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Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 11:06am On Jul 11, 2015
United States coach Jürgen Klinsmann said this to a New York Times reporter before the 2014 World Cup in Brazil: “We cannot win this World Cup, because we are not at that level yet. For us, we have to play the game of our lives seven times to win the tournament”.

This was a brutally honest quote which the Americans are not used to in the field of sports; in fact, the USA was one of four countries that believed that they would win the World Cup in a pre-tournament poll.

Our presumptive coach of the Super Eagles Sunday Oliseh might well be bold in his introductory press conference to blurt this out: “We cannot win the next World Cup. The reasons are not farfetched; we don’t have the players that can win the Cup in four years. We do not even have any players in the very lucrative European league market this off-season.”

In sports or in football, you win with talent and not coaches. Your coach is your gateway for a good and talented team of players, and that is what Oliseh’s job description should be.

Klinsmann’s job in the US is to turn the football programme around. He is to build a team that can contend every four years. He is also the technical director of USA football and he must develop a coherent style of play that will be employed at all levels of US teams. However, Klinsmann is hated by MLS teams because he sends all talented young Americans into Europe instead of going to university and he proactively identifies and recruits dual nationals.

Before Oliseh’s coming, here is what the new NFF has been doing – actively recruiting dual nationals to play for Nigeria, and installing a committee within the Federation to identify and send abroad our young talented Nigerians. What we read about the present negotiations between the NFF and Oliseh is that the former Super Eagles captain will have the duty of crafting playing style for Nigerian football, a playing and coaching philosophy.

He will be assisted by a Belgian technical coach whose functions will be to tutor our young players and coaches. Oliseh will draw a five year plan for Nigerian football and will be actively involved in the development of players within our system.

You can see that the roles of Klinsman and Oliseh are very similar; but Oliseh does not carry the same coaching experience that Klinsman has.

Besides a UEFA Pro license, Oliseh has not coached any team of importance. Though he seems to be very good in his football speaking and writing engagements, his understanding of the game on paper cannot be disputed. His understanding of the game as a player cannot also be disputed but our only concern is his lack of coaching experience at top club level or country.

But our concern will be valid if we think that we have the players that can win the World Cup in 2018; then we can complain about his lack of practical coaching experience at this level but if as I believe that we are nowhere near getting a quarter final berth at the World Cup, then a man like Oliseh is the best shot at improving our football. He has the paper qualification, he is charismatic enough to be a good leader; he has already shown that he has exceptional communication skills (oral and written) and his technical understanding cannot also be overlooked, for he was on the FIFA Technical Study Group at the 2014 World Cup Brazil.

Oliseh coming on board only shows that the NFF sees our football problems, our lack of good players who can compete at the highest levels of the game.

Sunday Oliseh must be given a chance, he must be provided with all the resources needed and he must not be ‘hounded’ for results.



http://m.goal.com/x/en-ng/news/13485582
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by onosprince(m): 11:07am On Jul 11, 2015
ok but we get to win U-17 by using old men to play small children and when we reach U-20 we
no dey fit play anything... No start with excuse we use God take beg u
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by jerflakes(m): 11:18am On Jul 11, 2015
onosprince:
ok but we get to win U-17 by using old men to play small children and when we reach U-20 we
no dey fit play anything... No start with excuse we use God take beg u

Excuses already?

That will dampen the spirit of our boyz.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by nerodenero: 11:23am On Jul 11, 2015
Our presumptive coach of the Super Eagles Sunday Oliseh might well be bold in his introductory press conference to blurt this out: “We cannot win the next World Cup. The reasons are not farfetched; we don’t have the players that can win the Cup in four years. We do not even have any players in the very lucrative European league market this off-season
We might struggle to qualify for the next AFCON and not certain that we will. If we qualify for it, we can win the next AFCON let alone win the World cup because we lack quality players and our individual skills that we were known for is simply a mirage now.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:41pm On Jul 11, 2015
We know. Even if d whole of Africa put all their talents and form 1 team we cant win it.

Oliseh qualify us for AFCON 2017 first na ur first huddle b dat. Not 2018WC.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by easyelliot(m): 1:11pm On Jul 11, 2015
I don't really care about afcon, let's build a team towards 2018. I like the plan they seem to be trying to implement. We need to monitor our Nigerians with dual nationalities before they all join the Qatari national team.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by AikayDaWrapper(m): 2:54pm On Jul 11, 2015
2018 is too close. We have to start building a team for the 2022 world cup now by developing our young talents who will be in their prime by that time.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:00pm On Jul 11, 2015
easyelliot:
I don't really care about afcon, let's build a team towards 2018. I like the plan they seem to be trying to implement. We need to monitor our Nigerians with dual nationalities before they all join the Qatari national team.

