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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 11:51am On Oct 18
gbadexy:

Good morning chief.
As anything with water goes, prevention is better than cure.
In the event there is damp on the wall, it's best to use paint that would allow the wall to breathe.
There are some specialty paints with large pores to make this possible and it won't manifest on the wall but the air in the building would be damp and humid with possibility of respiratory illness.
The solution I feel is best suited in this part of the world with the available materials to work with is the use of undercoat from the bottom to the top of the room with the damp.
Apply it halfway and it may reappear at the part it ends.
For the external of the building, they could use a very light coat of a good quality paint in a single coat as the skirting so that the film coat is light to allow ground water to escape from there.
They could use any paint of there choice above the skirting. The reason is to provide an alternative weak spot for the ground water to evaporate and escape from.
Some people make the mistake of applying oil based gloss as the skirting. This worsens it as it seals off the point of contact of the building and the ground and doesn't allow the water easy passage. The water would eventually peel it off and possibly damage the plaster also.
You can't stop water but only channel it in a controlled manner.

Ok, personally, I have been doing a bit of research on water proof paints and water repellant screeding materials.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by shithapuns: 11:54am On Oct 18
is it possible to easily install a ceiling fan hook to a decked ceiling?. the ceiling fan hook in my new home wasnt bent to form a hook, guess they forgot, so am looking for the easiest remedy to it. any diy tool to bend the 12mm rod?. i dont mind installing a new hook if its going to be easy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 12:03pm On Oct 18
coldcandy:
Any fabricator of frameless casement windows here?

It’s not frameless window, it’s called “ cutting wall window” the frame used to fabricate this type of window is more bigger than regular casement window frame only that you will not noticed the Frame from outside.

We did same here for NL member sometimes ago.

Window size determine the cost

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 12:04pm On Oct 18
shithapuns:
is it possible to easily install a ceiling fan hook to a decked ceiling?. the ceiling fan hook in my new home wasnt bent to form a hook, guess they forgot, so am looking for the easiest remedy to it. any diy tool to bend the 12mm rod?. i dont mind installing a new hook if its going to be easy

Get a gas welder to heat up the rod and bend it to shape.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 12:04pm On Oct 18
waley007:
wow, thats exactly what's on my mind , here in ondo ,block is #150 and the granite is 55k , so I had planned to do the above , though there is no issue of omo onile where my land is
My initial plan is block 1000
2 tipper of sand
Granite -#55k
Cement - 20bags

This is a great plan.... Pls activate it if you haven't..

Goodluck

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 12:05pm On Oct 18
coldcandy:
Any fabricator of frameless casement windows here?

Is this your project or are you looking to replicate this on your site?

I am not a fabricator by the way, I just have few questions.

I understand people's choice and all but why frameless? How would a frame less window hold up in a long run?

Just curious to know if there are science behind this design or just an overambitious fabricator overshooting the runway..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 12:06pm On Oct 18
rotecch77:


It’s not frameless window, it’s called “ cutting wall window” the frame used to fabricate this type of window is more bigger than regular casement window frame only that you will not noticed the Frame from outside.

We did same here for NL member sometimes ago.

Window size determine the cost

Thanks for throwing more light on this, your explanation makes sense...

I was thinking, frameless windows ke shocked

Thanks for sharing!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 12:08pm On Oct 18
rotecch77:


It’s not frameless window, it’s called “ cutting wall window” the frame used to fabricate this type of window is more bigger than regular casement window frame only that you will not noticed the Frame from outside.

We did same here for NL member sometimes ago.

Window size determine the cost

Nice
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 1:09pm On Oct 18
rotecch77:


It’s not frameless window, it’s called “ cutting wall window” the frame used to fabricate this type of window is more bigger than regular casement window frame only that you will not noticed the Frame from outside.

We did same here for NL member sometimes ago.

Window size determine the cost

The frameless window ofcourse has a structural frame but no obvious frame around the perimeter. It is also called window wall and is installed between slabs or window opening to flush with the external wall.
The curtain wall on the other hand is attached to the side of the wall by anchors and can run allover the height and width of the building.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 1:12pm On Oct 18
Badgers14:


Is this your project or are you looking to replicate this on your site?

I am not a fabricator by the way, I just have few questions.

I understand people's choice and all but why frameless? How would a frame less window hold up in a long run?

Just curious to know if there are science behind this design or just an overambitious fabricator overshooting the runway..

The frameless window ofcourse has a structural frame but no obvious frame around the perimeter. It is also called window wall and is installed between slabs or window opening to flush with the external wall.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 1:36pm On Oct 18
rotecch77:


It’s not frameless window, it’s called “ cutting wall window” the frame used to fabricate this type of window is more bigger than regular casement window frame only that you will not noticed the Frame from outside.

We did same here for NL member sometimes ago.

Window size determine the cost

How much will a 120cm by 150cm cost? Black glass, black frames.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 1:42pm On Oct 18
raymondFirstborn:


Ok, personally, I have been doing a bit of research on water proof paints and water repellant screeding materials.

Waterproof paint or water repellent screeding materials can never be as effective as undercoat and those would at best protect the part used.
If there is no escape outlet for the water, it would still push it off.
I have water repellent paint and could make water repellent screeding materials but then paint won't be able to bond to it properly.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 2:13pm On Oct 18
gbadexy:

Waterproof paint or water repellent screeding materials can never be as effective as undercoat and those would at best protect the part used.
If there is no escape outlet for the water, it would still push it off.
I have water repellent paint and could make water repellent screeding materials but then paint won't be able to bond to it properly.

