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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 11:03pm On Oct 16
n3xt:


Any day, any time I will always choose non-brand names over those big brand names in Nigeria.

Expensive roof without great installer is still a bad roof.

I’ve not done any business with money121 but I’ve known him for a very long time (when Lekki Gardens was just getting started). The truth is “His installations are always outstanding and that’s what make a great roof, not the expensive price tag.”

I’ve bought roofs from the biggest brand names in Nigeria and I’ve not seen anything unique to make them better than the other brands (that I’ve tested and used).

#MyPersonalOpinionHere

Thanks so much my oga at the Top

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 11:18pm On Oct 16
n3xt:


Setting out, Excavation money nko? Even Cement?

Me I’m thinking he should just buy blocks this month and do other materials next month.

I agree with your recommendation the most except buying blocks. He ought to mold blocks since he is not in a rush; most especially when he is building on budget.

I started my project by buying all sand needed to mold blocks. Then water pump and water storage tank
few months later bought all estimated sands and granite
I only bought irons and cements when it's time for foundation
I didn't feel any pinch from German to lintel because I am only buying cement as sand and blocks are already on ground

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 11:20pm On Oct 16
Dijita:


I agree with your recommendation the most except buying blocks. He ought to mold blocks since he is not in a rush; most especially when he is building on budget.

I started my project by buying all sand needed to mold blocks. Then water pump and water storage tank
few months later bought all estimated sands and granite
I only bought irons and cements when it's time for foundation
I didn't feel any pinch from German to lintel because I am only buying cement as sand and blocks are already on ground

At times buying of blocks is a better option! if you have a large build

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by RockOfAgesAlumi(m): 2:54am On Oct 17
Good morning all my boss in the house
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:26am On Oct 17
Dijita:


I agree with your recommendation the most except buying blocks. He ought to mold blocks since he is not in a rush; most especially when he is building on budget.

I started my project by buying all sand needed to mold blocks. Then water pump and water storage tank
few months later bought all estimated sands and granite
I only bought irons and cements when it's time for foundation
I didn't feel any pinch from German to lintel because I am only buying cement as sand and blocks are already on ground


Either way (buy or mold). Nice recommendation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:52am On Oct 17
erico2k2:

At times buying of blocks is a better option! if you have a large build

I always encourage homeowners to hire block molding machine or make a special arrangement with those who have it when they have larger projects.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDSch_I8MOE

The huge savings is worthwhile.

______
Pics below show some of the blocks produced for our projects in various locations. I have more confidence in these blocks than most blocks in the market.

Pic 1: Ibadan (16,000 pcs)
Pic 2-4: Lagos (18,000 - 35,000 pcs)

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 5:17am On Oct 17
Some of them do fade off after few months...



n3xt:


Any day, any time I will always choose non-brand names over those big brand names in Nigeria.

Expensive roof without great installer is still a bad roof.

I’ve not done any business with money121 but I’ve known him for a very long time (when Lekki Gardens was just getting started). The truth is “His installations are always outstanding and that’s what make a great roof, not the expensive price tag.”

I’ve bought roofs from the biggest brand names in Nigeria and I’ve not seen anything unique to make them better than the other brands (that I’ve tested and used).

#MyPersonalOpinionHere

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 5:49am On Oct 17
Good morning.

contact us for your roofing woods, wood work and materials.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa: 5:54am On Oct 17
Hello home owners/Realtors/engineers, kindly advice. which one would you advice ; Units of apartments in a bungalow setting or units of same in a story building?.

Condition of land: Dry, relatively cheap( Range of 2-3m naira per plot)
Apartments, when completed are to be rented out.

And to be more practical: Between 4 units of 2bedroom apartments in a bungalow setting and same in a story building, Which of these is advisable?. Short and long term.
cc: spyder880, Lastpage, n3xt, EgunMogaji2, mufutau55.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:19am On Oct 17
KIDfurniture:
Some of them do fade off after few months...




That’s why I said the ones I’ve tested and used. At least 10 years is a good time to confirm if a product is good!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:22am On Oct 17
MrOkenwa:
Hello home owners/Realtors/engineers, kindly advice. which one would you advice ; Units of apartments in a bungalow setting or units of same in a story building?.

