revolt:
very retrogressive form of reasoning. Remain small una for be mallams. If our ports for a start were operational om pretty sure a sizeable number of us wouldn't be outside eastern region. We really do not care about false population representation. Those are troviaall. We're more interested in commerce and profit.

Look at you. So what are you doing in North, seaport dey for Sokoto?

Oni sokuso!

ImperialYoruba:


Look at you. So what are you doing in North, seaport dey for Sokoto?

Oni sokuso!

ashiwere yi si Soro...hmm kosi wahala ooo

Efewestern:


Never disputed the fact about the itsekiri/yoruba relationship, But the fact on ground is that Deltans (Urhobo Isoko, itsekiri etc) still pay homage to the Bini throne, politically speaking the Bini's do not have much influence on the region, even during the Mid-western regional government, the Urhobos were politically ahead of every one in the region (That doesn't mean we are superior).

Now about the bolded, The Mid-western region was a small region with less than a thousand soldiers so they couldn't do much to stop the invading troops, but even at that they still showed some serious resistance before calling Lagos for assistance, I doubt similar situation can happen now.

Are you aware that the first non-Yoruba political movement to be created in Lagos, ahead of others, was by Urhobos?

That political movement, created somewhere early 40s, opened eyes of Edo leaders and gained momentum into what would lead to the referendum in 1963 of a MidWestern region.

I am cognisant of the political successes and how Urhobos shaped thoughts in the Midwest. Somehow that power was taken from you when Bendel was created and subsequently Edo.

History serves a purpose and howevrr long in the past it may be it will continue to inject itself into definitions around politics and culture. Look at Edo history and tell me if they can survive as a standalone political entity, a self-propagating and independent nation with zero alliances to any other. The answer is no! They must find alliances to attach to for greater political gains.

There is a reason Europe had an allied force and attached itself to America to counter the threat from Eastbloc. It paid off! Their traditions, monarchies, cultures...all intact and not disrupted by the instruments of their alliance.

I hate to accept this, even though it makes sense....an independent Edoland, and all its sub-lands will ultimately call to Yoruba to formulate an alliance of protection and political advancement. The very reason for which the 63 referendum was pushed to create Midwest will be reversed to rejoin Edo under an umbrella of a strong political (but relaxed cultural) affiliation, championed by Yoruba, particularly on the coast and towards river Niger.

The threat you face from an independent Biafra is less to that faced by the people in the COR region, nonetheless it is there and must not be dismissed.

Urhobos are more capable than any other of the Edoid groups to lead and champion a political mainstream for your people. You have demonstrated capability in that area many times before.

PrecisionFx:


isoko was in eastern nigeria.

Goan read.

Even Asaba was not in Eastern Nigeria. So how can Isoko be in Eastern? Explain this.

revolt:
ashiwere yi si Soro...hmm kosi wahala ooo

Im ready to send you and the remnant of your blood saved from massacre in war back to your genealogical root in Bantu forest. Its only a matter of time. Your destiny will soon land in front of you. Keep raising your head to a superior Imperial power....we shall crush and reconquer you!

Hehe

ImperialYoruba:


Im ready to send you and the remnant of your blood saved from massacre in war back to your genealogical root in Bantu forest. Its only a matter of time. Your destiny will soon land in front of you. Keep raising your head to a superior Imperial power....we shall crush and reconquer you!

Awon osiro ti okan n wa lati?
See this pikin dey talk to elder. I will sell u in Eko. Mtchweee. se diedie oo

Is it true that Lokoja is shared by 5 ethnic groups?

ImperialYoruba:


Even Asaba was not in Eastern Nigeria. So how can Isoko be in Eastern? Explain this.

Initially there was nothing like mid western region in nigeria, It was North west and east. It was just a political creation which usually occurs in nigeria. This is the same way that SS came to existence. SS doesnt exist in geography

Christistruth00:
Is it true that Lokoja is shared by 5 ethnic groups?

Hausa/Fulani is a settler in Lokoja.

Yoruba is one of the indigeneous of Lokoja.

PrecisionFx:


Initially there was nothing like mid western region in nigeria, It was North west and east. It was just a political creation which usually occurs in nigeria. This is the same way that SS came to existence. SS doesnt exist in geography

Western Region extended from boundary of Nigeria and Republic du Benin eastward till you arrive on river niger bank. Isoko and Asaba were in Western region, never in East. They left Western to exist as MidWest.

