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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 8:50pm On Nov 30, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GoodFaith: 8:53pm On Nov 30, 2017
nicemuyoo:
Hi all,
Pls I need a rough idea of the cost of wires/ cables installation for a house consisting of four 3-bed flats.and a house consisting of four 1-bed flats.
Thank you all
Three bedroom should range from 100k to 340k including labor
type of wire will make the differences
Did one three bedroom flat for 100k for a friend last year November 2016-- Benin city
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 2:44am On Dec 01, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 4:48am On Dec 01, 2017
Akpuoru:
Hi guys, I have an ongoing project in Benin but I was supplied the electrician I contracted does not know about the installation of lightening arrestor in fact he is talking me out of it.
I got a guy who said he would bury the copper tape from the arrestor together with the earthing cable 6mm from the DB. Please I don't know if am getting this right. Some info on lightening arrestor installation will be appreciated. Thanks

Please make sure the 2 dont come close to each other. It will be worst than not having lightening protection at all.

Imagine it this way, its like plugging your tv or the entire house to lightening.

Earthing and lightening protection are 2 different systems.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:13am On Dec 01, 2017
Akpuoru:
Hi guys, I have an ongoing project in Benin but I was supplied the electrician I contracted does not know about the installation of lightening arrestor in fact he is talking me out of it.
I got a guy who said he would bury the copper tape from the arrestor together with the earthing cable 6mm from the DB. Please I don't know if am getting this right. Some info on lightening arrestor installation will be appreciated. Thanks


Is your building duplex or bungalow..


1 copper earth rd
2 corper tape (original)
3 corper mart
4 industrial charcoal
5 industrial salt
6 corper clips
7 arrestor

These apply if your house is a duplex nothing serious you can ask your installer to call me I will guide him
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:17am On Dec 01, 2017
nicemuyoo:
Hi all,
Pls I need a rough idea of the cost of wires/ cables installation for a house consisting of four 3-bed flats.and a house consisting of four 1-bed flats.
Thank you all


U don the piping ? Sometime it's difficult given a rough estimate when we don't know the size of the building..


I have seen a 4 bedroom bungalow using almost same number of cable a duplex uses.. cause of the size

If you have a picture of your building you can send it.
And also we don't how many lighting points, sockets points , wall light etc
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 4tunebest(f): 7:37am On Dec 01, 2017
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Truthinlife: 8:17am On Dec 01, 2017
Hello everyone,
I’ve seen how beautiful cement screeding looks on external wall. Can cement be used in screeding internal walls also (Rooms,Living rooms etc).Is there a particular brand of cement recommended for screeding.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 8:42am On Dec 01, 2017
Truthinlife:
Hello everyone,
I’ve seen how beautiful cement screeding looks on external wall. Can cement be used in screeding internal walls also (Rooms,Living rooms etc).Is there a particular brand of cement recommended for screeding.

A beg wetin be cement screeding? . I look at POP screeding on must external walls and they way they flake off easily and the whole house looks disgusting afterwards.

Maybe this cement screeding go withstand our harsh tropical weather. I would like to know more about it...
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Truthinlife: 9:41am On Dec 01, 2017
alstacs:


A beg wetin be cement screeding? . I look at POP screeding on must external walls and they way they flake off easily and the whole house looks disgusting afterwards.

Maybe this cement screeding go withstand our harsh tropical weather. I would like to know more about it...
I believe so as well. From what I have read here, respectable men like Spyder and Hajj attest to its quality; however I don’t know if they used similar cement screeding on internal walls; that’s why I am asking for ideas from people who have done it to enlighten us.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ciga22: 10:45am On Dec 01, 2017
Hello Guru's in the house, please i have a plot of Land in Enugu measuring 90x60, i will want to know how much it will cost me to put a tiny duplex of 4 bedrooms so as to maximize enuff space for a 3 storey building(2 bedroom flat) inside the same compound as the case maybe. I will be glad to receive some sample drawings of the duplex..(if possible no dining included and no upstairs parlor) (sigaadera@gmail.com)

I want to start building asap. thanx

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 11:18am On Dec 01, 2017
Ciga22:
Hello Guru's in the house, please i have a plot of Land in Enugu measuring 90x60, i will want to know how much it will cost me to put a tiny duplex of 4 bedrooms so as to maximize enuff space for a 3 storey building(2 bedroom flat) inside the same compound as the case maybe. I will be glad to receive some sample drawings of the duplex..(if possible no dining included and no upstairs parlor) (sigaadera@gmail.com)

I want to start building asap. thanx
this is not yet clear to me or any other?

do u mean 2bedroom flat at d ground level and the 4bedroom duplex at d first n second level if i may ask?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 12:04pm On Dec 01, 2017
Ciga22:
Hello Guru's in the house, please i have a plot of Land in Enugu measuring 90x60, i will want to know how much it will cost me to put a tiny duplex of 4 bedrooms so as to maximize enuff space for a 3 storey building(2 bedroom flat) inside the same compound as the case maybe. I will be glad to receive some sample drawings of the duplex..(if possible no dining included and no upstairs parlor) (sigaadera@gmail.com)

Sounds like you want a duplex of 4 bedrooms fully detached, then you want another 3 storey building on the same plot. What will the 3 storey building contain?


