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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by carnegiefan: 8:16pm On Aug 18, 2015
The fact remains that Ijaw interest are better served if Ijaw seceded from Nigeria, particularly after Igbo had left. The logic is very simple.
Even going by the Op's own information/data, the only reasonable way for Ijaw to have a bright future is to secede from Nigeria, because there are people (people like the Op from the North) who just can't survive without oil in Ijaw lands.
The Igbo will form Biafra irrespective of what Ijaw does, because Igbo land is the most blessed inland (complete with every natural resource) part of Nigeria today. FACT.
I pity any Ijaw that remain in Nigeria after Igbo had left. hehehe. grin

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by pazienza(m): 8:19pm On Aug 18, 2015
Duru1:


Bros I do not give a ratass what Ijo do about their nationality. However, one thing is sure, thus, today is not 1967 and the approach this time around shall look like day and night when compared to 1967.

Yes. The mistakes of 1967 must be painstakinly avoided, I believe we have better human resources and intelligence today.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by sherrylo: 8:19pm On Aug 18, 2015
Omololu007:
the apois hav neva claim to b a yoruba tribe,get ur fact right

@ Omololu actually my hubby is an apoi from Igbobini Ondo state and they consider themselves Yoruba.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by ahaz: 8:19pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:
A speech given by Sam-James Miriki Hebden, IPA member. It is long but i would break it down in bits.




http://unitedijaw.com/analysis.htm
na wa o.some people without Igbo in their mouth they developed tooth ache.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:21pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


what makes u think that the ijaws would trust igbos even when rivers, a majority ijaw state is being governed by the igboiod tribes?

Are you Izon? Pls let me know! I don't seem to trust this una sudden love for our people since we started talking about walking with the Igbos!

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:23pm On Aug 18, 2015
pazienza:


With or without the Ijaws, Ndiigbo will achieve Biafra. This is not about trust, it's about getting what you need, by working with people you might not necessarily like.

what are the this bringing to the table? a partnership is based on terms and not sentiments
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:24pm On Aug 18, 2015
pazienza:


"Niger delta territories", by this nebulous term I suppose you mean Ijaw speaking territories, No?

80% of niger Delta lands are not igboid.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by pazienza(m): 8:24pm On Aug 18, 2015
carnegiefan:
The fact remains that Ijaw interest are better served if Ijaw seceded from Nigeria, particularly after Igbo had left. The logic is very simple.
Even going by the Op's own information/data, the only reasonable way for Ijaw to have a bright future is to secede from Nigeria, because there are people (people like the Op from the North) who just can't survive without oil in Ijaw lands.
The Igbo will form Biafra irrespective of what Ijaw does, because Igbo land is the most blessed inland (complete with every natural resource) part of Nigeria today. FACT.
I pity any Ijaw that remain in Nigeria after Igbo had left. hehehe. grin

Fact!

The victors( Arewa-Odua) who hijacked the Ijaw oil wealth and turned it to national bonanza are never going to give it back to them under the Nigerian arrangement.

Their( Ijaws) best shot at full resource control is outside the victors(Arewa-Odua) influence. They need to secede from the Union to achieve their goal.

But the fun fact is that with or without Ijaw support, Ndiigbo will successfully navigate her way out of Nigeria, what would happen to the Ijaw in an Igboless Nigeria, fully controlled by same victors( Arewa-Odua) that seized their oil wealth is left for Ijaw gods to envisage.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:27pm On Aug 18, 2015
I suggest all my Eastern brothers leave this thread. It's of no use.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:27pm On Aug 18, 2015
carnegiefan:
The fact remains that Ijaw interest are better served if Ijaw seceded from Nigeria, particularly after Igbo had left. The logic is very simple.
Even going by the Op's own information/data, the only reasonable way for Ijaw to have a bright future is to secede from Nigeria, because there are people (people like the Op from the North) who just can't survive without oil in Ijaw lands.
The Igbo will form Biafra irrespective of what Ijaw does, because Igbo land is the most blessed inland (complete with every natural resource) part of Nigeria today. FACT.
I pity any Ijaw that remain in Nigeria after Igbo had left. hehehe. grin

If viagra breaks, Every mini, micro, macro ethnic group in Nigeria would break into micro powerless nations. that is the fear of reasonable Nigerians and Africans.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by pazienza(m): 8:28pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:

80% of niger Delta lands are not igboid.
The last time I checked, Niger delta has 9 states.
Abia, Akwa Ibom,Bayelsa, Cross rivers,Delta, Edo, Imo, Ondo.
Seems to me like ND is atleast 30% Igbo by population, No?

