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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:06am On Aug 18, 2021
spyder880:
Good morning my people, these pictures are meant to stimulate the interest of people at the finish stages of their buildings where they might be needing tiles or doors. I was in Onitsha yesterday and as usual, stumbled upon these tiles selections as I was searching for the best choices for my various clients.

I dont sell tiles or doors in anyway, you can consult our in house tiles and door dealers to get the prices of some of these items in your own locations.

If I don't come in peace, wetin I gain? cheesy

Great collections.

I see Azuvi tiles - a very cool tiles design for the contemporary lovers.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:08am On Aug 18, 2021
negy2016:
@egunmogaji2 please can you share the address or number of this vendor. I really like the door. Thank you.

Of course, these kinds of data share I believe is why Hajji set up this thread back in the day.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:11am On Aug 18, 2021
spyder880:


Another colour of same door.

Very nice Sir.

I wasn’t aware such were available until recently. My next project will most definitely feature it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 10:15am On Aug 18, 2021
n3xt:


Great collections.

I see Azuvi tiles - a very cool tiles design for the contemporary lovers.

My brother, better things are there in the market, but money is the issue.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by negy2016: 10:15am On Aug 18, 2021
Thank you sir
EgunMogaji2:


Of course, these kinds of data share I believe is why Hajji set up this thread back in the day.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:23am On Aug 18, 2021
spyder880:


My brother, better things are there in the market, but money is the issue.

grin grin

The current situation has made me to be more minimalistic than ever.

I’ve experiment well enough to determine what’s enough for me.

May God give us the money to explore life.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 10:48am On Aug 18, 2021
You did well by advertising the services and skills that you can offer. However, you do not promote your services while playing down another equally noble profession as yours. You said clients don't need Quantity Surveyor just because your software can be used to take off quantities from drawings. Your knowledge is actually very limited on the horizon of the QS practice. Quantity Surveying has lots of software that they used to prepare their Bill of Quantities. Softwares that do not only take off quantities but also prepare prepare of bill of quantities. Examples include QSCAD, MBBS, MASTERBILL among others. Do not think for a second that you've just discovered the most profound finding of the century just because your software used in design can take off quantities. It's nothing new. Even Revit and AUTOCAD do that. What you fail to grasp is that quantities generated by these softwares are "net quantities" in most items of work and CANNOT be used to order the right quantities of materials from the market. Besides, most items of work are composite items - concrete, block work, mortar etc which software couldn't even itemise individual quantities.

So, just advertise your services and leave QS out of your troubles.


I come in peace.

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* We can give you your material quantities for your carcass. You don't need a QS.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 10:56am On Aug 18, 2021
This one that everybody is coming in peace, I love it grin

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 11:22am On Aug 18, 2021
QSFemi:
You did well by advertising the services and skills that you can offer. However, you do not promote your services while playing down another equally noble profession as yours. You said clients don't need Quantity Surveyor just because your software can be used to take off quantities from drawings. Your knowledge is actually very limited on the horizon of the QS practice. Quantity Surveying has lots of software that they used to prepare their Bill of Quantities. Softwares that do not only take off quantities but also prepare prepare of bill of quantities. Examples include QSCAD, MBBS, MASTERBILL among others. Do not think for a second that you've just discovered the most profound finding of the century just because your software used in design can take off quantities. It's nothing new. Even Revit and AUTOCAD do that. What you fail to grasp is that quantities generated by these softwares are "net quantities" in most items of work and CANNOT be used to order the right quantities of materials from the market. Besides, most items of work are composite items - concrete, block work, mortar etc which software couldn't even itemise individual quantities.

So, just advertise your services and leave QS out of your troubles.


I come in peace.


Chairman, read to understand. I specifically mention "material take-off" and not "BOQ" and that is what I was referring to by saying that I can provide the deliverable without a QS. Also, most jobs I have done and even in my current place of employment, I simplify the work of the QS by giving them the material take-off which they then arrange in their professional way for pricing. And beside, Engineers do prepare bills as well. So....

