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Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by Nobody: 11:32pm On Aug 16, 2015
I joined NL recently and I've been seeing some people saying Lagos is a no man's land, does it mean that Abuja is also a no man's land cause it had indigenes before ibb transferred there

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by DaBullIT(m): 11:34pm On Aug 16, 2015
;lolllll
Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by hakeem4(m): 11:34pm On Aug 16, 2015
Abeg there's nothing like no man's land joor
Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 12:33am On Aug 17, 2015
Igbos are rodents infesting any region or location they migrate too with strife and bitterness. They will soon come and also tell us how abuja wont survive without them and how they built the city from scratch cos the indegenes were lazy

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by Flyoruboy(m): 12:42am On Aug 17, 2015
Yes it is, to the igboman that it is cheesy. I have actually heard one of them make such remark; this was like 4yrs ago. Interesting thing is that they are the only ethnic group I am aware of that call other peoples' land "no man's land".

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by kenny987(f): 12:49am On Aug 17, 2015
vicadex07:
Igbos are rodents infesting any region or location they migrate too with strife and bitterness. They will soon come and also tell us how abuja wont survive without them and how they built the city from scratch cos the indegenes were lazy

Just a simple question and you already throw abuses. Infesting regions with strife and bitterness? Rodents? This is the result of hearing and parroting one thing too many times, it assumes the appearance of truth but if you are asked to come up with justification for calling your people such names or claiming that they cause strife and bitterness you will come up empty. There will be no substance to whatever you try to bring up as your proof. Take time out and think...decide whether being insulting especially without good cause is a worthwhile venture to embark upon.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by dayo23(f): 12:52am On Aug 17, 2015
Pussymonster:
I joined NL recently and I've been seeing some people saying Lagos is a no man's land, does it mean that Abuja is also a no man's land cause it had indigenes before ibb transferred there
Abuja is my land OP, so back off
Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 12:56am On Aug 17, 2015
This sums it up.

There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behaviour that can offend; by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness"
.............Chinua Achebe.

kenny987:


Just a simple question and you already throw abuses. Infesting regions with strife and bitterness? Rodents? This is the result of hearing and parroting one thing too many times, it assumes the appearance of truth but if you are asked to come up with justification for calling your people such names or claiming that they cause strife and bitterness you will come up empty. There will be no substance to whatever you try to bring up as your proof. Take time out and think...decide whether being insulting especially without good cause is a worthwhile venture to embark upon.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by Nobody: 1:11am On Aug 17, 2015
u want make gbagyi pple kill all the Igbos within seconds op stop oh
Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by kenny987(f): 1:12am On Aug 17, 2015
vicadex07:



Just whom do u expect the Igbos to show humility to? You can only expect that when you give them lands and businesses free of charge or they carry out their activities tax-free. However, since that is not the case and they as well as everyone else are guaranteed under law the freedom to move and trade wherever they deem fit and as citizens of Nigeria, then expecting humility, quietness or non-exhibitionism is an absolute waste of time. Provided he breaks no law wherever he resides then you still have no justification for calling them rodents that cause u bitterness and strife. You see, I told you you'd come up empty. Chinua's statement is an observation of fact and is not in anyway an indictment or pronouncement of wrongdoing. You or any other person may be offended but it is the nature of some and there's nothing u can do about it.

Isn't it such a shame? If it is in the nature of one to be confident, exhibit his prowess at whatever he does and so on, how is it an issue? Is it a crime? Criminals abound and cut across all tribes and races so it is not peculiar to one. Fact is, curse or say all u want, it is only an exercise in futility for you and doesn't affect the Igbo man in any way. I only called your attention because it was just completely unprovoked, out of place and uncivilized. Live and let live.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 1:18am On Aug 17, 2015
That quote was made by chinua achebe an Igboman, not me
kenny987:


Just whom do u expect the Igbos to show humility to? You can only expect that when you give them lands and businesses free of charge or they carry out their activities tax-free. However, since that is not the case and they as well as everyone else are guaranteed under law the freedom to move and trade wherever they deem fit and as citizens of Nigeria, then expecting humility, quietness or non-exhibitionism is an absolute waste of time. Provided he breaks no law wherever he resides then you still have no justification for calling them rodents that cause u bitterness and strife. You see, I told you you'd come up empty.

Isn't it such a shame? If it is in the nature of one to be confident, exhibit his prowess at whatever he does and so on, how is it an issue? Is it a crime? Criminals abound and cut across all tribes and races so it is not peculiar to one.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by IGBOSON1: 1:21am On Aug 17, 2015
vicadex07:
Igbos are rodents infesting any region or location they migrate too with strife and bitterness. They will soon come and also tell us how abuja wont survive without them and how they built the city from scratch cos the indegenes were lazy

^^^Look who's talking! undecided

Bitterness!?.....You own the copyright for that mate! While your friends (you know who wink) own the one for strife!

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by Habakus: 1:22am On Aug 17, 2015
Pussymonster:
I joined NL recently and I've been seeing some people saying Lagos is a no man's land, does it mean that Abuja is also a no man's land cause it had indigenes before ibb transferred there
You joined Nairaland recently,and here you are opening this kind of thread. Smh..
Tribalism is in your blood.
Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by kenny987(f): 1:25am On Aug 17, 2015
vicadex07:
That quote was made by chinua achebe an Igboman, not me

I modified my quote. You may go through it again if you like. However, whether it is made by an Igbo man or anyone else, it is a statement of fact and nothing else. If I remember correctly, that statement is followed by the positive traits of the Igbo. Why didn't u also include that? The character and nature of a people is a whole package and provided they break no laws and are law abiding citizens, there is no excuse for calling them names. Your own people have their own character flaws and that does not affect whom they are either. It is necessary to understand certain statements before u use them...just giving u a little friendly advice, it is not a profitable venture to insult people who have done nothing other than be themselves so live and let live.
Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 1:26am On Aug 17, 2015
To be notoriously arrogant and insultive with disregards for human feelings spawns jealousy and hatred which degenerates into bitter enmity. Can a tenant come into your fathers house and poke fun at his daughters or his building without him taking offense even though he has commited no crime. There is what we all know as common sense and morality. Something doesnt have to be illegal before it is being frowned upon and proved to be wrong morally
kenny987:


Just whom do u expect the Igbos to show humility to? You can only expect that when you give them lands and businesses free of charge or they carry out their activities tax-free. However, since that is not the case and they as well as everyone else are guaranteed under law the freedom to move and trade wherever they deem fit and as citizens of Nigeria, then expecting humility, quietness or non-exhibitionism is an absolute waste of time. Provided he breaks no law wherever he resides then you still have no justification for calling them rodents that cause u bitterness and strife. You see, I told you you'd come up empty. Chinua's statement is an observation of fact and is not in anyway an indictment or pronouncement of wrongdoing. You or any other person may be offended but it is the nature of some and there's nothing u can do about it.

