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Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by onelife97: 9:52pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
In as much as nobody likes the crazy wmd,mind u it guarantees the safety of a nation against external threats. You can imagine if Russia doesn't have any of these weapons,the crazy West would have invaded them long time ago ad they have bn battling Russia to come under their nwo s.hit part of which caused the ww2. If crazy Hitler hadn't bn backed and armed by the West, maybe he wouldn't had had so much power to wage a war. I think only the Americans have not really have the bitter taste of war of wmd on their own soil reason they r treading on the world like it belongs to them and them alone.And Britain too. Russia has provably learned after losing abt 25m of its citizens to the bloody cold hands of death during the ww2. Let's pray for the world peace. But the world can only have peace if we respect each other and stop excessive manufacturing of these dangerous weapons. Ifa says "alagbede ni ko je k'ogun o tan laye nitori ti won ba ji irin Kongbe kongbe ni won ma nro..." 2 Likes |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by SkinnyDude(m): 9:57pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
RichDad1:Lone survivor this movie is based on true life story' 4 US navy seal were sent to aghanistan to survey' but the operation didnt go wel. they were ambushed by taliban fighterz. they fought wel. but only one could survive |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by jomoh: 10:06pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
jossey94: Ever heard of divide and rule. Nigeria alone cannot unite totally, you're talking about Africa. krattoss: You can go to Syria and watch live like a live match. |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Nobody: 10:12pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:So na u sabi English! Rilwayne001:So na u sabi English! |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by IGWISE(m): 10:33pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Indeed we must avoid it |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by OmoUSH(m): 10:35pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Shymm3x:Shymmx or what do you call yourself, I understand all what you are trying to say but you gat 85% of your points bad regarding America's might. Here is what the book ''International Relations'' 3rd Edition has to say regarding this global empire, The United States is the technological giant of the world- indeed, of all time. WHATEVER OTHER PEOPLES AND NATIONSMAY THINK OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF HER POLICIES, THEY ARE ACUTELY AWARE OF HER TREMENDOUS POWER, BOTH ACTUAL AND POTENTIAL. Please note, I am German apologist not a pro American. America is the foundation of modern nuclear warfare. _To this day few Americans grasp that at Midway their navy won a sea victory to stand in military chronicles with Salamis and Lepanto. For the third time in planetary history, Asia sailed forth to attack the West in force with ultimate stakes of world dominion. At salamis the Greeks turned back the Persians; at Lepanto the Venetian coalition halted Islam; and at Midway the Americans stopped, at least for our century, the rising tide of Asiatic colour_ (From World Holocaust by General Armin von Roon, War and Remembrance). General Armin, convicted Nazi war general, writes this on Midway from prison in 1979. Hiroshima changed the history of universal warfare. On that early morning,August 6, 1945, that the United States bombed the city, Franklin Delano Roosevelt proclaimed in great announcement, ''the basic power of the universe'' had been unleashed against Japan. As the cold war began, it was really USSR that started the arms race, and by the late 50's, the Soviet Union conquered space by launching Sputnik 1. Thereby, the space age began. |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Rilwayne001: 10:43pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
NiftyViva: Of course. Had it been you sabi english, you wouldn't have ask me earlier on the meaning of 'pure lie' and at the same time talking about 'diluted lie'. All na simple/straightfoward english. Do you want me to be your tutor? 1 Like |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by PabloAfricanus(m): 10:59pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Shymm3x: LOL. Nice analysis...but still falls short on the real parameters that matter. I see you rooting for the underdogs...romantic but not enough to win a 21st century war. Almost anyone who has endured the shenanigans of the US would love to see their a.sses kicked by the Russkies or Chinks. You know...just for the emotional jerkoff effect. Let me list a few reasons why the US still trumps the rest. Let's start with the most important reason. Finance. The US literally has unlimited access to credit. This is the premise for any US-involved war in the first place. The dollar is printed by the US free of charge and all the nations have to struggle to sell to the yanks for the precious greenbacks. The bedrock of any economy today is the dollar reserves...which the Fed can print at will. In a war situation, nations with the resources needed by the US will accept dollar payments before yuan or roubles. Nations needed as allies can always be bribed with any required dollar amount. Why? Because confidence in US credit and therefore the dollar is unmatched. Even the entire Euro region does not have that capability. With the current global financial setup, the US can comfortably afford to fund multiple wars in different theaters without breaking a sweat. Sure