Ok, my area of concern is rising damp in especially old buildings. It's not like there's a direct impact of water and land is not water logged or swampy. Just typical dry land with an old building with damp, you don't think water proof coats would work?.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 2:21pm On Oct 18
raymondFirstborn:


Ok, my area of concern is rising damp in especially old buildings. It's not like there's a direct impact of water and land is not water logged or swampy. Just typical dry land with an old building with damp, you don't think water proof coats would work?.
I think identifying the source of the water first is most important.
With the information you gave, it could be from rain water soaking the walls from outside and a good quality matte paint could solve that.
You still have to identify the likely source though. I only commented based on the available information given.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 2:35pm On Oct 18
gbadexy:

I think identifying the source of the water first is most important.
With the information you gave, it could be from rain water soaking the walls from outside and a good quality matte paint could solve that.
You still have to identify the likely source though. I only commented based on the available information given.

In this case it's rising from the blockwork below ground level 2ft(600mm deep). The main concern are the internal walls.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 2:50pm On Oct 18
raymondFirstborn:


In this case it's rising from the blockwork below ground level 2ft(600mm deep). The main concern are the internal walls.
You could use undercoat for the internal.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 2:53pm On Oct 18
coldcandy:


How much will a 120cm by 150cm cost? Black glass, black frames.

I’m not a window fabricator, but my fabricator said btw 55-60k due to the cost of materials now

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:23pm On Oct 18
rotecch77:

It’s not frameless window, it’s called “ cutting wall window” the frame used to fabricate this type of window is more bigger than regular casement window frame only that you will not noticed the Frame from outside.

We did same here for NL member sometimes ago.

Window size determine the cost

What could be the price for 4ftx4ft, 5ftx4ft, and 6ftx4ft?
That should cover the range except a custom made windows. Nice windows though. Thank you.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:32pm On Oct 18
gbadexy:

You could use undercoat for the internal.

I was thinking so, but the external wall should have a way to dry out the dampness; not able to dry-out could collapse the blocks.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 3:38pm On Oct 18
mufutau55:


What could be the price for 4ftx4ft, 5ftx4ft, and 6ftx4ft?
That should cover the range except a custom made windows. Nice windows though. Thank you.

Hajji M.

4*5 price range 55-60k
4*4 price range 45-50k
6*4 price range 60-65k
All with Nigeria made Aluminum( towal)

From my fabricator

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:44pm On Oct 18
rotecch77:

4*5 price range 55-60k
4*4 price range 45-50k
6*4 price range 60-65k
All with Nigeria made Aluminum( towal)

From my fabricator

Thank you Sir.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 3:58pm On Oct 18
mufutau55:


I was thinking so, but the external wall should have a way to dry out the dampness; not able to dry-out could collapse the blocks.

Hajji M.
Yes sir. That's the best solution but they would have to use some special paint that allows water vapour to escape easily. The place would have to be well ventilated to avoid accumulation of stale humid air.
The Idea behind suggesting undercoat is to provide the lower part of the external wall as the weak spot to allow water escape.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:21pm On Oct 18
gbadexy:

Yes sir. That's the best solution but they would have to use some special paint that allows water vapour to escape easily. The place would have to be well ventilated to avoid accumulation of stale humid air.
The Idea behind suggesting undercoat is to provide the lower part of the external wall as the weak spot to allow water escape.

Thank you Sir. I understood the idea clearly.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 4:31pm On Oct 18
mufutau55:


Thank you Sir. I understood the idea clearly.

Hajji M.
You're welcome sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 6:36pm On Oct 18
rotecch77:


It’s not frameless window, it’s called “ cutting wall window” the frame used to fabricate this type of window is more bigger than regular casement window frame only that you will not noticed the Frame from outside.

We did same here for NL member sometimes ago.

Window size determine the cost
Hello rotecth I didn't see burglary on the windows, is it safe in the Nigerian environment?, or I did not have my glasses on to notice it?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Wingnut007: 8:35pm On Oct 18
raymondFirstborn:


In this case it's rising from the blockwork below ground level 2ft(600mm deep). The main concern are the internal walls.

If I understand this correctly, it means the dampness is coming from the foundation. If that's the case, how can this have been prevented? Can this also happen to a raft foundation?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 8:44pm On Oct 18
coldcandy:
Any fabricator of frameless casement windows here?
yah boss we are here sir, what do u have for us pls,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:01pm On Oct 18
[quote author=kopell post=95070319]Hello rotecth I didn't see burglary on the windows, is it safe in the Nigerian environment?, or I did not have my glasses on to notice it?[/quote

The burglar bars are there sir, we fixed them after the plastering

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 9:12pm On Oct 18
Wingnut007:


If I understand this correctly, it means the dampness is coming from the foundation. If that's the case, how can this have been prevented? Can this also happen to a raft foundation?

If damp proof membrane isn't used used during german floor, you might experience rising damp.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Wingnut007: 10:51pm On Oct 18
raymondFirstborn:


If damp proof membrane isn't used used during german floor, you might experience rising damp.

Thank you so much sir for taking your time to respond.

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