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Transformation, Not Consolation by shaneroberts26: 12:15pm On Jun 24, 2015
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Why is the world so sick today? Why are misery and tension increasing?

It is the outcome of all the idiotic ideas that have dominated humanity in the past. It was bound to happen. All the religions are responsible for it. What they have done, whether knowingly or unknowingly, is the cause of the misery, suffering, anguish of the whole of humanity. Let us think of the most fundamental causes one by one.


The first: All the religions have been imposing the idea that God has created the world and God is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent. He knows all, he is all-powerful, he is everywhere.

This idea prevented man from doing anything to life to make it better, beautiful. When somebody all-knowing, all-powerful, everywhere present, is looking after the world, then what can you do? How far can you see? What can be your contribution? If God is the creator of the world, you cannot improve upon it. If you do anything you can only harm it. You cannot inform it; you cannot be wiser than God. This idea is one of the most basic causes of the whole anguish through which humanity is passing, and perhaps may perish in. Just think: the way I see it, there is no God who is creating the world, who is looking after the world. Don’t throw this responsibility onto someone who doesn’t exist. It is we who are here - in every way responsible to make or mar the opportunity.

Remove God and put man in his place, and you will have a totally different world. The suffering is absolutely unwanted. The anguish is our stupidity. Man can live a tremendously rich, blissful, ecstatic life. But the first thing is, he has to accept his responsibility.

All the religions have been teaching you to shirk your responsibility: Throw it onto God! And there is no God. You don’t do anything because you think God is going to do everything - and there is no God to do anything. Then what else can you expect? What is happening and has happened and is going to happen is the natural outcome of this idea of a creator.

If man was told, “This is your existence; you are responsible whatever you are, whatever you do, and whatever happens around you. Be mature. Don’t remain childish..” But this God does not allow you to mature, his “godness” depends on your immaturity, on your childishness. The more stupid you are, the more gullible you are, the greater is God. The more intelligent you are, the lesser is God.

If you are really intelligent there is no God.

Then this existence is there, you are there; then create. But the Creator does not allow you to become the creator.
Re: Transformation, Not Consolation by shaneroberts26: 12:17pm On Jun 24, 2015
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My whole approach is that you are to become the creator. You have to release your creative energies. And this is possible only if this God, who is nothing but a Godot, is removed, absolutely removed from your vision of life. Yes, in the beginning you will feel very empty because that place of God in you has been filled. Millions of years he was there; the sacred shrine in your heart was filled with the idea of God. Now, suddenly throwing it out, you will feel empty, afraid, lost. But it is good to feel empty. It is good to feel afraid. It is good to be lost, because this is the reality, and what you were feeling before was only fiction. Fictions cannot help much; they may give you some consolation, but consolation is not a good thing.

What is needed is transformation, not consolation. What is needed is treatment of all the diseases that you have been carrying, not consolation. So the first thing is: remove God. Don’t wait for any Godot. There is none. There has never been any.

Friedrich Nietzsche said.I disagree with him, but my disagreement is totally different from the disagreement of others, of all others who disagree. Nietzsche says, “God is dead.” Of course Christians have differed, Muslims have differed, Hindus have differed, Buddhists have differed, everybody has been against Friedrich Nietzsche. I am also against him, but my reason for being different is that God is not dead because he has never been alive. Even to say, “God is dead,” is to accept that he was there and now he is no more. No, he was never there in the first place. Man has lived under a fiction.

And this situation, this misery, this increasing tension... The tension is so much that now in the most advanced countries, the second greatest factor causing death is not a disease but suicide. One feels so utterly tense, day after day, and there seems to be no way out. And the anguish goes on increasing, and one cannot even see the reason for what we are suffering. Why should we be suffering? What have we done? Life itself seems to be worthless. A point comes in the intelligent man’s life when he sees it is all futile, meaningless.

Then why go on dragging? Why not finish it? Why not get rid of it? It has not given you anything except pain. It is not going to give you anything else except pain. Yes, there is an opium somewhere - the hope: perhaps tomorrow things may be different. Perhaps, if not today, tomorrow you may be able to get some moment of bliss. But even then it does not seem to be worth it. Such a long caravan of miseries, and then once in a while a moment when you can smile, laugh. And by the time you have smiled it is gone. Perhaps that moment is also your imagination. Just to keep yourself going you start dreaming of things which are not really there; you wanted them to be there. That’s actually the function of dreaming.