I want to start building asap. thanx
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 1:04pm On Dec 01, 2017
GoodFaith:

Three bedroom should range from 100k to 340k including labor
type of wire will make the differences
Did one three bedroom flat for 100k for a friend last year November 2016-- Benin city

Wow. That's really cheap. 100,000 naira to buy original wires and installation labour just last year?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Ciga22: 1:07pm On Dec 01, 2017
Timtol:

this is not yet clear to me or any other?

do u mean 2bedroom flat at d ground level and the 4bedroom duplex at d first n second level if i may ask?

I mean the duplex of 4bedroom is a different structure then the 2bedroom flat is a differnet sturcture but in the same piece of land.

Size 1 plot (90x60).

Thanx
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 1:10pm On Dec 01, 2017
Truthinlife:
Hello everyone,
I’ve seen how beautiful cement screeding looks on external wall. Can cement be used in screeding internal walls also (Rooms,Living rooms etc).Is there a particular brand of cement recommended for screeding.

Cement screeding is used majorly for external walls. Not seen it uses inside but its possible.
POP screeding is used for internal walls to get the surface smooth and ready for *satin* painting (painting doesn't consume much paint -satin is very expensive).

Use Elephant cement. Doesnt dry too fast so prevents flaking.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 1:19pm On Dec 01, 2017
Truthinlife:
Hello everyone,
I’ve seen how beautiful cement screeding looks on external wall. Can cement be used in screeding internal walls also (Rooms,Living rooms etc).Is there a particular brand of cement recommended for screeding.

Yes. Yiu can use cement screeding anywhere. That is what I used on my present project for internal and external. Yiu can use any cement, it depends on who do your screeding. My unqualified opinion.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 1:52pm On Dec 01, 2017
KolaShangOne:


Wow. That's really cheap. 100,000 naira to buy original wires and installation labour just last year?

grin grin grin Maybe he used 1.5mm for all the lighting, socket, Water heater and AC
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 1:58pm On Dec 01, 2017
Ciga22:
Hello Guru's in the house, please i have a plot of Land in Enugu measuring 90x60, i will want to know how much it will cost me to put a tiny duplex of 4 bedrooms so as to maximize enuff space for a 3 storey building(2 bedroom flat) inside the same compound as the case maybe. I will be glad to receive some sample drawings of the duplex..(if possible no dining included and no upstairs parlor) (sigaadera@gmail.com)

I want to start building asap. thanx


hy I am a quantity surveyor and construction estimator.

I can help you with the cost.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 2:33pm On Dec 01, 2017
mufutau55:


Yes. Yiu can use cement screeding anywhere. That is what I used on my present project for internal and external. Yiu can use any cement, it depends on who do your screeding. My unqualified opinion.

Hajji M.
Hmm seems this wall screeding has become a norm in construction & no longer an option.
It is still for the big guys though....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 2:59pm On Dec 01, 2017
I go find your trouble small or should i say bust your bubble small.

If you get good plasterer who will sift the good plaster sand that you buy then you dont need to screed. Screeding na wayo extra work and money.

mufutau55:


Yes. Yiu can use cement screeding anywhere. That is what I used on my present project for internal and external. Yiu can use any cement, it depends on who do your screeding. My unqualified opinion.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Akpuoru: 3:25pm On Dec 01, 2017
adanny01:


Please make sure the 2 dont come close to each other. It will be worst than not having lightening protection at all.

Imagine it this way, its like plugging your tv or the entire house to lightening.

Earthing and lightening protection are 2 different systems.
Thanks so much
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 3:50pm On Dec 01, 2017
mufutau55:


Yes. Yiu can use cement screeding anywhere. That is what I used on my present project for internal and external. Yiu can use any cement, it depends on who do your screeding. My unqualified opinion.

Hajji M.

Alhaji, I have two questions,
1. this cement screeding is a process after normal plastering I presume? Or is it done during the normal plastering?

2.what does it look like? I sincerely am not comfortable with POP screeding outside, so this will be a good option for me.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 5:57pm On Dec 01, 2017
gabbytabby:
I go find your trouble small or should i say bust your bubble small.

If you get good plasterer who will sift the good plaster sand that you buy then you dont need to screed. Screeding na wayo extra work and money.

Truth dey this your comment
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 6:49pm On Dec 01, 2017
alstacs:


Alhaji, I have two questions,
1. this cement screeding is a process after normal plastering I presume? Or is it done during the normal plastering?

