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Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Ok lets see where his patriotism will lead. You may bury your head in the sand like an ostrich but ask yourself this. The action he took will it draw the S.E and S.S closer to him and the S.W? forget this dream you have about tinubu being a patriot it is a barefaced lie. He has only one agenda and that is his own for himself it is not for anyone else. I am sure as a patriot when he is being buried and thrown into irrelevance by his darling north the whole south will rise and fight with him. NOT! that is what it is about. Will the whole south rise and stand behind him like the whole north rose and stood behind buhari if need be? datribune: 1 Like |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by NathanielJande: 3:34pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
This is no doubt a very educative piece. How I wish everybody would read this piece. In my opinion, the so called Fulani oligarchy will continue to succeed particularly in this fresh onslaught, only if the Yoruba politicians/elite continue to be divided, selfish and envious of one another. Just imagine the kind of envy against Tinubu. |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Shymm3x: 3:38pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Malawian: Never called them smart - but you can't deny the fact that they're the political overlords of Nigeria. Blame the subservient Hausas, the reach of the Hausa language, and colonial legacy that left a disproportionate structure that favours them - or whatever you want to blame - but they run and own Nigeria. However, West Africa (including Cameroun) is a different kettle of fish entirely - folks outsmart them in those places. Fulanis run Nigeria! |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by NewsHub: 3:42pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
A7: This is the most sensible comment i have read here. One lousy writer just wrote nonsense because of his hatred for Tinubu and people are aligning with it. Wait! Just as you noted, why is the writer running away from the fact that there were Fulani senators among the 51 APC senators that were absent. Also he has failed to tell us whether Dogara is fulani or not. Another point he failed to note is the fact majority of the PDP senators that suppported Saraki are from the SE and SS. Or are Igbos and co now Fulani Is David Mark also Fulani Dino Melaye is one of the brains behind the Saraki project...is he also Fulani This writer should just go and sleep! His article is just too flat and does not hold water. 3 Likes |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Malawian(m): 3:43pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Volksfuhrer:but when the war started, the unprepared yorubas were suddenly prepared to shoot and anything that moved and what not. how can you be claiming the yorubas were unprepared for war? the same yoruba who claims to have fought many wars and build empires? nigga plzzzzz. 3 Likes |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Truckpusher(m): 6:42pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Shymm3x:Lamentation of a pained Yoruba boy. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Shymm3x: 6:44pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Truckpusher: Lmao says a flaming phag who was almost in tears when GEJ lost threatening fire and brimstone everywhere. 2 Likes |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Truckpusher(m): 6:50pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Shymm3x:Amuse ya self all you want but all you've got is a an ordinary commissioner in this present administration despite all your treachery ,double faced politics and back biting . Even with all you contributed in ensuring that ya master up North gets power back your lord Tinubu was treated like a scumbag . 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Shymm3x: 6:54pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Truckpusher: Like I give two fvcks about Tinubu apart from discussing politics. Keep daydreaming and crying over spilled milk cos the fedora hat wearing gorilla got done in, while I stay smashing peng Igbo chics. I'll hand them over to you when I'm done. |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by datribune: 8:03pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
thotsofnaij: [b]d Jagaban has nothing to prove to u or to anyone dat he is indeed a patriot. Bola Tinubu was a frontline member of NADECO & played a prominent role in d struggle 4 democracy in Nigeria. Even in dis dispensation he has contributed greatly to d deepening of our democracy & d breaking up of d evil strangle-hold on d nation by d PDP which swore to cling to power 4 d next 60yrs whether they perform or not. While bigots who can not rise above tribe & tongues continue to pour oppprobium on him, d patriotic majority of nigerians remain grateful to him & continue to support him 4 raising d standard against a clueless, confused & overwhelmed PDP govt. Not minding d happenings in d national assembly, going forward, d Jagaban can only grow frm strength to strength as he has been doing since 1999. Afterall Buhari suffered worse & was even declared unelectable by people who did not believe in him. We who believed in him hav today made him president. When d history of nigeria is written, d Asiwaju's name will surely be written in gold. [/b] 1 Like |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Nobody: 