Do you know? It has been a strange discovery of modern psychology.. For centuries we had thought that dreams are useless, just a disturbance in the night. To have a dreamless sleep has been thought a healthy goal. For ten thousand years Yoga has been teaching that dreamless sleep is the most beautiful experience, but what we have found recently goes against this whole thing. You can drop your dreamless moments of sleep without any harm to you, but you cannot drop your dreams.
Re: Transformation, Not Consolation by shaneroberts26: 12:18pm On Jun 24, 2015
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If you sleep eight hours, then almost two hours you have - in fragments, in total two hours - sleep without dreams, and six hours sleep with dreams. It has been experimented with, now we know. There are instruments which give the indication of whether the person is dreaming or not dreaming. Even without instruments, if you watch his eyelids, you can know immediately. If his eyes are moving inside the lids, he is dreaming - because he is seeing things, movement. If the eyes are static, not moving, and the lids show no movement of the eyes inside, that means dreams have stopped. No sophisticated instruments are needed. But now we have sophisticated instruments which make a graph when the person is dreaming, when the person is not dreaming - just like a cardiogram.

They disturbed a few sleepers when they were dreaming; they would disturb them immediately, they would wake them up. They would allow them only those two hours of nondreaming. In the morning they were utterly exhausted, lustless, with no desire to live even. This was strange, because all the old yoga in India, in Tibet, in China - different schools and different people not connected with each other at all - they have always been saying, “If you can have two hours of dreamless sleep, that is enough nourishment, enough to rejuvenate you.” It has not been found true. But if you disturb those two hours when they are not dreaming, and allow them those six hours of dreaming, in the morning they get up so fresh, so young, so rejuvenated, so full of life and juice and so eager to live.

When for the first time it was discovered, it was a shock. Dreams are absolutely necessary for these people. For what reason? - they have not been able to find the reason. They will never be able to find it because that reason can be found only through deep meditation, there is no other way to find it. By psychological experiments they will not be able to find out the reason.

But through meditation something happens which is dreamless, sleepless. Both are not there; neither the dream is there nor is the sleep there. You are fully awake. The body is fast asleep in a deep rest, but your consciousness is absolutely cloudless. There is no sleep. Inside like a flame you are alert, awake, watching - that there is nothing to watch! The body is asleep and there is nothing to watch. But the watcher is.

You can only watch the watcher. You can only observe the observer. You can only be aware of your awareness. But there is no sleep, no dream. And in the morning you are as fresh as it is possible to be. So the psychologists will not be able, they have not yet been able and will never be able to know, unless they start moving toward meditation. And there seems to be no sign of their movement. In fact they are very antagonistic to meditation, and I can understand why. They are antagonistic to meditation because meditation can dissolve all your problems, can dissolve all your psychic anxieties, and with them goes the whole profession of the psychologist.

Just as the priest has been afraid that God should not be doubted, the politician has been afraid that the priest should not be doubted; because if God is doubted, the priest is gone, his priesthood is gone. And there are millions of priests in the world: Hindus, Catholics, Jews, rabbis, ministers, missionaries, pundits, imams, shankaracharyas - millions of priests in the world who depend on a single concept of God. Drop that idea and all these will be nowhere. Right now they have great prestige, power. Who will be the pope when there is no God? What will be his position? This pope will have to go back to his country Argentina. He will become a laughingstock.
Re: Transformation, Not Consolation by shaneroberts26: 12:19pm On Jun 24, 2015
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God is not there. With him, the Holy Ghost disappears, the Son disappears. He is the central focus of the whole fiction. Remove that central idea and the whole palace made of playing cards simply falls on the ground. Just a little whip is needed.

The psychologist is afraid of meditation. Now psychology is a big profession. Jews never do small things. They created this stupid Christianity, and for two thousand years they have been grudging: “We missed the chance. We would have made the great profession, which the Christians are doing. How did we miss Jesus? It was simply a great business, and we missed the point. We couldn’t see that this man is going to be such a big deal.” He proved the biggest business deal in the world. Jews cannot forgive him. If they get him again they will crucify him again, for another reason this time: “Why didn’t you tell us in the first place that this is going to be a big business? - we would not have crucified you.”