Isn't it such a shame? If it is in the nature of one to be confident, exhibit his prowess at whatever he does and so on, how is it an issue? Is it a crime? Criminals abound and cut across all tribes and races so it is not peculiar to one. Fact is, curse or say all u want, it is only an exercise in futility for you and doesn't affect the Igbo man in any way. I only called your attention because it was just completely unprovoked, out of place and uncivilized. Live and let live.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by Nobody: 1:28am On Aug 17, 2015
SomebodyLovesMe:

While I agree that this is a very sensitive issue, it must be said that Igbo people are constantly shooting themselves in the foot. They do not tell themselves the truth. You seem reasonable enough, but most other Igbos don't.

I watched in amazement in the months leading up to the last elections, how Igbos openly showed and boasted about their 'mass' lack of support for Buhari. They are the only tribe in Nigeria that made so much noise and made it clear that their decision at the polls would be based purely on tribe. How many Yorubas or Hausas did you hear boasting or making threats? Wisdom should tell you that since there is a chance that Buhari might win, you should not burn bridges. You would notice that Hausas never openly opposed GEJ, even though we all know where their loyalties lay.

Unfortunately, most (not all) Igbos are not politically sophisticated. Political sophistication means ensuring that you do not create permanent enemies for yourselves, by being tactful and strategic in your political moves and utterances. e.g. how can you go to another man's land and claim that it's no man's land? That is the height of political stupidity, as such comments simply attract negative reactions and negative attention. I can't think of any other tribe in Nigeria that would be so unwise as to say such things.

There is a quote that says: In politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies , but there are permanent interests. Unfortunately, Igbos have created permanent enemies for themselves through their lack of diplomacy, and that is why things are the way they are.

A lie may travel for a thousand miles, but it takes just one step of truth to catch up with it. ..

How are 'Igbo people constantly shooting themselves in the foot?'
When was it, that the Igbos are the only tribe in Nigeria that made so much noise and made it clear that their decision at the polls would be based purely on tribe?
Where and when did the Igbos boast or made threats during the last elections? 
How are the Igbos burning bridges?

How have Igbos created permanent enemies for themselves through their lack of diplomacy? Can you mention the Igbos involved?

Which media did Igbos use to make noise, stating that their votes in the polls would be based purely on tribe - Punch, PremiumTimes, Leadership, Osundefender, TheNation, LindaIkeji, TVC SaharaReporters or which one

How dare you falsely state that Hausas never openly opposed GEJ. 

Haba! What sort of lies are these? It is only people with dead consciences that fabricate wicked lies and distort history to achieve some undue advantages over others which are bound to boomerang. This is how these unrepentant hypocrites and treasury looters want us to continue in this false union.

Where is your verifiable proof for your assertions? Something is not factually true just because you said wrote it. What you just stated are simply your biased opinion. But it doesn't make them facts. 


Have a look at some past news via these links where Yorubas made so much noise in the media before 2015 general elections:

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2013/03/demurens-sack-fasehun-others-cry-yoruba-marginalisation/

http://thestreetjournal.org/2013/03/yorubas-in-europe-decry-jonathans-marginalization-of-the-south-west/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/02/now-were-the-marginalised-yoruba-elders/

http://www.naij.com/334439-jonathans-attempt-to-persuade-yoruba-too-late-afenifere.html

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/tunde-fagbenle/ugly-signs-of-yoruba-marginalisation.html

http://ketekete.com/why-yoruba-will-never-support-goodluck-jonathan-in-2015/

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/tambuwal-elected-house-of-representatives-speaker/92761/

https://ogala./2011/06/06/aminu-tambuwal-elected-speaker-against-pdps-wish/

The reasoning of the bigot who assembled the lies above is not only terrible but despicable. 
Many Yorubas are noise makers and become rattled when confronted with the truth. Many a time you do not know what  Yorubas stand for. 

What do you call 'political sophistication'? Peddling lies and propaganda in every available media in order to tarnish and paint other people black so as to make some undue political gains that are bound to boomerang? 

[b]It's basically in Yorubaland that a man like Tinubu who embezzled Lagos State would call the shots and Yorubas would still sheepishly prostrate before him and follow him and his candidate blindly. Many Yorubas sheepishly follow criminals like they have no sense.

As big as Rochas Okorocha is, he was not sure of winning a second term as a governor of Imo State because his people were not satisfied with him. In Ebonyi State, the governor's candidates failed woefully. That's the Igbos for you. Nobody can hold Igbos down for too long; they will rise up against such political leader.
It's in Yoruba land that one person would perpetually control the people's resources and they will sheepishly follow him. If it were in the South East, Akinwunmi Ambode will deny Tinubu publicly to stand a chance of winning the gubernatorial election just like Ikpeazu, Abia State PDP candidate, denied TA Orji to win some votes.

Igbo people believe no man was born to perpetually lord it over them.  

Observe that most of the people talked carelessly if not stupidly as regards 2015 elections, both in the ruling party and the opposition were Yorubas. Many  took things overboard,  threatening fire and brimstone - from Obj, Tinubu, Okupe, FFK, Lai Muhammed, Fayose, Fashola etc.

Even Yoruba people who cannot handle their families and fence-climbing thugs with no respect for the law or law enforcement called president GEJ unprintable names.

These unrepentant thieves, prostitutes and murderers of yesterday have used their giant loots to attempt to grow legitimacy and to corner the "highest-bidder-gains-it -all" political process.
They seem to feel they are born kings and queens and that attention is owed them. They do not consider anyone else's nature, but bulldoze over other people with self-righteous arrogance and supposed 'sophistication'.

For the records, Igbos supported Tinubu, and Fashola as governors of Lagos State for 16 years! That was why an Igbo man, Ben Akabueze, has been a major cabinet member in Lagos for both Tinubu and Fashola.[/b]

Facts are sacred...
Yoruba have proven beyond reasonable doubt to be chief tribalists in Nigeria and can NEVER vote anybody outside their tribe in elections. Otherwise can you compare Obasanjo’s 4 years and Jonathan's 4 years Yet Yorubas supported Obasanjo for 2nd term notwithstanding Buhari was contesting in 2003.