2018 is too close. 2020 Olympics and 2022 WC is more like it.

Winning the AFCON 2017 or 2019 or both & presenting a very descent performance @ 2018 WC is also a path way to 2022 WC success.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 3:50pm On Jul 11, 2015
Sunday Oliseh contract is a 5 year deal with the task of overhauling Nigeria's football right from the grassroots to the senior level. He will come out with a road map of leading us back to our glory days as obtained from the 94 squad..
The foreign expatriate will be in charge of scouting young starlets and helping our coaches.
Salisu will be in charge of the home scene. He will make sure he has an eye on quality players in the NPFL, he will be in charge of the team B which is a feeder team to the main squad...

Nigerians will have to be very patience with Sunday Oliseh and his crew, beside Westerhoof painstakingly built our glorious 94 squad in 5 years..

Look at Keshi, for over 4 years, he has no nucleus for the super eagles.. .

All hands must be on deck for us to get back our rightful place in the world map of football...
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by arisekola77: 5:11pm On Jul 11, 2015
#chassis
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by PubLlcEnemy(m): 5:34pm On Jul 11, 2015
Daninya11:
United States coach Jürgen Klinsmann said this to a New York Times reporter before the 2014 World Cup in Brazil: “We cannot win this World Cup, because we are not at that level yet. For us, we have to play the game of our lives seven times to win the tournament”.

This was a brutally honest quote which the Americans are not used to in the field of sports; in fact, the USA was one of four countries that believed that they would win the World Cup in a pre-tournament poll.

Our presumptive coach of the Super Eagles Sunday Oliseh might well be bold in his introductory press conference to blurt this out: “We cannot win the next World Cup. The reasons are not farfetched; we don’t have the players that can win the Cup in four years. We do not even have any players in the very lucrative European league market this off-season.”

In sports or in football, you win with talent and not coaches. Your coach is your gateway for a good and talented team of players, and that is what Oliseh’s job description should be.

Klinsmann’s job in the US is to turn the football programme around. He is to build a team that can contend every four years. He is also the technical director of USA football and he must develop a coherent style of play that will be employed at all levels of US teams. However, Klinsmann is hated by MLS teams because he sends all talented young Americans into Europe instead of going to university and he proactively identifies and recruits dual nationals.

Before Oliseh’s coming, here is what the new NFF has been doing – actively recruiting dual nationals to play for Nigeria, and installing a committee within the Federation to identify and send abroad our young talented Nigerians. What we read about the present negotiations between the NFF and Oliseh is that the former Super Eagles captain will have the duty of crafting playing style for Nigerian football, a playing and coaching philosophy.

He will be assisted by a Belgian technical coach whose functions will be to tutor our young players and coaches. Oliseh will draw a five year plan for Nigerian football and will be actively involved in the development of players within our system.

You can see that the roles of Klinsman and Oliseh are very similar; but Oliseh does not carry the same coaching experience that Klinsman has.

Besides a UEFA Pro license, Oliseh has not coached any team of importance. Though he seems to be very good in his football speaking and writing engagements, his understanding of the game on paper cannot be disputed. His understanding of the game as a player cannot also be disputed but our only concern is his lack of coaching experience at top club level or country.

But our concern will be valid if we think that we have the players that can win the World Cup in 2018; then we can complain about his lack of practical coaching experience at this level but if as I believe that we are nowhere near getting a quarter final berth at the World Cup, then a man like Oliseh is the best shot at improving our football. He has the paper qualification, he is charismatic enough to be a good leader; he has already shown that he has exceptional communication skills (oral and written) and his technical understanding cannot also be overlooked, for he was on the FIFA Technical Study Group at the 2014 World Cup Brazil.

Oliseh coming on board only shows that the NFF sees our football problems, our lack of good players who can compete at the highest levels of the game.

Sunday Oliseh must be given a chance, he must be provided with all the resources needed and he must not be ‘hounded’ for results.



http://m.goal.com/x/en-ng/news/13485582



Sunday oliseh is a fool and a loser.

You don't need talent to win the qa major tournament like the world cup... All you need is a good coach,hard work from the coach and players and total commitment and belief in the course.

Argentina had more talent than Chile, yet they lost the last copa america to chile...

Greece won the 2004 european nations cup without any known talent. Beating the likes of talent filled France,portugal e.t.c.

Please Nigeria does not need another loser of a coach.... Even keshi never said this.