their economy will take a hit if they press the pedal on the printing presses, but the global market's hunger for dollars is so much that any excess dollars in the market ARE GUARANTEED to be soaked up pretty quick. Infact, the US strategic planners have China already cornered. Why? China hold's the largest chunk of American debt. They're struggling feverishly to actually unload the excess dollars they have accumulated buying Fed treasuries and bonds. It's actually a dilemma for China because on one hand having a huge reserve of dollars gives them access to almost any market...they just have to flash the greenbacks. On the other hand, their global usage of the Federal Reserve Notes leaves them absolutely tied to America's apron strings. Their economic output, global investments, interest rates and central bank policies are effectively controlled from Wall Street. Any slight twitch in the values of Fed treasuries will hit them directly in the balls. So China cannot afford to go to war with the US. Their horde of dollars and Fed bonds will become toilet paper. As for Russia, they've been cornered since Gorbachev handed over what was left of Soviet Russia to the Jewish oligarchs. They too are largely dependent on dollar reserves. Russian billionaires hold more dollar assets than rouble assets. How many countries want to buy Russian bonds compared to the hot Fed treasuries? If they try to get funky with the US, their assets will just be frozen pronto. Already happened in Europe this week, check the news. US financial control is even more pronounced because China & Russia do not have any counter to the global banking network controlled from Wall Street. Heard they're already building new yuan/rouble credit card networks for bilateral trade, but how many countries will use those? Which countries will abandon the relatively safe London-Paris-NY network for some new fangled setup? How will they pay allied countries for needed resources in war time? Gold and silver hordes? Suicidal and unsustainable. If you are counting on the new Silk Road networks, remember how NATO blocked the pipelines Russia was already building through Eastern Europe? The whole Ukraine debacle was clearly a ploy to counter Russia being the long term supplier of gas to Europe. And the counter worked. Incase you are not aware the Silk Road networks are already being financed using dollars.US wins heads or tails. Why I agree the next war will be an orchestrated game between the great powers...is because almost all the powers that be...with the exception of Britain, are allowed access to the global financial markets at the whim of the US. Beat that. Its in their best interest to maintain the status quo in exchange for a compromise here and there. Next is combat experience. You seem to imagine all the US engagements since Vietnam have been child's play. Are you aware it has been rumored the US actually used Desert Storm as a cover to test new nuclear weapons? Check out the effects of depleted uranium (DU) on both American soldiers and Iraqi citizens after Desert Storm. Do you have any idea of the number of both experimental and production aircraft, armament and military doctrines the US has been able to effectively test in all the war theaters they've been involved in for the past 40 years? The US has retired 3gen, 4gen fighters alone on foreign engagements since WW2! Their 4gen and 5gen fighters routinely go for surveillance missions undetected over Russian and Chinese airspace. The US clearly has superior fighting gear and tools..on land, air, sea and space...unmatched and unparalleled. Their force projection capabilities is so sophisticated that even their military bases...contrary to what you postulated... are mostly full command and control centres. Fully equipped for both conventional and asymmetric warfare. Care to understand why they were able to chased Russia out of Afghanistan and made them watch while they caged Iran, Iraq and Pakistan? Ever wondered what Vietnam was all about? They made Russia watch while they knifed their allies, canceled their already inked trade agreements and pissed on their whole geopolitics. Beat that. Bravado does not win modern wars bro. Superior thinking, superior weapons and superior abilities trump all other cards. When you have over 3 generations of hard boiled soldiers who ACTUALLY get deployed to foreign countries and experience live COMBAT, you can't compare that to soldiers who are largely dependent of war college training and simulated drills. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE...and the gap is huge. These are soldiers trained not just in accurate shooting but in the operation of highly sophisticated military gear. And the US military doctrine if you've bothered to peruse it...is beyond brain washing. You are shown and given proof of your own invincibility as a US soldier. Those mofos are trained to dominate! If you consider the Marines as average, bear in mind the TOTAL number of special forces divisions the US has. Including the ones the public has no idea of! How do you even begin to engage a combination of SEALS, Delta Force, Marines, Green Berets, paratroopers and numerous special forces units of the US military? You've not even included regular army infantry units or navy assault units. To further buttress the above point, how many US soldiers have been brought back home in coffins compared to Russia and China? Say over the past 40 years? Do the body count and then tell me they died from friendly fire. Finally, maybe you've not realized it, the US is an empire. The biggest empire in world history. Great Britain effectively were eclipsed after WW1. In terms of economic output, financial strength, intellectual