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:29pm On Aug 18, 2015
dearpreye:


Are you Izon? Pls let me know! I don't seem to trust this una sudden love for our people since we started talking about walking with the Igbos!

the writer of that article is an ezon man. do you deny him?
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:31pm On Aug 18, 2015
carnegiefan:
The fact remains that Ijaw interest are better served if Ijaw seceded from Nigeria, particularly after Igbo had left. The logic is very simple.
Even going by the Op's own information/data, the only reasonable way for Ijaw to have a bright future is to secede from Nigeria, because there are people (people like the Op from the North) who just can't survive without oil in Ijaw lands.
The Igbo will form Biafra irrespective of what Ijaw does, because Igbo land is the most blessed inland (complete with every natural resource) part of Nigeria today. FACT.
I pity any Ijaw that remain in Nigeria after Igbo had left. hehehe. grin

Bro, we have nothing in common with the grandchildren of Uthman Dan Fodio. No sensible Ijaw opposes the Biafra move.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Lordave: 8:31pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


If viagra breaks, Every mini, micro, macro ethnic group in Nigeria would break into micro powerless nations. that is the fear of reasonable Nigerians and Africans.
This Bastard again?

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:32pm On Aug 18, 2015
dearpreye:
I suggest all my Eastern brothers leave this thread. It's of no use.

you can't keep running from the truth forever, can you?
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by pazienza(m): 8:35pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


If viagra breaks, Every mini, micro, macro ethnic group in Nigeria would break into micro powerless nations. that is the fear of reasonable Nigerians and Africans.

You have been brainwashed.
San Marino is a European country with population of 32,000 they are not begging for Italy their nearest neighbors to assimilate them https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marino

Ogoni is bigger than Lichtenstein, Andoni is bigger than Monaco, Degema is bigger than Gilbrata, Ekoi is bigger than Faroe Islands, Ibibio is bigger than Kosovo, Igboland is bigger than Netherlands.

All those countries are independent European countries doing fine. Forced co existence is a hallmark of parasitism.

Only Odua-Arewa people are scared of Nigeria disintegration for obvious reasons, not other Africans.

NB: Idemili North LGA has a population of about 160,000, it is more populous than San Marino.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:37pm On Aug 18, 2015
Lordave:
This Bastard again?

How's it going with murdering ur uncle, zombie? only psychopaths like you support viagra.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:40pm On Aug 18, 2015
pazienza:


You have been brainwashed.
San Marino is a European country with population of 32,000, they are not begging for Italy their nearest neighbors to assimilate them

Ogoni is bigger than Lichtenstein, Andoni is bigger than Monaco, Degema is bigger than Gilbrata, Ekoi is bigger than Faroe Islands, Ibibio is bigger than Kosovo, Igboland is bigger than Netherlands.

All those countries are independent European countries doing fine. Forced co existence is a hallmark of parasitism.

Only Odua-Arewa people are scared of Nigeria disintegration for obvious reasons, not other Africans.

NB: Idemili North LGA has a population of about 160,000, it is more populous than San Marino.

when other parts of the world are seeking integration, you want to alienate yourself? and what makes u think that ebonyi people would not also break to form their own nation? afterall they are bigger than San marino.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by biafranking: 8:41pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


Biafra as it is pursued now is only a scam ring with some zombie pawns as 'actualizers'. Real igbos are not in support of the present scam called biafra and neither are Niger Deltans
yu have layed your comment like a stvpid boi...
There is nothing like real igbos in biafra kingdom.
But there is something like we re all igbos whether they look alike or bear the same names,and again in as much you understand my communication and bear the same name with me..

We re sons and daughters frm the same kingdom.(bight of biafra)
tongue

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Duru1(m): 8:42pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


80% of niger Delta lands are not igboid.

Is 20% land not good enough for country? When did the size of land become the final factor in determining nationhood? It appears most Nigerians are blindly goofy.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by carnegiefan: 8:44pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


If viagra breaks, Every mini, micro, macro ethnic group in Nigeria would break into micro powerless nations. that is the fear of reasonable Nigerians and Africans.

I am not a reasonable Nigerian or African slave.
I am a diehard core Biafran, complete with all the dignity bestowed on me by the Most High, Creator and Master of the Universe.
You really have no idea what Biafra is about. So stop trying to debate with people who are lightyears ahead of you in terms of enlightenment.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:45pm On Aug 18, 2015
biafranking:
yu have layed your comment like a stvpid boi...
There is nothing like real igbos in biafra kingdom.
But there is something like we re all igbos whether they look alike or bear the same names,and again in as much you understand my communication and bear the same name with me..