ImperialYoruba:


Are you aware that the first non-Yoruba political movement to be created in Lagos, ahead of others, was by Urhobos?

That political movement, created somewhere early 40s, opened eyes of Edo leaders and gained momentum into what would lead to the referendum in 1963 of a MidWestern region.

I am cognisant of the political successes and how Urhobos shaped thoughts in the Midwest. Somehow that power was taken from you when Bendel was created and subsequently Edo.

History serves a purpose and howevrr long in the past it may be it will continue to inject itself into definitions around politics and culture. Look at Edo history and tell me if they can survive as a standalone political entity, a self-propagating and independent nation with zero alliances to any other. The answer is no! They must find alliances to attach to for greater political gains.

There is a reason Europe had an allied force and attached itself to America to counter the threat from Eastbloc. It paid off! Their traditions, monarchies, cultures...all intact and not disrupted by the instruments of their alliance.

I hate to accept this, even though it makes sense....an independent Edoland, and all its sub-lands will ultimately call to Yoruba to formulate an alliance of protection and political advancement. The very reason for which the 63 referendum was pushed to create Midwest will be reversed to rejoin Edo under an umbrella of a strong political (but relaxed cultural) affiliation, championed by Yoruba, particularly on the coast and towards river Niger.

The threat you face from an independent Biafra is less to that faced by the people in the COR region, nonetheless it is there and must not be dismissed.

Urhobos are more capable than any other of the Edoid groups to lead and champion a political mainstream for your people. You have demonstrated capability in that area many times before.

shh The Edo won't join any forces with any Yoruba group.

If Nigeria do divide, the old Bendel will reclaim it's stance, we ain't going into that Niger delta nonsense.

Remember Bendel state is bigger than eastern states joined together

Efewestern:


How can any reasonable person lump Isoko under Igbo, I don't want to even talk about ijaw, you leave Edo, leave Urhobo, it's Igbo you decided to group Isoko under, nothing we won't read on this forum.

If there is any group that will even want to lay claims to the ethnic groups occupying Delta State (Urhobo,isoko,Itsekiri etc) then it should be Bini.

I also see how you subconsciously fail to recognize Bini as an ethnic group, even when it is on record that they influenced both the present day Igbo and Yoruba, I'm not even pro-bini as I do have some clash with them once a while.

In all, Isoko is not Igbo, can't even be classified as igboid, I see no reason for such connectivity, you should be more concerned about your ikwerre brothers and Co, not some Edoid group you know nothing about.

you are not even pro bini.

Are you ready to form a country with us?

ImperialYoruba:


Bini is a ruling dynasty originating from Yoruba. Bini itself is not an ethnicity but the elites of the monarchy are ethnically Yoruba.

Edo is the ethnicity which owns the land occupied by Bini.

So Edo is ethnic, Bini is dynasty. The two have different ethnic origins.

Isoko, Urhobo are Edoid.

Itsekiri people are Ijebu origins. Their monarchy is of the Benin dynasty stock.

this Yoruba people don't know their history.

Even though Bini don't have a successor, the next royal family will claim the throne..

We didn't ask Yoruba people for a king, our king was there in Ife already, he sent his son which have half Yoruba blood and part Benin.

He was the first oba.

Stop spreading nonsense, if you want us to take you seriously, reclaim your own throne from the Fulani and put the afonja descendant first.

PrecisionFx:


Igbanke are Igbos and can never ever trace their origin to Bini.

Wen did Bini become a tribe or ethnic group

Wen did Edo become a tribe or ethnic group

chai education is not good oo..

When you hear of edo, what comes to your mind is Benin abi?

Just like how yorubas sons left Ile Ife to found new kingdom same with the igodomigo people.

The farer they are from the kingdom, the same way their language becomes different.

Bini is just one tribe, urhobo is another, isoko another, esan another, afemai another..

I heard an ijaw Man was from bini and was angry and left, I don't care they create their own country.

Edo nation is bigger than igbo. That's a fact.

You guys are landlocked. Small in size. And are disliked.

When I see ignorant people talk about south south,niger delta and Biafra nonsense I just laugh.

The only ethic group that can stand on their own are the yorubas and Edo.

Biafra need the ijaw or liked they say south south.

The Hausas, I don't even know about those ones.

Donmedrac:
chai education is not good oo..

When you hear of edo, what comes to your mind is Benin abi?

Just like how yorubas sons left Ile Ife to found new kingdom same with the igodomigo people.