8:37pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Ok. datribune: 1 Like |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by PabloAfricanus(m): 9:45pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Well...thats an interesting perspective, but certain facts still stand out. 1) The Egbe Omo Oduduwa was a calculated attempt to create a Yoruba political party, run by Yorubas and for Yorubas. Initially the NCNC Yoruba stalwarts saw it for what it was and were reluctant to join. Before the Adeyemos and co launched the Egbe in Lagos, the leading party for both Yorubas and Igbos was the Herbert Macaulay-led NCNC, even after Zik took over. You also cannot compare the Egbe to the Ibibio State Union or the Ibo State Union of which Zik was president. Those were largely community/town development unions with limited political affiliations. Sure they could be called upon to assist in political campaigns, but they were not a partisan political vehicle. The Egbe on the other hand, was formed in London by some of the top Yoruba intellectuals, made legitimate and official in an elaborate 3 day ceremony at Ife, headquartered in Ibadan, and drew the line between the Zik-led NCNC and "Yoruba" politics. It was a vehicle to whittle down Zik's influence and control Yoruba politics for Yorubas. Zik understood the game and lashed out as expected against the Egbe. I dont think Zikist statements no matter how provocative alienated the Yoruba core of NCNC. Awo saw the bigger game of independence coming up and read the handwriting on the wall. He never believed in those Zikist nationalist fantasies, cos he rightly understood the resource extraction game the British and the Fulanis were playing. It was a colonial racket and the Fulanis were the house masters. You were right, Awo's politics was Yoruba isolationism through and through and he was direct and unapologetic about it. 2) On the allegations of corruption against Zik, there was no reason why Zik should not have emerged the executive of Nigeria's first indigenous government. The only reason would be his threat to more powerful interests. Zik was a threat to the British interests, cos being an Igbo man, he had little or no respect for systems that are not driven by equal merit. A man achieved greatness on his own, not just because of his fathers lineage or some glorified royalty. The British knew Zik would not deal easy. The railway lines built for the exclusive purpose of extracting mineral resources to Europe, the Shell oil installations, the forced trade concessions, all were certain to be reviewed by Zik if given executive powers. The Hausa/Fulanis on the other hand understood the game of serfhood perfectly...it was their native system of government after all. Even the Yorubas, Edos, Nupes and other groups with established social hierarchies understood the concept of tribute and taxes. It was foreign and repugnant to the Igbos and most Easterners. All the regional premiers Awo included could have been nailed for corruption, cos they largely exercised cult status control of public finances. Infact Awo's was the model Tinubu adopted...Zik was not even that brazen. You control the central purse and the incoming revenue streams through various fronts. The Coker commission against Awo in 1962 used the same strategy the British had used to neutralize Zik in 1956. They both fell for the British mandated legal loop holes in the Regional Market Boards setup and party financing schemes. If you did not know that Okotie-Eboh was a British plant and his unlimited funds was channeled by the British, then you may have to read up on that aspect of the take over of NCNC by the British via Okotie-Eboh. The British were clear that Zik would not pay homage and tribute, would not sign the secret trade deals and concessions that would give London economic mastery over her old colony.Thus, he had to be eliminated from the executive chair. If the election was rigged in the SE, it had to be in Okotie-Eboh's favour, not certainly Zik. He was a cult hero not just to the Igbos but to most of the SE. 3) The January 1966 sad event was a likely response by informed officers who staked it all to end the British chicanery with the Northerners and their stooges. They knew that the British had deliberately screwed both Zik and Awo, were responsible for the intelligence that saw Awo in jail, were responsible for the neutralization of Zik thereby robbing him of his rightful place at national politics. They saw the hand of the British in the citing of the army installations, future Northern military dominance of the infantry and army high command, the whole lopsided parliamentary setup where an arid north was allocated higher census figures than a rain forest south. It probably was an attempt to correct the handover of Nigeria to the Fulani oligarchs and their British plants. 4) On the secession thingy, all that was needed was the appropriate funding and availability of arms. Yorubas had tough fighting men who were ready to go all the way. You seem to silently ignore that fact, like all the men in the SW were either dead or not available. When the British made arms and funds available to Gowon, you know the rest...Yoruba soldiers like Obasanjo,Ariyo, Adekunle, Alabi Isama, Akinrindade and co did most of the strategic dirty work. Simply put, the Yorubas chickened out of the game to correct the injustices the British had been meting out to them with the help of the Northerners. Ogundipe was not even man enough to stand his ground and rally round what ever support he could gather from the Yoruba officers around. This was the opportunity Awo had been dreaming of, to cut off the artificial statehood and allow the Yorubas do their own thing their own way. A possible strategic option would have been to set aside the murders of Ademulegun, Shodeinde and the rest...and maybe give the Igbos support to go up north through Benue or Lokoja to stop the advance of the Northerners, while they drove them out and took over Lagos. If they had pooled their strengths, they could have jointly beaten the Brits at their own game...and secured independent statehood for themselves. The slight of the murders of Yoruba officers in Jan 1966 could be addressed later. My opinions... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by ArodeTsolaye: 10:04pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
