rajwas:
You must be mentally sick.

mistabiola:
While it is true that most Christians TODAY do not worship
Mary, but MANY heretical Christians THROUGHOUT
HISTORY HAD DONE SO.

Regarding Sura 5 Verse 116 :
"And behold! Allah will say: O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst
thou say unto men, Take me and my mother for two gods
beside Allah? He will say: Glory to Thee! Never could I say
what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, Thou
wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my
heart, though I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden."

The above question will be put to Jesus(peace be upon him)on the DAY OF JUDGEMENT. And the purpose of Sura 5 Verse 116 is to answer ALL the Christians THROUGHOUT
the entire history of Christianity.
Let us not forget that ALL mankind since the beginning of
time will be resurrected on the Day of Judgement. Therefore it is only logical to answer the dilemma faced, not only by the Christians in our present era but by all Christians throughout the history of Christianity.

Let us also not forget that Christianity has never been a
united religion and will never be. On the contrary, it has
always been a totally divided religion. Just read the history
of Christianity and you will know.
What one Church teaches is significantly different from
what another Church teaches.

That is why Sura 5 Verse 116 states :

"And behold ... Didst thou say unto men, Take me( to
answer all the Christians throughout history ) and my
mother ( to answer those Christians in history who
worshipped Mary )for two gods beside Allah?"
I hope the points I just made above will put to rest once and for all the Christian accusation that our Holy Qur'an
mistakes Mary as part of the Trinity.

malvisguy212:
Cc confirma, rilwayn001

malvisguy212:
Surah 5:Verse 116, And behold!
Allah will say: O Jesus the son of Mary!
Didst thou say unto men, "WORSHIP ME
AND MY MOTHER as gods in derogation
of Allah?" He (Jesus) will say, [ a ]"Glory
to thee! Never could I say what I had
no right (to say)... [ b ] (Jesus speaks)
Thou knowest what is in my heart
though I know not what is in thine..."

Verse 118, (Regarding how God should
deal with Christians, Jesus is supposed to have said) [ c ] "If thou dost punish
them, they are thy servants: If thou
dost forgive them, thou art the exalted
in power and wise."

Jesus NEVER FOR ONCE told anyone to worship Mary, nor did the early church do so. Not even peter when Jesus say on the cross "behold thy mother" make reference to Mary in his epistle in regards to worshiping Mary infacte, Paul, James ,Timothy, and the rest apostles do not even made mention of Mary in there epistles, where do muhammed get the idea that christians worship Mary ?

And in surah 5:118. It says:
"If thou dost punish them, they are thy servants: If thou dost forgive them, thou art the exalted in power and wise."


Jesus would not teach that God could
forgive those who add to, or take away
from, his Word, when we read that God
had already condemned them in
Revelation 22. Muhammed has Jesus
saying, in Al Koran, Sura 5:118 "If thou
dost forgive them, thou art the exalted
in power and wise." God will not forgive
those who add to, or take away from, his Word. Muhammed then must have
added verse 118 out of his fertile
imagination, or perhaps he was trying to
cover for himself in the future judgment.

ShaheedBinAliyu:





simple understanding you no get.... besides, do you think it's Mohammed that wrote Quran? ain't you got brains? how can a illiterate write Quran?....



Jesus did not ask anybody to call him god or begotten son of God or ask anyone to worship Mary or ask anyone to go church or ask anyone to read bible or ask anyone following him to be call Christian or ask anyone to be celebrating Easter, Christmas, good Friday and others.. but people are doing these things and they are attributing it to Jesus... Allah will ask Jesus Christ that did Jesus commanded anyone to do any of these... since Jesus will say NO.. there is nothing Christians will say again to be not GUILTY of denying ALLAH.. And HELL FIRE IS UNBELIEVERS ABODE...



DO you UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VERSE MEANT NOW?

malvisguy212:
Nobody worship Mary , were did this idea come from ? Comperd it with the error muhammed made in calling Mary the sister of Aaron.

ShaheedBinAliyu:




when will you have brains o.... it's so glaring and clear... catholic worship Mary...



error? you think Quran is like your story book..point of correction my boy... Our creator wrote Quran..

if Mary ain't sister of Aron.. whose sister is she? laughing.. don't tell me you wanna quote from your contradictory story book..

malvisguy212:
if you accused catholic of worshipping Mary , then you too are guilty of the same thing , you worship muhammed. Catholic only honour her the way you guys honour muhammed above all other prophet.

Mary , sister of Aaron? Aaron who live 1000 of years before Mary? You are deluded.

malvisguy212:
if you accused catholic of worshipping Mary , then you too are guilty of the same thing , you worship muhammed. Catholic only honour her the way you guys honour muhammed above all other prophet.

