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Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 8:14pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
oluwadanie1: Please do. And do get as many of his books as possible. |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 8:16pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
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Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 8:19pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
kayusbrown: Six conventional universities? That's rather hilarious, don't you think? Every single person will want to go to those six universities. Leaving the others begging for candidates. Also, there is nothing like de-emphasizing broad subjects, like physics. We are not the only ones that do physics in secondary school. Basic technology is NOT physics at all. I find the subject rather useless in fact. All in all, I do not want the current system to change. It us perfectly normal. What is abnormal is the mindset behind. When you say research, it is something individuals have passion for. You can't just give people money and tell them to "research." They first need purpose and proper mindset. With the right mindset, without the existence of universities, Socrates, eratosthenes, Plato, Aristotle, Fibonacci, imohtep and countless others excelled in academics and research. During newton's time, the university system wasn't as described by you. Yet him, de Fermat, pascal, toscallini, Colombus(uneducated), Descartes, and countless others, contributed immensely. And in fact. In that time. The behaviour of the government towards them was hundred times worse than now. Imagine if you were actually persecuted for scientific achievement, instead of ignored? All of this is why I maintain that the structure is good. It is the mindset with which we operate it that is lacking. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 8:23pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
butanep:exactly. They are taught the theoretical aspect. This is always a limiting factor. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by professore(m): 9:20pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
Very reasonable,if we read to understand,we will pass the exams,not only that,we will remember what we read and can make use of the knowlegde we gained in real life situations 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 9:28pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
professore: And that's when we have truly studied. 1 Like |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by IamThrive(m): 9:52pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
I see, I see, I see.; Entrepreneurs ruling the world come 2019... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by iamnaf(m): 9:56pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
Too much emphasis is being laid on paper-certificate and it doesn't seems to stop anytime soon. Sometimes i always wonder what's next after the four walls of the university and i have come to realise that through my previous two sessions in school, the most common statement from the lecturers will be "it may come out in your exams", such statements will only set the students' mind on passing the exam and leaving the course behind. I feel if every student can be compelled to take a course in a vocational centre as one of the criteria of gaining university admission, it would further open the mind and inner eyes of the student because a certificate doesn't prepare us for the outside world. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Dcmg2(m): 10:17pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
I remember when i was in school,with the excitement of gaining admission,i got a big dissappointment. Every lecture was just too boring and i felt absolutely nothing for the schooling system.During lecture periods i will always ask myself;"what am i doing here","was i really meant for these lecture-assignment-test-exam madness procedure just for a certificate?,is this it?" I felt total emptiness and i knew there was something missing in me. My advice to anybody would be;seek fulfillment then go for the necessary education to achieve it. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 10:26pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
Dcmg2: The mostly boring and arrogant lectures are still products of the weak and ineffective system! What did you expect? Life's all about pursuing one's passion and dream. |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Kazrem(m): 10:32pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
Summarily, don't go academically only also invest in self or personal development. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 10:40pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
Kazrem: Don't limit your education to mere academics. Learn everything. Don't study for the sole purpose of acquiring a degree......be educated.... |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by bare1(m): 11:24pm On Sep 17, 2015 |
ceecee0703: I agree with you, I don't see our school system as befitting for even basic education. I can do a better job educating my kids. My goal is to get them doing what they want as early as possible. 2 Likes |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by MattChidi(m): 12:52am On Sep 18, 2015 |
Well said and your points resonates home. I think the entire Nigerian students need to read this and change their orientation for the better. Our parents and society sold this ideas to us. Though, it worked for them during their time but unfortunately the world has changed and we need to flow with the tide. Thanks for this piece, let him that has ears hear... #I_♥_Education 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 5:04am On Sep 18, 2015 |
o FUTO I hail thee |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by professore(m): 5:47am On Sep 18, 2015 |
