I love this post...

I agree with this write up.

For those dancing shoki and skele wu in d aos of God. Dede merawo oooo

Coldfeet:
Alhamdulilah indeed that you don't have to swear to accept Christianity before you post on a Christian topic. Halleluia I have and give freedom to all to make and say what they like about me as a Christian.

I don't know what brought swearing here. You could easily have read my post and waka pass but you lack the freedom to do that. Shalom go in peace

LaRoyalHighness:
Having special gate for Pastors.(If you are not a Pastor, you are not allowed to use 'Pastors' gate')

Keeping plenty parking space for Pastors' cars.

Checking bags and cars for bomb etc before allowing you into the premises.

Having soldiers and other security agents parading in the church.

The last two became necessary due to threats of insecurity at places of worship especially due to Boko Haram attacks

11. TITHING: The BIGGEST fraud in Christendom.

twoondei:
One of my patients bought a 5litre gallon of holy water for 500k from those banner wearing people as treatment for pericarditis after refusing surgery..
He died just after he finished drinking the water.
Things are bad around here

dis na joke or tru?

twoondei:
One of my patients bought a 5litre gallon of holy water for 500k from those banner wearing people as treatment for pericarditis after refusing surgery..
He died just after he finished drinking the water.
Things are bad around here

dis na joke or tru?

I don't see nothing wrong with number 9. Excursions!

elantraceey:
You're right but I see nothing wrong with 9. The church is a family on it's own and such activities helps to strengthen the bond between members .

evrytin is wrng with no 9 if da activity turns to worldly events. Eg going to beaches 4 val, going to da movie, etc why nt visiting da sick, da motherles babies etc

As for the sporting aspect, I remember my dad advocating for an interchurch football competition in an open place when we were young and it was vehemently opposed. We eventually did it and its amazing how unbelievers turned up for the event each day. Some even Volunteered to play for some teams permanently and souls were won for Christ. Who would ever think soccer could do that? But it did.
Now unto tithing cards. This is a commandment from God and even a promise for prosperity. Some churches monitor the members through this and encourage them when they are falling short. The extent at which they go to ensure this what I can't say is right or not.
Excursions? Christ was on a boat and even while on excursions, you could win souls for Christ and u rejuvenate ur bosy/soul as u unwind with your family in Christ.

MissGdope:

It isn't unbiblical. It is stated in the bible that 10% of all your earnings belong to God ( tithes). What is unbiblical is forcing people to do it. God has given everyone a choice; to do or not to do, to be or not to be. The best thing is to tell people the benefits of giving to God and let them maake their choic instead of forcing them

I see you are a victim of twisted scripture, the bible never said 10% of earnings it said 10% of harvest produced in the land of israel and the instruction was directed to israelites only and not carried over to the christian church. And before you repeat the often told lie that there was no money in those days and their harvest was their income, kindly note that money had been in use as far back as the time of Abraham. If God wanted tithes of money it would have been stated clearly in the bible and you won't need to be twisting his word to mean money from earnings.

LaRoyalHighness:
Having special gate for Pastors.(If you are not a Pastor, you are not allowed to use 'Pastors' gate')

Keeping plenty parking space for Pastors' cars.

Checking bags and cars for bomb etc before allowing you into the premises.

Having soldiers and other security agents parading in the church.

Lol for my church Pastors' wives get special seat sef and some rich folks that always donate money.

Calling them "daddy, mummy, my lord etc.

I must say I agree with some of your points but I disagree with some, have seen brethren fighting over Bible quiz competition, if anyone will indulge in sequel immorality on excursions, such person will do say during night vigil and evangelism outreach, it is not about the events, it is about the life they chose to live. I noticed something in my fellowship while on campus, anytime we have anything to do that involves cooking and eating, we tend to get close and free with each other. The jokes, laughter and fun we had somehow strengthen the bond of unity. Somethings are not bad on there own, but check d lives of people involved. We are indeed spiritual person, but we still have a soul and lives in a body, hence d need for entertainment and relaxation and I think it is better to get these from the church than from the outside.

Although I agree with some of your points, I disagree with others. But generally I don't consider that here is the best place for such discussions. Most people here will interpret this to fulfil thier innate desires not to go to church in the first place. The Holy Spirit cannot inspire you to address this here. Jesus been led by the Spirit didn't attempt to solve some problems with the world of his time because the church was not ripe for it. Let us serve milk to the babes and meat to the matured.

For real oo!

akwunmi:
dis na joke or tru? ;Ddis na joke or tru?

Rendezvou:
I love going on excursions too, I love adventures and sightseeing. But you can get this outside the church. It is not a spiritual activity and it has lured some youths to sexual immoralities and other unholy acts in many instances. I do not see why churches would prefer excursions to evangelism. I know a church that has organized several excursions some of which I have attended but yet to mobilize its youth for evangelism of any sort. The issue is that social events has prevailed over spiritual activities in many churches.

It is important to be mindful of activities that would feed only our bodies and not our souls in churches.We should have a life outside the church for moderate social and extra religious activities.

Jesus when told his disciples let cross over to other side of Galilee,na sightseeing be that oo

Reverse and park well.

focus7:
for your third and fifth points you sound as a boko agent, I am suspecting you o.

i disagree with 7 & 9 i disagree with 7 & 9

Firstly, @op christianity is not a religion, it is our relationship with God. Therefore, it is wrong to have protocols. Each of
us should be able to commune wit our maker in our own way, much better than we do wit our parents.