Yoruba has been voting along tribal line since independence (facts are sacred). Quit denigrating other tribes especially Igbos to cover your lies and ethnic bias.
The South-West zone had 14,296,163 registered voters, which represented 19.44% of the total number of voters nationwide. In terms of national electoral strength, the zone was number 2. Taking into account the electoral behaviour of the South-West since independence, the zone has proven itself, without exception, of incapable of voting anyone other than its own

In the 1st Republic, it voted mainly Action Group in favour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo with about 69% voters’ turnout.

In the 2nd Republic, it voted 78.75% of its total votes cast for UPN in favour of Chief Awolowo, with 70% voters’ turnout. 

In the June 12, 1993 presidential election, the pattern was repeated more or less the same, except that the total percentage of SDP’s votes in favour of Chief MKO Abiola rose up to 84.5% in the zone. 

In the 1999 presidential election, mainly because the only two candidates for the presidency were both from the South-West, the zone’s voters’ turnout was abysmally low (48.09%) with about 68% of the votes cast to APP in favour of Chief Olu Falaye. 2003 also recorded poor voters’ turnout with 71% of votes cast for Obasanjo’s PDP. 

In 2011, with no South-Western candidate fielded by any of the major parties, the South-West voted PDP when a functional alliance with the CPC failed to field in Sen. Bola Ahmed Tinubu or his nominee. Besides, with the vicious experience of Alliance for Democracy in 2003 when the PDP Federal Government uprooted AD government in five states of the zone, the South-West could not afford to risk having an opposition PDP government at the Federal level again; certainly not after the hard pains and toils of forming the APC. It is therefore existential for the South-West to vote APC at the presidential election.

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and-why-pdp-will-lose


For many decades now, how did Hausa-Fulani build bridges with the frequent killings and destruction of lives, properties and places of Christian worships, not to mention the Boko-Haram insurgents who are not only threatening the existence of the country but maim and kill peasants farmers and villagers on a regular basis? But they now have the presidency while the Yorubas vice-presidency! What a misnomer!

Almost throughout GEJ regime Hausa-Fulanis and some traitors in the South West were preaching hate messages in the North and in the South West.
These unrepentant prophets of doom devised every crook tactics (falsehood, media propaganda, threats, sponsored Boko-Haram insurgency still rearing its ugly head, blood shed etc.) and they still believe that Nigeria can subsist.

And what would you say of the North where Jonathan carried out most of his developmental projects at the expense of his Ijaw people and yet the greedy tribalists colluded with Yorubas and voted against him? Or the Yorubas who voted against Jonathan because Buhari's vice, Osinbajo, is a Yoruba man?
The last time I checked Jonathan is not an Igbo man. Many Igbos voted voted for Jonathan because treachery and betrayal is not in their DNA unlike the Yorubas and their co-travellers.
Many disgruntled Yorubas called GEJ many unprintable news - clueless, weak, visionless and impotent - online and offline simply because he is not from the born-to-rule tribes. There cannot be peace in a country where some people regard others as second-class citizens even in their own fathers' land that's feeding the country.

Many of these tribalists and hypocrites were in government and nothing worked. They fleeced our commonwealth and there was no transparency. Now these sets of hypocrites have begun another round of propaganda and deceit against Igbos - their nightmares!.

If Yorubas are accommodating and friendly, why have Yorubas persistently bred and used miscreants to distort money and distrupt the businesses of law-abiding citizens in Lagos? Why would any Yoruba person dare utter such word like 'accommodating' other people in Lagos - a city developed with crude oil money and by the communal efforts of every tribe in Nigeria for close to a century; as if Yorubas feed other people and give out lands for free? 

If Yorubas didn't want any Igbo man to own a part of their land, why did they sell their lands to them in the first place? Why should thecYoruba man collect over N300 million from an Igbo man just to sell a plot of land to him in Ikoyi; collect taxes and other tenement rates from Igbo man and yet, they will not want him to claim rights of a landlord? Did any Igbo man stop you from buying properties, lands and other assets in Igboland and laying claims as a landlord? 
When did Orji Uzor Kalu's outburst that Lagos is a no man's land represent the opinion of over 70 million Ndigbo. Yorubas are aborigines in Lagos state. But if they decide to sell their fathers' properties to an Igbo man and collect his hard earned money and come back later to trespass, they should be jailed! Did anybody compel Yorubas to sell Igbos lands? Enough of this ethnic bigotry.

Asiwaju conducted census in Lagos state and told us that the Igbos are 45% of Lagos population, Yorubas are 47% and others make up the other number.
The Igbos are not daft or cowards to be threatened to vote for a particular candidate in Lagos 2015 gubernatorial election. It is so pathetic for Oba Rilwanu Akiolu to do so!

Between the Igbos and Yorubas, which of them constantly display insensitivity, crass disrespect, mindlessness arrogance and continued to insult the dignity and sensibility of other people using their numerous media outfits to heat up the polity, creating enmity and problems in the country and still foolishly think they are the 'sophisticated' tribe? The Emir of Kano, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi had already exposed such wicked lies in his paper titled 'YORUBAS ARE THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA'.

Igbo people are no betrayers and don't harbour traitors, chronic, perennial, perpetual, pathological liars! 

Igbos have been killed in the North since 1940s, long before independence. They have continued to be killed in the North up till present. Nzeogwu's coup only provided a pretext for the North supported by the treacherous West to embark upon their favorite past time. Ojukwu defended Igbos from ethnic cleansing. Igbos survived the war because they are very resilient.

Yorubas and their co-travellers accuse Igbos of being greedy. That Igbo's love for money is insatiable, while every other Nigerian groups hate money! Abacha, Gowon, Obj, IBB, Danjuma, Abiola, etc, heartless men who looted the Nigerian treasury dry, is any of them Igbo?

If there is any one tribe in the world that values and protects the stranger that tribe is Igbo. Igbos permeate almost every nook and cranny of the country, peacefully and immensely contributing their quota to the economic advancement of the locals and the country at large. I am yet to read Igbos on rampage causing havoc and fighting their 'host'. Igbos network with their 'host', build business empires and some of them even get married to their 'host', all for peaceful co-existence and building bridges. Is that tantamount to stupidity, creating permanent enemies,  preaching hate, not being tactful   and not building bridges?

Is there any tribe that exhibits such 'Nigerianess' than the Igbos? Can the greedy tribalists boast of this? NO!