Condition of land: Dry, relatively cheap( Range of 2-3m naira per plot)
Apartments, when completed are to be rented out.

And to be more practical: Between 4 units of 2bedroom apartments in a bungalow setting and same in a story building, Which of these is advisable?. Short and long term.
cc: spyder880, Lastpage, n3xt, EgunMogaji2, mufutau55.

If it's for rental, people tend to love the idea of "living on top". Maybe because of they want to see more of their environment outside as most bungalows in Nigeria are fenced in like prisons. I will rent an apartment on top faster than an apartment below.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:40am On Oct 17
MrOkenwa:
Hello home owners/Realtors/engineers, kindly advice. which one would you advice ; Units of apartments in a bungalow setting or units of same in a story building?.

Condition of land: Dry, relatively cheap( Range of 2-3m naira per plot)
Apartments, when completed are to be rented out.

And to be more practical: Between 4 units of 2bedroom apartments in a bungalow setting and same in a story building, Which of these is advisable?. Short and long term.
cc: spyder880, Lastpage, n3xt, EgunMogaji2, mufutau55.

Multi dwelling apartment in a very good location will bring higher ROI short and long term.

- One Roof
- One Foundation
– Lower Maintenance Cost and Fewer Repairs
– Lower Utility Bills
– Shared Facilities/Amenities, such as security and fitness centers, may be included.
- Lower Build Cost
- Higher Occupancy Rate

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:43am On Oct 17
MrOkenwa:
Hello home owners/Realtors/engineers, kindly advice. which one would you advice ; Units of apartments in a bungalow setting or units of same in a story building?.

Condition of land: Dry, relatively cheap( Range of 2-3m naira per plot)
Apartments, when completed are to be rented out.

And to be more practical: Between 4 units of 2bedroom apartments in a bungalow setting and same in a story building, Which of these is advisable?. Short and long term.
cc: spyder880, Lastpage, n3xt, EgunMogaji2, mufutau55.

I just went through this decision process.

It depends on your motivation. My motivation is not primarily income (but has to generate enough to sustain itself). My motivation is to provide luxurious SmartFlats for young families. What I envisioned for my property is a Southern California style bungalow resort as opposed to a ghetto project high rise. Many of the high rise rentals here end up having too high of occupancy density. Four to sometimes twelve families on a plot of land.

Good luck on your decision.

I backed my talk with a walk here https://www.nairaland.com/6094830/building-attached-2-bedroom-1

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Macsjebs(m): 6:46am On Oct 17
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MrOkenwa: 7:30am On Oct 17
spyder880:


If it's for rental, people tend to love the idea of "living on top". Maybe because of they want to see more of their environment outside as most bungalows in Nigeria are fenced in like prisons. I will rent an apartment on top faster than an apartment below.
Thank you Sir. Aside from this, what would you say about the cost of building and maintaining the structures?

n3xt:


Multi dwelling apartment in a very good location will bring higher ROI short and long term.

- One Roof
- One Foundation
– Lower Maintenance Cost and Fewer Repairs
– Lower Utility Bills
– Shared Facilities/Amenities, such as security and fitness centers, may be included.
- Lower Build Cost
- Higher Occupancy Rate

Boss, what I heard was actually the other way round. I was told that maintenance may be more technical, compared to bungalow buildings. For similar level of finishing.

EgunMogaji2:


I just went through this decision process.

It depends on your motivation. My motivation is not primarily income (but has to generate enough to sustain itself). My motivation is to provide luxurious SmartFlats for young families. What I envisioned for my property is a Southern California style bungalow resort as opposed to a ghetto project high rise. Many of the high rise rentals here end up having too high of occupancy density. Four to sometimes twelve families on a plot of land.

Good luck on your decision.

I backed my talk with a walk here https://www.nairaland.com/6094830/building-attached-2-bedroom-1

Thank you Sir. Your thread is very interesting. Following

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 7:52am On Oct 17
MrOkenwa:

Thank you Sir. Aside from this, what would you say about the cost of building and maintaining the structures?

Boss, what I heard was actually the other way round. I was told that maintenance may be more technical, compared to bungalow buildings. For similar level of finishing.

Thank you Sir. Your thread is very interesting. Following

For the same square feet it cost more to build a duplex carcass than a bungalow if all else is same.