Shymm3x: This guy can't get his d1cck erect for 2mins but he makes the loudest noise about smashing poozies. blehehehehe!. Go back to ya burger flipping buddy before you kill your self wanking off to imaginary poozies. blehehehe! |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by tomakint: 10:27pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
atlwireles:Spot on bro, spot on......this is what I have been beating hard into the thick skulls of many 'blind Bartimaeuses' here especially from the Yoruba divides all these years but they would never listen 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Volksfuhrer(m): 10:33pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh: My earlier post was an explanation of what transpired between the two, not a quote. Besides, both Awo and Ojukwu had no pretensions about what secession meant. The meeting that was secretly recorded was the earlier one that included Awo' delegation. After that meeting, Ojukwu went back to meet Awo in his Hotel room. But Awo insisted on having two people with him, which Ojukwu didn't object to. Ojukwu went to inform Awo that his people had finally decided to secede. On hearing that, Awo asked Ojukwu to give him two weeks notice before announcing secession, amd Ojukwu promised him he would. Both men did discuss about secession if Hilary Njokwu's account is anything to go by. (Hilary Njoku: "A Tragedy Without Heroes: p141) For a more expansive account, you may read Wole Soyinka: You Must Set Forth At Dawn, pages 131- |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by noah91(m): 10:57pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
InyinyaAgbaOku:And u think d North see Saraki as a fulani? Saraki might nt hv proclaimed his yorubaness because of his political ambition n because he is from a geopolitical zone that has fulani majority. Genetically n in terms of association, saraki is much more a yoruba than a fulani. |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by noah91(m): 11:04pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
[quote author=fx45 post=34808082] This kid doesn't seem to understand what exactly is happening..... The powerplay going on now is way deeper than the gibberish you just typed. Osinbajo, a Yoruba man is the Vice President.... Where exactly do you think he belongs in the overall scheme of things in Nigeria today? Nowhere! He's just like a robot.... Hey mr matured, half bread is better than none. We hv d no 2 position, what position does ur tribe have. Cry 4 ur people first b4 u sympathize with us |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by pazienza(m): 11:40pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
is more viable. I had long said, the Yorubas decision to vote against a SS/ SE candidate in the just concluded election has made the emergence of a future president from the south, via voting process, impossible. They have made the North eternal presidents, the battle is now between the SW and SS/SE on who produces the VP. Any party that presents a southern president in the future will lose, because the rest of the south will align with the North to scuttle that southern president in exchange for a VP position from the North. Forget Igbo presidency, it's not going to happen, that's why those who can see are now seeing that outright secession is the only way we can achieve Igbo presidency. And having a unified political direction away from the APC controlled centre will help us achieve that. When it comes to Ndiigbo, Nigerians don't apply logic, you are too blind to this fact. In 1999, Ekwueme was a better consensus builder than Okorocha, had more non Igbo friends in high places, was more qualified than OBJ, it had been long we had an Igbo president then, yet twice he was humiliated by his PDP friends in the primaries, simply because he was Igbo. After OBJ had been the Nigerian president just recently, Ndiigbo had not been for decades, yet APC picked a Yoruba man ahead of Okorocha and Amaechi as the VP. If they couldn't give Okorocha the VP slot, it is quite naive of you to think they have plans of making him the president in the future, his crime is simple, he isn't Arewa-Odua, same crime GEJ was guilty of. https://www.nairaland.com/2241449/questions-okorocha-ngige-onu-buhari/2#32480956 |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by pazienza(m): 11:42pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
"APC cannot win with a Yoruba president,
the Yorubas are minorities in the south,
and the North will always vote for a
Northern president only. The moment APC
presents a Yoruba president, and the PDP
presents a Northern president with SS/SE
VP, APC will lose, as only Yorubas will
vote for them.
