get them a better deal in life, infact all I remember Tupac doing was triggering a meaningless east coast west coast feud and getting into gun fights with other black men. Black men are very good at fighting each other but not fighting their real enemy. Malcolm didn't waste his time fighting other black men, he fought the white establishment which in my book is the real fight that blacks should be focusing on. So stop with the delusional fairy stories about Tupac being conscious - he wasn't conscious he was just out to make money, yes he sang about social ills and police brutality but that did not make him conscious, Chuck D was conscious, Akala is conscious, Talib kweli, Immortal Technique are conscious. Tupac messed about with white women, drugs and alcohol, disrespected black women in his music and rapped about killing his fellow black brothers - conscious? I think not . Comparing Tupac to Malcolm X is like comparing Lil Wayne to Marcus Garvey!

As for Kanye Waste he is the modern day version of a buck dancing, shucking and jiving minstrel, he loves white people so much he didn't mind marrying one of their cast offs. Kim has been run through so many times she cant even remember how many men she's slept with. This is a woman no white man in his right mind would date let alone marry but coonish west saw it as an honour to take her on as a wife.

Coonwest goes to Europe begging and crying the racist European designers to endorse his junk and when they laugh at him he throws temper tantrums like a little baby unhappy that massa doesn't respect him. This is the man you call a genius! God help us!

As for Floyd Mayweather, I'm still dumbfounded you can't see the genius in what he's doing. Is boxing not a professional sport? And isn't anything professional for making money? So why do you have a problem with him making money off his profession, and doing so without white people ra.ping him like a slave? You basically want the guy to spend his life working as a slave like Mike Tyson did, and end up broke acting like an Uncle Tom like Mike Tyson is doing these days to feed his family. Didn't you see the regrets all over Tyson's face in the interview I posted to you last week? You have a problem with white supremacy/privilege and white people dominating everything - yet you also have a problem with black folks creating wealth, becoming owners and not slaves - and cutting white domination. You sound confused. What do you want him to do? Turn to a slave and let white folks make money off his sweat, and start moaning 10 years after retirement - or the way he took the initiative and made money off his own sweat, by turning hate into wealth? How would black folks become owners with ya mentality?

As I have told you numerous times on other threads, without the white man ALLOWING Mayweather to become rich he wouldn't be. Its that simple. Does Mayweather own any tv stations, who markets his fights, who set up the PPV deals? He may have made some good business moves in terms of ownership but his relationship with the white owned media is a symbiotic one, both need each other in order to make money, therefore his success is less to do with business ingenuity and more to do with necessity. Tyson made over $400 m at the height of his career, the reason he has no money now is because he squandered it not because he wasn't making the money, so whats your point? Had he saved his money and lived a less flamboyant lifestyle he would still be rich. Mayweather lives an equally flamboyant lifestyle now, who's to know what his financial status is going to look like in 10 years time. Who's to know how much he spends keeping that "money team" entourage happy - cos im sure they're not hanging around him for his great conversation and fantastic social skills.
Mike Tyson is still better off than the majority of black people out there including you. Im sure you have to do a lot more degrading things than Mike Tyson has ever done in his lifetime in order to hold on to your 9 to 5 job that the white man lets you have.
Mayweather and WEst create wealth firstly for the white corporate money machine and then they get whats left over, they also make money out of professional followers like you who are dumb enough to buy their trashy products, Mayweather gets dumb nuts like you to spend money they haven't got on ppv to watch him run around the ring and West makes money out of you by selling you second rate junk clothing at inflated prices. They prey on your insecurity, low self esteem and desperation to be part of the "in crowd" but in your delusional mind you seem to think that what they are doing is worthy and groundbreaking. Tragic.

And what's wrong with the breakfast club? Apart from the fact that the radio station is owned by white folks and the excessiveness of Charlamagne sometimes - I honestly don't see anything wrong in what they do. They interview everyone, from musicians, to actors, to activists, to sports men/women etc.. If they can become their own bosses and start doing the show on a radio station or medium they own - that will be big. They already have a massive following all over the globe now, and it's time for them to go to a platform they own and become their own bosses. Aside that, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the breakfast club.

hahaha - you answered your own question - its owned by white folk!!
And guess what? he who owns the radio waves dictates what is broadcast over it. Charlamagne is a self hating, uneducated coon who hates his complexion so much he now uses bleaching cream, he salivates over white women and would do anything to be in a relationship with one. I will however give him credit for at least being quick witted. The other two are the usual self hating "team lightskin" drones who think that being lightskinned somehow elevates them above other "dark skinned" blacks, sadly the only thing the white man sees when he looks at all three of them are a bunch of buck dancing niggas. grin

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by gatiano(m): 4:52pm On Jun 07, 2015
I was just about to do the same Brother, only not the way you did it. The way you did and presented it was perfect. It shows Your Love for the people and Your commitment to the group of the Original people. God Bless You.

I wanted to lay emphasis on the place where Minister Louis Farrakhan, said that the CDC (center for disease control) developed a vaccine to poison the little Black children right from birth. It is genetically modified to attack the Black people, especially the Black male by injecting a vaccine with high amount of mercury into the Babies while their parents aren't paying attention. And this mercury goes straight up the brains.. (that is pure evil), and when we call these people what they really which is the devil, only Black people get mad.
Every Black Nigerian woman wants to give birth to their babies in europe and america, and i know the same thing is already going on in African hospitals. Our doctors and nurses are extremely lazy, and the pharmacists are no where to be found, they don't test the drugs(medications) that are coming in.

PabloAfricanus:
@Shymmex and others...my type of thread!
My contributions...

Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by AAinEqGuinea: 5:05pm On Jun 07, 2015
well said, but now we're, in many respects, preaching to the choir... 50 years later Farrakhan and NOI are still preaching yet again with renewed hope

If you're in Nigeria try taking this thread to the door of Boko Baram and see what happens

If in the states try taking our speeches to the gully trap houses of the most charismatic street goons and see what happens

See how simple it is to use these speeches to lift many Blacks out of generations of abject poverty...

Go kick down the doors of corporations and tell the Black man behind the desk to quit his job as a slave and risk starting a black company that will likely fail due to the lack of support from his own people

Rush the stage of a Young Thug concert, snatch the mic, and tell everyone how brainwashed they really are and see how that goes..

Try preaching this thread to a modern African thoroughly convinced that African Americans are scum who dont deserve the prefix of "African"

Similarly, trying telling this to African Americans who laughs at any image of anything African....


preaching is what we remain doing, and this what Farrakhan is still doing... Parading around some Afrocentric elitist attitude that doesn't change the current state of things so no one is really listening but us, admittedly you may get some respect from our Afrocentric screeds from black peopke. it sounds nice, but it doesn't change anything for many people when convincing them to drop what they're doing for whitey or change their minds.

For starters, I'd like to encourage you all to put your money and energy where your mouth is if you haven't already, I say this respectfully.

Black people are different people, so I'd suggest that while many of us remain embracing the good qualities like singing, dancing, sports, having bigger joysticks, and showcasing other artisanal talents, we may have to embrace other not so glamorous qualities. From the medical standpoint there was sickle cell, but there may be potential psychology factors we may be missing or conveniently ignoring.. Yes, white people are using similar theories like this to justify their racism, but whites will always find something to uplift themselves. I'll challenge us to do the same but instead use the same approach to empower black people... or we can remain here only embracing the good general qualities, while the bad qualities continue to kill us. Many of us are spiritual, prideful, insecure, emotional, etc. You can be all these things and be a leader, but it's about controlling ourselves.


We talk a big talk but easily become threatened by each other, maybe it's the tribal ish in all of our genes. We were never racist, but we were, for the longest time, tribal. I can be all types of coons or a sell-out or maybe put in the grave for merely disagreeing with fellow black man, this is still a needless fate for many black people. Every race of people kill each other, but Blacks hate and/or kill other blacks for the dumbest reasons. We're different, lets start there. Despite some utopia of black intellectuals and decades of "black power" many blacks can't uplift those who simply disagree with them (ego), inability for us work together for extended projects, wanna screw the next man's wife, etc, etc.

My point is that there remain a huge disconnection between Afrocentric circles like these and the majority of blacks worldwide who've concluded they'd just would like to live with the mounting challenges and problems, because at the end of the we're all just talking to ourselves, like self-flattering Farrakhan still is. We're just Black Panther wannabes simply reminding ignorant blacks how evil white systems are, prided by esoterics of Afrocentricsm yet can't look in the mirror of the people you're trying to unite, and some of us having the strangest online identity as an elitist troll as if white sciences have fully ejac.ulated on your brain.. yet we're try to save others.

After some time, most people will know whether you're simply romancing the ideas of what you preach or willing to die help people. King was not out to make a name for himself.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by PabloAfricanus(m): 6:07pm On Jun 07, 2015
@cap28
Blaming Shymexx or any other black for "consumerism" or materialism...while sometimes needed...I've discovered to be counter productive.
How do I mean?
There appears to be no visible alternative for black folks to idolize.
What is the alternative to the black man worshipping "shiny things and toys"?
What black responsible role model can our youths look up to?
Our sisters are even damned ashamed of their hair and natural looks! Most black women vehemently defend their wearing wigs and weave ons like their life depends on it!
Black men know deep down the mediocrity and silliness that is "black culture". Yeah I said it.
Being social animals, they wanna belong too...to something perceived as "better". Can't fault that.
But its never a solution to a self-replicating cycle of self-hate.
Its all about egos. We've not transcended or mastered our egos. To be honest, the whites are leading by far in ego mastery even if theirs leads to disfunctional personalities.

In my opinion, the root of the black man's "problem"...is the lack of what I call "beauty consciousness".
We blacks seem to abhor anything that is beautiful or orderly! Never mind the obsession with shiny things.
If we truly loved beauty...we would replicate such things where ever black people are found.
Take a good look at say a Mercedes Benz AMG S class car...the aesthetics, the attention to details, the refinement, the luxury and sheer beauty of it all.
The black man as we know it...has not demonstrated the ability to conceptualize or manifest such works.
Don't get me started about the pyramids or "african artifacts".
We seem to lack the mental depth and vision to appreciate such levels of beauty. It even had to take White stylists and designers to portray black models as "desirable"!

Summary : the solution I think to the black mans lack of values and aesthetics...is to cultivate a culture of beauty.
It needs to be embedded in our subconscious.
That's what would drive the Romans to build aqueducts over 2000 years ago, make them discover how to use electricity to light up their streets in the night, develop styles of architecture pleasing to the eye...
Drive out the blacks from Detroit and allow the whites to repossess the city once again...in no time they'll beautify it...clean up the mess and make it working. Do you doubt it?
The ugliness would not resonate with their subconscious...thus they would be driven to change it.
On the other hand, almost all that is associated with the black man is...you know what...
We need to master the art of learning from those who know how. The Romans learnt from the Greeks, Syrians, Persians.
The Greeks learnt from the Phoenicians, Egyptians.
The British learnt from the Arabs and Egyptians.
Its the way of the world...learn and improve.
The black man has refused to learn. This is what needs to be changed.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by AAinEqGuinea: 6:12pm On Jun 07, 2015
cap28:


And you exhibit what is popularly known as herd mentality - a mindless and slavish adoration of what you perceive as the current trend without any thought as to why that thing is a trend in the first place.

You are a typical mind controlled negro, hooked on materialism and consumerism. You go crazy at the sight of flashy cars, expensive clothes and strippers and in your small mind you think that those things are what denote success. Success is not about any of those things, and as Farrakhan correctly said in one of the videos you posted one person can never rise above the condition of his people. The fact that Kanye West and Mayweather drive bugattis or wear designer clothes will not stop your boss at work from treating you like crap or firing you simply because he doesn't want to see your black face around him anymore. It also wont stop a police officer from stopping and searching you simply because you are black and it wont stop a white woman in the street from clutching on to her bag when you walk past her, so why are you still desperately trying to ride on the coat tails of two people who have done absolutely nothing for you, except remind you how rich they are and how poor you are?
I mean when was the last time that Kanye WEst used some of his millions to build schools in the black community or award scholarships to underprivileged black kids? We already know that Mayweather doesn't consider Africa as his ancestral home and feels more at home in strip clubs than around his own people so theres no point asking the same question of him. But what I cant understand is why you seem to think that individual financial success of two of the biggest slaves of the white corporate machine equates to collective success of the black man every where in the world.



