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Re: [DELETE} by monica22: 2:39am On Sep 20, 2006
Toris Okotie (The African Poet) NY

My African Child
So young in heart
He cried for milk
So poor and helpless
Mama weeps in pain

His eyes so red
A week he cried
A month ago,
To the world he came

Mama so young
Papa has run
Under the bridge
They lay their heads

In storm and rain
They search for food
Through man and sex
Mama fed him well

The days went by
Mama health decreased
Only five months old
Mama said goodbye

In rain and cold
He cried so loud
In sun and heat
He wept and wept

Three days gone by
Since mama left
And now he sleeps
To meet with mama

**Whoever you are, your so called friend is crazy!!!!******
Re: [DELETE} by mamaput(f): 6:55am On Sep 21, 2006
Are most of the things she said not true? forget the fact that she thinks her people are better than your people.

I do not know why you keep up that friendship.
Is it begging for friendship.
I do not have them as friends and i do not go near them.
I have learned Early that they are no good to have as friends.
They are like Gypsies they only like themselves
Re: [DELETE} by SEFAGO(m): 7:00am On Sep 21, 2006
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Re: [DELETE} by iice(f): 12:29pm On Sep 21, 2006
Funny, like malaika said, i find them beautiful and i have had certain hints that they consider themselves better than us. We know ourselves, we know what we are capable of. Even if they don't see it, others see it. I have experiences with some Sudanese, and they all consider themselves Arabs and not Africans i laugh tire, my girlfriends and i very well set them straight and we cool with them because where i live, we Nigerians stand out compared to other Africans. So when we go out as a group, they always flock to our side tongue
Re: [DELETE} by Seun(mod): 5:10pm On Sep 21, 2006
Did you know that women consider themselves better than us? Yes, I can prove it. I have a friend who is a woman, and I asked her "are you better than me" and she said "yes". Clearly, all women are man-hating bigots!!
Re: [DELETE} by Nobody: 5:58pm On Sep 21, 2006
Nice one Seun but you missed the point. Somalis/Ethiopians actually think this way.
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Re: [DELETE} by Damsal(f): 7:23pm On Sep 21, 2006
This is so not true, my close friends are Eritreans i know they consider themselves to be from the horn of Africa, and do consider themselves to be beautiful but they under no condition consider themselves to be superior. I might just be saying from the view of my friends but i personally to not see them to be arrogant about their ethnicity.
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Re: [DELETE} by Madira: 9:45am On Sep 22, 2006
I have heard lots of stuff about these guys from the Horn of Africa. It is true that Somali's consider themselves Arabs. I guess they consider themselves beautiful (I do too). However, I must say that all the ones I have interacted with are very lovely people - Somali's, Eritreans and Ethiopians. Ethiopians are particularly proud of their ancient culture as well the fact that they were never colonised as the rest of the continent was.
That having been said I recall an incident in which a Somali guy once said something about a girl's 'nappy hair'. I called him up on that at once, I told him that he may think he had nice hair, nothing wrong with that at all, but that didn't mean the girl in question did not like her own hair either. He kept away from me for a few days after that.
However those Sudanese who consider themselves Arabs need to tell their peeps to stop hassling the Southerners (this has actually been going on for centuries) cos we are all brothers and some of them are muslims like themselves(not that that has ever stopped them from dealing with them though).
Re: [DELETE} by Brownsuga(f): 3:05pm On Sep 22, 2006
Hi all,

I am from the area too. It is true that these Horn pples think highly of themselves and lowly of others- esp of west and southern Africans.

When i was much younger (i grew up in southern Africa) i used to hear them speak lowly of the Zambians.
In fact they called them 'Africans' "blacks" or even 'dagax' (x=pronounced as h in Djibouti/Somali) it means "stone", meaning that these pple could be insulted and beaten but they wont feel anything.

I remember fighting with these pple, esp Djiboutians who think they are in Africa by accident and are related to the French (was a colony of F).

Many Somalis and Djiboutians consider themselves of arab descent,
The Ethiopians have a superiority complex, having blood of a higher warrior-like ancestoral beings, never being colonized, etc

BUT please!! not all pples of the Horn think this way, i certainly dont and many others too.
Re: [DELETE} by toshmann(m): 6:15pm On Sep 22, 2006
can someone educate me? the only thing i know about ethiopia is hunger, poverty, war, famine, refugees, UN aid agencies. and recently ethiopian airlines (which i heard travels through about five countries b4 getting to UK from ethiopia.)

i'm shocked to hear people i "pity" feel superior.
i once heard of a somali girl in cardiff who claims to be superior since they were not colonised and were not enslaved during the slave era.
i laughed in a naija way. in cardiff, they are the least of the immigrants, they live in the poorest nieghbourhoods and when u talk of people in the slums everyone here knows who it is being refered to.

people are funny, we africans are suffering and yet we have this attitude. what happens when one of these african countries makes it to greatness:i guess they'll forget the rest of the african brotherhood.
waoh.
Re: [DELETE} by Brownsuga(f): 6:31pm On Sep 22, 2006
toshmann:
i once heard of a somali girl in cardiff who claims to be superior since they were not colonised and were not enslaved during the slave era.
Could your friend have been an Ethiopian and not a Somali as you suggest? huh
I say this because it is actually the Ethios that feel like that and Somalia was colonized Italy (south somalia) france (djibouti) and Britian (Soamlailand),
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Re: [DELETE} by chinani(f): 10:20pm On Sep 24, 2006
Hmmm, this topic is crazy to me. Not b/c it lacks merity but b/c my experience has been totally different. I never thought or heard that Habishas feel better than Naijas. Down South they stay down w/ some Nigerians! Habisha guys at school were always trying to date a Naija gurl, they said, they were the fliest ('cause we got booties). grin I've had some convos w/ older Habishas and they all say "Do something great for Africa" it's never an issue.

