MuttleyLaff:
Great question. Very good question
Hoping you can touch it, as I'll be dropping it like it's hot, the answer is in Exodus 33
Read Exodus 33:8-23 but the verses to watch out for, actually are the Exodus 33:17-23 ones where Exodus 33:23 is the clincher

Exodus 33:23
Then I will take my hand away, and you'll see my back, but my face must not be seen."

What again, is the point of this non-sequitur? Abeggy, park it.

Am I missing something. Have we got serpents running around still or lately you can point out to? I didn't think so either

The Torah said the serpent is cursed more than all animals, domestic and wild.
- until I checked the animal kingdom chart, I used to wonder why and how the serpent got transformed into a snake,
Looking at that chart shows some serious katakata went down and the serpent felt a full wrath of one minute being rubbing shoulder with some at the top, to a next minute, be right down there, disgracefully at the bottom.

The serpent not only was demoted but remember, it had a completely drastic ''makeover'' during its ''degradation ceremony''
What does that ''makeover'' spell?
OK, lending a helping hand to make it simpler and easier to answer, using deductive reasoning or logical deduction, it spells extinction

I am content and so I am not looking and/or wasnt looking to find something not lost
others however are looking or asking as you've just asked,
My brief reply will be, am close 100% sure, you're familiar with the phrase ''the missing link'' and know what it's all about

Next you'll be asking about the fossils of the speaking donkey that talked back to Balaam, to show a donkey could or couldnt make a speech

menesheh:
The post- is the reason why I referred to it as snake

menesheh:
We identify painting by contrasting it with other painting painted by human, we've never seen painting occurring naturally

menesheh:
You are asserting that santa clause is fictional why yahweh is not, you ve never giving evidence and proof that yahweh story is a fact. Both of them bears the same imagery supernatural stories, then you choose to pick one as fact and the other as fiction without presenting evidence and proofs that will differentiate both.

menesheh:
Telling about painting and the painter is argument from ignorance.
You witnessed a phenomenon that seems designed, then decided to posit a designer to cover up the gap will deter you from seeking for other plausible explanation.

menesheh:
If you see sand dune, it looks design but we know that it occurs natural by wind actions

menesheh:
Still waiting for your evidence why yahweh story is a fact while santa is fictional

theAtheist101:
Wrong logic!

theAtheist101:
Are you seriously quoting from the same book am questioning it author(s)?

theAtheist101:
I could have asked how certain are you about the authenticity of the claims made Moses, but you have categorically proved to me that you don't respect logic

theAtheist101:
Stop confusing yourself with English! A serpent is a snake!
You can check your dictionary to confirm that or you can simply read the same verses you replied me with earlier.

theAtheist101:
Nothing demoted nothing!

theAtheist101:
Why do reason illogicaly?

theAtheist101:
How would a snake crawling on the floor make it go extinct?

theAtheist101:
Have you seen a snail before? In fact, most reptiles crawl (elementary biology!)

theAtheist101:
I would still ask you: where is your evidence of a talking snake?

theAtheist101:
Stop being delusional! This way of reasoning is unhealthy

theAtheist101:
You just reminded me how interesting your story book is.

theAtheist101:
To be frank, I loved bible study when I was a kid! It was like Tales by Moonlight, which was/is aired on NTA network service. Our tutor then, who was a lady, with her sweet voice always made my Sundays fun

MuttleyLaff:
Take a pick from these lot
1) Confirmed, the same way, it is believed heads have brains with grey matter in it
2) Well OP said so when he wrote ''Why is it that Adam and Eve did not find it strange that a serpent is talking to them?''
3) Lastly, I confirmed this in accordance with Genesis 3:1-5

Genesis 3:1
The snake was more clever than all the wild animals the LORD God had made.
He asked the woman,
"Did God really say, 'You must never eat the fruit of any tree in the garden'?"

Genesis 3:4
You certainly won't die!" the snake told the woman.

Brown47:
you just said the snake was clever than all animals which the lord has made

Brown47:
but wait! was it not satan who came in the form of a serpent

Brown47:
only a snake mess up:

Brown47:
but all others which are innocent take part in the punishment.

Brown47:
What type of God is this?

MuttleyLaff:
That's me inadvertently using GOD'S WORD® Translation there.
- it is the only translation, out of the many out there, that uses snake for serpent

Good catch, well spotted
As I give a brief explanation, I hope it wont go over heads
Any thing that wants to legally operate on earth needs a body
The demons needed a body, so in Matthew 8:31 or Mark 5:12 begged Jesus for a body, after which upon entering the herd of pigs in Luke 8:33, the pigs couldnt withstand the demons, not even for a moment but a human being previously had them for so long, anyway they rushed into a lake and drowned themselves

Now exactly what happened to Judas in Luke 22:3 and John 13:27 is what happened to the serpent.
- same modus operadi, a body is need to operate

All spirits comply with this rule, even God isnt an exception to this, He too needed a body which is why He approached Mary for her consent
Must say, some spirits do forcibly or illegally occupy bodies

Luke 22:3
- Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve.

John 13:27
- As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him.

Brown47:
I think you still didnt understand what i was trying to point out.

Brown47:
What i was saying is that animals (serpent) dont have thought and conscince of their own to even reach the far end of decieving a human

Brown47:
Was it not satan who maybe transformed or entered into the serpent so as to aproach Eve

Brown47:
That means the serpent is no clever but satan who is in it.
That means its not the serpent who deceive Eve but satan was the one

Brown47:
And still ask your self then, if its satan who deceived Eve why did God punished the serpent

MuttleyLaff:

No, all are guilty
besides the serpent could have done what the herd of pigs did

Not one absolved themselves of any wrongdoing Chief
-it's only you saying they are innocent

Brown47:
only one snake mess up he punished every snake

Brown47:
Eve sinned he punished every human.