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Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 9:49am On Jul 12, 2015
PubLlcEnemy:



Sunday oliseh is a fool and a loser.

You don't need talent to win the qa major tournament like the world cup... All you need is a good coach,hard work from the coach and players and total commitment and belief in the course.

Argentina had more talent than Chile, yet they lost the last copa america to chile...

Greece won the 2004 european nations cup without any known talent. Beating the likes of talent filled France,portugal e.t.c.

Please Nigeria does not need another loser of a coach.... Even keshi never said this.

You have a point though.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by AikayDaWrapper(m): 9:56am On Jul 12, 2015
PubLlcEnemy:



Sunday oliseh is a fool and a loser.

You don't need talent to win the qa major tournament like the world cup... All you need is a good coach,hard work from the coach and players and total commitment and belief in the course.

Argentina had more talent than Chile, yet they lost the last copa america to chile...

Greece won the 2004 european nations cup without any known talent. Beating the likes of talent filled France,portugal e.t.c.

Please Nigeria does not need another loser of a coach.... Even keshi never said this.
Chile are a talented team with pacey strikers and a solid defensive structure. That Greek team was also built on defense and a lot of luck.

Tell me which good nigerian defenders we have.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by PubLlcEnemy(m): 10:01am On Jul 12, 2015
AikayDaWrapper:

Chile are a talented team with pacey strikers and a solid defensive structure. That Greek team was also built on defense and a lot of luck.

Tell me which good nigerian defenders we have.

there is no luck in football.


Give me the name of the Greek defenders in that tournament? You can even remember becos the were unknown.... I bet if it was oliseh he would say Nigeria cannot win that nations cup keshi won,becos ivory coast had more talent than Nigeria

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Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 8:38am On Jul 14, 2015
PubLlcEnemy:


there is no luck in football.


Give me the name of the Greek defenders in that tournament? You can even remember becos the were unknown.... I bet if it was oliseh he would say Nigeria cannot win that nations cup keshi won,becos ivory coast had more talent than Nigeria

Hehehehehehehe

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Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Haywhymido(m): 4:02pm On Jul 14, 2015
does dat means we will win d nxt nation cup
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 4:27pm On Jul 14, 2015
can't wait for more of these for nigerian football lovers

Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jul 14, 2015
Haywhymido:
does dat means we will win d nxt nation cup

Should in case we don't win.
We no get talent..
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by jieta: 7:37pm On Jul 14, 2015
Daninya11:

Hehehehehehehe
stop laughing reply him
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jul 14, 2015
jieta:
stop laughing reply him

On a serious note, talent without hardwork can take you places, hardwork without talent can also take you places but a combination of talent and hard work can take you places unimaginable.

We have to first nurture our PROMISING TALENTS, allow them to go through a PROCESS before becoming FINISHED PRODUCTS.

IF after 5 years, Sunday Oliseh has not given us a nucleus of the team, he should be shown the exit door to just like Keshi who left the SE without a nuclei.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by 9aijaboi(m): 8:04pm On Jul 14, 2015
onosprince:
ok but we get to win U-17 by using old men to play small children and when we reach U-20 we
no dey fit play anything... No start with excuse we use God take beg u
He is telling us the bitter truth instead of sweet lies and not excuses...
Okay, do we have key players shinning at international Clubs at the moment?
It's not like I am supporting or happy about the news but know the difference between excuses and bitter truth.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by cantell(m): 8:13pm On Jul 14, 2015
PubLlcEnemy:



Sunday oliseh is a fool and a loser.

You don't need talent to win the qa major tournament like the world cup... All you need is a good coach,hard work from the coach and players and total commitment and belief in the course.

Argentina had more talent than Chile, yet they lost the last copa america to chile...

Greece won the 2004 european nations cup without any known talent. Beating the likes of talent filled France,portugal e.t.c.

Please Nigeria does not need another loser of a coach.... Even keshi never said this.
Funny enough, the first line of your comment sounds like the words of a fool and a loser.
You don't need talent? Wtf!
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by jieta: 8:27pm On Jul 14, 2015
Daninya11:


On a serious note, talent without hardwork can take you places, hardwork without talent can also take you places but a combination of talent and hard work can take you places unimaginable.

We have to first nurture our PROMISING TALENTS, allow them to go through a PROCESS before becoming FINISHED PRODUCTS.

IF after 5 years, Sunday Oliseh has not given us a nucleus of the team, he should be shown the exit door to just like Keshi who left the SE without a nuclei.
ur analysis is ok, bt why dont u for once give some credit to keshi for atleast the little sucess he has brought to us.