Secondly, we christians are one family. We are all brothers and sisters. And we should be able to have fun together if we truely love each other. Because genuine love for one another pleases our father.


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elantraceey:
You're right but I see nothing wrong with 9. The church is a family on it's own and such activities helps to strengthen the bond between members .

Big lie.. it's the love of Christ n the right word of God from a honest and sincere pastor that will bring love between members. Activities don't strengthen no bonds. Satan is wise, be not ignorant.

karkel:
Jesus when told his disciples let cross over to other side of Galilee,na sightseeing be that oo

Go n read the full chapter. What sayest the scripture? How readeth thou?

elantraceey:
You're right but I see nothing wrong with 9. The church is a family on it's own and such activities helps to strengthen the bond between members .

The Bible was clear about how to strengthen bond. It mentioned Exhortation. And this has to do with things that are purely scriptural, not picnics, etc etc.

How many of you Christians even exhort thyselves daily. You all prefer to throw parties in the name of strengthening bond when there are needy and sick brethren around who need exhortation?

Gombs:





lies.



You'd not understand reasons some churches do what they do.



Tithe should be encouraged, not forced. Churches keeping records of your Tithe are only helping you. It's wrong however to deny brethren privileges because they do not Tithe.



You have no right to tell a church what societies should be or shouldn't. Why not pray about it?



Why not let God complain about it? Or has He spoken to you? To the pure, all things are pure... It's in your Bible.



You're really getting yourself worked up over nothing. Those called out that met the specific amount did not complain, those who didn't meet the amount didn't complain.. Why you? You don't even know what God and the pastor has spoken about before that event.



This too?
So, sporting events should be decimated because two teams had a hard time playing fair? So far it does not go against the Bible, all events including arts ( are welcomed in the church... Even boxing and wrestling games.

1 Timothy 4v8 Msg
Workouts in the gymnasium are useful, but a disciplined life in God is far more so, making you fit both today and forever.



You just exaggerated. If you'd said the church is using a public building (which is not theirs), I can understand. After services, other folks tend to use these venues.



What is wrong in organising excursions and sightseeing? Can you show me where in the Bible that is wrong?



So far they do not sing secular music in church, I do not see anything wrong in that. The church should be open to all, even the worse sinners.

The sad part of this your number ten is that a serial fornicator will be the first to want to crucify the church for inviting say Timaya who sang a wonderful worship song.

I think I know your denomination already.......... C E

I agree with you on most of them, but 7. Organizing sport/game Competitions- I think this is a good way to build relationships within church members. A good way to socialise with fellow brethren. I've seen this tool used to win souls countless times. Apostle Paul said, "bodily exercise profiteth little" 1 Tim 4:8....So let them get the little.

Jagoon:
Collecting of monetary tithes is also unbiblical.

Which world are u living in bro?

any one wey you no like skip am

you are very riight bt i strongly disagree with excursion....excursion done in a moderate manner is part of learning and am sure the bible is not against that

Orunto:
The churches can do all of those things you are criticising. They can charge for conselling and use the money to improve the household of God. The Bible says, "In all labour is a reward, the talk of the lips tenneth unto penury". King Solomon told us of music being the food of life. God loves music. The Angels sing day and night @ the The Temple of Grace. So when humans sing anywhere anyhow on earth, they please God. God loves Hollywood, Nollywood, Pub-songs etc.

Who raised u?

Gombs:





lies.



You'd not understand reasons some churches do what they do.



Tithe should be encouraged, not forced. Churches keeping records of your Tithe are only helping you. It's wrong however to deny brethren privileges because they do not Tithe.



You have no right to tell a church what societies should be or shouldn't. Why not pray about it?



Why not let God complain about it? Or has He spoken to you? To the pure, all things are pure... It's in your Bible.



You're really getting yourself worked up over nothing. Those called out that met the specific amount did not complain, those who didn't meet the amount didn't complain.. Why you? You don't even know what God and the pastor has spoken about before that event.



This too?
So, sporting events should be decimated because two teams had a hard time playing fair? So far it does not go against the Bible, all events including arts ( are welcomed in the church... Even boxing and wrestling games.

1 Timothy 4v8 Msg
Workouts in the gymnasium are useful, but a disciplined life in God is far more so, making you fit both today and forever.



You just exaggerated. If you'd said the church is using a public building (which is not theirs), I can understand. After services, other folks tend to use these venues.



What is wrong in organising excursions and sightseeing? Can you show me where in the Bible that is wrong?



So far they do not sing secular music in church, I do not see anything wrong in that. The church should be open to all, even the worse sinners.

The sad part of this your number ten is that a serial fornicator will be the first to want to crucify the church for inviting say Timaya who sang a wonderful worship song.

its like u don't reside on planet earth hence your post that its a lie that pastors charge consultation fees. Selling water and oil with some bogus promise of miracles is fraudulent. Jesus healed a blind man by mixing saliva and sand. If jesus was a pastor in 2days world, his saliva and d land from which he took d sand will b a money spinning merchandise. How is a church helping its members by keeping records of tithes? "2d pure all things are pure"...were did u get that? That means if I c stealing and murder as pure then its pure. As regards giving read 2 corinthians 9:7. Am sure u will like lil wayne and nicki minaj come 2 your church 2 lead choruses and worship. It will b a great xperience. Bros what's wrong is wrong

karkel:
Jesus when told his disciples let cross over to other side of Galilee,na sightseeing be that oo

were they going 2d other side 4 sight seeing or 4 evangelism?