Tupac the Malcolm X of rap? Er I don't think so. I don't remember Tupac openly denouncing the system of white supremacy, I don't remember Tupac sacrificing everything he had in order to uplift black americans and get them a better deal in life, infact all I remember Tupac doing was triggering a meaningless east coast west coast feud and getting into gun fights with other black men. Black men are very good at fighting each other but not fighting their real enemy. Malcolm didn't waste his time fighting other black men, he fought the white establishment which in my book is the real fight that blacks should be focusing on. So stop with the delusional fairy stories about Tupac being conscious - he wasn't conscious he was just out to make money, yes he sang about social ills and police brutality but that did not make him conscious, Chuck D was conscious, Akala is conscious, Talib kweli, Immortal Technique are conscious. Tupac messed about with white women, drugs and alcohol, disrespected black women in his music and rapped about killing his fellow black brothers - conscious? I think not . Comparing Tupac to Malcolm X is like comparing Lil Wayne to Marcus Garvey!

As for Kanye Waste he is the modern day version of a buck dancing, shucking and jiving minstrel, he loves white people so much he didn't mind marrying one of their cast offs. Kim has been run through so many times she cant even remember how many men she's slept with. This is a woman no white man in his right mind would date let alone marry but coonish west saw it as an honour to take her on as a wife.

Coonwest goes to Europe begging and crying the racist European designers to endorse his junk and when they laugh at him he throws temper tantrums like a little baby unhappy that massa doesn't respect him. This is the man you call a genius! God help us!



As I have told you numerous times on other threads, without the white man ALLOWING Mayweather to become rich he wouldn't be. Its that simple. Does Mayweather own any tv stations, who markets his fights, who set up the PPV deals? He may have made some good business moves in terms of ownership but his relationship with the white owned media is a symbiotic one, both need each other in order to make money, therefore his success is less to do with business ingenuity and more to do with necessity. Tyson made over $400 m at the height of his career, the reason he has no money now is because he squandered it not because he wasn't making the money, so whats your point? Had he saved his money and lived a less flamboyant lifestyle he would still be rich. Mayweather lives an equally flamboyant lifestyle now, who's to know what his financial status is going to look like in 10 years time. Who's to know how much he spends keeping that "money team" entourage happy - cos im sure they're not hanging around him for his great conversation and fantastic social skills.
Mike Tyson is still better off than the majority of black people out there including you. Im sure you have to do a lot more degrading things than Mike Tyson has ever done in his lifetime in order to hold on to your 9 to 5 job that the white man lets you have.
Mayweather and WEst create wealth firstly for the white corporate money machine and then they get whats left over, they also make money out of professional followers like you who are dumb enough to buy their trashy products, Mayweather gets dumb nuts like you to spend money they haven't got on ppv to watch him run around the ring and West makes money out of you by selling you second rate junk clothing at inflated prices. They prey on your insecurity, low self esteem and desperation to be part of the "in crowd" but in your delusional mind you seem to think that what they are doing is worthy and groundbreaking. Tragic.



hahaha - you answered your own question - its owned by white folk!!
And guess what? he who owns the radio waves dictates what is broadcast over it. Charlamagne is a self hating, uneducated coon who hates his complexion so much he now uses bleaching cream, he salivates over white women and would do anything to be in a relationship with one. I will however give him credit for at least being quick witted. The other two are the usual self hating "team lightskin" drones who think that being lightskinned somehow elevates them above other "dark skinned" blacks, sadly the only thing the white man sees when he looks at all three of them are a bunch of buck dancing niggas. grin


You're right about the level of buffoonery mainstream artists exhibit today. But we're to blame as well. The generation that absorbs Hip hop dont absorb folks like immortal tech, mos def, heck ill even throw Hopsin as trying, anymore. I had to take a few steps back from Kendrick, but I respect him. I'm surprised Kendrick's album done relatively well over clowns like Kevin Gates. Black people are conditioned to love the most demeaning and low quality lyricists out here and they hate any hip hop or rap song that does NOT have this element of retardation.


I try to remain empathetic, yet guarded from lost black people as well. I see entertainers as black men merely selling entertainment and i hope many entertainers understand that I'll never support many of them. I highly doubt these artists will allow their own children to listen to their bullshit. But I see them just like many of us right now, stuck working for the man until maybe we became the man. "Go start a black business" we scream, but with what money? Seems like we all need to do some time on the plantation before we can start our own.

i agree with shymexx in taking the good from the bad, but these artists know they could be delivering a lot more good considering the circumstances. I dont know how far we're going to get believing we (and our future families) can live in this bubble immune from the influence from other (lost) black people while trying to preach to them.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by cap28: 6:57pm On Jun 07, 2015
PabloAfricanus:
@cap28
Blaming Shymexx or any other black for "consumerism" or materialism...while sometimes needed...I've discovered to be counter productive.
How do I mean?
There appears to be no visible alternative for black folks to idolize.
What is the alternative to the black man worshipping "shiny things and toys"?

There are many alternatives, but many are not visible within the white controlled corporate media, this is where knowledge of self comes in to play, imagine what it would be like if BET were to be owned and controlled by a conscious black person, imagine the kind of shows that we would be treated to. Rather than showing images of buck dancing wanna be white black people we would be shown educational documentaries about our glorious past, there would be regular shows about black economic independence and practical ways in which to achieve this, instead of watching crap like love and hip hop, the real wives of Atlanta and hell date we would be watching uplifting educational documentaries about our glorious past which would instill in us the pride and motivation to change our current situation.
Imagine how it would be if we were to be treated on a regular basis, to educational programmes about African history, our many achievements, our great empires, our creativity, our great artistry which every race in the world has hijacked and appropriated.


What black responsible role model can our youths look up to?

Muhammed Ali, Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Patrice Lumumba, Kwame Nkrumah, Thomas Sankara, Nelson Mandela the list goes on.


Our sisters are even damned ashamed of their hair and natural looks! Most black women vehemently defend their wearing wigs and weave ons like their life depends on it!

Because the dominant society (white supremacy) degrades and ridicules black women, also black men are willing accomplices to white supremacy, many black men prefer the physical features of the ugliest white woman to the most beautiful black woman, this has engendered terrible self hatred in many black women who feel that the only way they can get a black man is by looking like a white woman.

Black men know deep down the mediocrity and silliness that is "black culture". Yeah I said it.
Being social animals, they wanna belong too...to something perceived as "better". Can't fault that.

The majority of black men are cowards and are afraid to fight the system of white supremacy. There is nothing mediocre or silly about black culture, black culture is about the ability to survive the most brutal and barbaric system on this planet. What is "better" about a system that castrated, rap.ped and brutalised your ancestors?


But its never a solution to a self-replicating cycle of self-hate.
Its all about egos. We've not transcended or mastered our egos. To be honest, the whites are leading by far in ego mastery even if theirs leads to disfunctional personalities.

Its not about the black man's ego, its about his fear of the white man, black people are afraid of losing the little crumbs the white man throws in his direction, so they degrade themselves in order to have a little money in their pockets.


In my opinion, the root of the black man's "problem"...is the lack of what I call "beauty consciousness".
We blacks seem to abhor anything that is beautiful or orderly! Never mind the obsession with shiny things.
If we truly loved beauty...we would replicate such things where ever black people are found.
Take a good look at say a Mercedes Benz AMG S class car...the aesthetics, the attention to details, the refinement, the luxury and sheer beauty of it all.

The black man's concept of beauty has been distorted because he lives amongst his enemy. It is very difficult to grow up loving your black skin, your broad nose and your thick curly hair in a society that tells you day in day out that those characteristics denote ugliness.

Its interesting how you use the image of the white man's creation to portray beauty - says a lot about your own mindset . I mean if you are using the white german man's creation as a template that says it all.


The black man as we know it...has not demonstrated the ability to conceptualize or manifest such works.
Don't get me started about the pyramids or "african artifacts".
We seem to lack the mental depth and vision to appreciate such levels of beauty. It even had to take White stylists and designers to portray black models as "desirable"!

That's funny cos I could have sworn that black people built the pyramids of Egypt and Sudan. I can also remember that the Moors introduced such great technological advancements in areas such as architecture, literature, science and agriculture to the backward and barbaric people of Iberia (now known as Spain) Correct me if im wrong but these influences are still visible in Spain to date.

Summary : the solution I think to the black mans lack of values and aesthetics...is to cultivate a culture of beauty.
It needs to be embedded in our subconscious.
That's what would drive the Romans to build aqueducts over 2000 years ago, make them discover how to use electricity to light up their streets in the night, develop styles of architecture pleasing to the eye...
Drive out the blacks from Detroit and allow the whites to repossess the city once again...in no time they'll beautify it...clean up the mess and make it working. Do you doubt it?
The ugliness would not resonate with their subconscious...thus they would be driven to change it.
On the other hand, almost all that is associated with the black man is...you know what...
We need to master the art of learning from those who know how. The Romans learnt from the Greeks, Syrians, Persians.
The Greeks learnt from the Phoenicians, Egyptians.
The British learnt from the Arabs and Egyptians.
Its the way of the world...learn and improve.
The black man has refused to learn. This is what needs to be changed.

And the Egyptians who everyone learnt from were black Africans but your white supremacist history teachers have rewritten history so that you don't know that basic fact. We Africans taught the world what beauty is but they have stolen our ideas and pretended as if they are the originators of those same ideas. This practice of stealing from us is an ongoing practice - a simple example is hip hop - notice how the most visible hip hop artists are now white, whereas the originators were black. You need to be aware of the game, if you want to win.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by PabloAfricanus(m): 8:05pm On Jun 07, 2015
AAinEqGuinea:
well said, but now we're, in many respects, preaching to the choir... 50 years later Farrakhan and NOI are still preaching yet again with renewed hope

If you're in Nigeria try taking this thread to the door of Boko Baram and see what happens

If in the states try taking our speeches to the gully trap houses of the most charismatic street goons and see what happens

See how simple it is to use these speeches to lift many Blacks out of generations of abject poverty...

Go kick down the doors of corporations and tell the Black man behind the desk to quit his job as a slave and risk starting a black company that will likely fail due to the lack of support from his own people

Rush the stage of a Young Thug concert, snatch the mic, and tell everyone how brainwashed they really are and see how that goes..

Try preaching this thread to a modern African thoroughly convinced that African Americans are scum who dont deserve the prefix of "African"

Similarly, trying telling this to African Americans who laughs at any image of anything African....


preaching is what we remain doing, and this what Farrakhan is still doing... Parading around some Afrocentric elitist attitude that doesn't change the current state of things so no one is really listening but us, admittedly you may get some respect from our Afrocentric screeds from black peopke. it sounds nice, but it doesn't change anything for many people when convincing them to drop what they're doing for whitey or change their minds.


After some time, most people will know whether you're simply romancing the ideas of what you preach or willing to die help people. King was not out to make a name for himself.

Bro, I understand what you're saying...
Its true...black folks care more about survival than any Uncle Tom do goody talks. Yeah...
And the majority are scared stiff of the ensuing punishments of the "law" and "disturbing the peace".
The rest just comment and take no action.

A starting point would be to recognize that we are not all the same and are at different "intellectual levels"...so to speak.
The so-called preaching by the NOI cannot be for the consumption of the average man...and that is NOT being elitist. It is for those who are willing to die for a cause they believe in. Not all can pay the price or stand the heat.
Preaching with all that intensity is just asking from broken people what they do not have and cannot give.

That's why I tag all such preachers as folks who flatter themselves and make a name out of it. They love hearing themselves talk. And their listeners love the escapism and glamour of it all...cos it leads to no action and no changes at the end of the day.
True revolutionaries and radicals do not make themselves known to the law...they always operate under masks and proxies. Safety first...a drowning man cannot save another drowning man.
I used to abhor so-called secret societies/fraternities...such as the Templars, Jesuits, Freemasons...until I became a better student of human nature and history.

Because greed, selfishness, sabotage and weakness are parts of man's inherited attributes...men will always take the easier route when possible.
You cannot hand over power or responsibility to someone who is not obligated to you. Its common sense.
The NOI is a lost cause...its always been a recruiting ground for FBI and CIA black operatives and snitches.