You came in peace but your comment is riddled with insulting language. Even without Revit, I can prepare all the material take-off manually. So, I really do not know what your grouse is.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:27am On Aug 18, 2021
EgunMogaji2:
This one that everybody is coming in peace, I love it grin

APC
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:42am On Aug 18, 2021
n3xt:


APC

Just come ride with my club in Ibadan once you get your free bike grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:47am On Aug 18, 2021
yungmin:


Chairman, read to understand. I specifically mention "material take-off" and not "BOQ" and that is what I was referring to by saying that I can provide the deliverable without a QS. Also, most jobs I have done and even in my current place of employment, I simplify the work of the QS by giving them the material take-off which they then arrange in their professional way for pricing. And beside, Engineers do prepare bills as well. So....

You came in peace but your comment is riddled with insulting language. Even without Revit, I can prepare all the material take-off manually. So, I really do not know what your grouse is.

Tbh, I read a different meaning to your “You don’t need a QS” message though.

But on the flip side, I didn’t see your message until QSFemi made it pronounced.

I agree you can promote your service without downplaying other profession.


Edit:
________

Here’s my suggestion, kindly edit out the controversial part of your comment.

I come in peace

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 11:50am On Aug 18, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Just come ride with my club in Ibadan once you get your free bike grin

I’ve called my clearing agent and already reaching out to the licensing office.

As a matter of fact, I’d be of best behavior moving forward.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 12:44pm On Aug 18, 2021
I didn't insult you in any way. I only told you to mind your design business and leave QS out of it. The bolded is actually laughable because that's the false impression engineers go about telling unsuspecting clients. Engineering practice as established by the law in the country never identify nor recognise costing as one of the roles engineers played. Doing so is tantamount to quackery. Same way we've draughtsmen doing structural designs without requisite qualification and competence. That doesn't make them engineers. Engineers preparing bills, no matter how badly prepared it's, is nothing but quackery. Quantity Surveying practice is also established by CAP Q1 Laws of the Federation of Nigeria (LFN) 2004, used to be decree No 31 of December 5, 1986 - an act of the National Assembly. Do well to familiarise yourself with laws establishing COREN in the country.

Back to materials take off from designs that you're bragging about, I still main the status quo, it's not a big deal. It's been around for years.


yungmin:


Chairman, read to understand. I specifically mention "material take-off" and not "BOQ" and that is what I was referring to by saying that I can provide the deliverable without a QS. Also, most jobs I have done and even in my current place of employment, I simplify the work of the QS by giving them the material take-off which they then arrange in their professional way for pricing. And beside, Engineers do prepare bills as well. So....

You came in peace but your comment is riddled with insulting language. Even without Revit, I can prepare all the material take-off manually. So, I really do not know what your grouse is.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by walexProjects(m): 12:46pm On Aug 18, 2021
n3xt:


It would have been nicer if you show detailed picture (a sketch won’t be a bad idea) of how this can be achieved and the advantages/disadvantages of the proposed design.
For this system, the main advantage is to ensure availability of water supply even when theirs no Electricity.
Gravity supply is a natural effect which will occur because water will always follow the path of least resistance.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 12:52pm On Aug 18, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


Just come ride with my club in Ibadan once you get your free bike grin
yaay

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 12:54pm On Aug 18, 2021
Ibadan we are here
Pop installations for this building

@twinskenny on the cctv as well

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 1:05pm On Aug 18, 2021
n3xt:


I’ve called my clearing agent and already reaching out to the licensing office.

As a matter of fact, I’d be of best behavior moving forward.

You don't need free things abeg.
Clear and I will come ride to Ibadan myself n it will be written that @next is a cheerful giver too. Ibadan ni mowa edaakun

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:22pm On Aug 18, 2021

Quotable Quote

Gravity supply is a natural effect which will occur because water will always follow the path of least resistance. ~ Walexprojects, MEP Service Engineer

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 1:36pm On Aug 18, 2021
QSFemi:
I didn't insult you in any way. I only told you to mind your design business and leave QS out of it. The bolded is actually laughable because that's the false impression engineers go about telling unsuspecting clients. Engineering practice as established by the law in the country never identify nor recognise costing as one of the roles engineers played. Doing so is tantamount to quackery. Same way we've draughtsmen doing structural designs without requisite qualification and competence. That doesn't make them engineers. Engineers preparing bills, no matter how badly prepared it's, is nothing but quackery. Quantity Surveying practice is also established by CAP Q1 Laws of the Federation of Nigeria (LFN) 2004, used to be decree No 31 of December 5, 1986 - an act of the National Assembly. Do well to familiarise yourself with laws establishing COREN in the country.