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Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 8:47pm On Jul 14, 2015
jieta:
ur analysis is ok, bt why dont u for once give some credit to keshi for atleast the little sucess he has brought to us.

I am not taking anything from Keshi, he has done well for Nigeria and we will forever be grateful to him. .

But sir, which will you go for?? ?...
African success or World wide success..

Westerhof gave us a nucleus for the Super Eagles before his exit.. The nucleus died out abruptly spearheaded by this same Sunday Oliseh. He is now saddle with the task of giving us back what he destroyed.. .
I hope he succeeds. ..

Let us invest in long term basis and not short lived success..
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by jieta: 8:59pm On Jul 14, 2015
Daninya11:


I am not taking anything from Keshi, he has done well for Nigeria and we will forever be grateful to him. .

But sir, which will you go for?? ?...
African success or World wide success..

Westerhof gave us a nucleus for the Super Eagles before his exit.. The nucleus died out abruptly spearheaded by this same Sunday Oliseh. He is now saddle with the task of giving us back what he destroyed.. .
I hope he succeeds. ..

Let us invest in long term basis and not short lived success..
u are talking as u are not a nigerian, who give a fukk abt long term goal, if trully we need a long term goal to be sucessful i believe during the time of amodu when we were in 19 position in the world and second in african we would have build on that success.

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Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 9:05pm On Jul 14, 2015
jieta:
u are talking as u are not a nigerian, who give a fukk abt long term goal, if trully we need a long term goal to be sucessful i believe during the time of amodu when we were in 19 position in the world and second in african we would have build on that success.





Hmm, sorry to burst the bubble of millions of Nigerians.. I dont see we making it to Afcon 2017.
If you ask me, we started on a bad note. .
And if Sunday Oliseh fails to qualify the team?? ?
He will be shown the exit door.
And the circle continues.

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Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by Nobody: 9:25pm On Jul 14, 2015
PubLlcEnemy:



Sunday oliseh is a fool and a loser.

You don't need talent to win the qa major tournament like the world cup... All you need is a good coach,hard work from the coach and players and total commitment and belief in the course.

Argentina had more talent than Chile, yet they lost the last copa america to chile...

Greece won the 2004 european nations cup without any known talent. Beating the likes of talent filled France,portugal e.t.c.

Please Nigeria does not need another loser of a coach.... Even keshi never said this.

Seriously u have a point. But pls can a team like Ethiopia, Sudan, Congo win the WC?
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by PubLlcEnemy(m): 9:27pm On Jul 14, 2015
cantell:

Funny enough, the first line of your comment sounds like the words of a fool and a loser.
You don't need talent? Wtf!

Your wh0re mother is a fool and a loser.
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by PubLlcEnemy(m): 9:36pm On Jul 14, 2015
Ayolaw2003:


Seriously u have a point. But pls can a team like Ethiopia, Sudan, Congo win the WC?

Yes...

And Nigeria is not ethiopia and sudan... Nigeria is a footballing nation with lots of football talents with good understanding of the game as well as foreign based players... Nigeria has a history in football. We have a better history than Greece and even portugal and even chile that just won the Copa America. Nigeria was once in the Top 7 FIFA ranking... Nigeria used to the rated ahead of spain... If you have been foloowing football you will know all these...

The current fifa ranking is
1.ARGENTINA
2.GERMANY
3.BELGIUM
4.COLOMBIA
5.NERTHERLANDS

Of this 5 nations only Argentina has always been a thorn on our flesh and we never had a history with Germany.

Imagine Belgium and Colombia... Trust me if not for the decay of the Nigerian football as a result of NFF mismanagement,Nigeria has gotten to the level of World cup contenders.

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Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by cantell(m): 1:22am On Jul 15, 2015
PubLlcEnemy:

Your wh0re mother is a fool and a loser.
Anu ohia! If my mum was as foolish as you are, I'll simply disown her. Idiat! You had to show your 'mumudity' here. Ode!
Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by PubLlcEnemy(m): 6:43am On Jul 15, 2015
cantell:
Anu ohia! If my mum was as foolish as you are, I'll simply disown her. Idiat! You had to show your 'mumudity' here. Ode!
That's why you will remain a bastard...


Even if my mum is the worst in the world I will not disown her... Fool.

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Re: Sunday Oliseh ;We Don't Have The Talents To Win The Next World Cup by edi287: 8:56am On Jul 15, 2015
Ayolaw2003:


Seriously u have a point. But pls can a team like Ethiopia, Sudan, Congo win the WC?
Good question.

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