But what do the Igbos get in return for this patriotic display of One Nigeria - threats and destruction of their lives and properties by the so called 'host'? Igbos are being harassed, molested and their legal businesses distrupted on regular basis by the 'host' and its government. 

Oba Rilwanu Akiolu of Lagos even went as far as threatening to drown Igbos in the Lagoon if they did not vote for his candidate in the last 2015 election. And a good number of Yorubas hailed and supported their Oba for the bold step - Dr Ariyo, Kunle Afolayan etc.!


YORUBA LEADERS SOWED THE SEED OF TRIBALISM AND RUINED NIGERIAN ECONOMY
Many of the achievements of the Yoruba tribe is largely due to the fact that they have been unjustly favoured by the lopsided arrangement in the polity. That's why a great number of Yorubas would prefer the status quo to remain. A number of Yorubas have used the unjust system to their advantage, looting the treasury with reckless abandon. Yoruba leaders wrecked this country and brought her to the present miserable state! 

When a couple of distinguished past nationals like Nnamidi Azikiwe did their best to promote national patriotism even to the disadvantages of their own people, the likes Obafemi Awolowo used their positions to entrench hatred, bitterness, tribalism, nepotism and religious bias in the polity for their selfish gains. The latter are still being held in high esteem by their tribesmen, and they even use any means to shove it down the throats of other people.

Informed people are not deceived by Yoruba usual shouting, crying, weeping, wailing, yelling, cursing and making much noise on every available media. This a tribe that is after all well known for being loose cannons. Uncouth, uncivilised and disrespectful set of people who made a career out of abuse and slurs.
If there is any southern tribe that have gained much from this fraudulent union, it is the Yoruba tribe! 
Yoruba tribe have only flourished at the expense of others courtesy of the unjust system! 

In saner climes many Yoruba leaders should have been behind bars spending the rest of their miserable lives for the great looting of our commonwealth.

Inspite of the crass looting of the treasury by many Yorubas, Yoruba land still remains one of the illiteracy and poverty stricken regions in Nigeria! Yoruba achievements have not in any way given her people a better welfare than the Igbos.
Whichever way the loudmouthed tribalists turn, one is certain - they must be made to eat their words! 

The bottom line remains that guilty conscience is the problem of many Yorubas which has practically beclouded their sense of judgement. They taunt the Igbo with images of the Biafran war. They brag to these victims of their genocidal exploits in the war; how Adekunle murdered innocent youths in their prime and how their god Awolowo used starvation policies to create kwashiorkor-ridden children. And they think these things don't irk the common Igbo youth. 

The Igbos have done much and achieved much for themselves and Nigeria. Whatever negative impression you get from any quarter is as result of envy - the pull-him-down syndrome. But that has not deterred Igbos from waxing stronger and excelling in almost every socio-economic index.

In the light of this, it is very unjust to accuse Igbos of not being tactful and strategic or not building bridges just because they seek a legal way of determining their destiny. Stating that Igbos are not building bridges or not reasonable is all hogwash and amounts to nothingness. 

'One Nigeria' seems to be just for self benefit - anybody or tribe who is benefiting from it, be it in civil service, politics and business through monopoly, backed by evil structures put in place by past leaders will not agree that Nigeria should be restructured or otherwise. So many lives have been sacrificed and are still being sacrificed to keep Nigeria one at the expense of some people. Rather than challenge the gross inequality and injustice (quota system, false census figure, lopsided local government areas) in thepolity these tribalists still consider it right to fabricate and spread malicious messages to score political points that are bound to boomerang. 

Igbos may go through pains in the beginning, but majority are resolute fighters and never quitters. They are very confident of overcoming like they did after the Biafran war. 

Whatever Igbos may be going through now is part of the struggle. Freedom isn't given, it's taken. Definitely,  there is no pain, no gain.

The typical Igbo man is civil and values the sanctity of life.  

No matter how hard these evil men try to cover up and silence the truth; truth is stubborn and she cannot be drowned. She is like a pack of straws that are held together and pinned down by a strong hand at the bottom of a river so that she should not be seen or heard. Yet one day, in the fullness of time, that strong hand that seeks to suppress her forever shall wither and dry up. At that point Lady Truth will happily float to the top of the water where she will be seen and heard by all. It is in the same way that one day, in the fullness of time, the pernicious and perfidious verdict...that the powers that be have claimed....will be exposed for what they are.
Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 1:32am On Aug 17, 2015
This was written by your blooda.

"There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behaviour that can offend; by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness"
.............Chinua Achebe.

IGBOSON1:


^^^Look who's talking! undecided

Bitterness!?.....You own the copyright for that mate! While your friends (you know who wink) own the one for strife!

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by kenny987(f): 1:34am On Aug 17, 2015
vicadex07:
To be notoriously arrogant and insultive with disregards for human feelings spawns jealousy and hatred which degenerates into bitter enmity. Can a tenant come into your fathers house and poke fun at his daughters or his building without him taking offense even though he has commited no crime. There is what we all know as common sense and morality. Something doesnt have to be illegal before it is being frowned upon and proved to be wrong morally

That is where you have gotten it wrong, calling or seeing them as tenants or in this case settlers/visitors. While they may not claim ancestral roots to whatever region outside Igbo land, he is a bonafide citizen of Nigeria. He assimilates and mixes with the people but he will not roll over and play dead. He pays his way through same as everyone else so while there may be friction here and there, what exactly justifies the hatred and jealousy on the part of the hosts as you have said? Should the Igbo remain the way he came? He works hard so he must grow and expand. He will also protect the result of his sweat and the moment he feels threatened he will naturally react, especially when u try to forcibly convert what is his.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by Nobody: 1:42am On Aug 17, 2015
Pussymonster:
I joined NL recently and I've been seeing some people saying Lagos is a no man's land, does it mean that Abuja is also a no man's land cause it had indigenes before ibb transferred there
Abuja is part of one Nigeria.
Just like Lagos. grin grin

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 1:47am On Aug 17, 2015
Have you seen any other ethnicity apart from the igbo openly denigrating, insulting and boasting about just anything to their host community? Will an hausa man or yorubaman goto enugu and insult their people or monarchy without any backlash. This is Africa and we all have respectable values and cultures. In Yorubaland we respect our elders and revere our royalty. Yes we are all citizens of the same country but we are also indegenous to diffrent ethnic groups.
kenny987:


That is where you have gotten it wrong, calling or seeing them as tenants or in this case settlers/visitors. While they may not claim ancestral roots to whatever region outside Igbo land, he is a bonafide citizen of Nigeria. He assimilates and mixes with the people but he will not roll over and play dead. He pays his way through same as everyone else so while there may be friction here and there, what exactly justifies the hatred and jealousy on the part of the hosts as you have said? Should the Igbo remain the way he came? He works hard so he must grow and expand. He will also protect the result of his sweat and the moment he feels threatened he will naturally react, especially when u try to forcibly convert what is his.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by nduchucks: 1:48am On Aug 17, 2015
Pussymonster:
I joined NL recently and I've been seeing some people saying Lagos is a no man's land, does it mean that Abuja is also a no man's land cause it had indigenes before ibb transferred there

Only the ignorant is unaware of the fact that the Gwaris own Abuja and will reclaim that land intoto soon enough.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by kenny987(f): 2:03am On Aug 17, 2015
vicadex07:
Have you seen any other ethnicity apart from the igbo openly denigrating, insulting and boasting about just anything to their host community? Will an hausa man or yorubaman goto enugu and insult their people or monarchy without any backlash. This is Africa and we all have respectable values and cultures. In Yorubaland we respect our elders and revere our royalty. Yes we are all citizens of the same country but we are also indegenous to diffrent ethnic groups.

Like I said, the Igbo will react if you threaten what is his whether life or property. Until Rilwan Akiolu did the lagoon threat crap did any Igbo person in any part of the SW denigrate any seat of authority? If any check well, there was provocation. He may not dobale or prostrate but he will not interfere in your activity either. However when u threaten him he will get in your face and let you have it. U will agree with me that they are peaceful people and do not go about killing or forcibly taking over properties unlike what Northerners do sometimes.

As you rightly said we come from different ethnic groups and we must learn to understand our differences. The Igbo culture is more inclusive and more of a confederation. Different families and units are autonomous unto themselves with representatives up to the Igwe's council. Power is not unilaterally reposed in one person and units and chiefs must be in agreement before decisions are taken. That is the Igbo man's culture and reality. He is already used to some level of authority and ability to take decisions and act for himself and his immediate unit/clan up to a certain level. That naturally confers some arrogance, if you will, on him. That is why I preach tolerance and understanding, cos if u attempt to threaten or cow him in any way, he will not wait for the approval of the Igwe or Oba to act. The Igbos respect their elders but cannot be dictated to. There must be a consensus to arrive at any major point.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 2:07am On Aug 17, 2015
What your'e saying in essence is that the igbo has a peculiar weakness which should be overlooked
kenny987:


Like I said, the Igbo will react if you threaten what his his whether life or property. Until Rilwan Akiolu did the lagoon threat crap did any Igbo person in any part of the SW denigrate any seat of authority? If any check well, there was provocation. He may not dobale or prostrate but he will not interfere in your activity either. However when u threaten him he will get in your face and let you have it. U will agree with me that they are peaceful people and do not go about killing or forcibly taking over properties unlike what Northerners do sometimes.

As you rightly said we come from different ethnic groups and we must learn to understand our differences. The Igbo culture is more inclusive and more of a confederation. Different families and units are autonomous unto themselves with representatives up to the Igwe's council. Power is not unilaterally reposed in one person and units and chiefs must be in agreement before decisions are taken. That is the Igbo man's culture and reality. He is already used to some level of authority and ability to take decisions and act for himself and his immediate unit/clan up to a certain level. That naturally confers some arrogance, if you will, on him. That is why I preach tolerance and understanding, cos if u attempt to threaten or cow him in any way, he will not wait for the approval of the Igwe or Oba to act. The Igbos respect their elders but cannot be dictated to. There must be a consensus to arrive at any major point.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by kenny987(f): 2:18am On Aug 17, 2015
vicadex07:
What your'e saying in essence is that the igbo has a peculiar weakness which should be overlooked

Nope, it is no weakness to be able to take an initiative, act on it and stand by your actions without waiting for someone to spoon-feed u and give u the go-ahead to breathe! That is why ur people allow bitterness, anger, distrust and negative emotions because the Igbos are go-getters, u cannot do the same, they come to your place and excel and then u begin to have issues. Again it is in their nature to travel and spread out which is no weakness either. That he believes respect is reciprocal and in fact earned rather than confer god-like status on a person with unconditional reverence is also not a weakness.

I tried to explain to you what the Igbo has as his culture and all you did was attempt to reduce it to a weakness. Naturally I ask you, what makes you think you are more superior to another so that u regard his culture as a 'weakness' or fault? Other than accident of birth to a Yoruba family what makes u any better? You could just have well been Igbo or even from any other African tribe! One would expect that you would understand the differences and see the need for one to accommodate the other and vice-versa but no, your default setting is to denigrate that which you can't understand or attain. That is what makes u people call them names and express unfounded anger. It is pointless really.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by azzima(m): 2:33am On Aug 17, 2015
This is AFRICA,with its various cultures and traditions like no other place. It's traditions are so unique that you can go to a town and move just 20 mins to another town and you will experience a mode of speaking ,dressing and food from the previous town. Hence every town has its indigenous people and culture regardless of location so its people and culture MUST be respected . Whoever calls another man's land a no man's land, is obviously a BASTARD and land grabber who is not proud of his own HERITAGE. END OF STORY!!!

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 2:33am On Aug 17, 2015
That is not what chinua achebe called it. Stop twisting words and replying me with leghty thesis.
Noisy exhibitionism means unhealthy pride and arrogance. It is a human weakness and its morally wrong. He also stated that such behaviour can "offend". Such igbotic attitude is irritating and negative hence the backlash it attracts to itsefl nationwide. This assertion of mine is the true state of this or else you no longer agree with chinua achebes statement which you have previously agreed to be factual. I implore you yet again, stop twisting words in your postulations

"There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behaviour that can offend; by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness"
.............Chinua Achebe.
kenny987:


Nope, it is no weakness to be able to take an initiative, act on it and stand by your actions without waiting for someone to spoon-feed u and give u the go-ahead to breathe! That is why ur people allow bitterness, anger, distrust and negative emotions because the Igbos are go-getters, u cannot do the same, they come to your place and excel and then u begin to have issues. Again it is in their nature to travel and spread out which is no weakness either. That he believes respect is reciprocal and in fact earned rather than confer god-like status on a person with unconditional reverence is also not a weakness.