Back to materials take off from designs that you're bragging about, I still main the status quo, it's not a big deal. It's been around for years.



You are begining to display your ignorance. Are you the one costing roads and bridges? What law established that engineers don't do costing? Please, state it? Or you don't know the is a full body of knowledge called cost engineering? Or you don't know cost engineering is an area of specialization for some engineers? What do you know by your training as a QS about bridges, roads, jetties etc. Have you heard of the term - BEME(bill of engineering measurements and evaluation)? Is it a QS' term? Stop displaying your ignorance.

Please, state the section of the law that prohibits engineers from costing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 2:19pm On Aug 18, 2021
Get yourself educated first before throwing the word "ignorance" around. There's nothing like BEME in the eye of the law. It's just an unscrupulous attempt by engineers to usurp QS of their primary roles of costing. Come to think of it, you think the construction you mentioned such as bridges, jetties etc cannot be cost by a QS? How ignorant are you! Last two weeks, I prepared a bid for a dredging project brought to me by an engineer. Countless Quantity Surveyors are working with Julius Berger, Cappa and D'Alberto, CCECC (China Civil Engineering Construction Company) undertaking bridges, road construction, railway constructions. I've worked in a road construction company before costing nothing but roads, bridges and related works.

The term "cost engineering" is foreign to the Nigerian infrastructure development industry. It's never an area of specialisation in Nigeria. Rather, it's a specialized field used mostly in the USA. Due to absence of the term "quantity surveying" in the USA, cost engineering suffices to fulfil the role. Some of Nigerian trained quantity surveying graduates have undertaken post graduate studies in cost engineering in the USA. This should tell you that cost engineering is not domiciled only in the body of engineering alone even in the USA.

Nigeria gained independence from the UK and most of the tertiary education curriculum in Nigeria is fashioned after the UK model. In the UK construction and infrastructure development Industry, quantity surveyors are the only recognised cost expert on infrastructure developments - buildings, roads, bridges, jetties, railways etc.

The fight by engineers to oversee costing of infrastructure developments is an attempt to further drag the country further into the abyss of corruption that the country is already battling with.

Design and costing are two independent specialized fields and they're not mutually inclusive.





yungmin:


You are beginning to display your ignorance. Are you the one costing roads and bridges? What law established that engineers don't do costing? Please, state it? Or you don't know the is a full body of knowledge called cost engineering? Or you don't know cost engineering is an area of specialization for some engineers? What do you know by your training as a QS about bridges, roads, jetties etc. Have you heard of the term - BEME(bill of engineering measurements and evaluation)? Is it a QS' term? Stop displaying your ignorance.

Please, state the section of the law that prohibits engineers from costing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 2:23pm On Aug 18, 2021
Spanish wooden tiles
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 2:26pm On Aug 18, 2021
QSFemi:
Get yourself educated first before throwing the word "ignorance" around. There's nothing like BEME in the eye of the law. It's just an unscrupulous attempt by engineers to usurp QS of their primary roles of costing. Come to think of it, you think the construction you mentioned such as bridges, jetties etc cannot be cost by a QS? How ignorant are you! Last two weeks, I prepared a bid for a dredging project brought to me by an engineer. Countless Quantity Surveyors are working with Julius Berger, Cappa and D'Alberto, CCECC (China Civil Engineering Construction Company) undertaking bridges, road construction, railway constructions. I've worked in a road construction company before costing nothing but roads, bridges and related works.

The term "cost engineering" is foreign to the Nigerian infrastructure development industry. It's never an area of specialisation in Nigeria. Rather, it's a specialized field used mostly in the USA. Due to absence of the term "quantity surveying" in the USA, cost engineering suffices to fulfil the role. Some of Nigerian trained quantity surveying graduates have undertaken post graduate studies in cost engineering in the USA. This should tell you that cost engineering is not domiciled only in the body of engineering alone even in the USA.