prowess and military might...the US is simply unparalleled. The next war will be a war of imperial proportions and you seem to imagine Russia or China can engage asymmetrically with America. The US is the new Rome and all pretenders will have it rough on any chosen theater. Bar any playing of the nuclear card, Russia and China will be bested eventually. They will be dragged and exhausted. China's mammoth army or reliance on ancient military tricks cannot best superior abilities ALREADY possessed by the US. Russia's superior military industry cannot win any war fought on Russia soil. They will put up a good defense, but will be exhausted finally. They cant finance a global engagement with the US. Same goes for China. For each modern fighting gear they field, the US can field atleast 20 more. For each motivated soldier they can field, the US have a more indoctrinated fighting force whose default mindset is in the infallibility of the US. When it finally comes down to conventional warfare, I hope you are not postulating Russia or China can outgun the US. In terms of raw fire power, the US is unmatched. Check out the stats on different military sites. For all the new tanks, anti-air craft and cruise missiles churned out by them, the US already has a ready counter. And then, you've not included new weapons research like drones, robots and satellite weapons. Or say air superiority, the Sukhoi line of fighters have not clearly proven they can compete with either the F-35 or older variations in direct confrontations. As a unit, the US airforce has more flying hours under its belt and has racked more live combat situations than any competitor out there. Only a combination of allied European airpower can pose a real threat to US air superiority. Over all air superiority is US turf...from the arctic to the antarctic...over the entire Eurasian airspace even. While Russia has a very capable military that can definitely match anything thrown out by the Americans, the combination of superior finances and superior combat experience will best them in the long run. China's mammoth army will simply be tutored by the US in ground warfare if they can bring the heat on. IMO, the apparent effective measures to counter US superiority as I have mentioned is firstly bringing the war directly to American soil and that failing, getting Europe to switch sides. America is unlikely to survive either. Sorry for the long epistle My opinions tho. 5 Likes |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Shymm3x: 11:11pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
PabloAfricanus: Lol. Nice and extremely long post. I don't think I can do proper justice to ya post at the moment cos I'm out and about, wilding with my doozies. But I shall post something more comprehensive when I get home. That said, I'm sure you know the yanks are broke, apart from the endless printing of the dollar by the Fed Reserve - due to the monopoly of the dollar as the international legal tender and petrodollar. And if a war were to kick off - that will negate the finances you are alluding to, and luxury of printing dollars excessively. |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Shymm3x: 11:23pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
OmoUSH: You defeated your own argument by calling yourself an apologist for a country in the Western axis. In case you don't know, the world has always been divided into two in the modern era - west and east. The South is inconsequential cos those who occupy the South are third world countries and they can't bite, apart from being an appendage to the big players. That said, though I'm more of a Brit - I'm not an apologist for anyone. I will take you the weakness of the UK, regardless of all the myths out there. But I do admire strong leaders, countries with a great history, and bravehearts with never say die attitude. Perhaps that is why you and a lot of folks always think I'm more pro-East than pro-West despite the objectivity in my posts. If it were about military posturing - the Vietnam war would have been a walkover for the yanks with all the agent orange, napalm, and carpet bombings of the Vietcong...but that wasn't the case and they lost against that ragtag army. Ditto the war in Korea against the Red Army and how the almighty coalition army ran at the Chongcho River (I don't know if I got the spelling right). You don't fight wars on paper - you fight on the battlefield. 1 Like |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by luwizz(m): 11:56pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
decode55:laugh don kil me |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by OmoUSH(m): 11:57pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Shymm3x:Seriously dude, I really thought you know what you've been talking about all along. You are just randomly ranting. Obviously, America is unparalleled in every way you can think about. |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by OmoUSH(m): 11:58pm On Jun 27, 2015 |
Shymm3x:Seriously dude, I really thought you know what you've been talking about all along. You are just randomly ranting. Obviously, America is unparalleled in every you can think about. cc. CHECK MY FIRST POST ON THIS THREAD IN PAGE 3. |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by emmatok(m): 12:00am On Jun 28, 2015 |
Shymm3x:LOL, I have noticed you always undermine the US when it come to international Relations and Military might. But the US seems to be the only Country fighting wars for the past 20 years till date, even when other countries are pulling out. And don't compare the NAVY SEAL or Marines to British SAS, the same SAS guys that were disgraced in Libya. Only the Russian Spetsnaz can confidently challenge the US NAVY SEAL or Marines. 1 Like |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Shymm3x: 12:24am On Jun 28, 2015 |