All effective pressure groups and revolutionary movements have been secret and hidden...most have public fronts with fancy titles and goals. Some even have religious affiliations for public consumption. That is the only known effective way to effect changes against a ruling majority who are opposed to you. The Freemasons changed the course of Europe by cutting the link between the State and the papacy...while being good sons of the Roman church. The Templars introduced credit, Arabian-Sufist enlightenment...all anathema to the papacy by disguising themselves as servants of the church.

Its a game of deception and subterfuge...deadly in the short and long term...but abundantly rewarding to the victors.
You need a few men of honor and enlightenment...who understand what IS IMPORTANT...and are willing to pay the price.
Any other thing else...is just entertainment and sensationalism.

My opinion.

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by AAinEqGuinea: 8:12pm On Jun 07, 2015
PabloAfricanus:


Bro, I understand what you're saying...
Its true...black folks care more about survival than any Uncle Tom do goody talks. Yeah...
And the majority are scared stiff of the ensuing punishments of the "law" and "disturbing the peace".
The rest just comment and take no action.

A starting point would be to recognize that we are not all the same and are at different "intellectual levels"...so to speak.
The so-called preaching by the NOI cannot be for the consumption of the average man...and that is NOT being elitist. It is for those who are willing to die for a cause they believe in. Not all can pay the price or stand the heat.
Preaching with all that intensity is just asking from broken people what they do not have and cannot give.

That's why I tag all such preachers as folks who flatter themselves and make a name out of it. They love hearing themselves talk. And their listeners love the escapism and glamour of it all...cos it leads to no action and no changes at the end of the day.
True revolutionaries and radicals do not make themselves known to the law...they always operate under masks and proxies. Safety first...a drowning man cannot save another drowning man.
I used to abhor so-called secret societies/fraternities...such as the Templars, Jesuits, Freemasons...until I became a better student of human nature and history.

Because greed, selfishness, sabotage and weakness are parts of man's inherited attributes...men will always take the easier route when possible.
You cannot hand over power or responsibility to someone who is not obligated to you. Its common sense.
The NOI is a lost cause...its always been a recruiting ground for FBI and CIA black operatives and snitches.

All effective pressure groups and revolutionary movements have been secret and hidden...most have public fronts with fancy titles and goals. Some even have religious affiliations for public consumption. That is the only known effective way to effect changes against a ruling majority who are opposed to you. The Freemasons changed the course of Europe by cutting the link between the State and the papacy...while being good sons of the Roman church. The Templars introduced credit, Arabian-Sufist enlightenment...all anathema to the papacy by disguising themselves as servants of the church.

Its a game of deception and subterfuge...deadly in the short and long term...but abundantly rewarding to the victors.
You need a few men of honor and enlightenment...who understand what IS IMPORTANT...and are willing to pay the price.
Any other thing else...is just entertainment and sensationalism.

My opinion.

Bro, pure gold. Nice post. I love it.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by PabloAfricanus(m): 9:05pm On Jun 07, 2015
cap28:


There are many alternatives, but many are not visible within the white controlled corporate media, this is where knowledge of self comes in to play, imagine what it would be like if BET were to be owned and controlled by a conscious black person, imagine the kind of shows that we would be treated to. Rather than showing images of buck dancing wanna be white black people we would be shown educational documentaries about our glorious past, there would be regular shows about black economic independence and practical ways in which to achieve this, instead of watching crap like love and hip hop, the real wives of Atlanta and hell date we would be watching uplifting educational documentaries about our glorious past which would instill in us the pride and motivation to change our current situation.
Imagine how it would be if we were to be treated on a regular basis, to educational programmes about African history, our many achievements, our great empires, our creativity, our great artistry which every race in the world has hijacked and appropriated.

What's stopping you and your black leaders from telling the world how beautiful and lovely the blackman and his world is?
BET is not even a black controlled media channel.
How about creating your own thing?Do it and let's see!

cap28:


Muhammed Ali, Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey, Patrice Lumumba, Kwame Nkrumah, Thomas Sankara, Nelson Mandela the list goes on.
Heck no sir! In the big scheme of things...the above guys are "LOSERS"...you read that right.
The role models that will inspire positive and liberating action are in the leagues of Shaka Zulu, Ahmadu Bello etc.
These were men of conquest and triumph. The part of me that detests warfare and bloodshed would agree...but then the world is what it is. Its a world of conquest and plunder. You need to be able to wage wars, fight decisive battles, claim territories, exploit other peoples, impose your laws on strange lands and generally lord it over others. I bet you if the whites had not given media coverage to the folks you listed...most blackmen wouldn't give a dam.n about them or whatever they stood for.



cap28:


Because the dominant society (white supremacy) degrades and ridicules black women, also black men are willing accomplices to white supremacy, many black men prefer the physical features of the ugliest white woman to the most beautiful black woman, this has engendered terrible self hatred in many black women who feel that the only way they can get a black man is by looking like a white woman.


The majority of black men are cowards and are afraid to fight the system of white supremacy. There is nothing mediocre or silly about black culture, black culture is about the ability to survive the most brutal and barbaric system on this planet. What is "better" about a system that castrated, rap.ped and brutalised your ancestors?



Its not about the black man's ego, its about his fear of the white man, black people are afraid of losing the little crumbs the white man throws in his direction, so they degrade themselves in order to have a little money in their pockets.


The black man's concept of beauty has been distorted because he lives amongst his enemy. It is very difficult to grow up loving your black skin, your broad nose and your thick curly hair in a society that tells you day in day out that those characteristics denote ugliness.

Its interesting how you use the image of the white man's creation to portray beauty - says a lot about your own mindset . I mean if you are using the white german man's creation as a template that says it all.

Maybe you didn't get the memo...I could CC you excerpts tho...
The white man does not you anything.
The white man doesn't owe it to you to be fair, just, kind, honest or straight forward.
He doesn't owe it to you to "appreciate black beauty"...or agree that your "broad nose and thick lips" are beautiful too.
He doesn't owe it to you to make sure perception of black people and their ways of life is positive.
The white man did not brave the dangers of the Atlantic crossing hundreds of years ago...the confrontations with the Native Indians...the cold and hunger of living in a new land...to "give justice, fairness or equity" to the black man.
They did not develop the vast land mass of North America
and Canada...so the black man could live on equal terms with them.
They took the land by force, killed off the natives, forced those they couldn't kill to sign off the land over in perpetuity to them and their heirs.
The black man was not and still is not part of their long term plans.
Its not a fair or just world...if you want justice or fairness...go get it!
All those defeatist excuses are just escape windows for cowards and those afraid to dare and die.



cap28:


That's funny cos I could have sworn that black people built the pyramids of Egypt and Sudan. I can also remember that the Moors introduced such great technological advancements in areas such as architecture, literature, science and agriculture to the backward and barbaric people of Iberia (now known as Spain) Correct me if im wrong but these influences are still visible in Spain to date.


And the Egyptians who everyone learnt from were black Africans but your white supremacist history teachers have rewritten history so that you don't know that basic fact. We Africans taught the world what beauty is but they have stolen our ideas and pretended as if they are the originators of those same ideas. This practice of stealing from us is an ongoing practice - a simple example is hip hop - notice how the most visible hip hop artists are now white, whereas the originators were black. You need to be aware of the game, if you want to win.


Show me the equivalent of the Egyptian pyramids in sub-saharan africa...not mud mounds. Don't also tell me about Sudan...cos ancient Egypt extended far...and migrants from Egypt took the customs along.
The people Alexander and his successors met in Egypt could not have been sub saharan africans.
By the time the Romans and Arabs took over...they were clearly a mixture of many peoples. And all of that had little or nothing to do with sub saharan africa.
If you doubt me...I could challenge you to give me the oral history of your ethnic group about the Giza pyramid.

Stop blaming the whites bro. They're just doing their thing...and they owe you no apologies.
The challenge is to do your own thing...if you can.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Shymm3x: 9:05pm On Jun 07, 2015
thoth:
@Shymm3x

Being a Superpower is a psychological phenomena in the sense that it must start from the mind and effect itself on the outside, it will live in the mind and can only be sustained in the mind,all you see on the outside are just the outcome of what's on the mind,and a lot of African nation has the capacity to be a superpower, both the population(Nigerian 170 mil) the brains,the resources, the manpower to actualize that which their minds has conceived.
I know being out there in the western world and seeing how far they've gone one might think from our present situation it would be unthinkable to surpass them in less than two decades but it more than possible and in fact will be the case only if Africans can get a few things straight.
Back to the topic, there are many ways one can observe the global state of the Blackman but the resounding truth leads you back to a black super power as the answer, if i am permitted to use Nigeria as a test case …… Black Consciousness is important to the blacks in diaspora but what will it get them there , to answer this one must go back to the root, why the need of Black Consciousness ? What logic or reason does our supposed racist has against the Blackman ? How does he validate it ? How does he sustain for so long ? Are we trying to prove that we are humans?(imagine how irrational this is)
let's answer, the root is that other races believe that blacks are subhumans and incapable of possessing many necessary human qualities.
the need for Black awareness i suppose is not to fight racism but to educate the blacks on how to conduct themselves, to reject the racist depiction of the Blackman by doing things the right way in order to PROVE by evidence that they are humans and do possess same if not better qualities than their detractors.
so what reason does the racist has against the Blackman ? He asserts that the Blackman is not capable of civilized conduct, he points to the black communities as evidence and points to Africa as VALIDATION of his claims.
how does he validate and sustain this stance ? He keeps pointing to Africa as a reference, he makes sure Africa is in a mess, and he uses the media to keep showing Africa as a jungle, a huge ghetto, he hardly mentions a single nations name when relevant topics are discussed instead he just says Africa, when he talks about horrible things he never says AIDS is killing people in Uganda rather he says Africa, he does adverts, shows beautiful cities of Tokyo, Seoul, Beijing, then shows some jungle and says Africa , he validates himself by showing the younger generation of his race that you can trample on the black race and go free, he reduces their worth over and over just by referencing Africa. Whites say something like anywhere you throw blacks together it will just get messed up,they mention the black community they want to verbally attack first then the next thing you hear is Africa.
Now on the importance and the role of the Black superpower, if an active Black Consciousness movement starts out in Nigeria and Nigerians became aware of their stand outside Nigeria, they would be ashamed cus when they want to chant Black Power and look around they will ser the filth they live in and they will be forced to make progress, the anger that comes from such realization is what Africa needs, The anger that fuels the need to be better than our enemies in order to prove a point, the anger that force one to think above himself and think for the group. That's what Black consciousness does, it forces to be a superpower so that you be proud and show that Black power.it forces you to hate with passion those that has sold out as i witness you and cap28 doing above, imagine millions of Nigerians infected with such awareness and passion, imagine how the meaning of politics will be changed from where "we go to loot" to "the sacred path to salvation" , imagine the anger and the reaction of Nigerians if they ever hear that a white policeman shot a unarmed Blackman, it will be catastrophic for that country if they ever had business with Nigeria or any country under Nigeria's sphere of influence and they are bold enough to give the kind of verdict they do these days on white on black violence. Black consciousness automatically creates an intelligentsia in any black society and with time such conduct become part of the society, A black superpower would end racism within the shortest timeframe. A black superpower is the only potent medicine against neocolonialism, had Nigeria been led by Black Conscious leaders who know their history, with that "anger" in them, do you think any non African nation can fly it's planes over Libya ? Just a simple warning is enough.
when Blackman has a Strongman behind him his voice will be strong, when he has a place to compare to the enemies he will have pride, when he takes control of his nations he will have power.
A black Iranian said something some years ago to me during one of our discussions, he said Africa has more power over Europe than any other continent, assuming we are Black Conscious, and some silly nation messes with us, we can play with his economy all we want, cause catastrophic job losses and the riots that follows it by just withholding vital materials to their industry, raising or lowering prices and dictating the market, infact a Conscious Black Africa becomes Europe's king maker, look at Europe and tell me what they really have, almost nothing, at least not enough to make them live comfortably as Gambia, They can't suck up to Russia and they can't fight him either.
All those years of Anger,Marches,talks and protests by African Americans and British Americans what can they achieve ? They will still ask those whites for handouts, they don't own anything, they can't dictate anything, they can't influence anything, they are just asking for mercy…now you can't say this for continental Africa, we own our lands and whats inside it,we can dictate a lot,we can influence a lot and we sure are not asking for mercy.
Finally keep in mind that most of the freedoms the African Americans enjoyed were a direct result of the Communist Threat and the Agitations for independence in colonial Africa.

