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Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by patrickmuf(m): 11:43am On Jun 26, 2015 |
cold:Grow up... |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Volksfuhrer(m): 11:43am On Jun 26, 2015 |
Something tells me Saraki just made the biggest mistake of his political career. The man is politically finished! 1 Like |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Firefire(m): 11:44am On Jun 26, 2015 |
Jorussia: Expel? NO! I think they should reconcile their differences instead of fragmenting the party further. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by cold(m): 11:56am On Jun 26, 2015 |
omenka:Tired noise son..soured grapes. Like i said earlier,you and your ilk will definitely come up with some feeble defence to explain away your absence without leave. I was spot on! No need trying so hard kid,i see through your shenanigans. You'll have to do better than throwing tantrums like a toddler who had his candy taken away 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Firefire(m): 11:57am On Jun 26, 2015 |
francizy: My brother, I do not think plotting anything at this moment is productive. Nigeria needs to move forward, this fighting and fracas could slow down our dreams, the wicked and selfish cabal would be rejoicing already. I am a full supporter of GEJ but I think Nigeria interest comes first over any party ambition. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by francizy(m): 12:05pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Firefire: By plotting, I mean, #occupying their wardrobes.. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 12:10pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
APC is the present opposition party in the NASS and there is no end in sight to this development. This is a lesson for a political system of winner takes all. Nigeria will be better with parliamentary system of government. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Firefire(m): 12:19pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: I tend to agree with you on the parliamentary system to be re-introduced back in Nigeria. Nigeria practiced parliamentary system of government in the First Republic between 1960 and 1966. While in a parliamentary system, the executive and the legislature are fused, with an executive Prime Minister chosen from within the legislature usually the head of the ruling political party or the heads the ruling coalition. However, for the currently running Presidential system of government and the current challenges, what do you feel could be the approach to get-out of this situation ? |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Wildrage: 12:32pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
The political space needs serious fulmigation and most political actors addicted to belligerence needs detoxification. The preceding year and months leading to the last election were made volatile by political actors and their supporters, what we are witnessing now is a natural spill over of the intolerance of that period. Like in war situation, most retiring combatants are debriefed and re orientate from their state of mental warfare to that of peaceful co-existence. APC politicians need to urgently switch back from that mental state of guerrilla warfare now that the "war" is won, otherwise the sharing of the spoils of war will remain acrimonious and the attainment of the objectives that sent them to the trenches will remain elusive. Unless the spoil is the main objective 1 Like |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Wildrage: 12:33pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Firefire: Hahahahahaha with parliamentary system, Nigeria would have a new prime Minister every other week |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Firefire(m): 1:00pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Wildrage: |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 1:33pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Wildrage: Even Japan had 5 Prime ministers in 6 years. That's not a problem, competence will prevail in the long run. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Wildrage: 1:53pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: Japan has strong institutions that can sustain the incessant transitions and they do not contend with the fault-lines of tribal and religious sentiments that has kept us in doldrums since amalgamation |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 2:07pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Wildrage: Since the establishment of State of Israel, only one government was able to complete its tenure. Remember, Israel became a country in 1948 and has fought many wars. Today, she's a developed country notwithstanding her Arab, Settlers, Jewish and Bedoiun populations. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by OAM4J: 2:24pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: Does that nPDP include Kwankaso and Amaechi who are not in support of Saraki? This is just Saraki and Atiku rebellion. APC can do without them for now. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by onatisi(m): 2:26pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
The way forward is to let the senate decide what it wants . Apc should retreat and allow the senators and saraki to solve their problems. 1 Like |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by OAM4J: 2:35pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: That is the reality I want APC to formally accept. There is no point claiming a majority that is out of your control. Let Saraki and his supporters form majority with PDP and allow those who are loyal and disciplined member of the party be in the minority while APC and Buhari focus on delivering their campaign promises. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 2:47pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