Your act in this 2015 election means
there can never be a SW president in the
future". |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by EMANY01(m): 11:42pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
TayoT: dBard: meccuno: Malawian: DanielPop: Interesting points to note. |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by pazienza(m): 11:49pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
"Buhari won't need Tinubu help come 2019. SW is a minority, all Buhari need to do is woo the SE/SS, by providing more infrastructure for the zone, replacing Osibanjo with a SS/SE man, and Tinubu becomes history, as SW votes would amount to nothing. I am sure the SS/SE will be more than happy to spite Tinubu and SW. And I am sure Buhari is well aware of this. So, if I were Tinubu, I would keep my kleptomaniac side in check at the FG level and just concentrate on milking Lagos and SW as usual, I am sure the General won't mind" https://www.nairaland.com/2237874/first-thing-first-buhari-must/1#32366699 1 Like |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by pazienza(m): 11:56pm On Jun 16, 2015 |
11:46pm On Apr 02 Obiagelli : Tinubu has got to be the most influential politician ever in the history of Nigeria. I doff my hat. "How? For agreeing to play a subordinate to the North? Nawao! Never knew one can become influential simply by being subordinate to a master. If he had built the AC to APC, and got the North to play subordinate to aYoruba president, I would be applauding too. But what he did was provide a vehicle for a Northern dominance, and carefully positioned the Yorubas as the most favourite to eat from the crumbs that would fall off the Northern table, over the SS/ SE, this wasn't different from what Awo achieved in 1970. But it comes with a price, like Awo actions led to the divide between the SE and SW, Tinubu's actions will put a divide between the SS and SW. The SW have officially ceased being part of the political southern Nigeria, even though they never were part of Southern Nigeria, to begin with". https://www.nairaland.com/2229262/jagaban/4#32289471 |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Shymm3x: 12:13am On Jun 17, 2015 |
PabloAfricanus: I agree with almost everything you posited apart from the excerpts about Zik of Onitsha. Zik of Onitsha was a corrupt opportunist and he was no threat to anyone. All the posturing was for Igbo domination and to enrich himself as he did with NCNC's money with Okotie-Eboh. The Brits described him as utterly corrupt and those British OxBridge graduates who were sent to Nigeria back then called him utterly corrupt during the interview on BBC 4. Zik of Onitsha played his card when he was ceremonial president by making sure that all the positions allocated to the South under that government went to Igbos. And when he lost out in the power struggle to Akintola - that was the reason why he colluded with Ifeajuna to plot the 1966 coup. The coup wasn't an Nzeogwu coup - that was a Zik and Ifeajuna coup. 1 Like |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by pazienza(m): 12:24am On Jun 17, 2015 |
When they were gloating over Buhari's victory, I told them things they were too blind to see, things their Igbophobia and hatred of anybody( GEJ) associated with oiNdiigbo won't let them see! Now, there is no going back. The SW can never be trusted by the SS or SE ever again, they have burnt the bridges, any body that seeks to form an alliance with Yorubas must be foolish. There can never be unity between SE and SW ever , past and recent history demands so, and what this means is that the North is set to rule over democratic Nigeria for eternity. They will use both PDP and APC to achieve this. The North can't just believe their luck. Tinubu was indeed a great political strategist in his dreams, lol! Biafra is the only solution to this conundrum for an Igboman. |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by pazienza(m): 12:34am On Jun 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Ever since it was made a public knowledge to Yorubas that Nzeogwu was actually from the current SS and since they parrot about that Igboland started and ended in SE, hence Nzeogwu coup going by this their logic couldnt have been an Igbo coup, I have noticed this new tendency of Yorubas to shift the coup to Ifeajuna, obviously because Ifeajuna was from the present SE, and hence his "Igboness" was not in doubt. One can't help but notice this desperate effort by Yorubas to make sure that by fire and by force, the 1966 coup be seen as an Igbo coup, plotted to further Igbo political interest, even when this view lacks no substance, but as usual, they( Yorubas) believe that by repeating it often and on, it would take the place of the truth. It's a bit intriguing. 