See, for a super-power to come out of Africa, it has to happen in three stages:

1). Reverberation of consciousness - the mind and mentality.
2). Creation of working nation states with the right system of government.
3). Economics/money and harnessing of the abundant resources on the continent.

Africa countries have to get these three things in order before they can even develop militarily to project any sort of power. And all African countries are still very far behind. Africa right now is more or less a place that feeds the world, but can't feed itself nor do for self.

Also, I don't know why folks always disregard black diaspora, especially from consciousness and economics/money perspective. Black diaspora understands the white man and white supremacy/privilege better than black Africans. And to turn the tide against white imperialism/exploitation on the continent - Africa needs the consciousness of black diaspora. Then from economics/money perspective - the GDP of African Americans alone, at $2.2 trillion, is larger than the GDP of all African countries combined. Now imagine the GDP of the whole black diaspora, the purchasing power and what investing that on the continent would do to the place.

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Shymm3x: 9:08pm On Jun 07, 2015
PabloAfricanus:
@Shymmex and others...my type of thread!
My contributions...

For starters, let's analyse the challenges and problems facing blacks in the States and africa.

The most important ingredient for any political organization or any group of people at all is finance...to be more specific independent finance. Loyalty, commitment and dedication to group goals have been proved by history to be subject to the forces of demand and supply. People have needs and wants...meet them and they're yours to use. When push comes to shove, survival instincts will always take precedent over "principles", "ethics" and all such sophistries.

The setup of the USA and the mechanism of global finance has ruled out the blacks from the game. The Fed is a privately controlled franchise, the stock and commodity exchanges are all owned by the same dynasties that came from England and Europe, the bigger game of forex and credit facilities is a Jewish game. These turfs are not accessible in any direct manner to the blacks. The dollars are printed for acquisition of any strategic assets deemed useful...shipped to the designated banks...disbursed to the trusted white establishment companies...backed by the white establishment judges and justices...enforced by white establishment military forces. The black man is a mere observer in this game. The white man does not need to work to "create" money or wealth...they own and control all the apparatus for asset creation, acquisition, valuation and ownership.
If you understand the above, then the near futility of the black mans efforts to challenge the white establishment will dawn on you.

The only thing the white establishment fears is the rage, anger and wrath of the alpha black male. They know its a force of nature. They also know the majority of black males appear to lack the intellectual capacity to accomplish any political, military or economic goal.
Current and ongoing efforts are on course to completely emasculate the black males...and the males of all other groups.
Hip hop is already a pink business, stars are groomed and launched by the puppet masters. Absurdities are crafted and marketed as "normal". Not many know Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga are trannies. Most of the stars out there are sexually compromised puppets used to drive social engineering projects. These are the idols your kids worship and adore. The fruits of social engineering are already with us...as societal backlash against departures from established norms is muted and repressed.
Its deemed "uncool" and "bigotry" and "hateful".

The dollar is just a designated storage of value agreed on by the white powers that be to drive trade and commerce. It is the primary duty of the military, secret service,the courts and the crew in Washington to protect and preserve the dollar. Without the dollar as the weapon of control...the game collapses...as loyalty and commitment will shift to whomever can guarantee the "creation" of money and wealth. In other words...its the oldest racket in existence.
Wars are just a mechanism to clear out rotten debts and enforce compliance to repayment of debts.
So long as the blacks are dependent on "earning dollars" to pay for anything whatsoever...they're slaves to the system and can always be punished, manipulated and coerced into submission.

Second, you need a strong ideological,religious and philosophical base to build a cohesive society. For the Greeks/Anglo-Saxons/Celtics it was their mythologies, gods, demi-gods, semi-divine kings, authority of their priests and priestesses. These are the heritage native peoples indentify with and rally around. This is the subconscious energy that drives and sustains any society or ethnic group. To lose this would leave any tribe anchorless and without direction. This is the secret of the "Jewish" establishment...which has totally taken over the Anglo-Saxon/Celtic establishment. The Jewish mythological and religious ethos resonates more with man's collective unconscious than any other "religion" known to man. Its a carefully researched and crafted mythology. Without the mandate of their "god" and his "laws"...their is no drive or reason to live a certain way of life.

The majority black leaders of any repute in the world are either Prince Hall Masons, Scottish/York rite masons, shriners or any of the gang of freemason affiliates. This is where the minds and souls of leaders are owned and controlled. Its a "Jewish" thing...albeit controlled by the white establishment. This is where guiding thoughts, strategies and principles for any particular decade are formulated and acted out.
The blacks are already owned...as they have no guiding ethos, religion or mythology to form a group consciousness around. Study Elijah Muhammad's works and compare them to published Sufist ideologies...same old Kabalistic ideas repackaged. The NOI is a subsidiary of American Freemasonry...nothing original was brought to the table by Elijah Muhammad or his followers...infact they borrowed it all from the Hermetic and Sufist philosophies taught them.
So long as the blacks have submitted themselves to the sky daddy religions of the Islamists and their Jewish cousins...so long as their ethos and spiritual values are dictated by the White adopters of the mystical traditions of the East...so long as their minds and thoughts will be owned and controlled by their masters.

Finally, you need science, technology and a strong military to establish any successful society. We blacks care more about the latest Kardarshian gossip than about the latest arms deals going on between the leading nations of the world. While strong and aspiring-to-be-strong nations like Iran and N.Korea are negotiating their places at the global casino tables...we blacks care more about "keeping it real" and silly reality shows. We are more interested in NBA distractions, video games, street credibility than the game of power. Better to leave such things to the whites who understand it. Why bother?
Nations are busy securing their present and future sovereignty by investing in weapons research, training and fitting disciplined military units, developing and refining military doctrines...while we would rather do the East Coast vs West Coast thingy. Heck even our so called graduates are content with that tag...you know for the bragging rights of having attended college. They have no clue as to the practicability of whatever they were taught!

The blacks need to MAKE and CREATE their own history.
Ponder for a minute on how the Europeans carved up and partitioned ENTIRE CONTINENTS into countries of their own naming and likes.
Subjugated entire empires and subcontinents using a mere handful of men. Amazing aint it?

If they can do it...the blacks can even do better.

Our current course is on a journey to nowhere...filled with chapters of ignorance, victimization, betrayals, pain, poverty, defeat and failure.
That reality needs to be changed and replaced with a better one. It will require GREAT SACRIFICES in blood and resources...but the coming generations...history...posterity...will tell the story.
The same way current world history is the story of the Europeans and their descendants.

My 2 cents.

Great analysis - the future is bright.

It's great to see that a lot of black folks now understand (black)economics. White supremacy only understands MONEY and VIOLENCE, and to get the respect we deserve, we just have to get our finances/economics/money right.

Hotep, brother.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Shymm3x: 9:10pm On Jun 07, 2015
gatiano:
I was just about to do the same Brother, only not the way you did it. The way you did and presented it was perfect. It shows Your Love for the people and Your commitment to the group of the Original people. God Bless You.

I wanted to lay emphasis on the place where Minister Louis Farrakhan, said that the CDC (center for disease control) developed a vaccine to poison the little Black children right from birth. It is genetically modified to attack the Black people, especially the Black male by injecting a vaccine with high amount of mercury into the Babies while their parents aren't paying attention. And this mercury goes straight up the brains.. (that is pure evil), and when we call these people what they really which is the devil, only Black people get mad.
Every Black Nigerian woman wants to give birth to their babies in europe and america, and i know the same thing is already going on in African hospitals. Our doctors and nurses are extremely lazy, and the pharmacists are no where to be found, they don't test the drugs(medications) that are coming in.


@ bold - very scary.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Shymm3x: 9:22pm On Jun 07, 2015
cap28:

And you exhibit what is popularly known as herd mentality - a mindless and slavish adoration of what you perceive as the current trend without any thought as to why that thing is a trend in the first place.

You are a typical mind controlled negro, hooked on materialism and consumerism. You go crazy at the sight of flashy cars, expensive clothes and strippers and in your small mind you think that those things are what denote success. Success is not about any of those things, and as Farrakhan correctly said in one of the videos you posted one person can never rise above the condition of his people. The fact that Kanye West and Mayweather drive bugattis or wear designer clothes will not stop your boss at work from treating you like crap or firing you simply because he doesn't want to see your black face around him anymore. It also wont stop a police officer from stopping and searching you simply because you are black and it wont stop a white woman in the street from clutching on to her bag when you walk past her, so why are you still desperately trying to ride on the coat tails of two people who have done absolutely nothing for you, except remind you how rich they are and how poor you are?
I mean when was the last time that Kanye WEst used some of his millions to build schools in the black community or award scholarships to underprivileged black kids? We already know that Mayweather doesn't consider Africa as his ancestral home and feels more at home in strip clubs than around his own people so theres no point asking the same question of him. But what I cant understand is why you seem to think that individual financial success of two of the biggest slaves of the white corporate machine equates to collective success of the black man every where in the world.

Utter bollocks!

You don't understand economics and I doubt you'll ever do. All you're good at is moaning, moaning, and moaning. Apart from moaning about the infamous "white devil" - can you proffer any solution whatsoever, since nothing is good enough for you?

A black man was able to create a net-worth of $600million, by creating an image, and owning his own company - with other black folks around him - thus keeping the money in his community. But that isn't good enough for you, despite the fact that he has been able to create a model/structure in the sector other black boxers can emulate - thus cutting off white/Jewish executives and promoters who exploit them. Then you have got another black man with his own record label and creative control over everything he works on in the fashion world, who is still harnessing his skills, so that when the networking is right - he can create a black owned urban outfit that can maximise the urban world created by black folks via hip-hop. But that also isn't good enough for you. Like seriously, proffer ya own solution and let us see.


Tupac the Malcolm X of rap? Er I don't think so. I don't remember Tupac openly denouncing the system of white supremacy, I don't remember Tupac sacrificing everything he had in order to uplift black americans and get them a better deal in life, infact all I remember Tupac doing was triggering a meaningless east coast west coast feud and getting into gun fights with other black men. Black men are very good at fighting each other but not fighting their real enemy. Malcolm didn't waste his time fighting other black men, he fought the white establishment which in my book is the real fight that blacks should be focusing on. So stop with the delusional fairy stories about Tupac being conscious - he wasn't conscious he was just out to make money, yes he sang about social ills and police brutality but that did not make him conscious, Chuck D was conscious, Akala is conscious, Talib kweli, Immortal Technique are conscious. Tupac messed about with white women, drugs and alcohol, disrespected black women in his music and rapped about killing his fellow black brothers - conscious? I think not . Comparing Tupac to Malcolm X is like comparing Lil Wayne to Marcus Garvey!

Lol. The fact that Tupac is the most influential artist of any genre of all time, especially to inner city youths across the globe speaks for itself. He made tunes for everything...you'll never understand cos nothing can ever be good from ya POV. Critique the white man, critique black folks trying to do something - all you ever do is critique. No one is perfect, but when folks stand for noble causes, just appreciate them, man.

Cap28, please, proffer solutions to the predicament of black folks. Tell us what you think black folks can do to counter white supremacy/privilege.

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by gatiano(m): 10:26pm On Jun 07, 2015
Tribe is darkness and in the very negative way of nature.
Nation is light(knowledge)
When the paleskins were tribes(goths, normandy, brits, scots, slavics etc), they were in perpertual darkness. They became a nation and light came into them until 1914, when they began to split again.

We must become a nation again. Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Hutsi, Tutsi etc all around the globe only define our languages, They are not nation on their own, they will never be.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by thoth: 5:36am On Jun 08, 2015
Now this is Solid.
PabloAfricanus:


Bro, I understand what you're saying...
Its true...black folks care more about survival than any Uncle Tom do goody talks. Yeah...
And the majority are scared stiff of the ensuing punishments of the "law" and "disturbing the peace".
The rest just comment and take no action.

A starting point would be to recognize that we are not all the same and are at different "intellectual levels"...so to speak.
The so-called preaching by the NOI cannot be for the consumption of the average man...and that is NOT being elitist. It is for those who are willing to die for a cause they believe in. Not all can pay the price or stand the heat.
Preaching with all that intensity is just asking from broken people what they do not have and cannot give.