Mary , sister of Aaron? Aaron who live 1000 of years before Mary? You are deluded.

malvisguy212:
if you accused catholic of worshipping Mary , then you too are guilty of the same thing , you worship muhammed. Catholic only honour her the way you guys honour muhammed above all other prophet.






laughing... did Muslims pray to Mohammed? do Muslims kneel before Mohammed statue to pray? do Muslim put Mohammed side by side with God? .... you seriously deluded... if you like, hide the truth... if you should die with this non believe in Allah and His prophets... it's risky for u o




Mary , sister of Aaron? Aaron who live 1000 of years before Mary? You are deluded.

malvisguy212:
if you accused catholic of worshipping Mary , then you too are guilty of the same thing , you worship muhammed. Catholic only honour her the way you guys honour muhammed above all other prophet.

Mary , sister of Aaron? Aaron who live 1000 of years before Mary? You are deluded.

malvisguy212:
Cc confirma, rilwayn001

malvisguy212:
Surah 5:Verse 116, And behold! Allah will say: O Jesus the son of Mary!
Didst thou say unto men, "WORSHIP ME AND MY MOTHER as gods in derogation of Allah?" He (Jesus) will say, [ a ]"Glory to thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say)... [ b ] (Jesus speaks) Thou knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in thine..." Jesus NEVER FOR ONCE told anyone to worship Mary,

And did the above verse said he did so

nor did the early church do so. Not even peter when Jesus say on the cross "behold thy mother" make reference to Mary in his epistle in regards to worshiping Mary infacte, Paul, James ,Timothy, and the rest apostles do not even made mention of Mary in there epistles, where do muhammed get the idea that christians worship Mary ?

Jesus would not teach that God could
forgive those who add to, or take away
from, his Word, when we read that God
had already condemned them in
Revelation 22. Muhammed has Jesus
saying, in Al Koran, Sura 5:118 "If thou
dost forgive them, thou art the exalted
in power and wise." God will not forgive
those who add to, or take away from, his Word. Muhammed then must have
added verse 118 out of his fertile
imagination, or perhaps he was trying to
cover for himself in the future judgment.

ShaheedBinAliyu:




Mary, the biological sister of Aaron?
This lengthy diatribe that Muhammad mistook Jesus for
Esau (brother of Jacob) is based on this passage:
"Then she brought him to her own folk, carrying him. They
said: O Mary! Thou hast come with an amazing thing. O
SISTER OF AARON! Thy father was not a wicked man nor
was thy mother a harlot."
Quran 19:27-28
The Christian IDOL-WORSHIPPERS claim that since the
MOTHER of ESAU was REALLY the BIOLOGICAL SISTER of
AAROON the Prophet made a "mistake."
However, It is clear that Mary WAS figuratively
a "O SISTER OF AAROON" - WHY?
Because both the Bible and Quran agree she was a LEVITE
i.e. a member of the tribe of hereditary "cohens" or
"priests" in Judaism. (All
ultimately descendants of Aaroon)
How do I know this? Mary's cousin was Elizabeth
whom we are told "belonged to a priestly family"
(Luke 1:5, 36). See also Quran 3:35-36 (stating
Mary was descendent of priestly line of Imran).
A female descendent of the hereditary priesthood could
quite properly be called a "sister of Aaroon!

Rilwayne001:


It is rilwayne001 and not rilwayn001



And did the above verse said he did so



[b] Ok, well read the official rosary of the Catholic Church!

"Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail, our life,our sweetness, and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve! To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning.and weeping in this vale of tears. Turn then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us; and after this, our exile, show us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement,O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!"
http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/rosary.htm

Sorry, this is not use of icons or statutes to "assist" worship - it is pagan prayer to OTHER THAN ALLAH!

Also, Catechism of the Catholic Church, (p. 125) goes thus: "495 ... In fact, the One whom she conceived as man by the Holy Spirit, who truly became her son according to the flesh, was none other than the Father's eternal Son, the second person of the Holy Trinity. Hence the Church confesses that Mary is truly "Mother of God" (Theotokos). [/b]




There is no point quoting the book of revelations to make your point. The book is a witness against itself.

jcross19:
now I know if muslim scholar want to prove wrong of koran to right then you will see their stupidity, now in your english we can substitute great grand ancestor with brother in order to fit your ignorance even your so called learned can't say what you just posted. Well if you don't know jesus christ is the creator of mohamMAD possess by demon if you doubt it the same koran says that a bird made by clay became living being when jesus breath into it then who give life?.

ShaheedBinAliyu:





is it Allah that call Mary sister in the verse.,?? it's bystanders that did... if you refuse to accept Islam.. when you die, you will regret been born... Allah talked about people like you in Quran... always misundersting Allah miracles.. even after been told the truth, they refused... you not the first and won't be the last

jcross19:
simple question your koran says a bird made by clay turned to living creature when jesus breath into it then tell me who give life ? If not God . If jesus could gave life to that bird then who is that isa masi?

malvisguy212:
you failed it , woefully!!!

catholic prayer, is it the word of Jesus?

esus never for once in the bible command christians to worship Mary ,not even the early disciples make reference of her.

The catholic prayer you paste never say , worship Mary , it only make Mary an intercessor for sinners.

