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Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 12:13pm On Jul 03, 2015
a friend of mine bought this bus last year as toks ( diesel ). He gave it out to someone for transportation/hire. according to him, one problem to other, he has been managing the problem but this time around the bus is longer starting. kazeem said the nozzle was blocked and the nozzle is not even available so the only option now is for kazeem to change the engine. i have decided to take up the job from kazeem. i need somebody who has a scan tool to scan the bus first before looking for another kazeem or a pro. if you are pro and can fix diesel cars/buses please contact me for urgent rescue. i will not allow kazeem to change the engine just because of nuzzle or......
these details of the bus:
Engine No. 1521892
Chassis No. KDH2000058701
To make matters worst kazeem said the engine is a Chinese engine that it has to be be changed to Japanese or ......
Any diesel pro should contact me.
location is Warri, Delta State.
What colud be wrong with bus?
Thanks for your advice and rescue

Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 12:15pm On Jul 03, 2015
This is the reason why we siena in nigeria
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by Mojibola(m): 2:25pm On Jul 03, 2015
It likely has something to do with fuel, fuel lines and fuel pump. I really doubt if the whole four nozzles can all be blocked at once.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 2:29pm On Jul 03, 2015
I don't know for Kareem o
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by Nobody: 7:50pm On Jul 03, 2015
Juo, please take some pictures of the engine, and post them here. I need to identify the engine currently in the van.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by krystaball: 7:55pm On Jul 03, 2015
Call 07011822425 to scan your bus if you are in lagos.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by Nobody: 7:56pm On Jul 03, 2015
I also need the engine code. These are the alphabet that generally precede the engine number.

Like these examples:

1ND.
2LT.
3LT.
1KZ-T.
1KZ-TE.
1KD-FTV.
2KD-FTV.
1AD-FTV.
2AD-FTV.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 8:10pm On Jul 03, 2015
Siena:
I also need the engine code. These are the alphabet that generally precede the engine number.

Like these examples:

1ND.
2LT.
3LT.
1KZ-T.
1KZ-TE.
1KD-FTV.
2KD-FTV.
1AD-FTV.
2AD-FTV.
Boss this is the engine :2KD-FTV
Will try and get pictures tomorrow
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by Nobody: 9:12pm On Jul 03, 2015
JUO:

Boss this is the engine :2KD-FTV
Will try and get pictures tomorrow

So it's a Toyota D4-D 2.5 DOHC 16V Common-Rail Diesel.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 9:20pm On Jul 03, 2015
Maybe sir because I don't know. I'm just a novice trying to help. What is the way forward sir?
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by oktawian(m): 7:47am On Jul 05, 2015
First, scan the whole car, do not change any parts yet !!

Check the cambelt, try to turn the engine manually using crankshaft bolt ,

What about the fuel filter ?

If you can turn the engine with no problem, try to start the engine using this method :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06auEEt6T48

What they using is a cockpit cleaner spray
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 7:27pm On Jul 05, 2015
please house what is the voltage going into the injector?
if is something one can read manually
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 7:38pm On Jul 05, 2015
oktawian:
First, scan the whole car, do not change any parts yet !!

Check the cambelt, try to turn the engine manually using crankshaft bolt ,

What about the fuel filter ?

If you can turn the engine with no problem, try to start the engine using this method :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06auEEt6T48

What they using is a cockpit cleaner spray
thanks for your reply. the bus starts this way but will go off once the fuel you manually sprayed is finished
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by oktawian(m): 7:46pm On Jul 05, 2015
Ok so it's a matter of fuel distributions. Now you need to check if its mechanical or electrical problem .

Did you scan the car yet ?
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 8:11pm On Jul 05, 2015
no. most kazeem here don't use scan tool. i will look for someone to scan it tomorrow
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 8:17pm On Jul 05, 2015
Oga siena, can the DPF blockage trigger the ECU to stop supplying fuel ?

Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by Nobody: 9:01pm On Jul 05, 2015
JUO:
Oga siena, can the DPF blockage trigger the ECU to stop supplying fuel ?

No.

A bad SCV (Suction Control Valve) could cause a non-start situation. I would start with a scan, then take things from there.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 9:14pm On Jul 05, 2015
ok, boss. i will get it scanned tomorrow and post the code
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 9:44pm On Jul 08, 2015
House here are the codes

Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 9:51pm On Jul 08, 2015
what could make the car/bus not to start?
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by oktawian(m): 10:45pm On Jul 08, 2015
It will be the wiring ...

P2716 Pressure Control Solenoid " D " Electrical
P2770 Torque Converter Clutch Solenoid Circuit High

Did you scan whole car ? Cos those errors are from auto gearbox ?
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 11:46pm On Jul 08, 2015
oktawian:
It will be the wiring ...

P2716 Pressure Control Solenoid " D " Electrical
P2770 Torque Converter Clutch Solenoid Circuit High

Did you scan whole car ? Cos those errors are from auto gearbox ?
yes, every other parts of the car said no fault. moto na manual not auto
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 11:47pm On Jul 08, 2015
Siena:


No.

A bad SCV (Suction Control Valve) could cause a non-start situation. I would start with a scan, then take things from there.
OGA siena can P2716 pending line pressure control be the suction valve you talked about?

Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by oktawian(m): 9:38am On Jul 09, 2015
Trouble Code:
System:
Subsystem:
P2716 - (ASE)
Powertrain
Transmission Controls


DTC Description: Pressure Control (Solenoid D) Electrical

This error is not a ECM error its auto tranny error as i said.

And as far as i know it could read them cos there is no auto tranny.

Try another scaner. Scan ECM - engine and immobiliser , try to read real data not only read errors.

What is the year model of this van ?


Did you try to start the engine using spere key ?
Is there any fuel in common rail ?



Check this link

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/aut/ph/editorial/green/feb08/Common-Rail-Diagram-1.jpg

Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by edoyad(m): 10:11am On Jul 09, 2015
From my limited knowledge, thinking it might be bad a ECU . Once had some work done on a toyota 2006 Camry with battery heads still connected, didn't kick for a week afterwards. Roadsides had me changing fuel pump and all before it was discovered that the part of ECU which controls the nozzles was burnt.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by oktawian(m): 10:14am On Jul 09, 2015
If it would be the ECM, the scanner would put an info that it can't connect with ecm.

Thats why it's really important to read real data not only errors.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 5:56am On Jul 12, 2015
So all the people claiming to be guru don hide except for area father our big oga Siena
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 5:59am On Jul 12, 2015
Anyway working on the fuel pump because that is the only thing stopping fuel from getting to the injectors

Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 6:02am On Jul 12, 2015
This is the fuel pump but Kareem said there's no fuel pump

Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by oktawian(m): 8:26am On Jul 12, 2015
Sad to tell but, i can see that now it's looking like kazeem fixing.

Did you scann the whole car 2nd time ? Did you checked real data ?

Did you cheked if there was any fuel in common rail ?

Did you cheked if there is any low pressure fuel pump in the fuel tank ? And if it is there, is it working ?\


Give me your chassis number, i will check epc for this car.
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by oktawian(m): 9:01am On Jul 12, 2015
Re: Toyota Hiace Bus Not Starting by JUO(m): 10:25am On Jul 12, 2015
oktawian:
Sad to tell but, i can see that now it's looking like kazeem fixing.

Did you scann the whole car 2nd time ? Did you checked real data ?

Did you cheked if there was any fuel in common rail ?

Did you cheked if there is any low pressure fuel pump in the fuel tank ? And if it is there, is it working ?\


Give me your chassis number, i will check epc for this car.


KDH2000058701

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