4 Likes |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by PabloAfricanus(m): 1:06am On Jun 17, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Doesn't it sound funny listening to the Brits tag a politician as "utterly corrupt" and label him as "bad" cos he "enriched himself using public finances"? Like seriously? A lion judging hyenas for hunting antelopes in the same jungle? That's utterly ridiculous. All politicians are corrupt and opportunists...its the currency of the game. You are literally forced to double speak and compromise. The silly BBC idiat interviews did not bring a new revelation...its just the same old self serving posturing of the British. These devious thieves wrote the bible on corruption and bribery. They ruled the waves through every form of chicanery, theft, piracy, posturing, falsification and badness known to man. The fact was that Zik was setup. As Awo was. There was little or no legal avenue to finance the NCNC political machine than through the routes those two took. They just didn't see through the legal loop holes in the laws guiding the running of those regional offices. The Brits had knowingly put them there knowing their self conceit and their self flattery won't allow them think strategically. Those tricks would not have worked with the Northern emirates cos a legal Islamic system of taxation was already in place before the Brits forced their way in. They'd have seen through the whole "legal", "constitutional" and "court/judiciary" nonsense game...which was a Brit ploy to replace their native laws and authorities with Britished-coined legal nonsense. Zik was totally gamed and he even facilitated it by his self conceit and lack of exposure to proper state politics. I don't know if the 1996 coup was sponsored by Zik or not. Arguments could be made that Awo was already trying to achieve what the young turks of 1966 did before he was caught and jailed. And he even reportedly tried it again during IBB's era and as they said chose the easy way out. The new nation was looking to implode sooner than later...the British had carefully crafted a Northern hegemony. The sardauna was to use the office of the prime minister in whittling down the Igbo presence in the officer corps, foreign and civil service. The Yorubas had already been sold out by Akintola,Ademulegun and crew. The sardauna was getting ready for a showdown with the Igbos...as the West had already experienced their own wetie...with Balewa ordering the military to the streets of Ibadan. And ofcourse the govt in Lagos was run by the North. Zik and Ironsi were largely ceremonial figure heads. Zik found out to his chagrin what "executive" powers really mean. Awo knew the game but was too selfish and cunning to compromise with Zik. I think its more probable that Awo had a hand in the 1966 coup than Zik...the hits could only favor an Awo return. Zik being an Igbo stood nothing to gain...as the aggrieved North and West would not live to see him usurp their positions...after the cold blooded murder of their leaders. The January boys ultimately turned out to be revolutionaries who did not understand the game...and ended up confusing good intentions with doing the right thing at the right time. I think they were used...and between Zik and Awo...the later was the more likely culprit. I could be wrong though. 5 Likes |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 1:24am On Jun 17, 2015 |
noah91:Which association? 1 Like |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by chiedu7: 4:37am On Jun 17, 2015 |
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Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Nobody: 5:27am On Jun 17, 2015 |
OMG go and get a clue dude. Shymm3x: |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Volksfuhrer(m): 6:21am On Jun 17, 2015 |
Malawian: Your riposte is ludicrous. Every war is never the same: go ask Napoleon, he fought many wars. The unpreparedness Awo made reference to was that against the North. The North and the West fighting Biafra was a different proposition entirely! Awo warned Ojukwu there was no way he would win if the Eastern Region tried secession alone, that he shouldn't do anything rash. I would advise you to read Hilary Njokwu's war memoirs, A Tragedy without Heroes (page 141) Kindest regards. |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by Volksfuhrer(m): 6:32am On Jun 17, 2015 |
Dollyak: Wole Soyinka's memoirs, You Must Set Forth At Dawn (you may read from page 131) Hillary Njokwu's war memoirs, A Tragedy Without Heroes (page 141). |
Re: The Fulani Solidarity And Betrayal Of Bola Tinubu By Remi Oyeyemi by slyopez(m): 7:23am On Jun 17, 2015 |
The game just begun, hausa/fulani will frustrate mere commissioner "Osibande" to resign and pick SS/SE VP in other to finish Tinubu baje baje. |
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