That's why I tag all such preachers as folks who flatter themselves and make a name out of it. They love hearing themselves talk. And their listeners love the escapism and glamour of it all...cos it leads to no action and no changes at the end of the day.
True revolutionaries and radicals do not make themselves known to the law...they always operate under masks and proxies. Safety first...a drowning man cannot save another drowning man.
I used to abhor so-called secret societies/fraternities...such as the Templars, Jesuits, Freemasons...until I became a better student of human nature and history.

Because greed, selfishness, sabotage and weakness are parts of man's inherited attributes...men will always take the easier route when possible.
You cannot hand over power or responsibility to someone who is not obligated to you. Its common sense.
The NOI is a lost cause...its always been a recruiting ground for FBI and CIA black operatives and snitches.

All effective pressure groups and revolutionary movements have been secret and hidden...most have public fronts with fancy titles and goals. Some even have religious affiliations for public consumption. That is the only known effective way to effect changes against a ruling majority who are opposed to you. The Freemasons changed the course of Europe by cutting the link between the State and the papacy...while being good sons of the Roman church. The Templars introduced credit, Arabian-Sufist enlightenment...all anathema to the papacy by disguising themselves as servants of the church.

Its a game of deception and subterfuge...deadly in the short and long term...but abundantly rewarding to the victors.
You need a few men of honor and enlightenment...who understand what IS IMPORTANT...and are willing to pay the price.
Any other thing else...is just entertainment and sensationalism.

My opinion.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by thoth: 5:49am On Jun 08, 2015
Shymm3x:


See, for a super-power to come out of Africa, it has to happen in three stages:

1). Reverberation of consciousness - the mind and mentality.
It will be extremely foolish to disregard the Blacks outside continental Africa, they hold the knowledge that Africans need,heck majority of Africans don't even understand racism, they treat whites like Gods . So i am not disregarding the Blacks outside African Rather i am saying that such movements should focus in Africa because the Power lies in Africa. They should infuse the lessons they learnt from their experience to Africans, point out the tricks,guide and educate the Africans cus they know whites more than Africans do.
There are men already working against the neocolonial establishment as we speak, you can't imagine how helpful it would be to those guys if the people becomes enlightened just a bit.

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Nobody: 1:01pm On Jun 09, 2015
PabloAfricanus:
@Shymmex and others...my type of thread!
My contributions...

For starters, let's analyse the challenges and problems facing blacks in the States and africa.

The most important ingredient for any political organization or any group of people at all is finance...to be more specific independent finance. Loyalty, commitment and dedication to group goals have been proved by history to be subject to the forces of demand and supply. People have needs and wants...meet them and they're yours to use. When push comes to shove, survival instincts will always take precedent over "principles", "ethics" and all such sophistries.

The setup of the USA and the mechanism of global finance has ruled out the blacks from the game. The Fed is a privately controlled franchise, the stock and commodity exchanges are all owned by the same dynasties that came from England and Europe, the bigger game of forex and credit facilities is a Jewish game. These turfs are not accessible in any direct manner to the blacks. The dollars are printed for acquisition of any strategic assets deemed useful...shipped to the designated banks...disbursed to the trusted white establishment companies...backed by the white establishment judges and justices...enforced by white establishment military forces. The black man is a mere observer in this game. The white man does not need to work to "create" money or wealth...they own and control all the apparatus for asset creation, acquisition, valuation and ownership.
If you understand the above, then the near futility of the black mans efforts to challenge the white establishment will dawn on you.

The only thing the white establishment fears is the rage, anger and wrath of the alpha black male. They know its a force of nature. They also know the majority of black males appear to lack the intellectual capacity to accomplish any political, military or economic goal.
Current and ongoing efforts are on course to completely emasculate the black males...and the males of all other groups.
Hip hop is already a pink business, stars are groomed and launched by the puppet masters. Absurdities are crafted and marketed as "normal". Not many know Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga are trannies. Most of the stars out there are sexually compromised puppets used to drive social engineering projects. These are the idols your kids worship and adore. The fruits of social engineering are already with us...as societal backlash against departures from established norms is muted and repressed.
Its deemed "uncool" and "bigotry" and "hateful".

The dollar is just a designated storage of value agreed on by the white powers that be to drive trade and commerce. It is the primary duty of the military, secret service,the courts and the crew in Washington to protect and preserve the dollar. Without the dollar as the weapon of control...the game collapses...as loyalty and commitment will shift to whomever can guarantee the "creation" of money and wealth. In other words...its the oldest racket in existence.
Wars are just a mechanism to clear out rotten debts and enforce compliance to repayment of debts.
So long as the blacks are dependent on "earning dollars" to pay for anything whatsoever...they're slaves to the system and can always be punished, manipulated and coerced into submission.

Second, you need a strong ideological,religious and philosophical base to build a cohesive society. For the Greeks/Anglo-Saxons/Celtics it was their mythologies, gods, demi-gods, semi-divine kings, authority of their priests and priestesses. These are the heritage native peoples indentify with and rally around. This is the subconscious energy that drives and sustains any society or ethnic group. To lose this would leave any tribe anchorless and without direction. This is the secret of the "Jewish" establishment...which has totally taken over the Anglo-Saxon/Celtic establishment. The Jewish mythological and religious ethos resonates more with man's collective unconscious than any other "religion" known to man. Its a carefully researched and crafted mythology. Without the mandate of their "god" and his "laws"...their is no drive or reason to live a certain way of life.

The majority black leaders of any repute in the world are either Prince Hall Masons, Scottish/York rite masons, shriners or any of the gang of freemason affiliates. This is where the minds and souls of leaders are owned and controlled. Its a "Jewish" thing...albeit controlled by the white establishment. This is where guiding thoughts, strategies and principles for any particular decade are formulated and acted out.
The blacks are already owned...as they have no guiding ethos, religion or mythology to form a group consciousness around. Study Elijah Muhammad's works and compare them to published Sufist ideologies...same old Kabalistic ideas repackaged. The NOI is a subsidiary of American Freemasonry...nothing original was brought to the table by Elijah Muhammad or his followers...infact they borrowed it all from the Hermetic and Sufist philosophies taught them.
So long as the blacks have submitted themselves to the sky daddy religions of the Islamists and their Jewish cousins...so long as their ethos and spiritual values are dictated by the White adopters of the mystical traditions of the East...so long as their minds and thoughts will be owned and controlled by their masters.

Finally, you need science, technology and a strong military to establish any successful society. We blacks care more about the latest Kardarshian gossip than about the latest arms deals going on between the leading nations of the world. While strong and aspiring-to-be-strong nations like Iran and N.Korea are negotiating their places at the global casino tables...we blacks care more about "keeping it real" and silly reality shows. We are more interested in NBA distractions, video games, street credibility than the game of power. Better to leave such things to the whites who understand it. Why bother?
Nations are busy securing their present and future sovereignty by investing in weapons research, training and fitting disciplined military units, developing and refining military doctrines...while we would rather do the East Coast vs West Coast thingy. Heck even our so called graduates are content with that tag...you know for the bragging rights of having attended college. They have no clue as to the practicability of whatever they were taught!

The blacks need to MAKE and CREATE their own history.
Ponder for a minute on how the Europeans carved up and partitioned ENTIRE CONTINENTS into countries of their own naming and likes.
Subjugated entire empires and subcontinents using a mere handful of men. Amazing aint it?

If they can do it...the blacks can even do better.

Our current course is on a journey to nowhere...filled with chapters of ignorance, victimization, betrayals, pain, poverty, defeat and failure.
That reality needs to be changed and replaced with a better one. It will require GREAT SACRIFICES in blood and resources...but the coming generations...history...posterity...will tell the story.
The same way current world history is the story of the Europeans and their descendants.

My 2 cents.
Read the words of a real wise nigga, much respect minister
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by igbo2011(m): 1:54am On Jun 11, 2015
Until Global Africans around the world think like these people, we will never be free. This type of thinking should be the norm and not "radival".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bICyqYa8pTs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxZbm-31PdM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmNJTXKsNXI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLjhmSaw_V8
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by AAinEqGuinea: 2:37am On Jun 11, 2015
Fvck white ppl for the moment. Biafra's got my attention

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Dollyak(f): 3:25am On Jun 11, 2015
BackDatAssUp:
Farakhan works for the CIA.

He was involved in Malcolm X's death.


The Nation of Islam is nothing more than a prison protection racket and snitch unit for the Feds.


Their doctrine also sucks balls.

What are you on about? Saying Farahkan works for CIA has to be the most bizarre conspiracy ever.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Dollyak(f): 3:29am On Jun 11, 2015
AAinEqGuinea:


Don't get me started on Obama wink but in fairness he's running the entire country. Maybe on another topic I'll get more detailed on my criticism of Obama. Obama could help with this black plight, but I'm not expecting him to. Too many Blacks local politicians have failed Blacks for too long. But aside from Obama, every modern black leader has failed miserably, speaking specifically about the newer breed of fraudulent self-indulging failures. They always seem to drop some recycled jewels originally spoken by beards from AA history, which Is what makes them dangerous because too many blacks unknowingly ascribe old knowledge to the modern frauds. Take this clown Tariq Nasheed for example, believing he's a Marcus Garvey incarnate, has now turned against those who are really like him (Polight, Sa neter, Hebrews, etc) but I'm not surprised because with time I'd know Tariq was simply peddling hidden colors as his lucrative hustle. Ask any African how much did a simple lesson in their own history cost them. These modern "pro-black" movements has turned into a hustle, a safety-net hustle for when all other hustles have dried up, knowing you can always marginally profit off black ppl with a new approach to pro-blackness, clouded with their own cockamamie interpretations of modern events, simply to capitalize off the romance idea of black unity. Yes, sadly we need money, but considering the seriousness surrounding the reason to guide the lost sheep you've mentioned, this effort shouldn't be done as someone's profit-seeking hustle. The Boondocks even lampooned the profit-seeking efforts with the character Rollo Goodlove. Pure genius series. grin

It's not always about exploiting black unity for profit, was crusading for the Arab's religion more than black unity, which became the silver lining to them killing Malcolm X. His people haven't done anything monumentous since, but talk... But Blacks fall in love with personality rather than logic, so he's somehow still relevant and getting softer.
This was by far his biggest downfall.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Shymm3x: 10:45am On Jun 11, 2015
Dollyak:

This was by far his biggest downfall.

How?
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by gatiano(m): 12:32pm On Jun 11, 2015
PEACE, Has any of us experienced what peace felt like? I have and for not more than one (1) second. Peace is a powerful force on its own, It is so powerful that it can move anything and everything.

PEACE, Many of us think we are in peace at a time or the other, We are and were very wrong, for we misinterpret Order for Peace. We are so much in chaos that we don't longer know or understand the differences, afterall, according to the whiteman, order is gotten out of chaos, that is right in terms of destroying and rebuilding, but the whiteman don't mean it that way, what they mean is simply keep order, they will kill, maim, rape to create their own version of order. Their form of order is for them to be at the top of the pyramid and the Black people at the bottom, If we conform to this, then their can be "order", if we don't, they would make chaos to bring about the order (which is exactly what is going on now).

When I experienced this PEACE which was not more than a second, I understood the non-blacks fully, expecially the white people. Know it for a fact, and its 100%, They do not want peace, they can't survive peace, the force of it was too heavy on them and still will be heavy on them, it will kill them all except the ones amongst them who will take the righteousness of the Blackman (the right thinking or right thought of the Blackman).
So, they(whiteman) has spent everything in its might to ensure that there must never be peace, there GDP spending is mostly on ensuring no peace but to make order.

So, I understood why The Nation of Islam carries no weapons, not even a blade, and we don't need it at all.

How can we get or achieve this PEACE? We can get it without using one bullet, or protesting around like herds of cows crying for acceptance from the white community and non-blacks. Why should the Nation Of Islam be there when they are against integration? wouldn't that be hypocrisy? I won't be there either, I feel very bad for those brothers and sisters being murdered on a regular basis, at the same time, A part in my mind is saying, perhaps they would learn their lessons by seperating and most importantly mental seperation. If not, they can enjoy been killed and murdered like chickens and very soon, when I'm tired, I will begin to cheers to it (May God forgive me).