The reason why multi story are more popular in Lekki versus Elebu is the price of the land. A plot in Lekki might cost N15M so you’ll need to shove as many flats on it for a decent time to recoup the investment. Same land might be N1.5M in Elebu so the pressure is less.

Maintenance on a bungalow will be less. Everything is more easily accessible and will not require extensive laddering.

Maybe a QS should chime in here to give us numbers.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 8:04am On Oct 17
MrOkenwa:
Hello home owners/Realtors/engineers, kindly advice. which one would you advice ; Units of apartments in a bungalow setting or units of same in a story building?.

Condition of land: Dry, relatively cheap( Range of 2-3m naira per plot)
Apartments, when completed are to be rented out.

And to be more practical: Between 4 units of 2bedroom apartments in a bungalow setting and same in a story building, Which of these is advisable?. Short and long term.
cc: spyder880, Lastpage, n3xt, EgunMogaji2, mufutau55.

Another thing to consider tho is the location.

Where will this project be located?

If in the East.. brother me, just build upstairs. grin People are not too keen to rent bungalow.

Cost wise a bungalow will be cheaper..

But...

considering the high cost of materials now.. it might cost between 2.5 to 3.2 m for decking but again you add a flat upstairs is an equivalent of buying another plot of land. So the flats upstairs that will give you an "additional space as another bungalow " the cost will offset itself.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:16am On Oct 17
Badgers14:


Another thing to consider tho is the location.

Where will this project be located?

If in the East.. brother me, just build upstairs. grin People are not too keen to rent bungalow.

Cost wise a bungalow will be cheaper..

But...

considering the high cost of materials now.. it might cost between 2.5 to 3.2 m for decking but again you add a flat upstairs is an equivalent of buying another plot of land. So the flats upstairs that will give you an "additional space as another bungalow " the cost will offset itself.

In addition:

Multi-Dwelling Units/Apartments have one roof, one foundation, and one general exterior structure. Because a 6 flat spread on 3 floors have six kitchens and living areas, it'll appear more expensive when you look at the cost but if you were to consider the cost to build six separate houses, you would have the following:

- 6 separate foundations including cost of acquiring the land and sandfilling
- 6 separate roofs
- 6 ceiling woodwork and POP ceiling (instead of screeding in a multi-dwelling building)
- 6 separate wall structures

This costs significantly more to build than to install a second kitchen and to divide the layout of the duplex into two equal spaces. Regardless of your location, the key housing cost drivers must therefore be targeted to drive housing cost reductions.

If we are to follow the industry standard when calculating the total cost of building both house type then we will break the costs down into broad categories (land, infrastructure, construction, other costs), sub-categories (foundations, walls, roof, finishes), and into component costs (labour vs materials, cost per sqm etc).

If we do this, a multi-dwelling unit is far more cheaper than single-dwelling houses. The cost of buying a new land, adding a foundation, adding a roof and ceiling can never be cheaper than the cost of pouring a slab.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:25am On Oct 17
n3xt:


In addition:

Multi-Dwelling Units/Apartments have one roof, one foundation, and one general exterior structure. Because a 6 flat spread on 3 floors have six kitchens and living areas, it'll appear more expensive when you look at the cost but if you were to consider the cost to build six separate houses, you would have the following:

- 6 separate foundations including cost of acquiring the land and sandfilling
- 6 separate roofs
- 6 ceiling woodwork and POP ceiling (instead of screeding in a multi-dwelling building)
- 6 separate wall structures

This costs significantly more to build than to install a second kitchen and to divide the layout of the duplex into two equal spaces. Regardless of your location, the key housing cost drivers must therefore be targeted to drive housing cost reductions.

If we are to follow the industry standard when calculating the total cost of building both house type then we will break the costs down into broad categories (land, infrastructure, construction, other costs), sub-categories (foundations, walls, roof, finishes), and into component costs (labour vs materials, cost per sqm etc).

If we do this, a multi-dwelling unit is far more cheaper than single-dwelling houses. The cost of buying a new land, adding a foundation, adding a roof and ceiling can never be cheaper than the cost of pouring a slab.


One massive foundation with massive pillars.

I quoted you but I’m not feeling good. I ate too much beans last night grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:35am On Oct 17
MrOkenwa:

Boss, what I heard was actually the other way round. I was told that maintenance may be more technical, compared to bungalow buildings. For similar level of finishing.