As for their looks. Hmmm. I'm no hater. Hausas say "The beautiful ones are yet to be born" so while I do know beautiful Habishas I ain't trippin' & I don't think the most beautiful woman and/or black woman and/or African woman is or is not Habisha.

Also THEY ARE NOT ALL LIGHT!

Their "elevated status" comes from A.A. popular view that light skin, longer hair = beauty. You can accept it or not.

Again I'm in TX and while I've been to the East coast/mid-Atlantic my opinoins are shaped by TX. So if this is true of your area, I beg your pardon but please don't think that all of 'em are like this! They're not! I can vouch for 'em.
Re: [DELETE} by Chxta(m): 6:20pm On Sep 28, 2006
I've always known.
Re: [DELETE} by mrmayor(m): 11:45pm On Sep 28, 2006
All,

Afeni was right when he said"No Unity Based On Race"I have met many people from the East Africa,especially Ethiopians and Somalians and the fact is they don't consider themselves to be black and Africans,they are unfortunate to be on the African continent.For people who have friends from these two countries my guess is they are only tolerating you,yes you can be at their parties and clubs but when you are not looking their disgust shows.

A "friend" use to call me everytime there was a bad news a Nigeria on tv just to remind me that am Nigerian,I returned the favour whenever Ethiopia is on tv with images of starving,war torn,aids infected people,no need to say we are friends no more.
I also called him to tell how our very own Obasanjo was working hard to get complete debt relieve from western countries,which his country benefited from

@Brownsuga,

I was surprised when you declared you dated a Nigerian,its a bit unusual to see an/a Ethiopian/Eritrean dating a Nigerian,I bet its wrong to paint everyone with the same brush
Re: [DELETE} by Brownsuga(f): 10:46pm On Oct 01, 2006
Well mrmajor, i guess you learned something important, not all can be painted with da same brush, grin
I am neither Ethiopian nor Eritrean, but i am not far from there, lool i think if i told you you'd be even more surprised shocked. I guess i am the exception of the (cultural) rule. Yes i dated a Nigerian man not because he was or wasnt Nigerian, but because i fell in love with him, madly in love, I think love knows no race etc,

Many females from the Horn, esp those in diaspora, prefer dating men who arent from the there too for many different reasons.

But please you all, not all pples from the Horn look down on other Africans,
Re: [DELETE} by shango(m): 3:35am On Oct 02, 2006
All the Northern African Arab and Berber countries where colonized yet they consider themselves superior to Blacks and Ethopians. If the Portuguese or British or France had any interest in Ethiopoia they would have taken the country over very easily, the Italians where not formidable colonizers, hence their country being spared. In any case this is nothing new, a country in worse shape than Nigeria has people that need to feel superior in some way so look down on us, its part of the Eurocentric view on racial, ethnic, and cultural superiority and its pervasion in the whole world. They do dominante the whole world for the most part, ofcourse idiots and classless and ignorant people will do their best to conform to their ideals, I mean, even us Nigerians relax our perfectly beautiful hair to look European. No culture or country has been spared from such bullshit.
Re: [DELETE} by superman(m): 12:22am On Oct 03, 2006
hahah

believe it or not the east africa think we are ugly african humans and yoruba talk like monkeies woaaa ewooo ho ho !  somailia is even a joke but ahhhhhaha

hahhaha
Re: [DELETE} by Brownsuga(f): 2:28pm On Oct 03, 2006
superman say sth sensible,
Re: [DELETE} by Brownsuga(f): 3:19pm On Oct 03, 2006
Besides, all Africans in the continent discriminate against one another,
Its not sth just fixed in the East/Horn
And most importantly, like mrmajor said, "we cant paint all pple with the same brush",
Re: [DELETE} by superman(m): 4:32pm On Oct 03, 2006
Brownsuga !
im afraid that shambolic post of urs wouldnt dampen the truth! this fools think we are monkeis ! dnt cut it! leave it raw as it is
Re: [DELETE} by Brownsuga(f): 4:48pm On Oct 03, 2006
superman:
this fools think we are monkeis ! dnt cut it! leave it raw as it is
Superman, i dont.
Re: [DELETE} by Nobody: 5:48pm On Oct 03, 2006
Superman never says anything sensible so asking him to do so is like asking a fish to walk on land. Impossible@ lipsrsealed
Re: [DELETE} by chinani(f): 7:29pm On Oct 03, 2006
Why are we still repeating this? We've already determined (t/o personal experience) that not all of "them" believe this . . .and if they do, so what? It doesn't kill me. tongue
Re: [DELETE} by superman(m): 9:55pm On Oct 03, 2006
well just because i dnt support some people well they could say watever they want but the truth still stand ! these fools think we are animals with big nose maybe u will realise that one day
Re: [DELETE} by chinani(f): 10:52pm On Oct 03, 2006
@Superman
You experience is your experience. Based on my experience that's not what 'they' think. Not SW of the Mason-Dixon line. Maybe you'll realize that one day.
Re: [DELETE} by Brownsuga(f): 10:56pm On Oct 03, 2006
Superman, i hope you will learn the lesson i have learned soon,
Not all people from the Horn of Africa are per se bad,
Just like, not all Nigerian pple are all per se bad,
Re: [DELETE} by superman(m): 10:59pm On Oct 03, 2006
k my sisters i heard yall loud and clear! but emm hey i see these ppl almost everyday here in london ha
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