ShaheedBinAliyu:



ALLAH created Jesus... Allah does miracle through His prophets if He wishes....


even in your story book called bible, Jesus accepted that he cannot do anything without Allah

malvisguy212:
Nobody worship Mary , were did this idea come from ? Comperd it with the error muhammed made in calling Mary the sister of Aaron.

malvisguy212:
if you accused catholic of worshipping Mary , then you too are guilty of the same thing , you worship muhammed. Catholic only honour her the way you guys honour muhammed above all other prophet.
Mary , sister of Aaron? Aaron who live 1000 of years before Mary? You are deluded.

Rilwayne001:


Really?



See jamb question oo. Are you asking me whether it is the word of Jesus? Is the bible the word of Jesus?



Does it matter whether Jesus commanded christians to worship her or not? Did Jesus ever mention 'Trinity' before you introduce the notion of trinity? Did early disciple believe in Trinity?



Surah Al-Fatiha, Verse 5:
You (Alone) we worship, and you (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything).

Now, reconcile the above with this, " "Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of Mercy, hail, our life,our sweetness, and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve! To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning....."

Secondly, here is that the Quran say: Surah Al-Ikhlas, Verse 3:
"He begets not, nor was He begotten;

Now, reconcile the above with this, ".... [color=green] Hence the Church confesses that Mary is truly "Mother of God" [/green] (Theotokos).

Thirdly, here one of those protestant website you usually copy your gibberish from asking exactly the same question: [size=14pt] Is worship of saints / Mary biblical? [/size] http://www.gotquestions.org/worship-saints-Mary.html

What's your take on this^?

jcross19:
simple question your koran says a bird made by clay turned to living creature when jesus breath into it then tell me who give life ? If not God . If jesus could gave life to that bird then who is that isa masi?

jcross19:
[s]I asked simple question who is authorise to give life? Is there any man that can turn non living thing to living thing? Even your book of poems can't deny His authority. Through the same jesus allah the demon was made .[/s]

Demmzy15:

You're the one who's deluded!

The verse in question is this:

At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: "O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought! "O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!" [Qur'an 19:27-28]

The same question you're asking arose also during the time of Prophet Muhammad and he answered with this hadith.

In Ṣaḥiḥ Muslim, a ḥadīth related by Mughirah ibn Shu‘bah [5326] says:
Mughira b. Shu‘ba reported: When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read "O sister of Harun" in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: "The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them."

Moreover, ShaheedBinAliyu also gave an explanation. Lemme make this clear, open ya eyes and read before asking me Amy senseless questions!

[size=18pt]#ChristainsStopTakiyyahNow[/size]

Demmzy15:

Even the bible attested to the fact that Jesus couldn't do anything on his own, so it is left to you to show me where Muslims are obliged to take Jesus as their god and Savior from the Quran. ((shikena)) Stop using the Qur’an because it's always against you!

Demmzy15:
Learn how to talk!

malvisguy212:
my friend, you failed woefully,very wrong!!!

There were Arabian Christians living in a town called Najran who understand the bible very well , muhammed always find it difficult to deal with them.this quranic verse struck them:

(Surah 19:27, 28). It reads:
"Carrying the child, (Jesus), she (Mary)
came to her people, who said to her:
"Mary, this is indeed a strange thing!
SISTER OF AARON, your father was never a LovePeddler-monger, nor was your mother a harlot.""

This verse states that after Mary gave
birth to Christ,her townsfolk reproached
her. They thought she was not married,
and assumed that she committed sexual sin because she gave birth.

In their reproach, they called her,"Sister of
Aaron". This mistake was discerned by the Arabic Christians of Najran. There is a record of them exposing Muhammad's mistake.

Sahih Muslim, the Hadith related by
Mughirah ibn Shu'bah, #5326, says:
"When I came to Najran, they (the
Christians of Najran) asked me: You read "Sister of Harun", (i.e. Mary), in the
Qur'an, whereas Moses was born well
before Jesus. When I came back to
Allah's Messenger I asked him about
that, and he said: "The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their
persons) after the names of Apostle and
pious persons who had gone before
them."" [Sahih Muslim, translated by
Abdul Siddiqi].

Examine Muhammad's explanation. He
said, "The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostle and pious persons who had gone before them".

Do we have any evidence that anyone
else was ever called, "sister of Aaron",
besides his real sister?

If there would be one place where Mary
or someone else might be called "sister
of Aaron", it might be in the Bible. But
there is no place where Mary or anyone
else is metaphorically called "sister of
Aaron".

[s]When the NT refers to people being
called after saints of old, it calls them,
"SON" or "DAUGHTER". Jesus is called "son of David" in Matthew 21:9, and Elizabeth is called, "daughter of Aaron" in Luke 1:5, etc. Abraham is referred to as "father" by the Jews in John 8:38. But NEVER are these people called, "brothers or sisters" after any of the previous saints. The uses of these "son " and "daughter" idioms were accepted and understood by all in that culture. And their use makes sense. Since the great pious people of old helped to create or establish the nation of Israel, people following afterwards are
understandably called, "son" or
"daughter" after them. We use this same idiom model in this day. There is an American organization called, "Daughters of the Revolution". Perhaps you can think of other people or groups called "sons or daughters" after famous people who are now dead.[/s]

jcross19:
learn how to comprehend .