And then they nearly missed the second - Sigmund Freud - but this time they were more aware, they have not missed so much. Ninety percent of the profession is still in Jewish hands. All the great psychologists and psychoanalysts and therapists - ninety percent of them are Jews. It is their monopoly. And Freud single handedly created the whole profession, the whole science. He was very much afraid of meditation, tremendously afraid.

Jung, his most intimate disciple and, in the beginning, his possible successor, was so much afraid of meditation, that when he went to India, wherever he went - and he went to Khajuraho, to the Taj Mahal, to Fatehpur Sikri, old, ancient places - everywhere it was suggested to him that, “You should go to Arunachal in the south of India, the very south, deep south. There is a man, Sri Ramana, who can give you immense insight into human nature, about which you have been working your whole life.” But he was afraid to go there.

And Ramana was certainly the man who could have given him, shared with him, something of meditation. But he would not go. Outright he rejected it, saying, “All this meditation is unscientific.” Now his statement is unscientific, because nobody has tried to explore meditation scientifically. On what grounds is he saying that all this meditation business is unscientific?

I know the space when there is no sleep, no dream, and still I am there. Certainly dreams are needed, but not by me. Perhaps ninety-nine point nine percent of people, or even more, need dreams, six hours of dreams in the night. And do you think that’s all? Are you not dreaming in the day too?
Re: Transformation, Not Consolation by shaneroberts26: 12:19pm On Jun 24, 2015
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Any time, close your eyes and you will find the dream is there, running. The dream is always there. You are listening to me, and a dream will be there. You are walking on the road, and the dream is moving inside you. Of course when you are awake your attention is divided: you have to be alert to the outside world, otherwise people think you are spaced out. You are not spaced out, you are spaced in! Your attention is no more out. You are clouded with dreams and you have forgotten the objective world. Six hours in the night, and how many hours in the day? Nobody has yet measured how many hours in the day. I don’t think that you have even two hours in a day, just as you have in the night, without dreams.

I don’t think you have two hours in a day without dreams, because if you can have two hours without dreams, fully awake, those two hours will become your meditation. They will reveal immensely valuable secrets to you.

But ordinary humanity, the average man, needs dreams. Why? - because life, in reality, is so unsatisfactory, so ugly, so stinkingly ugly. Those dreams substitute for it. They are beautiful. They bring fragrance in your life, hope, fiction. They help you to remain sane. The reality will drive you insane.

And to me, God, the Holy Ghost and the Son, and the pope, the infallible pope - of course he has to be infallible, he represents the messiah, the only begotten son of God; how can he be fallible? - the infallible pope.. And every religion has similar things. You need these people - they are fictions created by your misery, and cunning people using your misery to exploit you and to have their power trip.

The politician needs these people also. Even a mad politician like Adolf Hitler needed the blessings of God. If there is no God, who is going to bless Adolf Hitler? And the chief Christian priest in Germany blessed him. Now see the miracle: Adolf Hitler was being blessed by God’s priest: “You will succeed.” Churchill was being blessed in England by the same God’s priest: “You will be successful.” Benito Mussolini was blessed by the pope himself: “You will be successful.” And nobody sees the contradiction, that one God, one infallible pope.and this German priest is under the pope!

But the pope has to bless Benito Mussolini, otherwise Mussolini will throw him out and put somebody else as the pope who is ready to bless him. Benito Mussolini is not a fascist when he is in power. Even the pope says, “He is the most wise man, the most democratic, most human” - Benito Mussolini! And the same pope, after Benito Mussolini is defeated, will declare him a fascist. And these are infallible people.

Can’t you see a simple conspiracy between the priest and the politician? The masses are befooled. The priest gives the sanction from God: certifies that this is the right man to be the president, this is the right man to be the vice-president, the prime minister. Of course the politician needs it because the masses will listen to the priest: the priest is impartial, he has nothing to do with politics, he is above politics - he is not! The priest is in the hands of the politicians.
Re: Transformation, Not Consolation by Nobody: 12:42pm On Jun 24, 2015
whats the summary in a nutshell..................... There is no God?

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