Brown47:
How are you sure your not going to rut in your imaginary hell for the sins of others.

Brown47:
Since your god of found of punishing all for the wrong of only one individual.

I respect logic, I admire logic, I am a fan of logic, which all is why I frequently use deductive reasoning or logical deduction and it hasn't and/or doesnt deter me believing the testimony of Moses

The truth here, is you and menesheh are larking about, you both think you're testing the water with just feet only dipped in
but what you both aren't realising, is that, you're swimming towards the deep end, if not already in it.
You've also proven you're whippersnapper which is why and how Exodus 33:23 went straight and totally over your head

Do I really have to break down the difference(s) between the serpent and snake?
Do I have to explain and show the bare facts and basics?
Dont you know that what tricked Eve wasnt a snake but it was serpent (i.e. it was nachash, an upright talking bright shinning creature)
Apart from GOD'S WORD® Translation, show us any other Bible translations, from the many out there, which in Gen 3:1 etcetera use snake for serpent.

Again SMH + facepalm
If from being at the top of the Animal Kingdom chart, to being at the bottom is not demotion, then I dont know what that is called
If from being upright, to crawling on the belly, or if from having arms and legs, to having them ''cut off'' is not demotion, then I dont know what that is called
If nachash (i.e. serpent that talked) got transformed (i.e. ''madeover'') into a snake which couldnt talk or ever talked, then what demotion means, needs to be re-defined

Serpent has never been part of any scientific study
and this is because serpent is not an animal/creature to study in zoology

Have you ever researched the classification of animal before?
Have studied a reptile and/or animal kingdom chart before?
Until now have you ever looked at a picture of a ''Tree of Life'' before?


Apart from not seeing fantasy creatures or animals such as unicorns, mermaids, ''iwin'', dragons, gremlins, etcetera do you see serpent in any reptile and/or animal kingdom chart similar to this at all? Why?
It's a no-brainer, its simply because the moment the serpent got transformed into a snake, it stopped existing anymore as serpent

I dont know anything about a talking ''snake'' and neither know anything about Adam & Eve eating a forbidden ''apple''
I think you're catching the drift (i.e. serpent is not snake just as the fruit isn't an apple)

I am not being delusional,
you asked if I've found the fossil so what is unhealthy in admitting that I am not looking for fossils, am not looking for something not lost
I take it you impressively and definitely arent among the looking for ''missing link'' bandwagon then

What stole your love of the book
and/or robbed you of the love of bible study, now that you're grown?

theAtheist101:
Really? Is this your post logical to you? Making claims you can not substantiate

theAtheist101:
Which type of education did you get?

theAtheist101:
Give a direct answer and stop beating around the bush

theAtheist101:
how did Moses know of the events that happened long before he was born?

theAtheist101:
Then do, for satan sake!

theAtheist101:
You started rambling and ended without answering the question.
You see again wrong logic! At the rate you are going, you would write your own bible and a dictionary

theAtheist101:
What is the dictionary definition of a serpent?

theAtheist101:
And do respond with a direct answer instead of rambling.

theAtheist101:
Prove this demotion or shut up!

theAtheist101:
As in you're boring me! I thought winner01 was the worst until you. This guy, "where you see your own serpent" (maybe you would understand the pidgin English instead)? You can't just claim an animal stopped existing without showing its fossils. Your serpent is in the same class as unicorns and dragons -- just fantasies! So, again I ask prove that your serpent once existed.

theAtheist101:
Which nonsense drift? Am interchanging the words because they mean the same thing

theAtheist101:
I feel pity for the educational systems that molded your minded. Make claims you can not substantiate is a crime against logic

theAtheist101:
Common sense!

MuttleyLaff:
Yes, really. As logical as logical can be. Moses' testimony is evidence enough, take it or leave it

Variety of quantitative and qualitative

Without beating about the bush, you previously was given a direct answer, when I mentioned that, the answer is in Exodus 33 and particularly at Exodus 33:23
I think it was 2 or 3 lines answer. How much more direct can that be?

There is no shame in admitting you couldnt get your head round the meaning of ''you'll see my back'', ''my face must not be seen'' and ''Please, let me see Your glory''

''Please, let me see Your glory'' by the way, incidentally was the original request made by Moses, which lead to the God ''back'' and ''face'' concession.

Am beginning to suspect, you never, as advised, read Exodus 33:8-23, pay attention to Exodus 33:17-23 and watch out for the clincher at Exodus 33:23?

Exodus 33:23
Then I will take my hand away, and you'll see my back, but my face must not be seen."

Compose yourself, take it easy my friend

Most people enjoy finding out things by themselves, but certain others just prefer to be spoon-fed

I dont give a foxtrot uniform charlie kilo over what the dictionary definition of a serpent is, as from a biblical viewpoint, a serpent became a snake and this isnt vice versa

By the way, here is a simple and good serpent or snake litmus test.
When next you find the creature slithering in your balcony at night, shout out Serpent! Serpent!!
No one is going to correct you or teach you to shout it by its actual name (i.e. which is snake, snake) for the calvary to come running to help
or for immediate and express aid to turn up

Done in the above response

Extra! Extra! Read all about it! It's all in Genesis 3:14

Genesis 3:14
The LORD God told the Shining One,
"Because you have done this, you are more cursed than all the livestock, and more than all the earth's animals,
You'll crawl on your belly and eat dust as long as you live.

Logic and common sense, both know that, whatever the serpent was, it isn't around anymore,
so quit mouthing off and stop asking me to go on a wild goose chase, going on about fossils and all, to prove that the serpent once existed

Suit yourself

Save your breath, I don’t care what you feel pity for. Save it for yourself, ideally for your wretched soul.

Bravo!