If we read to understand,we will pass our exam,remember what we read even after the exams,and we will be ale to make use of the knowledge gained in real life situations 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by acorntree(m): 6:43am On Sep 18, 2015 |
MattChidi:This shows that change is inevitable if we are to progress as a nation. Too much emphasis on paper qualification has been our major problem. Many people are just getting certificates, bsc ,MSC,PhD etc without any positive contribution to the society. This even reminded me of one of my lecturers ,whose teaching methodology never change after obtaining PhD. This craving for certificates need to change as there are so many loopholes in our educational system. people are using shortcuts to beat the system- many are not really educated. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by dpacesetter(m): 7:55am On Sep 18, 2015 |
dearpreye:Bro, I would appreciate if you can share some of your personal development books with me, so that I can get a copy on my own. Though having been reading some develop books, but I will like to read some of those books you have read so as to broaden my knowledge and develop myself personally. Thanks 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by ilyas26(m): 7:56am On Sep 18, 2015 |
francizy:This is good 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 7:58am On Sep 18, 2015 |
acorntree: Hmmm....If my degree cannot impact my environment or society, it's a waste of time and effort. This lack of positive impact from graduates is the biggest issue I have with certificate conscous system. What's the use of certificates if we can't use them to better our society? Life's more than money; life's all about impacting our generations. 1 Like |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 8:01am On Sep 18, 2015 |
dpacesetter: I'll be more than glad to share them. Try and get all of Jim Rohn books. Also get some of Wayne Dyer books. Darren Hardy books will do. Just read biographies of great men..... |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by mapet: 8:04am On Sep 18, 2015 |
Everything you mentioned here are good points. But they are still in the context of an all round education francizy: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by francizy(m): 8:23am On Sep 18, 2015 |
mapet: True that. I think I should rather have differentiated between a read-only based education (theory) and a practical based education. |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by DanielGb(m): 10:23am On Sep 18, 2015 |
I discuss this with a friend. We spent over 20 years of our life going to school. To do what? Learn. The system need knowledgable, experience and creative people. We are to acquire formal knowledge in school. In Nigeria context: its all about the Certificate. I told my friend, certificate is easy to acquire, only if student focus on acquiring the knowledge. Nigeria would be better off, if we have more knowledgable men than Paper carriers |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Akerry(m): 11:00am On Sep 18, 2015 |
dearpreye........thanks man 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by kayusbrown(m): 11:35am On Sep 18, 2015 |
Teempakguy: I agree there is a mindset problem but the system/structure as it is and its philosophy encourage the lazy mindset. The best way to change people's mindset is to create a system that leaves them with no choice if they must fit in. My proposition aims at shifting our educational philosophy from 'Knowing' to 'Doing'. You raised a very important issue about the proposed 6 conventional universities. The idea is to make them mainly postgraduate universities with few undergraduate courses just to allow the tutelage of young aspiring professors. Yes there will be a mad rush for these universities but measures will be put in place to admit only the best. Almost every American High School graduate aspire to study at MIT, Havard and Stanford but only a fraction gets there. There are hurdles to be crossed; finance, academic grades, skills etc. There will be limited merit-based scholarship award for the best students. Tuition fee and other charges will be reintroduced. Quality Education is not cheap. While the conventional universities offer courses like Mechanical Engineering, the specialised universities will offer its area of specialisation like Automobile Engineering, Aeronautical Engineering etc. There are so many details of the plan I can't possibly explain here. On the issue of physics, chemistry etc., they'll still be offered in our secondary schools but instead of having just Science, Commercial and Arts departments at the senior secondary level, there will be modifications/additions to produce departments like Technology, Creative Arts etc. that will teach vocational subjects so that secondary school leavers will have a sense of direction or career path after graduation. |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by geraob1: 12:21pm On Sep 18, 2015 |
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Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by olaexcel2008: 12:21pm On Sep 18, 2015 |
what a good write up! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 2:19pm On Sep 18, 2015 |
olaexcel2008: Thanks, man. Let's keep doing our little bits. |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by Nobody: 6:31pm On Sep 18, 2015 |
kayusbrown:I understand you. However, I wish to state that this has to be a two way thing. If the system is to be revamped, then there should be a change in the way of thinking. Harvard and most other ivy league schools are actually private institutions. So, while I am totally in agreement with this, I want it to be be added, a country wide change in mindset. Or people might just keep on buying their way into these universities. That is by the way. I think you and I both know that your plans for the government as stated above may not be realized in this decade. So, why don't we use what we have NOW? |
Re: The Dangers Of A Certificate-conscious Education System! by hahn(m): 7:17pm On Sep 18, 2015 |
Teempakguy: What do we have now? |
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