2.what does it look like? I sincerely am not comfortable with POP screeding outside, so this will be a good option for me.
let me help hajji out here.
screeding is done after plastering the building. cement screeding is smoother and better in my opinion. I used to have pictures of cement screeding of different projects but i don't have them anymore. However, I will post pictures of a painted project that cement screeding was used.
just for the record, I don't get involved in any form of screeding, I'm just giving my personal opinion. I've seen countless of pop screeding on sites and I've seen cement screeding and I only speak from my observation.
On a professional level, cement screeding doesn't set fast and won't waste materials.
it's smoother because it has longer open time to work it and has free lime to make it flexible when working before it sets.
water doesn't affect it, and water in paints also combine with the cement to further hydrate it. The water won't evaporate from the wall but would rather be soaked in by the cement to further hydrate it and make it stronger. The paint would therefore be chemically linked with the wall. it's won't peal off easily unlike pop screeding.
There is no cement/sand plaster that can give the level of smoothness as screeding. no matter how many times the sands are sifted.
you only need to compare the aggregate of both. The aggregate in pop emulsion paint used as the aggregate is calcium carbonate powder. you are basically comparing plaster sand to calcium carbonate powder in smoothness.
I've seen very well plastered walls that doesn't require screeding for matte emulsion to be applied on it, however it would still need to be screeded for satin to be applied on it. satin is thin and light and the tiny pores on cement plaster would be obvious and won't give that perfect smooth finish.

modified to include cement screeding

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 6:57pm On Dec 01, 2017
I lifted the pictures from a thread I opened for a project.
The interior and exterior was screeded with cement and pop emulsion paint.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 7:16pm On Dec 01, 2017
gbadexy:

let me help hajji out here.
screeding is done after plastering the building. cement screeding is smoother and better in my opinion. I used to have pictures of cement screeding of different projects but i don't have them anymore. However, I will post pictures of a painted project that cement screeding was used.
just for the record, I don't get involved in any form of screeding, I'm just giving my personal opinion. I've seen countless of pop screeding on sites and I've seen cement screeding and I only speak from my observation.
On a professional level, cement screeding doesn't set fast and won't waste materials.
it's smoother because it has longer open time to work it and has free lime to make it flexible when working before it sets.
water doesn't affect it, and water in paints also combine with the cement to further hydrate it. The water won't evaporate from the wall but would rather be soaked in by the cement to further hydrate it and make it stronger. The paint would therefore be chemically linked with the wall. it's won't peal off easily unlike pop screeding.
There is no cement/sand plaster that can give the level of smoothness as screeding. no matter how many times the sands are sifted.
you only need to compare the aggregate of both. The aggregate in pop emulsion paint used as the aggregate is calcium carbonate powder. you are basically comparing plaster sand to calcium carbonate powder in smoothness.
I've seen very well plastered walls that doesn't require screeding for matte emulsion to be applied on it, however it would still need to be screeded for satin to be applied on it. satin is thin and light and the tiny pores on cement plaster would be obvious and won't give that perfect smooth finish.

modified to include cement screeding
Very detailed explanation sir!
In summary your submission is cement screeding is better than POP screeding?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Truthinlife: 7:23pm On Dec 01, 2017
gbadexy:
I lifted the pictures from a thread I opened for a project.
The interior and exterior was screeded with cement and pop emulsion paint.
Thanks Everyone for this enlightenment. That’s the goal of this thread, to share ideas and one make an informed/wise decision. The walls look smooth and beautiful painting.
Last important question; How long do you wait after cement screeding before painting. Will the painter do primer or just straight painting.
Once again, I appreciate the comments from everyone.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:23pm On Dec 01, 2017
Rubbiish:

Very detailed explanation sir!
In summary your submission is cement screeding is better than POP screeding?
absolutely sir.
White glue or other forms of binder like the topbond should be included.
2 kg per drum of paint is ok. Ideally if it were to be regular paint, even the low budget type, there won't be need for adding extra binder. but the screeding emulsion paint generally have very low binder.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 7:43pm On Dec 01, 2017
gbadexy:

absolutely sir.
White glue or other forms of binder like the topbond should be included.
2 kg per drum of paint is ok. Ideally if it were to be regular paint, even the low budget type, there won't be need for adding extra binder. but the screeding emulsion paint generally have very low binder.
Thank u sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:48pm On Dec 01, 2017
gbadexy:

absolutely sir.
White glue or other forms of binder like the topbond should be included.
2 kg per drum of paint is ok. Ideally if it were to be regular paint, even the low budget type, there won't be need for adding extra binder. but the screeding emulsion paint generally have very low binder.

Baba, you know your onions. Master paint maker.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 8:13pm On Dec 01, 2017
Ciga22:
Hello Guru's in the house, please i have a plot of Land in Enugu measuring 90x60, i will want to know how much it will cost me to put a tiny duplex of 4 bedrooms so as to maximize enuff space for a 3 storey building(2 bedroom flat) inside the same compound as the case maybe. I will be glad to receive some sample drawings of the duplex..(if possible no dining included and no upstairs parlor) (sigaadera@gmail.com)

I want to start building asap. thanx

With all due respects Bro, and as a bona fide Enugu resident, a small duplex and a 3 storeyed building of flats may not fit into the same land if the plot size is only 90 x 60 ft. Except if the flats is not a double wing of flats which should mean about 8 flats of 2 bedrooms.

For one, the buildings cannot fit into the land talk less of park and living space. Soakaway tanks and possible water tanks. I suggest you get an architect to do you a sketch of what is possible before you move any further, lands are very costly, so ensure you make the best use of it.
Good luck.

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