Nigeria gained independence from the UK and most of the tertiary education curriculum in Nigeria is fashioned after the UK model. In the UK construction and infrastructure development Industry, quantity surveyors are the only recognised cost expert on infrastructure developments - buildings, roads, bridges, jetties, railways etc.

The fight by engineers to oversee costing of infrastructure developments is an attempt to further drag the country further into the abyss of corruption that the country is already battling with.

Design and costing are two independent specialized fields and they're not mutually inclusive.

To submit, your ignorance that "what do quantity surveyors know

You are really ignorant in many ways and I cannot even begin to educate you. It is very stupid to say cost engineering is foreign to the AEC industry in Nigeria. And is even more stupid to say BEME was a concussion by Engineers.

You are being aggressive unnecessarily. Just go chill.




Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:32pm On Aug 18, 2021
After this, nobody should come in peace again o grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 2:33pm On Aug 18, 2021
Gbas Gbos

Nibo latun jasi bayi

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 2:36pm On Aug 18, 2021
I won't patronize anyone that brings down other people's legal business just to promote theirs.

I can't and won't trust such a person in any deal.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by yungmin: 2:49pm On Aug 18, 2021
QSFemi:
Get yourself educated first before throwing the word "ignorance" around. There's nothing like BEME in the eye of the law. It's just an unscrupulous attempt by engineers to usurp QS of their primary roles of costing. Come to think of it, you think the construction you mentioned such as bridges, jetties etc cannot be cost by a QS? How ignorant are you! Last two weeks, I prepared a bid for a dredging project brought to me by an engineer. Countless Quantity Surveyors are working with Julius Berger, Cappa and D'Alberto, CCECC (China Civil Engineering Construction Company) undertaking bridges, road construction, railway constructions. I've worked in a road construction company before costing nothing but roads, bridges and related works.

The term "cost engineering" is foreign to the Nigerian infrastructure development industry. It's never an area of specialisation in Nigeria. Rather, it's a specialized field used mostly in the USA. Due to absence of the term "quantity surveying" in the USA, cost engineering suffices to fulfil the role. Some of Nigerian trained quantity surveying graduates have undertaken post graduate studies in cost engineering in the USA. This should tell you that cost engineering is not domiciled only in the body of engineering alone even in the USA.

Nigeria gained independence from the UK and most of the tertiary education curriculum in Nigeria is fashioned after the UK model. In the UK construction and infrastructure development Industry, quantity surveyors are the only recognised cost expert on infrastructure developments - buildings, roads, bridges, jetties, railways etc.

The fight by engineers to oversee costing of infrastructure developments is an attempt to further drag the country further into the abyss of corruption that the country is already battling with.

Design and costing are two independent specialized fields and they're not mutually inclusive.






And you did not state the section that prohibits engineers from doing costing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 2:52pm On Aug 18, 2021
Is that your best defence now?

yungmin:


And you did not state the section that prohibits engineers from doing costing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 3:04pm On Aug 18, 2021
somehow:
I won't patronize anyone that brings down other people's legal business just to promote theirs.

I can't and won't trust such a person in any deal.
Seconded
We remain peaceful!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 3:06pm On Aug 18, 2021
sonnie10:

Seconded
We remain peaceful!

I get paid to write, so no time to do any e-quarrel.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by TEQ365VENTURES(m): 3:10pm On Aug 18, 2021
I need a trusted and honest Tiles seller in Lagos I can recommend to a friend who stays in Ondo. The reason is because he couldn’t get the tiles of his choice in Ondo and the ones he could still manage isn’t up to the quantity needed. Pls if you have anyone I can recommend to him kindly help out thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sonnie10: 3:33pm On Aug 18, 2021
TEQ365VENTURES:
I need a trusted and honest Tiles seller in Lagos I can recommend to a friend who stays in Ondo. The reason is because he couldn’t get the tiles of his choice in Ondo and the ones he could still manage isn’t up to the quantity needed. Pls if you have anyone I can recommend to him kindly help out thanks.
There is no tile he won’t get at Orile Coker or Ojo building materials market.
If he insists on quality, then he can visit Emperor tiles along Apapa. They only sell Italian and authentic Spanish tiles. I discovered the place in 2007 for my first project.

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