I tried to explain to you what the Igbo has as his culture and all you did was attempt to reduce it to a weakness. Naturally I ask you, what makes you think you are more superior to another? So that his culture is a 'weakness' or fault? One would expect that you would understand the differences and see the need for one to accommodate the other and vice-versa but no, your default setting is to denigrate that which you can't understand or attain. That is what makes u people call them names and express unfounded anger. It is pointless really.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by vicadex07(m): 2:36am On Aug 17, 2015
May God bless you my brother. Kenny987 (I presume you're from benin abi?) see this.
azzima:
This is AFRICA,with its various cultures and traditions like no other place. It's traditions are so unique that you can go to a town and move just 20 mins to another town and you will experience a mode of speaking ,dressing and food from the previous town. Hence every town has its indigenous people and culture regardless of location so its people and culture MUST be respected . Whoever calls another man's land a no man's land, is obviously a BASTARD and land grabber who is not proud of his own HERITAGE. END OF STORY!!!
Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by azzima(m): 2:41am On Aug 17, 2015
vicadex07:
Igbos are rodents infesting any region or location they migrate too with strife and bitterness. They will soon come and also tell us how abuja wont survive without them and how they built the city from scratch cos the indegenes were lazy
I keep asking myself,how come they are the only tribe that is fighting the law on indigineship. How can an Igbo man claim he is from Ondo State just because he was born in Ondo State?I have NEVER come across ANY other tribe that fights to claim another state. EVEN an ONDO man though can claim to be a lagosian because he was born in Lagos but he will quickly PROUDLY tell you that he is from Ondo Sharp with regal.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by azzima(m): 2:48am On Aug 17, 2015
xtrorse:


A lie may travel for a thousand miles, but it takes just one step of truth to catch up with it. ..

How are 'Igbo people constantly shooting themselves in the foot?'
When was it, that the Igbos are the only tribe in Nigeria that made so much noise and made it clear that their decision at the polls would be based purely on tribe?
Where and when did the Igbos boast or made threats during the last elections? 
How are the Igbos burning bridges?

How have Igbos created permanent enemies for themselves through their lack of diplomacy? Can you mention the Igbos involved?

Which media did Igbos use to make noise, stating that their votes in the polls would be based purely on tribe - Punch, PremiumTimes, Leadership, Osundefender, TheNation, LindaIkeji, TVC SaharaReporters or which one

How dare you falsely state that Hausas never openly opposed GEJ. 

Haba! What sort of lies are these? It is only people with dead consciences that fabricate wicked lies and distort history to achieve some undue advantages over others which are bound to boomerang. This is how these unrepentant hypocrites and treasury looters want us to continue in this false union.

Where is your verifiable proof for your assertions? Something is not factually true just because you said wrote it. What you just stated are simply your biased opinion. But it doesn't make them facts. 


Have a look at some past news via these links where Yorubas made so much noise in the media before 2015 general elections:

http://dailyindependentnig.com/2013/03/demurens-sack-fasehun-others-cry-yoruba-marginalisation/

http://thestreetjournal.org/2013/03/yorubas-in-europe-decry-jonathans-marginalization-of-the-south-west/

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/02/now-were-the-marginalised-yoruba-elders/

http://www.naij.com/334439-jonathans-attempt-to-persuade-yoruba-too-late-afenifere.html

http://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/tunde-fagbenle/ugly-signs-of-yoruba-marginalisation.html

http://ketekete.com/why-yoruba-will-never-support-goodluck-jonathan-in-2015/

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/tambuwal-elected-house-of-representatives-speaker/92761/

https://ogala./2011/06/06/aminu-tambuwal-elected-speaker-against-pdps-wish/

The reasoning of the bigot who assembled the lies above is not only terrible but despicable. 
Many Yorubas are noise makers and become rattled when confronted with the truth. Many a time you do not know what  Yorubas stand for. 

What do you call 'political sophistication'? Peddling lies and propaganda in every available media in order to tarnish and paint other people black so as to make some undue political gains that are bound to boomerang? 

[b]It's basically in Yorubaland that a man like Tinubu who embezzled Lagos State would call the shots and Yorubas would still sheepishly prostrate before him and follow him and his candidate blindly. Many Yorubas sheepishly follow criminals like they have no sense.

As big as Rochas Okorocha is, he was not sure of winning a second term as a governor of Imo State because his people were not satisfied with him. In Ebonyi State, the governor's candidates failed woefully. That's the Igbos for you. Nobody can hold Igbos down for too long; they will rise up against such political leader.
It's in Yoruba land that one person would perpetually control the people's resources and they will sheepishly follow him. If it were in the South East, Akinwunmi Ambode will deny Tinubu publicly to stand a chance of winning the gubernatorial election just like Ikpeazu, Abia State PDP candidate, denied TA Orji to win some votes.

Igbo people believe no man was born to perpetually lord it over them.  

Observe that most of the people talked carelessly if not stupidly as regards 2015 elections, both in the ruling party and the opposition were Yorubas. Many  took things overboard,  threatening fire and brimstone - from Obj, Tinubu, Okupe, FFK, Lai Muhammed, Fayose, Fashola etc.

Even Yoruba people who cannot handle their families and fence-climbing thugs with no respect for the law or law enforcement called president GEJ unprintable names.

These unrepentant thieves, prostitutes and murderers of yesterday have used their giant loots to attempt to grow legitimacy and to corner the "highest-bidder-gains-it -all" political process.
They seem to feel they are born kings and queens and that attention is owed them. They do not consider anyone else's nature, but bulldoze over other people with self-righteous arrogance and supposed 'sophistication'.

For the records, Igbos supported Tinubu, and Fashola as governors of Lagos State for 16 years! That was why an Igbo man, Ben Akabueze, has been a major cabinet member in Lagos for both Tinubu and Fashola.[/b]

Facts are sacred...
Yoruba have proven beyond reasonable doubt to be chief tribalists in Nigeria and can NEVER vote anybody outside their tribe in elections. Otherwise can you compare Obasanjo’s 4 years and Jonathan's 4 years Yet Yorubas supported Obasanjo for 2nd term notwithstanding Buhari was contesting in 2003.

Yoruba has been voting along tribal line since independence (facts are sacred). Quit denigrating other tribes especially Igbos to cover your lies and ethnic bias.
The South-West zone had 14,296,163 registered voters, which represented 19.44% of the total number of voters nationwide. In terms of national electoral strength, the zone was number 2. Taking into account the electoral behaviour of the South-West since independence, the zone has proven itself, without exception, of incapable of voting anyone other than its own

In the 1st Republic, it voted mainly Action Group in favour of Chief Obafemi Awolowo with about 69% voters’ turnout.