emmatok: Lol @ Libya. That just shows how clueless you are. Was that SAS or MI6 operatives? You mean the same SAS the Navy SEALs keep emulating? And how many videos are on the internet of US Marines crying, from Korean war, to Vietnam, to Afghanistan? Lool. Don't let the boys from the British Army and Royal Marines see what you posted - they will go nuts and post an expose of how average the US marines are. Utter useless without air cover and weak mentally lol. 1 Like |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Shymm3x: 12:33am On Jun 28, 2015 |
OmoUSH: Dude, you are an illiterate lol. You referenced a book and posted junk rambling on something with no correlation with the topic lool. |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by randwise(m): 12:37am On Jun 28, 2015 |
xp17:Baba, where do you come from? |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by princejayboss: 1:59am On Jun 28, 2015 |
tdayof: Taaaa talk what you know.... It's not all about fastness, it's about air superiority.... Kill in combat .... F15 eagle is still king of the sky in the hands of IDF pilots |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by haul: 2:10am On Jun 28, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Immediately I got to the german apologist shyte I rolled over,cause I was like aren't germany part of NATO anymore? He looks confuse, I won't be part of the dummies to conform to such subterfuge writings. |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by unphilaz(m): 3:52am On Jun 28, 2015 |
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Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Sentientcarbon(m): 4:39am On Jun 28, 2015 |
lozairio: That is incorrect, the Russian rarely ever attack because their strategy consists of just pushing human shields until the objective is achieved. But in terms of defensive warfare, they are unequaled. Attacking them in winter would result in devastating casualties for the invader because of high density of snow, infact there's a military saying that 'Russia has two great generals-December and January'. That leaves only ten months, their road networks are generally poor and hardly navigable therefore you would have to deploy tanks, using large aircraft which would be sitting ducks for their excellent Anti-aircraft defence systems. They have drones as well as manned aircraft to defend their skies. Deploying soldiers would generally be pointless if the supporting combat equipment(Tanks, ATV's) are not on ground. That probably leaves only one option-Nuclear ICBM's, which would be insanely risky and suicidal considering the current state of M.A.D(mutually assured destruction) between both countries. 1 Like |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by laidian(m): 5:20am On Jun 28, 2015 |
starlingslimnet: kikikikikikiki! Please be informed that Russia is the lord of space. There will be no clear winner between the duo; America leads Russia in precision weapons, with America's pre-emptive attack capability, Russia is still capable of destroying 70% of American cities without any problem. Don't forget that Russia unarguably has the best defensive system. May God forbid WWIII! |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by princejayboss: 5:20am On Jun 28, 2015 |
[quote author=PrinxArthur1 post=35191879][/quote] My brother I have happen to be close to this few research centers in Israel, one which we did in collaboration with IDF I came closer to the programs .... I came to realize that F-22 raptor is a demond ....as old as F15 is .... It will control the sky in the hands of IDF .... Even your government confirmed that IDF knows the F15 eagle more than they do.... |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by prof2015(m): 6:01am On Jun 28, 2015 |
PabloAfricanus:true. It's much more difficult fighting a war on your home soil than overseas then u think twice before destroying your own cities |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by alfredjay: 6:34am On Jun 28, 2015 |
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Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by alfredjay: 6:37am On Jun 28, 2015 |
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Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by chachanga: 7:18am On Jun 28, 2015 |
989900: YEP! the N/Koreans are trying to make a point, the Iranians however have no point, they just being insufferably Stewpid....crucifying da west and enojoying d best of western comforts and tech...Senior Bokos! 1 Like |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Immarocks(f): 7:35am On Jun 28, 2015 |
Freemanan:. but at least it should be moderate n should not be exposed to pple.......I live close to d barracks they are either cleaning or digging new wells to change position when it exploded 2 soldiers died n injured others....so imagine if it was one of those warheads.....now when little children hear a heavy/loud sound they begin to run n shout bomb bomb..... |
Re: Extreme Military Technology: Reason We Must Avoid World War III by Nobody: 7:54am On Jun 28, 2015 |
laidian:God is forbidden nothing. War has been declared and it will happen. You gotta adjust to it.See God said America will be defeated in an hour you see that? an hour.I mean the whole America with all it's territory and people and cities and buildings. Now that is impossible by human hand.I tell you America has the technology to stop a war before it starts. America can only be defeated by the Holy angels above. |
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