Elijah Muhammad gave them all the recipe, for winning the war against chaos. Amongst all the books He wrote, He wrote one book twice, called "How to eat to live, 1 and 2". Well, Black people in their usual state of mind went to check with their white doctors first and in recent time google. As much as this improves our health astronomically, Its importance is far more greater than that, It is a military strategy bu quiet. You would definitely be corruptless, You would fully understand necessities from needs and from wants, You never spend 1 kobo or cent not accounted for properly, You will be so light to the extent that You would understand what Elijah Muhammad meant when He said We Black people are all Allah, because you would connect with the real You.

So How can this PEACE be attained? THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY, AND THAT IS UNITY, Black people for eons have only lived by the code of UNITY. There is no other choice, no mathematical or scientific or humanities or social adjustment can create the peace, only we will use it to make order for the whiteman to control. Thus, no choice else.
It is through unity (Black unity) that Peace will come. As light emits photons ,so does Black unity emits Peace. It is constant.
When The peace is finally achieved, Black people grow and develop, Your/Our/My body won't allow me to sit around doing nothing or doing something not constructive. Each and everyone of us (Both Men and Women) will have a special specialty that he/she must contribute. In 10 years, we will tour the universe mechanically, for it is the easiest way of travelling the universe.

What does the whiteman do? he causes disunity constantly within us, he sets our gaze constantly on their filth and foo lishness. they spy on us constantly, One of them must be on this very tread watching and will try to cause confusion.

Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Hutsi, Akan, Zulu etc are not more than a language fixed on that geographical location. We Black people all over the earth are One Nation.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by PabloAfricanus(m): 5:34pm On Jun 11, 2015
gatiano:
PEACE, Has any of us experienced what peace felt like? I have and for not more than one (1) second. Peace is a powerful force on its own, It is so powerful that it can move anything and everything.

PEACE, Many of us think we are in peace at a time or the other, We are and were very wrong, for we misinterpret Order for Peace. We are so much in chaos that we don't longer know or understand the differences, afterall, according to the whiteman, order is gotten out of chaos, that is right in terms of destroying and rebuilding, but the whiteman don't mean it that way, what they mean is simply keep order, they will kill, maim, rape to create their own version of order. Their form of order is for them to be at the top of the pyramid and the Black people at the bottom, If we conform to this, then their can be "order", if we don't, they would make chaos to bring about the order (which is exactly what is going on now).

When I experienced this PEACE which was not more than a second, I understood the non-blacks fully, expecially the white people. Know it for a fact, and its 100%, They do not want peace, they can't survive peace, the force of it was too heavy on them and still will be heavy on them, it will kill them all except the ones amongst them who will take the righteousness of the Blackman (the right thinking or right thought of the Blackman).
So, they(whiteman) has spent everything in its might to ensure that there must never be peace, there GDP spending is mostly on ensuring no peace but to make order.

So, I understood why The Nation of Islam carries no weapons, not even a blade, and we don't need it at all.

How can we get or achieve this PEACE? We can get it without using one bullet, or protesting around like herds of cows crying for acceptance from the white community and non-blacks. Why should the Nation Of Islam be there when they are against integration? wouldn't that be hypocrisy? I won't be there either, I feel very bad for those brothers and sisters being murdered on a regular basis, at the same time, A part in my mind is saying, perhaps they would learn their lessons by seperating and most importantly mental seperation. If not, they can enjoy been killed and murdered like chickens and very soon, when I'm tired, I will begin to cheers to it (May God forgive me).

Elijah Muhammad gave them all the recipe, for winning the war against chaos. Amongst all the books He wrote, He wrote one book twice, called "How to eat to live, 1 and 2". Well, Black people in their usual state of mind went to check with their white doctors first and in recent time google. As much as this improves our health astronomically, Its importance is far more greater than that, It is a military strategy bu quiet. You would definitely be corruptless, You would fully understand necessities from needs and from wants, You never spend 1 kobo or cent not accounted for properly, You will be so light to the extent that You would understand what Elijah Muhammad meant when He said We Black people are all Allah, because you would connect with the real You.

So How can this PEACE be attained? THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY, AND THAT IS UNITY, Black people for eons have only lived by the code of UNITY. There is no other choice, no mathematical or scientific or humanities or social adjustment can create the peace, only we will use it to make order for the whiteman to control. Thus, no choice else.
It is through unity (Black unity) that Peace will come. As light emits photons ,so does Black unity emits Peace. It is constant.
When The peace is finally achieved, Black people grow and develop, Your/Our/My body won't allow me to sit around doing nothing or doing something not constructive. Each and everyone of us (Both Men and Women) will have a special specialty that he/she must contribute. In 10 years, we will tour the universe mechanically, for it is the easiest way of travelling the universe.

What does the whiteman do? he causes disunity constantly within us, he sets our gaze constantly on their filth and foo lishness. they spy on us constantly, One of them must be on this very tread watching and will try to cause confusion.

Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Hutsi, Akan, Zulu etc are not more than a language fixed on that geographical location. We Black people all over the earth are One Nation.

Bro while I like such nice sounding write-ups, I don't think they're what we need now.
It's like a very hungry traveller stopping by at a lodge on the road...expecting to get some food.
He meets a man who sits him down and starts lecturing him on the wonderful effects of taking foods rich
in vitamins, proteins etc. He describes whole grain foods, white meat vs red meat, red wine vs beer,
green vegs vs cooked vegs, low carb vs high carb diets...and so on.
He even includes descriptions of the menus found in McDonald's outlets somewhere out there,
he regales the hungry traveller with fantastic stories of how you can just sit and order anything on the menu,
how the waiters will themselves bring the food to your table...and so on.
Two hours into the interesting discussion, the hungry traveler realizes he has not seen any food and the talker probably
has no food to give. When asked if he has been to any of the places he mentioned, the talker starts quoting from books
and pamphlets describing those places. When asked if he has tasted any of the foods he's been describing, the talker
opens an encyclopedia of foods to look for answers.

You see...you cannot give what you don't have.
You cannot show what you have not seen.
You cannot lead where you have not been.
A fellow slave in chains cannot be preaching "freedom and liberty" to fellow slaves in chains.
He can only encourage them to join hands and break their chains.
While it takes faith and courage to embark on risky adventures...no promises can be made...the invitation at that
stage is to dare and reap the profits.
These self flattering "charismatic leaders" have been schooled in social engineering and human psychology of the Europeans.
When they're done talking, the old reality still remains and you're subconsciously led to accept it as your lot.


That write-up you quoted is a NO-ACTION, EMASCULATING and PACIFIST drivel.
It's the kind of stories a sweet talking con man tells a hungry traveller in the middle of the desert.
Its the kind of stories the European priests and clergy told our fore-fathers...just before they forced them at GUN POINT,
surrounded by WAR SHIPS and SPECIAL FORCES SOLDIERS to sign over their lands IN PERPETUITY to the crown of England.

When you're done reading such sweet fairy tales that do nothing but excite your mind...you neither have gained knowledge
nor solutions to problems confronting you. You're not even challenged to be a man and face the reality of your situation.
It is an inviolable law of life and nature that the SUPERIOR RULES THE INFERIOR.
That is not a philosophical saying. That means only the STRONGEST SURVIVE.
The Whites have DEVELOPED superior knowledge and mental abilities...you have to acknowledge it and accord them that respect.
My message is that the black man...if he so desires...and can be disciplined and astute enough to accomplish it,
can also develop SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE and MENTAL ABILITIES.
That means abilities to research and build technology that can change the face of the world.
A hundred or less years from now, what we know as advanced technology will be seen to be antiquated.
The exact same way no one buys black and white TVs any more.
Nuclear bombs, hydrogen bombs,atomic bombs, cluster bombs...can all be bested. It might not be in this generation, but
desperate minds will find a way. Those who SEEK AND DARE will find their own ways to solve their own problems.

It was never about peace or love or justice. Its ALWAYS about dominion, power and wealth. Someone has to rule.Never forget that.
You can only talk about peace when you have won a battle and secured your winnings.
You can only talk about love when you have encountered and transcended bitterness and hatred.
You can only talk about justice when you either have it or can give it.
It all boils down to man and what he does in his world.
All those other wordly trash marketed as "religious" and "spiritual"
won't be remembered when USAFRICOM decide to invade any African nation of their choice.
There is always a crown and someone has to wear it.
You are either born into it, or its given to you, or you take it by force.
That's what it is...it is the way of the world.

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by gatiano(m): 6:52pm On Jun 11, 2015
I understand everything that you wrote, It is logical, and infact what Man should do for his own development. But not wise enough, Why do I say so? It is because You have not considered the character of your opponent, you do not know or understand their moves.

In a war time, A People must understand the principal objectives and aims of their opponent or opponents, without that, The people may win most of the battle and yet loose the war against a weak opponent. This was the case of whites and non-black invading the Black people of the earth. They could never stand us in any war, but they knew and understood their aims and objectives. So they'd come in peacefully in submission, Before they entered mainland Africa, They had done this with the Black people in the Northeast Africa (middle east), They did the same to the Blacks in India who were the original settlers, Everywhere they went, we were already there, They have through the indian ocean entered the south of the African continent (persians). What they learnt is where our strength and power came from, It came from our Elders. Our Elders set the law and rules of the land. All White and non-black did was to create a friction between the youth and the Elders. It worked, Our Elders were wise, they saw what happened, So they left us alone to learn. Afterall, the earth belonged to us.

Another was that in Africa (mainland), We developed only that which we needed, there was no need to make a gun or bullets, we weren't fighting anybody. Nobody would just try to cross the sahara, so we didn't know what happen on the other end of the sahara, the white's just came with their guns and ships and mullatoes plus thousands of years experienced they've had with dealing and deceiving the Blacks of middle-east and India. Let cut the history short, they got us , they did and that is it.

But they made sure that our mind was twisted forever. We now have a mind that is not ours, we see with another man's eyes what he wants to see. If a blackman makes a drug to cure HIV or Ebola, We will need for the whiteman to say YES to it, if they don't, then it shall be discarded, so many things unknown that has been created by us black people have been discarded without our knowledge.

What you have written in most is still begging for integration and acceptance into the whiteman's house. Maybe, you think when we build and develop our infrastructures and places, they would respect us and accept us, that is because you do not still understand their objective and aims.

Do you want to fight and go to battle with them now? They will be so happy to oblige, they don't need to put their boys on the battle field, they would just pitch the Igbos against the Yoruba, and the Ashanti against the Akan etc, when everything has ended, only our black daughters would be left for the takings. They need them, white population is dieing off, very soon, they will be no more but clones of them.

Do you want to build infrastructures, that would be bad for their dominance, and market, they must by all means keep us dependent on their 2nd hand products and bad services that we pay twice and thrice more for. Haven't you learn, that when you build it, they sabotage it or sanction the hell out of your economy, and if it doesn't help which is in most cases, they invade; just like in Libya, they want to do the same in North-korea. how much less YOU/ME a Blackman. Theyonly thing is to award them contracts to build the bad services and 2nd hand stuffs for us.

So what do you suggest in this instances? I say the usual way (every blackman for himself)-it leads to death.

The only Black Nation is The Nation Of Islam(i hope you don't abuse, i am not a member of them), yes, they are the only nation. Following behind them may or might be Zimbabwe. all other are a coagulations of tribes. tribes=darkness and lack of knowledge.

Louis Farrakhan don't bow to no white punks, It hurts the white people badly. They do take care of themselves, they don't beg nobody, they are self-sufficient. They got loans at good interest rates and have paid back or paying back accordingly. All the other Black nation is owing imf or /and world bank. some leaders are unjustly jailed.

Get onto your own, love self, study self, study your enemies. It had worked for me perfectly, but it would completely when we Unite.

Like i said, Maybe you don't understand what peace means. It is also our weapon.

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Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by gtnofllwr: 7:08pm On Jun 11, 2015
gatiano:
PEACE, Has any of us experienced what peace felt like? I have and for not more than one (1) second. Peace is a powerful force on its own, It is so powerful that it can move anything and everything.