The farer they are from the kingdom, the same way their language becomes different.

Bini is just one tribe, urhobo is another, isoko another, esan another, afemai another..

I heard an ijaw Man was from bini and was angry and left, I don't care they create their own country.

Edo nation is bigger than igbo. That's a fact.

You guys are landlocked. Small in size. And are disliked.

The number 1 reason people dislike others is jealousy. Humans on average do not hate or dislike people who they are better than, That is why with all the hatred n dislike u people have shown the igbos, We still ignore u completely n do not respond.

Edo is a state in nigeria and even all the tribes that u listed as edo nation make up less than 25% of the igbo population in nigeria so dont even go thers, Upeople are pure minority in this country.


Define landlocked.

This guy is having mental problem Oooo, Forming a Country, lmao. This is classic bipolar disorder.

Donmedrac:
you are not even pro bini.

Are you ready to form a country with us?

PrecisionFx:



The number 1 reason people dislike others is jealousy. Humans on average do not hate or dislike people who they are better than, That is why with all the hatred n dislike u people have shown the igbos, We still ignore u completely n do not respond.

Edo is a state in nigeria and even all the tribes that u listed as edo nation make up less than 25% of the igbo population in nigeria so dont even go thers, Upeople are pure minority in this country.


Define landlocked.

I don't even believe in Nigeria population nonsense.

To know the real figure,look at the population of those tribes before civil war.

Do igbos have access to sea?

PrecisionFx:
This guy is having mental problem Oooo, Forming a Country, lmao. This is classic bipolar disorder.

smh, igbos are the only tribe agitating for Biafra.i am just looking at different scenarios

Donmedrac:
I don't even believe in Nigeria population nonsense.

To know the real figure,look at the population of those tribes before civil war.

Do igbos have access to sea?

I don't care weda u believe the Nigerian population, facts that all Edo bini isoko n ishekiri na minority where igbos dey.



Pls stop wasting time, define landlocked.

Donmedrac:
smh, igbos are the only tribe agitating for Biafra.i am just looking at different scenarios

Other tribes love Nigeria.

PrecisionFx:



I don't care weda u believe the Nigerian population, facts that all Edo bini isoko n ishekiri na minority where igbos dey.



Pls stop wasting time, define landlocked.

do you have access to sea?

Donmedrac:
this Yoruba people don't know their history.

Even though Bini don't have a successor, the next royal family will claim the throne..

We didn't ask Yoruba people for a king, our king was there in Ife already, he sent his son which have half Yoruba blood and part Benin.

He was the first oba.

Stop spreading nonsense, if you want us to take you seriously, reclaim your own throne from the Fulani and put the afonja descendant first.

How did your king get to Ife from Edo?

ImperialYoruba:


How did your king get to Ife from Edo?

how did oduduwa get to Ife?

YorubaFynest:


In brotherhood ko in Nollywood ni. Keep lying to yourself. Nigeria is not united now and it will never be.

Yorubaland, the most peaceful Islamic and Christian region in Nigeria, the most progressive region in the South, the most democratic African tribe, the most accommodating (foolishly) people in Nigeria.

We have nothing in common with extremist in the south and hostile people in the East.

Heediot! That's all what I'll say about you. Cause you don't deserve a sensible argument!

Sharpshooota:

Well done... We need more almajiris to man our Gates

Savage ASF

ImperialYoruba:


Are you aware that the first non-Yoruba political movement to be created in Lagos, ahead of others, was by Urhobos?

That political movement, created somewhere early 40s, opened eyes of Edo leaders and gained momentum into what would lead to the referendum in 1963 of a MidWestern region.

I am cognisant of the political successes and how Urhobos shaped thoughts in the Midwest. Somehow that power was taken from you when Bendel was created and subsequently Edo.

History serves a purpose and howevrr long in the past it may be it will continue to inject itself into definitions around politics and culture. Look at Edo history and tell me if they can survive as a standalone political entity, a self-propagating and independent nation with zero alliances to any other. The answer is no! They must find alliances to attach to for greater political gains.

There is a reason Europe had an allied force and attached itself to America to counter the threat from Eastbloc. It paid off! Their traditions, monarchies, cultures...all intact and not disrupted by the instruments of their alliance.

I hate to accept this, even though it makes sense....an independent Edoland, and all its sub-lands will ultimately call to Yoruba to formulate an alliance of protection and political advancement. The very reason for which the 63 referendum was pushed to create Midwest will be reversed to rejoin Edo under an umbrella of a strong political (but relaxed cultural) affiliation, championed by Yoruba, particularly on the coast and towards river Niger.