In the 2nd Republic, it voted 78.75% of its total votes cast for UPN in favour of Chief Awolowo, with 70% voters’ turnout. 

In the June 12, 1993 presidential election, the pattern was repeated more or less the same, except that the total percentage of SDP’s votes in favour of Chief MKO Abiola rose up to 84.5% in the zone. 

In the 1999 presidential election, mainly because the only two candidates for the presidency were both from the South-West, the zone’s voters’ turnout was abysmally low (48.09%) with about 68% of the votes cast to APP in favour of Chief Olu Falaye. 2003 also recorded poor voters’ turnout with 71% of votes cast for Obasanjo’s PDP. 

In 2011, with no South-Western candidate fielded by any of the major parties, the South-West voted PDP when a functional alliance with the CPC failed to field in Sen. Bola Ahmed Tinubu or his nominee. Besides, with the vicious experience of Alliance for Democracy in 2003 when the PDP Federal Government uprooted AD government in five states of the zone, the South-West could not afford to risk having an opposition PDP government at the Federal level again; certainly not after the hard pains and toils of forming the APC. It is therefore existential for the South-West to vote APC at the presidential election.

http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/politics/50349-2015-presidential-election-how-and-why-pdp-will-lose


For many decades now, how did Hausa-Fulani build bridges with the frequent killings and destruction of lives, properties and places of Christian worships, not to mention the Boko-Haram insurgents who are not only threatening the existence of the country but maim and kill peasants farmers and villagers on a regular basis? But they now have the presidency while the Yorubas vice-presidency! What a misnomer!

Almost throughout GEJ regime Hausa-Fulanis and some traitors in the South West were preaching hate messages in the North and in the South West.
These unrepentant prophets of doom devised every crook tactics (falsehood, media propaganda, threats, sponsored Boko-Haram insurgency still rearing its ugly head, blood shed etc.) and they still believe that Nigeria can subsist.

And what would you say of the North where Jonathan carried out most of his developmental projects at the expense of his Ijaw people and yet the greedy tribalists colluded with Yorubas and voted against him? Or the Yorubas who voted against Jonathan because Buhari's vice, Osinbajo, is a Yoruba man?
The last time I checked Jonathan is not an Igbo man. Many Igbos voted voted for Jonathan because treachery and betrayal is not in their DNA unlike the Yorubas and their co-travellers.
Many disgruntled Yorubas called GEJ many unprintable news - clueless, weak, visionless and impotent - online and offline simply because he is not from the born-to-rule tribes. There cannot be peace in a country where some people regard others as second-class citizens even in their own fathers' land that's feeding the country.

Many of these tribalists and hypocrites were in government and nothing worked. They fleeced our commonwealth and there was no transparency. Now these sets of hypocrites have begun another round of propaganda and deceit against Igbos - their nightmares!.

If Yorubas are accommodating and friendly, why have Yorubas persistently bred and used miscreants to distort money and distrupt the businesses of law-abiding citizens in Lagos? Why would any Yoruba person dare utter such word like 'accommodating' other people in Lagos - a city developed with crude oil money and by the communal efforts of every tribe in Nigeria for close to a century; as if Yorubas feed other people and give out lands for free? 

If Yorubas didn't want any Igbo man to own a part of their land, why did they sell their lands to them in the first place? Why should thecYoruba man collect over N300 million from an Igbo man just to sell a plot of land to him in Ikoyi; collect taxes and other tenement rates from Igbo man and yet, they will not want him to claim rights of a landlord? Did any Igbo man stop you from buying properties, lands and other assets in Igboland and laying claims as a landlord? 
When did Orji Uzor Kalu's outburst that Lagos is a no man's land represent the opinion of over 70 million Ndigbo. Yorubas are aborigines in Lagos state. But if they decide to sell their fathers' properties to an Igbo man and collect his hard earned money and come back later to trespass, they should be jailed! Did anybody compel Yorubas to sell Igbos lands? Enough of this ethnic bigotry.

Asiwaju conducted census in Lagos state and told us that the Igbos are 45% of Lagos population, Yorubas are 47% and others make up the other number.
The Igbos are not daft or cowards to be threatened to vote for a particular candidate in Lagos 2015 gubernatorial election. It is so pathetic for Oba Rilwanu Akiolu to do so!

Between the Igbos and Yorubas, which of them constantly display insensitivity, crass disrespect, mindlessness arrogance and continued to insult the dignity and sensibility of other people using their numerous media outfits to heat up the polity, creating enmity and problems in the country and still foolishly think they are the 'sophisticated' tribe? The Emir of Kano, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi had already exposed such wicked lies in his paper titled 'YORUBAS ARE THE PROBLEM WITH NIGERIA'.

Igbo people are no betrayers and don't harbour traitors, chronic, perennial, perpetual, pathological liars! 

Igbos have been killed in the North since 1940s, long before independence. They have continued to be killed in the North up till present. Nzeogwu's coup only provided a pretext for the North supported by the treacherous West to embark upon their favorite past time. Ojukwu defended Igbos from ethnic cleansing. Igbos survived the war because they are very resilient.

Yorubas and their co-travellers accuse Igbos of being greedy. That Igbo's love for money is insatiable, while every other Nigerian groups hate money! Abacha, Gowon, Obj, IBB, Danjuma, Abiola, etc, heartless men who looted the Nigerian treasury dry, is any of them Igbo?

If there is any one tribe in the world that values and protects the stranger that tribe is Igbo. Igbos permeate almost every nook and cranny of the country, peacefully and immensely contributing their quota to the economic advancement of the locals and the country at large. I am yet to read Igbos on rampage causing havoc and fighting their 'host'. Igbos network with their 'host', build business empires and some of them even get married to their 'host', all for peaceful co-existence and building bridges. Is that tantamount to stupidity, creating permanent enemies,  preaching hate, not being tactful   and not building bridges?

Is there any tribe that exhibits such 'Nigerianess' than the Igbos? Can the greedy tribalists boast of this? NO!


But what do the Igbos get in return for this patriotic display of One Nigeria - threats and destruction of their lives and properties by the so called 'host'? Igbos are being harassed, molested and their legal businesses distrupted on regular basis by the 'host' and its government. 

Oba Rilwanu Akiolu of Lagos even went as far as threatening to drown Igbos in the Lagoon if they did not vote for his candidate in the last 2015 election. And a good number of Yorubas hailed and supported their Oba for the bold step - Dr Ariyo, Kunle Afolayan etc.!