We re sons and daughters frm the same kingdom.(bight of biafra)
tongue

Lol. idiot real igbos are those that understand the igbo maxims and have the future o the igbos at heart.

So bight of viagra is now a kingdom? these zombies cannot stop vomiting trash.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:46pm On Aug 18, 2015
carnegiefan:


I am not a reasonable Nigerian or African slave.
I am a diehard core Biafran, complete with all the dignity bestowed on me by the Most High, Creator and Master of the Universe.
You really have no idea what Biafra is about. So stop trying to debate with people who are lightyears ahead of you in terms of enlightenment.

No, you are just a brainwashed zombie.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by carnegiefan: 8:48pm On Aug 18, 2015
dearpreye:


Bro, we have nothing in common with the grandchildren of Uthman Dan Fodio. No sensible Ijaw opposes the Biafra move.

I thought as much. I'd leave the thread as you advised bro.
The OP is only stoking disunity in our ranks.
I'm out! cool

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Duru1(m): 8:48pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


when other parts of the world are seeking integration, you want to alienate yourself? and what makes u think that ebonyi people would not also break to form their own nation? afterall they are bigger than San marino.

I suggest you quit making yourself a half fed political neophyte. What parts of world are seeking to integrate? It was not too long that British disintegration was subjected a plebiscitary test. Few chaps in Spain are still hell bent on breaking away.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Sanchez01: 8:49pm On Aug 18, 2015
oweniwe:
People are ignorant

Biafra pre-dates the civil war.

Long before Nigeria ' s formal colonization, the areas from ebonyi to d bordrr of the Benin kingdom was known as Biafra.

What is presently called Bight of Bonny was formerly called Bight of Biafra.

So generalizing Biafra as igbo name/struggle/domination is very very wrong
As much as I don't dispute this, I find it questionable for several reasons. The fact that there are no documents, cum "real" maps to back it up is enough. The only maps we can see are the ones online which could have been easily created by God-knows-who. Biafra still remains the struggle and emancipation of Igbos, by Igbos and for the Igbos.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by pazienza(m): 8:49pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


when other parts of the world are seeking integration, you want to alienate yourself? and what makes u think that ebonyi people would not also break to form their own nation? afterall they are bigger than San marino.

If tomorrow Ebonyi wants a country of their own, then it means their interest have not been well cared for in Biafra, so their desire for secession justified.

integration? That's exactly what ECOWAS/AU and EU, UN, etc are for.

The French doesn't need to be in the same country with the British to integrate.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:50pm On Aug 18, 2015
Duru1:


I suggest you quit making yourself a half fed political neophyte. What parts of world are seeking to integrate? It was not too long that British disintegration was subjected a plebiscitary test. Few chaps in Spain are still hell bent on breaking away.

the Greeks are fighting tooth and nail to remain part of Europe. costa rica is trying to join USA.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:52pm On Aug 18, 2015
carnegiefan:

I thought as much. I'd leave the thread as you advised bro. The OP is only stoking disunity in our ranks. I'm out! cool
when people Don't buy your lies, you scamper off like a coward that you are.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:54pm On Aug 18, 2015
pazienza:


If tomorrow Ebonyi wants a country of their own, then it means their interest have not been well cared for in Biafra, so their desire for secession justified.

integration? That's exactly what ECOWAS/AU and EU, UN, etc are for.

The French doesn't need to be in the same country with the British to integrate.


and So we would keep breaking. If there's a little family disagreement, that family would break away and form their own nation. the same autonomous craze ravishing the east as we speak.
Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Nobody: 8:54pm On Aug 18, 2015
carnegiefan:


I thought as much. I'd leave the thread as you advised bro.
The OP is only stoking disunity in our ranks.
I'm out! cool

You have to. Whatever you pay attention to, grows.

Discuss more of what you want; less of what you don't want.

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Re: Ijaws/niger Deltans Were Never Igbos/Biafrans - Stop Stealing Their Identity. by Duru1(m): 8:58pm On Aug 18, 2015
shachris:


the Greeks are fighting tooth and nail to remain part of Europe. costa rica is trying to join USA.

Are you okay with reference to the bolded? Greece is an integral part of the continent of Europe. I guess the dumbass Nigeria should also fight tooth and nail to remain part of Africa. Which Costa Rica is trying to join USA? Please, I suggest the best way to hide ignorance is by keeping mute.

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