OAM4J: Kwankwaso and Amaechi may not be for Saraki but indifferent and definitely for Akitu Abubakar who is the architect of the coup. APC members with Saraki in the Senate is more than pro Akume hence the widely support for zonal caucuses against party directive. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by raumdeuter: 3:02pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Who is a Majority leader? He is a leader of the ruling party senators in the house. How can you be a majority leader when you dont enjoy the support of most of your party members OAM4J: I am against this slightly. If those senators or members dont want to follow the APC national authority then they should leave the party or be expelled. If Saraki wants to form majority with his PDP friends then no problem, but leave the APC and go form your own govt. I dont have a problem being the minority with APC as long as the core of the party remains core like GMB, Tinubu, Oyegun, El Rufai, AKume, Ngige and those who started the party. We needed those PDP defectors to win at the center, they are not needed anymore, elections is 4yrs away before then lets see what they would amount to APC should close ranks with the governors and let expel the erring Senators. APC should come out with a statement that they fully support PMB for 2015 and 2019 (So that all the pro-Atiku 2019 senators would be put on the spot) and expel all dissidents E.g in Kwara state 2019. Lets see under which Party Saraki would run. WHen the APC refuse to give him the ticket and the governor has exhausted his 2 terms. Let him go back to PDP and test his popularity |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Wildrage: 3:09pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: The population of Arabs settlers and Bedoiun in Israel are quite negligible and totally dissimilar to the tribal and religious mix in Nigeria. Israel , to a large extent is a homogeneous society and the issues that drives their politics are not as divisive as we have in Nigeria. There is nothing like power shift/rotation due to fear of political/economic domination by any region. There has never been any military incursion so the democratic culture has been nurtured since they became a nation state |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 3:20pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Wildrage: In parliamentary system of government as it relates to tribes in Nigeria, what matters are Hausas, Igbos and Yorubas, every other tribe/group can build alliance and fall behind them thereby narrowing our diverse differences to only three groups hence parliamentary system of government is advisable. On this premise, each block can even have 3 political parties and are free to form alliances each even across the bridges. |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Wildrage: 3:46pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
IsraeliAIRFORCE: With the manipulated census figure as we have it now, you can be sure that the North would forever produce the prime minister or determine who emerges as one and without the constitutional impediment of states 2/3. It was easier to practice in the first republic because we had regions instead of states and an alliance between two regions was needed to form the govt at the centre. With Zik and Awo forming an alliance in the 60s , wresting the power from the North was a very bright prospect until NPC sourced an over ambitious Akintola and rigged the election in the western region. That was what led to the collapse of the first republic. The North will never accept an arrangement that gives the other major/minor tribes equal opportunity/access to power |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by laudate: 3:48pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
Volksfuhrer: In what way? Pray, do tell.... |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Nobody: 3:48pm On Jun 26, 2015 |
APC is a disgrace to democracy A party that benefited from the grace of PDP to put the country first and accept defeat can not even accept the fate of House of Reps election which for all intents and purposes produced an APC speaker. Nigeria has clearly passed this level that APC are trying to drag us back to! APC should calm down and start the business of Governance. In America Presidents get to find ways to govern even when the opposite party control the legislature. But somehow APC can not tolerate fellow APC leadership in the NASS that they don't agree with. So much for democracy/progress/change! |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by ideology(m): 4:16am On Jun 27, 2015 |
Jesusloveyou:party's nomination is legal abi. Saraki was duly voted in even Tinubu and APC knows that |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by ideology(m): 4:18am On Jun 27, 2015 |
Volksfuhrer: 1 Like
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Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by ideology(m): 4:22am On Jun 27, 2015 |
Firefire:Tinubu needs to learn from obj how he has managed his relationship with the North and how he keeps to his words, and how he tries not to have the final say all the time, else. APC is going down. WARS TO COME -2019 |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by ideology(m): 4:28am On Jun 27, 2015 |
barcanista:Show me constitutional that the party is meant to anoint principal officers. Meanwhile read up senate standing orders, chapter 6, Rules 28, 29 &31. Nigerians voted change abi. This is change, where an individual or groups of individuals will no longer decide who is who Nigeria belongs to everyone and nobody 2 Likes |
Re: APC Crisis: Way Forward ? by Jesusloveyou: 8:46am On Jun 27, 2015 |
ideology:saraki duly elected? Wonders shall never end 1 Like |
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