Smiles. Does it mean it'd cost more to maintain a building where tenants share a common expenses for the general exterior maintenance and repairs? I dont think so.

For me, I think it’s better and more economical (decision wise) to develop a parcel of land and have 20 apartments share one roof, than have 20 single-dwelling housing unit with 20 roofs. There's no way that'll be cheaper in the short and long run than a multi-dwelling unit.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:42am On Oct 17
EgunMogaji2:


One massive foundation with massive pillars.

I quoted you but I’m not feeling good. I ate too much beans last night grin

grin grin This actually depends on the location. Will I do this in a place where land is sold N200k - N1,000,000? Probably not!

The cost of getting approvals too is not smiling. Approvals for single dwelling units will be far more than a multi-dwelling unit.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by waley007(m): 10:55am On Oct 17
saydfact:


Hi wALEY...

Use tha money to buy 1000 blocks @ N180 = 180k
Buy 1 Tipper Sharp Sand @ 35K
Use the balance of 85k to buy Granite.

Money well invested......

THEN start saving for LABOUR MONEY about 200k to get the actual work done. (consider Omo Onile money seperately)

GOODLUCK
wow, thats exactly what's on my mind , here in ondo ,block is #150 and the granite is 55k , so I had planned to do the above , though there is no issue of omo onile where my land is
My initial plan is block 1000
2 tipper of sand
Granite -#55k
Cement - 20bags
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 12:17pm On Oct 17
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 1:54pm On Oct 17
spyder880:


If it's for rental, people tend to love the idea of "living on top". Maybe because of they want to see more of their environment outside as most bungalows in Nigeria are fenced in like prisons. I will rent an apartment on top faster than an apartment below.
I have been doing stair for ages man! I am beginning to hate "living on top", even with numerous lift options available I still prefer bungalow. Prison fence won't deter anyone once you are a target, plain view itself is security and any suspicious movement or incident can easily attract alarm.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omanzo02: 2:11pm On Oct 17
n3xt:


Any day, any time I will always choose non-brand names over those big brand names in Nigeria.

Expensive roof without great installer is still a bad roof.

I’ve not done any business with money121 but I’ve known him for a very long time (when Lekki Gardens was just getting started). The truth is “His installations are always outstanding and that’s what make a great roof, not the expensive price tag.”

I’ve bought roofs from the biggest brand names in Nigeria and I’ve not seen anything unique to make them better than the other brands (that I’ve tested and used).

#MyPersonalOpinionHere

Brand is just a name, for me, once the quality of materials and technology used conformed with the requirements I will gladly buy it, I bought a Kobo kobo Topcraft high pressure cleaner because I knew the technology and quality is from Karcher which is very expensive.
Big brand = pay big for using my name

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by HsLBroker(m): 2:30pm On Oct 17
Don't be deceive, China produce everything, we use in construction, apart from blocks made in Nigeria, Iron rod, Planks, Cement, every others things are made in China, but their are grades
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 3:10pm On Oct 17
mufutau55:


I will have a "fired Engineer" in about two minutes.
Next time he will omit pillars especially where the Architect purposely put a pillar, because the neighbour does not have a pillar in that location. What next?
How much does the DPM cost to lay, about N50k, why will he omit that?

Hajji M.

Imagine providing materials for your Engineer and he says not to use it.

As an Engineer, you should be the one clamouring for DPM , wire mesh and hardcore if possible. Not rejecting it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by BIGGIE121(m): 3:20pm On Oct 17
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 3:23pm On Oct 17
temi4fash:
Please I told my Engineer to put DPM in our DPC but unfortunately we got to site today and found out he didn't put it. He said houses around do have issues with moisture that DPC is good enough.

He didn't put nylon and he has finished the casting of the DPC/German floor.

Is there a way to still apply the DPM/Nylon before we continue.

Cc

Rotech77
N3xt
Muyi002

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 3:26pm On Oct 17
temi4fash:


Your no 4.

Can we have the DPM laid and then do another flooring on it

While I get another engr

Yes. But you know this will set you back another 500,000 or more shocked

You have to crack existing floor, and then wet the surface before laying a new floor so it can bind.

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