The threat you face from an independent Biafra is less to that faced by the people in the COR region, nonetheless it is there and must not be dismissed.

Urhobos are more capable than any other of the Edoid groups to lead and champion a political mainstream for your people. You have demonstrated capability in that area many times before.

Stop trying to cause division between The Edoid peoples. You are mischievously spreading hate and division.
I see your mischievous tactics
Urhobos and Edo are brothers, we all originate from Benin City. In fact Nigerians as a whole especially in southern Nigeria are a close family
and are related.
I know your agendas are wicked, and are to spread hate and discord

ImperialYoruba:


The safe way out of that is not to even put Yoruba and Edo together in any post and avoid any hint that Bini is Edo. We are not same people with Edo, they have their own separate and unique identity. Bini's umbilical is tied to Ife.

Itsekiri, whether Ijebu or Ilaje is entirely Yoruba origin.

Edo has its own grouping and their originality has not been lost. Recently Ijaw has attempted to change that originality. If care is not taken they will succeed because Edo is deeply focused on the wrong thing. Edo leaders are stuck in a past that has lost relevance in modern world. I will use a case in Yorubaland to give you example.

No person becomes governor in Yorubaland without first seeking and obtaining endorsement from crowned Obas in his state. Once he becomes governor no prince is crowned an Oba in his state unless he authorizes the staff of office be given to the choosen prince. In Oyo, this relationship existed between the paramount Alaafin and the Esos. Nobody authorized staff for Alaafin, its his birthright. Times have changed. Alaafin was overheard sometime ago advising Oluwo about this change in power and telling him that the governor can sign a paper and depose him (Alaafin), much more a lower Oba like Oluwo. This is recognition and an acknowledgement of the times we live in.

Do you know how many Emirs are under the command of the Sultan? His domain span into Niger. Abacha deposed a sitting Sultan and then had him exiled like criminal back to his mothers home in Adamawa state.

All monarchies in Africa are no longer seats of absolute power, they are only ceremonial relics of culture.

Edo leaders have not come to grips with this reality yet. They are loosing political realities to conservatism and preservation of relics. They should accept reality of modern times and get their politics together fast. Biafra will become reality, it might not be in this administration or next, or one after it....but Ibos will eventually get their way and become independent. When it happens, Edoland will be tested. This is time to get the boundary right and enforse it so you are not caught unprepared.

They tested Edo once, in 1967. They will attempt again when they successfully have a sovereingty.

Istekiri's are mainly Edo, they are mixed with Yorubas, They have more Edo culture.
They do speak a Yoruboid language but are more Edo

Have you seen the work Obaseki has been doing for the state. What do you mean the leaders don't have their priorities straight?

Edophobic people all throughout nairaland

Donmedrac:
do you have access to sea?

.

Efewestern:


How can any reasonable person lump Isoko under Igbo, I don't want to even talk about ijaw, you leave Edo, leave Urhobo, it's Igbo you decided to group Isoko under, nothing we won't read on this forum.

If there is any group that will even want to lay claims to the ethnic groups occupying Delta State (Urhobo,isoko,Itsekiri etc) then it should be Bini.

I also see how you subconsciously fail to recognize Bini as an ethnic group, even when it is on record that they influenced both the present day Igbo and Yoruba, I'm not even pro-bini as I do have some clash with them once a while.

In all, Isoko is not Igbo, can't even be classified as igboid, I see no reason for such connectivity, you should be more concerned about your ikwerre brothers and Co, not some Edoid group you know nothing about.

If you check it, you will see that the person you quoted is Yoruba. I am tired to trying to explain to my Yoruba brothers and sisters that Akwaibomites are not igbos. They don't get it

Favor99:

Istekiri's are mainly Edo, they are mixed with Yorubas, They have more Edo culture.
They do speak a Yoruboid language but are more Edo

Culturally, the itsekiris are more Edo than Yoruba, but linguistically and otherwise the itsekiris are more Yoruba than Edo, the itsekiris are more closer to the South Eastern Yoruba groups such as Ilaje, Ijebu and Ikale than they're to other Yoruba groups, may I also note that the itsekiris unlike their Urhobo/Isoko cousins who traces their origin to Bini migrated from various places such as Ijebu, Ilaje, Igala etc but adopted a Bini prince.

In all, Delta as a whole is culturally Edo.