YORUBA LEADERS SOWED THE SEED OF TRIBALISM AND RUINED NIGERIAN ECONOMY
Many of the achievements of the Yoruba tribe is largely due to the fact that they have been unjustly favoured by the lopsided arrangement in the polity. That's why a great number of Yorubas would prefer the status quo to remain. A number of Yorubas have used the unjust system to their advantage, looting the treasury with reckless abandon. Yoruba leaders wrecked this country and brought her to the present miserable state! 

When a couple of distinguished past nationals like Nnamidi Azikiwe did their best to promote national patriotism even to the disadvantages of their own people, the likes Obafemi Awolowo used their positions to entrench hatred, bitterness, tribalism, nepotism and religious bias in the polity for their selfish gains. The latter are still being held in high esteem by their tribesmen, and they even use any means to shove it down the throats of other people.

Informed people are not deceived by Yoruba usual shouting, crying, weeping, wailing, yelling, cursing and making much noise on every available media. This a tribe that is after all well known for being loose cannons. Uncouth, uncivilised and disrespectful set of people who made a career out of abuse and slurs.
If there is any southern tribe that have gained much from this fraudulent union, it is the Yoruba tribe! 
Yoruba tribe have only flourished at the expense of others courtesy of the unjust system! 

In saner climes many Yoruba leaders should have been behind bars spending the rest of their miserable lives for the great looting of our commonwealth.

Inspite of the crass looting of the treasury by many Yorubas, Yoruba land still remains one of the illiteracy and poverty stricken regions in Nigeria! Yoruba achievements have not in any way given her people a better welfare than the Igbos.
Whichever way the loudmouthed tribalists turn, one is certain - they must be made to eat their words! 

The bottom line remains that guilty conscience is the problem of many Yorubas which has practically beclouded their sense of judgement. They taunt the Igbo with images of the Biafran war. They brag to these victims of their genocidal exploits in the war; how Adekunle murdered innocent youths in their prime and how their god Awolowo used starvation policies to create kwashiorkor-ridden children. And they think these things don't irk the common Igbo youth. 

The Igbos have done much and achieved much for themselves and Nigeria. Whatever negative impression you get from any quarter is as result of envy - the pull-him-down syndrome. But that has not deterred Igbos from waxing stronger and excelling in almost every socio-economic index.

In the light of this, it is very unjust to accuse Igbos of not being tactful and strategic or not building bridges just because they seek a legal way of determining their destiny. Stating that Igbos are not building bridges or not reasonable is all hogwash and amounts to nothingness. 

'One Nigeria' seems to be just for self benefit - anybody or tribe who is benefiting from it, be it in civil service, politics and business through monopoly, backed by evil structures put in place by past leaders will not agree that Nigeria should be restructured or otherwise. So many lives have been sacrificed and are still being sacrificed to keep Nigeria one at the expense of some people. Rather than challenge the gross inequality and injustice (quota system, false census figure, lopsided local government areas) in thepolity these tribalists still consider it right to fabricate and spread malicious messages to score political points that are bound to boomerang. 

Igbos may go through pains in the beginning, but majority are resolute fighters and never quitters. They are very confident of overcoming like they did after the Biafran war. 

Whatever Igbos may be going through now is part of the struggle. Freedom isn't given, it's taken. Definitely,  there is no pain, no gain.

The typical Igbo man is civil and values the sanctity of life.  

No matter how hard these evil men try to cover up and silence the truth; truth is stubborn and she cannot be drowned. She is like a pack of straws that are held together and pinned down by a strong hand at the bottom of a river so that she should not be seen or heard. Yet one day, in the fullness of time, that strong hand that seeks to suppress her forever shall wither and dry up. At that point Lady Truth will happily float to the top of the water where she will be seen and heard by all. It is in the same way that one day, in the fullness of time, the pernicious and perfidious verdict...that the powers that be have claimed....will be exposed for what they are.
You just wasted OUR time with this USELESS ramblings......who is ever surprised by you people's ramblings.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by azzima(m): 2:58am On Aug 17, 2015
I remember Igbos saying they have become Landlords while their Yoruba hosts are tenants. Which progressive People with COMMON SENSE will ever utter statements like that to their hostsWe have Binis, idomas,Hausas, igalas, efiks, even Ijaws that live in Lagos and NONE has ever disrespected their host with illogical statements like that. You know whybecause they are Rational thinking people who are very PROUD of their heritage and understands that they wouldn't want anyone to do it to them in their lands as well. But here we have the CBN (CHEST BEATERS OF NIGERIA )........acting like they have lost their senses. History keeps repeating itself with these folks,they just NEVER learn from past mistakes. ...it's embedded!

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by ARKdiscloser7(m): 2:59am On Aug 17, 2015
azzima:
You just wasted OUR time with this USELESS ramblings......who is ever surprised by you people's ramblings.

Obviously you are overwhelmed by the facts he dished out. If you don't have any reasonable comment and reply to his post pls keep shut.

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Re: Is Abuja A No Man's Land ? by azzima(m): 3:05am On Aug 17, 2015
kenny987:


Like I said, the Igbo will react if you threaten what his his whether life or property. Until Rilwan Akiolu did the lagoon threat crap did any Igbo person in any part of the SW denigrate any seat of authority? If any check well, there was provocation. He may not dobale or prostrate but he will not interfere in your activity either. However when u threaten him he will get in your face and let you have it. U will agree with me that they are peaceful people and do not go about killing or forcibly taking over properties unlike what Northerners do sometimes.

As you rightly said we come from different ethnic groups and we must learn to understand our differences. The Igbo culture is more inclusive and more of a confederation. Different families and units are autonomous unto themselves with representatives up to the Igwe's council. Power is not unilaterally reposed in one person and units and chiefs must be in agreement before decisions are taken. That is the Igbo man's culture and reality. He is already used to some level of authority and ability to take decisions and act for himself and his immediate unit/clan up to a certain level. That naturally confers some arrogance, if you will, on him. That is why I preach tolerance and understanding, cos if u attempt to threaten or cow him in any way, he will not wait for the approval of the Igwe or Oba to act. The Igbos respect their elders but cannot be dictated to. There must be a consensus to arrive at any major point.
Acting by IMPULSE and not taking time to think before you act is one of the Albatrosses of the Igbos. They don't think before they act or talk ,they are too sentimental and this last election Is a true reflection of that.

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