PEACE, Many of us think we are in peace at a time or the other, We are and were very wrong, for we misinterpret Order for Peace. We are so much in chaos that we don't longer know or understand the differences, afterall, according to the whiteman, order is gotten out of chaos, that is right in terms of destroying and rebuilding, but the whiteman don't mean it that way, what they mean is simply keep order, they will kill, maim, rape to create their own version of order. Their form of order is for them to be at the top of the pyramid and the Black people at the bottom, If we conform to this, then their can be "order", if we don't, they would make chaos to bring about the order (which is exactly what is going on now).

When I experienced this PEACE which was not more than a second, I understood the non-blacks fully, expecially the white people. Know it for a fact, and its 100%, They do not want peace, they can't survive peace, the force of it was too heavy on them and still will be heavy on them, it will kill them all except the ones amongst them who will take the righteousness of the Blackman (the right thinking or right thought of the Blackman).
So, they(whiteman) has spent everything in its might to ensure that there must never be peace, there GDP spending is mostly on ensuring no peace but to make order.

So, I understood why The Nation of Islam carries no weapons, not even a blade, and we don't need it at all.

How can we get or achieve this PEACE? We can get it without using one bullet, or protesting around like herds of cows crying for acceptance from the white community and non-blacks. Why should the Nation Of Islam be there when they are against integration? wouldn't that be hypocrisy? I won't be there either, I feel very bad for those brothers and sisters being murdered on a regular basis, at the same time, A part in my mind is saying, perhaps they would learn their lessons by seperating and most importantly mental seperation. If not, they can enjoy been killed and murdered like chickens and very soon, when I'm tired, I will begin to cheers to it (May God forgive me).

Elijah Muhammad gave them all the recipe, for winning the war against chaos. Amongst all the books He wrote, He wrote one book twice, called "How to eat to live, 1 and 2". Well, Black people in their usual state of mind went to check with their white doctors first and in recent time google. As much as this improves our health astronomically, Its importance is far more greater than that, It is a military strategy bu quiet. You would definitely be corruptless, You would fully understand necessities from needs and from wants, You never spend 1 kobo or cent not accounted for properly, You will be so light to the extent that You would understand what Elijah Muhammad meant when He said We Black people are all Allah, because you would connect with the real You.

So How can this PEACE be attained? THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY, AND THAT IS UNITY, Black people for eons have only lived by the code of UNITY. There is no other choice, no mathematical or scientific or humanities or social adjustment can create the peace, only we will use it to make order for the whiteman to control. Thus, no choice else.
It is through unity (Black unity) that Peace will come. As light emits photons ,so does Black unity emits Peace. It is constant.
When The peace is finally achieved, Black people grow and develop, Your/Our/My body won't allow me to sit around doing nothing or doing something not constructive. Each and everyone of us (Both Men and Women) will have a special specialty that he/she must contribute. In 10 years, we will tour the universe mechanically, for it is the easiest way of travelling the universe.

What does the whiteman do? he causes disunity constantly within us, he sets our gaze constantly on their filth and foo lishness. they spy on us constantly, One of them must be on this very tread watching and will try to cause confusion.

Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Hutsi, Akan, Zulu etc are not more than a language fixed on that geographical location. We Black people all over the earth are One Nation.
Sir, what exactly is this unity that you speak of? Please be specific in political, social, economic, and spiritual terms. What is the roadmap to this unity? Do we have to take action or will it naturally come to pass? Thanks.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by Dollyak(f): 7:23pm On Jun 11, 2015
PabloAfricanus:


What's stopping you and your black leaders from telling the world how beautiful and lovely the blackman and his world is?
BET is not even a black controlled media channel.
How about creating your own thing?Do it and let's see!


Heck no sir! In the big scheme of things...the above guys are "LOSERS"...you read that right.
The role models that will inspire positive and liberating action are in the leagues of Shaka Zulu, Ahmadu Bello etc.
These were men of conquest and triumph. The part of me that detests warfare and bloodshed would agree...but then the world is what it is. Its a world of conquest and plunder. You need to be able to wage wars, fight decisive battles, claim territories, exploit other peoples, impose your laws on strange lands and generally lord it over others. I bet you if the whites had not given media coverage to the folks you listed...most blackmen wouldn't give a dam.n about them or whatever they stood for.





Maybe you didn't get the memo...I could CC you excerpts tho...
The white man does not you anything.
The white man doesn't owe it to you to be fair, just, kind, honest or straight forward.
He doesn't owe it to you to "appreciate black beauty"...or agree that your "broad nose and thick lips" are beautiful too.
He doesn't owe it to you to make sure perception of black people and their ways of life is positive.
The white man did not brave the dangers of the Atlantic crossing hundreds of years ago...the confrontations with the Native Indians...the cold and hunger of living in a new land...to "give justice, fairness or equity" to the black man.
They did not develop the vast land mass of North America
and Canada...so the black man could live on equal terms with them.
They took the land by force, killed off the natives, forced those they couldn't kill to sign off the land over in perpetuity to them and their heirs.
The black man was not and still is not part of their long term plans.
Its not a fair or just world...if you want justice or fairness...go get it!
All those defeatist excuses are just escape windows for cowards and those afraid to dare and die.





Show me the equivalent of the Egyptian pyramids in sub-saharan africa...not mud mounds. Don't also tell me about Sudan...cos ancient Egypt extended far...and migrants from Egypt took the customs along.
The people Alexander and his successors met in Egypt could not have been sub saharan africans.
By the time the Romans and Arabs took over...they were clearly a mixture of many peoples. And all of that had little or nothing to do with sub saharan africa.
If you doubt me...I could challenge you to give me the oral history of your ethnic group about the Giza pyramid.

Stop blaming the whites bro. They're just doing their thing...and they owe you no apologies.
The challenge is to do your own thing...if you can.
Strongly agree with all your points. As bad or unethical as it may sound, it is the biological survival of the fittest, of which they have been able to play to the fullest. I would rather we we play them at their own game than playing the self pitying game going on with most black folks.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by PabloAfricanus(m): 7:58pm On Jun 11, 2015
gatiano:

I understand everything that you wrote, It is logical, and infact what Man should do for his own development. But not wise enough, Why do I say so? It is because You have not considered the character of your opponent, you do not know or understand their moves.

In a war time, A People must understand the principal objectives and aims of their opponent or opponents, without that, The people may win most of the battle and yet loose the war against a weak opponent. This was the case of whites and non-black invading the Black people of the earth. They could never stand us in any war, but they knew and understood their aims and objectives. So they'd come in peacefully in submission, Before they entered mainland Africa, They had done this with the Black people in the Northeast Africa (middle east), They did the same to the Blacks in India who were the original settlers, Everywhere they went, we were already there, They have through the indian ocean entered the south of the African continent (persians). What they learnt is where our strength and power came from, It came from our Elders. Our Elders set the law and rules of the land. All White and non-black did was to create a friction between the youth and the Elders. It worked, Our Elders were wise, they saw what happened, So they left us alone to learn. Afterall, the earth belonged to us.

Another was that in Africa (mainland), We developed only that which we needed, there was no need to make a gun or bullets, we weren't fighting anybody. Nobody would just try to cross the sahara, so we didn't know what happen on the other end of the sahara, the white's just came with their guns and ships and mullatoes plus thousands of years experienced they've had with dealing and deceiving the Blacks of middle-east and India. Let cut the history short, they got us , they did and that is it.

But they made sure that our mind was twisted forever. We now have a mind that is not ours, we see with another man's eyes what he wants to see. If a blackman makes a drug to cure HIV or Ebola, We will need for the whiteman to say YES to it, if they don't, then it shall be discarded, so many things unknown that has been created by us black people have been discarded without our knowledge.
You are blaming the white man all over again for you inability to run a successful government and economy.
Stop blaming him for your inability to develop superior weapons and fighting ability to confront invaders on your territory.
Stop blaming him for your inability to think analyse threats, think strategically and come up with counter measures to moves
against your liberty, health and happiness.
You are blaming the invader for your unpreparedness to confront a stronger, more devious and more determined enemy.
As I have said in one of my replies, its a world of conquest and plunder.
If the whites lack a certain natural resource that is vital to their economy, they'd come for it by hook, crook or force of arms.
What are you gonna do if such natural resource is located in your village?
Even their sky daddy book should have told you how the "chosen ones" were led to take over the lands of the Philistines, Amalekites
and others...lands they said were "flowing with milk and honey".
If the natives and occupants of such lands were caught unawares...then that was the day their own jungle matured.
History does not issue apologies, so drop the victim mentality.

gatiano:

What you have written in most is still begging for integration and acceptance into the whiteman's house. Maybe, you think when we build and develop our infrastructures and places, they would respect us and accept us, that is because you do not still understand their objective and aims.
Lol...even your interpretation of my post shows you either do not understand me or you've resigned yourself to the tag they
gave you..."3rd world country".
The European countries of the world are not in Pluto or Jupiter...they are not peopled by aliens...they are peopled by
people with one head on their shoulders...ten fingers and ten toes...who eat and drink food grown on this earth.
They just happen to have different skin pigment from you.
There is nothing like "begging for integration and acceptance into the whiteman's house".
The world has moved ahead of Africa...you are not going to re-invent the wheel, the computer, telephones.
You can either stay behind of the global progress, stay ahead of the global progress or play catch up.
There is no middle ground.
Also, I think you are also forgetting what IS THE PROBLEM.
The problem you and I know...is bad home grown leadership, lack of infrastructure, ignorance, insecurity, poverty, mental slavery and the rest.
The causes of these ills range from self-inflicted,imported,acquired to "imposed by the colonialists".
Do not play the victims card of resigning yourself to defeat by claiming "uniqueness" or "specialness".
Africans need to build the ability to join the rest of the developed world in having vibrant economies, prosperous societies, strong militaries
and enlightened leaders.
Accomplishing the above has nothing to do with "they would respect us and accept us".
Its you taking charge of your own life.

gatiano:

Do you want to fight and go to battle with them now? They will be so happy to oblige, they don't need to put their boys on the battle field, they would just pitch the Igbos against the Yoruba, and the Ashanti against the Akan etc, when everything has ended, only our black daughters would be left for the takings. They need them, white population is dieing off, very soon, they will be no more but clones of them.
I am not advocating for a war or battle "with them"...if it has to come to that...you or any black man alive will collectively
make that decision to either defend your land and freedom...or just give up.
Like our fore-fathers gave up when they experienced the superior firepower against their juju-backed swords and arrows.
Besides NATO, USAFRICOM, the CIA and their cousins have been bringing the war to you...very successful since you got your
"independence". And they're still going to bring more.
Gay marriage, transgendering, GMO foods, abolition of national currencies, American military bases on
sovereign countries not at war, re-colonization is already at your door steps.
Its already happened, they cooked up excuses to invade Libya..all because Gadaffi was going to develop an African golden currency
and teach the African nations how to trade in their own currencies as opposed to the dollars and euros.
Your presidents just sat by and watched...they devasted Libya, trained Islamist goons and took over the leadership and economy
of a once prosperous Libya. You probably just shrugged and minded your own business.
The white population is not dieing off. Neither will clones of them only remain very soon.
As we speak, the technology to prolong physical life...which has mostly to do with genetics and endocrinology is in their hands.
They're planning for the next couple of hundred years, you can either plan ahead too or just sit down and do nothing.

gatiano:

Do you want to build infrastructures, that would be bad for their dominance, and market, they must by all means keep us dependent on their 2nd hand products and bad services that we pay twice and thrice more for. Haven't you learn, that when you build it, they sabotage it or sanction the hell out of your economy, and if it doesn't help which is in most cases, they invade; just like in Libya, they want to do the same in North-korea. how much less YOU/ME a Blackman. Theyonly thing is to award them contracts to build the bad services and 2nd hand stuffs for us.
You are blaming the white man all over again for you inability to run a successful government and economy.
Drop that mentality.

gatiano:

So what do you suggest in this instances? I say the usual way (every blackman for himself)-it leads to death.

The only Black Nation is The Nation Of Islam(i hope you don't abuse, i am not a member of them), yes, they are the only nation. Following behind them may or might be Zimbabwe. all other are a coagulations of tribes. tribes=darkness and lack of knowledge.
Louis Farrakhan don't bow to no white punks, It hurts the white people badly. They do take care of themselves, they don't beg nobody, they are self-sufficient. They got loans at good interest rates and have paid back or paying back accordingly. All the other Black nation is owing imf or /and world bank. some leaders are unjustly jailed.
The Nation of Islam exists at the mercy and behest of the Secret Service of the United States.
Without the permission and approval of the white rulers of America...even the mere notion of "black nationalism" would be dealt
with ruthlessly. America was not built for the black man, hispanics or "others".
Its a nation conquered,planned, developed and ruled by the Europeans. They have over 2000 years of experience in managing
empires, nation states and governments to handle any incursions into their grip on power.
If you believe the comedy show called Nation of Islam, then you have my apologies.
These are folks who have no clue as to what Africa is, the different tribes and ethnic groups and the languages they speak.
Most of them even think all Africans are natively Muslim believers.
They have no clue as to the British hands behind the emergence of Wahabism, the toppling of the Ottoman empire,
the imposition of the Saud family on Saudi Arabia, the exile of the Sharif of Mecca to Cyprus after he had helped them topple Ottoman rule.
They are not knowledgeable about the history of Islam and the virtual eclipsing of the original Islamic teachings of the Arab world by the Saudi family and their state mullahs.
The relentless destruction of revered Islamic sites and antiquities, not to mention the high level re-engineering of Islam by the
handlers from British and French intelligence services.
They have no clue as to the centuries long brutal slavery of blacks by the Arabs and their Fulani allies.
If the NOI were preaching Ifa or Santeria, then I would have given them the benefit of doubt...as those would have been a bit
difficult for the white experts in cloning religious movements to manipulate.
Deal with it...the NOI is an intelligence subsidiary of the white establishment and the top echelon are either Prince hall masons or Shriners.
Malcom X found out and paid for exposing them with his life.
I'm assuming you even know what the last two sentences above means.

gatiano:

Get onto your own, love self, study self, study your enemies. It had worked for me perfectly, but it would completely when we Unite.
Like i said, Maybe you don't understand what peace means. It is also our weapon.

Ofcourse you must have peace and love within you for your life to even have a meaning.
I'm sure the slaves that were shipped from Africa also studied their enemies all through the Atlantic crossing, when they were chained and
displayed as merchandise at the auctions, when they were finally bought and moved to the plantations, when they were randomly bred with
the nearest female negro knowing they'd never claim the children as their own.
I'm sure they also wanted to unite with all the other slaves being worked to death in all the plantations across North and South America.
I'm sure they must have loved studying, loved themselves and studied their enemies everyday of their miserable lives...knowing one day
it will end in an unmarked and unmourned grave somewhere out in the wild.
Quit with the self-defeat bro! Wake up to the world!
What do you want?
That is the question you, me and every other black man needs to ruminate on...for a loooooong time.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by gatiano(m): 10:50pm On Jun 11, 2015
The universe was made in action, so action would definitely be taken, (I'm wrong there , actions had been taken already), We didn't loose atall in the first place, everything had already been planned out even before a light skin being saw light. All that we are fighting for now is simply that Blacks should not die with the dieing race. The white race is dead already(or best description is white-supremacy is dead), the only people keeping white supremacy around are the Black people by not wanting to go do for self.

I do not consider the Bible or Quran as a religious book, They are simply scripts that comes from the past and goes into the future, They are scripts from the original books from Africa. The white just got a hold of it and twisted it (we gave it to them).

Just because our Elders knew what would happen, doesn't mean they will rob us of the experiences and estasy. So they let things go its course.

Psalm 83:4

83:3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

83:4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

83:5 For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:

Study the bolded in the above verses, That was they the white people (non-blacks) decided to cut us off from being a nation. cutting us from a nation into several pieces of tribes... which eventually led to the darkness and suffering (there can never be any development within a tribe or tribes).

When did they do this? they (non-blacks) did that after they cosulted together in one consent, Thus they became a nation(a confederate).
They were goths, scots, normandy, serbs, slavics, welch, etc, in their tribe condition, they were in darkness, but when they came to become a confederate, a nation, light came into their midst, knowledge came together with their knowledge of good and evil.

When they came up to us in Africa and Middle east, they didn't come by the ways of wars but by the terms of peace. In the process creating confusion, they caused strains between the youth and the Elders, Man and wife, Brothers against brothers, and before long, every blackman wants to go his own way. forming smaller groups and so forth. By the time they were done with us, They captured some of us and transported us to several places on the earth. We never knew evil, we lacked the knowledge of evil, and it may surprise you that most blacks today still lack the concept of evil.
They divided us good, and gave us different label, but ofcourse they lack mathematical sense because, anywhere they go, they discovered it. How can anybody discover a place where people are already? it beats my imagination.
some of us they call africans
another they called pygmies
another bushmen
another melanisian
another they called austronesian
another aboringinal
another negro
another they called ati in all the areas of philippines
another they called dravidians
another african american etc

Each one label not knowing another exist until about the beginning of 1900s. Some Blacks today don't know that there are Black people indiginous to Israel, Malaysia, Nepal, Indonesia etc.
The white people feel very threatened when we called ourselves BLACK, because it sounds like unity. before you know it, they have coined a beautiful word to classify us.

That was the disunity of us, Now the unity.

Malachi 4:5-6
4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
The bold simply means uniting us together.
Before Elijah Muhammad was Noble Drew Ali, Marcus Garvey, and during and after He ascended/passed, many, Malachi York, Barashango, Malcome X, Phil Valentine, Umar Johnson, Fela Anikulapo, Chinua Achebe, Kaba Kamene, Kwame Toure, Chaka Diop, Micheal Jackson, Bob Marley etc The lists goes on. All what they have taught is nothing more than UNITY. With the teachings are to help us see clearly for we were blind, to hear properly, to raise both our consciousness and our unconsciousness. So that when this world finally ends, Black people would just walk right straight into the classroom in a new world on this earth PHYSICALLY.

What will this UNITY get us most wonder, That is a good question, and the answer is just PEACE.
But the question in most people mind actually is How and when are we going to be developed like the whiteman? The answer is it will never happen. Their world is a poo. Even the white people are saying so that their world is poo, anywhere in their world you go to, they are extremely disatisfied, coupled with the extreme climatic conditions. Why must we want to be like a people whose ship is sinking?

We only wanted to learn what evil feels like, we made the evil, we experienced, now we are done with it. We are just that a curious people. We invested 6 days into it (6000 years). If we don't unite, Ebola is just a pin amongst metals.

gtnofllwr:
Sir, what exactly is this unity that you speak of? Please be specific in political, social, economic, and spiritual terms. What is the roadmap to this unity? Do we have to take action or will it naturally come to pass? Thanks.
Re: Louis Farrakhan's Message To Black People With The Breakfast Club by gatiano(m): 10:54pm On Jun 11, 2015
NOI is not under any white control, Nigeria and most countries of Africa are the subsidiaries of the British and American corporation.

You have not even scratched the surface. Like i said, what most black people want is integration. and It won't happen. They are best to get into their own.
PabloAfricanus:

You are blaming the white man all over again for you inability to run a successful government and economy.
Stop blaming him for your inability to develop superior weapons and fighting ability to confront invaders on your territory.
Stop blaming him for your inability to think analyse threats, think strategically and come up with counter measures to moves
against your liberty, health and happiness.
You are blaming the invader for your unpreparedness to confront a stronger, more devious and more determined enemy.
As I have said in one of my replies, its a world of conquest and plunder.
If the whites lack a certain natural resource that is vital to their economy, they'd come for it by hook, crook or force of arms.
What are you gonna do if such natural resource is located in your village?
Even their sky daddy book should have told you how the "chosen ones" were led to take over the lands of the Philistines, Amalekites
and others...lands they said were "flowing with milk and honey".
If the natives and occupants of such lands were caught unawares...then that was the day their own jungle matured.
History does not issue apologies, so drop the victim mentality.


Lol...even your interpretation of my post shows you either do not understand me or you've resigned yourself to the tag they
gave you..."3rd world country".
The European countries of the world are not in Pluto or Jupiter...they are not peopled by aliens...they are peopled by
people with one head on their shoulders...ten fingers and ten toes...who eat and drink food grown on this earth.
They just happen to have different skin pigment from you.
There is nothing like "begging for integration and acceptance into the whiteman's house".
The world has moved ahead of Africa...you are not going to re-invent the wheel, the computer, telephones.
You can either stay behind of the global progress, stay ahead of the global progress or play catch up.
There is no middle ground.
Also, I think you are also forgetting what IS THE PROBLEM.
The problem you and I know...is bad home grown leadership, lack of infrastructure, ignorance, insecurity, poverty, mental slavery and the rest.
The causes of these ills range from self-inflicted,imported,acquired to "imposed by the colonialists".
Do not play the victims card of resigning yourself to defeat by claiming "uniqueness" or "specialness".
Africans need to build the ability to join the rest of the developed world in having vibrant economies, prosperous societies, strong militaries
and enlightened leaders.
Accomplishing the above has nothing to do with "they would respect us and accept us".
Its you taking charge of your own life.


I am not advocating for a war or battle "with them"...if it has to come to that...you or any black man alive will collectively
make that decision to either defend your land and freedom...or just give up.
Like our fore-fathers gave up when they experienced the superior firepower against their juju-backed swords and arrows.
Besides NATO, USAFRICOM, the CIA and their cousins have been bringing the war to you...very successful since you got your
"independence". And they're still going to bring more.
Gay marriage, transgendering, GMO foods, abolition of national currencies, American military bases on
sovereign countries not at war, re-colonization is already at your door steps.
Its already happened, they cooked up excuses to invade Libya..all because Gadaffi was going to develop an African golden currency
and teach the African nations how to trade in their own currencies as opposed to the dollars and euros.
Your presidents just sat by and watched...they devasted Libya, trained Islamist goons and took over the leadership and economy
of a once prosperous Libya. You probably just shrugged and minded your own business.
The white population is not dieing off. Neither will clones of them only remain very soon.
As we speak, the technology to prolong physical life...which has mostly to do with genetics and endocrinology is in their hands.
They're planning for the next couple of hundred years, you can either plan ahead too or just sit down and do nothing.


You are blaming the white man all over again for you inability to run a successful government and economy.
Drop that mentality.


The Nation of Islam exists at the mercy and behest of the Secret Service of the United States.
Without the permission and approval of the white rulers of America...even the mere notion of "black nationalism" would be dealt
with ruthlessly. America was not built for the black man, hispanics or "others".
Its a nation conquered,planned, developed and ruled by the Europeans. They have over 2000 years of experience in managing
empires, nation states and governments to handle any incursions into their grip on power.
If you believe the comedy show called Nation of Islam, then you have my apologies.
These are folks who have no clue as to what Africa is, the different tribes and ethnic groups and the languages they speak.
Most of them even think all Africans are natively Muslim believers.
They have no clue as to the British hands behind the emergence of Wahabism, the toppling of the Ottoman empire,
the imposition of the Saud family on Saudi Arabia, the exile of the Sharif of Mecca to Cyprus after he had helped them topple Ottoman rule.
They are not knowledgeable about the history of Islam and the virtual eclipsing of the original Islamic teachings of the Arab world by the Saudi family and their state mullahs.
The relentless destruction of revered Islamic sites and antiquities, not to mention the high level re-engineering of Islam by the
handlers from British and French intelligence services.
They have no clue as to the centuries long brutal slavery of blacks by the Arabs and their Fulani allies.
If the NOI were preaching Ifa or Santeria, then I would have given them the benefit of doubt...as those would have been a bit
difficult for the white experts in cloning religious movements to manipulate.
Deal with it...the NOI is an intelligence subsidiary of the white establishment and the top echelon are either Prince hall masons or Shriners.
Malcom X found out and paid for exposing them with his life.
I'm assuming you even know what the last two sentences above means.



Ofcourse you must have peace and love within you for your life to even have a meaning.
I'm sure the slaves that were shipped from Africa also studied their enemies all through the Atlantic crossing, when they were chained and
displayed as merchandise at the auctions, when they were finally bought and moved to the plantations, when they were randomly bred with
the nearest female negro knowing they'd never claim the children as their own.
I'm sure they also wanted to unite with all the other slaves being worked to death in all the plantations across North and South America.
I'm sure they must have loved studying, loved themselves and studied their enemies everyday of their miserable lives...knowing one day
it will end in an unmarked and unmourned grave somewhere out in the wild.
Quit with the self-defeat bro! Wake up to the world!
What do you want?
That is the question you, me and every other black man needs to ruminate on...for a loooooong time.

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