romney678mitt:
Hello great people.. I have a little problem and I know you guys will help me. I applied to George brown college and after sending them the scanned copy of transcript they said they need the official from my school but my school said if they want to send it themselves it's going to cost 26k which is on the high side for me. I have an option to pay 12k and collect it myself and send via EMS at Nipost because it is much more cheaper. I want to ask if I send myself through nipost will they school reject it? Im using this medium because it's against may2016. Pls urgent advice is needed. Thank you everyone and happy Sunday to you all.

romney678mitt:
Hello great people.. I have a little problem and I know you guys will help me. I applied to George brown college and after sending them the scanned copy of transcript they said they need the official from my school but my school said if they want to send it themselves it's going to cost 26k which is on the high side for me. I have an option to pay 12k and collect it myself and send via EMS at Nipost because it is much more cheaper. I want to ask if I send myself through nipost will they school reject it? Im using this medium because it's against may2016. Pls urgent advice is needed. Thank you everyone and happy Sunday to you all.

WESTERNCR:
hmmm........ one of my cousins who actually was a victim of refusal after medical passed reapplied on 31st Oct. He only uploaded the medical request form he earlier got to the medical section cos he applied online. two days ago CIC updated his medical to medical passed. I believed CIC must have seen his earlier medical details cos he was worried may be he shld have requested the clinic to send him an acknowledgments of medical done in order to upload.
Still praying fervently for his pp request........so I pray for all those expecting passport request youshall get it this week in JESUS name. If you believe this say a big amen!!!!

hayqinsbFX:
Oh
Sorry wanted to quote @thesoj

@thesoj what school is your brother oing to?

senarthor:
Hello house, please is there any Winter January semester 2016 MUN bound student in the house? Wishing all the Medical and TRV hopeful a non controversial good news.... Always remember that only God can do it, not your dad SOA or your documents

romney678mitt:
Hello great people.. I have a little problem and I know you guys will help me. I applied to George brown college and after sending them the scanned copy of transcript they said they need the official from my school but my school said if they want to send it themselves it's going to cost 26k which is on the high side for me. I have an option to pay 12k and collect it myself and send via EMS at Nipost because it is much more cheaper. I want to ask if I send myself through nipost will they school reject it? Im using this medium because it's against may2016. Pls urgent advice is needed. Thank you everyone and happy Sunday to you all.

thesoj:
@Pinkcandy97
While it is fair to thank God for every outcome, getting your TRV has little to do with God.
Nigeria is one of the most religious countries in the world and we have been praying for our dear country for decades upon decades, yet our economy is still in the dumps. Our prayers have not changed our economy. Why? This is because you can't expect to reap where you did not put in intelligent hard work!

Getting your TRV is the same thing. True, a perfect application doesn't guarantee a TRV, but it increases the probability considerably. Night vigils won't considerably increase your chances (except maybe give you psychological confidence), in the same way as our endless prayers haven't fixed Nigeria's economy so far. Having good governance and strategic thinking (irrespective of if we pray or not) considerably increases the likelihood that we will have a better country. Same for visas. You don't have to be religious to have a successful visa application, or to have a good economy.

WESTERNCR:
hmmm........ one of my cousins who actually was a victim of refusal after medical passed reapplied on 31st Oct. He only uploaded the medical request form he earlier got to the medical section cos he applied online. two days ago CIC updated his medical to medical passed. I believed CIC must have seen his earlier medical details cos he was worried may be he shld have requested the clinic to send him an acknowledgments of medical done in order to upload.
Still praying fervently for his pp request........so I pray for all those expecting passport request youshall get it this week in JESUS name. If you believe this say a big amen!!!!

thesoj:
@Pinkcandy97
While it is fair to thank God for every outcome, getting your TRV has little to do with God.
Nigeria is one of the most religious countries in the world and we have been praying for our dear country for decades upon decades, yet our economy is still in the dumps. Our prayers have not changed our economy. Why? This is because you can't expect to reap where you did not put in intelligent hard work!

Getting your TRV is the same thing. True, a perfect application doesn't guarantee a TRV, but it increases the probability considerably. Night vigils won't considerably increase your chances (except maybe give you psychological confidence), in the same way as our endless prayers haven't fixed Nigeria's economy so far. Having good governance and strategic thinking (irrespective of if we pray or not) considerably increases the likelihood that we will have a better country. Same for visas. You don't have to be religious to have a successful visa application, or to have a good economy.

ayooluwatoni:


it's funny how people suddenly become spiritual during the waiting period. We all abuse Nigerian Police and other Government agencies of bribery and corruption, but honestly we are worse than them. Because we need visa, we'll quit those things we feel ain't right, and start marathon fasting and prayer......just to get visa and return to who we were.....
I remember when I first applied, I fasted ehn? Lots of prayers. Had just one prayer point in church, Canada Visa o God! At prayer meetings too nko? Canada visa yi na ni Oluwa...... stopped secular music.....became completely gentle. After two weeks, I was called for medicals......so happy me, felt mehn, I don cheat God. After another 2 weeks I got the two annoying dispatch mails from VFS..... I was denied visa.

of course I knew what my mistake was, and don't get me wrong, I wasn't wayward or worldly, I'm a Christian and I believe in God.
so I tackled what I thought was the problem, prayed, and submitted my application, while I continued my normal life. Fasted only when I felt I should, prayed about visa only when I felt I should, not really out of fear.......true, I was a bit scared at a time.....but eventually I started doing like "CIC go do your worse". And eventually, the visa came.

It is good to trust God for everything, but believe it or not, God will not do for you what He expects you to do yourself. Play your part, and let God play His own, and the result is gonna be PERFECT.

ayooluwatoni:


that's good. I did the same, but CIC requested for medical exam, went to the medical facility, where I did my medicals, and I was told to pay 14k, as the iME of my previous app is different from the current one. Had no choice, I paid 14k. But the consolation is, it was successful.

WESTERNCR:


Yeah.... that's a consolation bro....... if not I'll say you just lost 14k but all the same ojasope!!!

olujastro:


I actually chose M.Eng to save myself the stress of looking for a supervisor who will hardly respond to your email. For the first application(UofM) I did, perhaps I was naive not to value the importance of a good SOP. But for the second(UofR), I'm sure it was excellent at least from the views of my former colleagues now in top US schools. The only aspect I may not be too sure of is the academic references. Of my two referees, one is a Dr. while the other is doing his PhD. Could that be an issue as opposed to using Profs? I no get Professor friends oh.

ayooluwatoni:


mine was better though, someone else had to do fresh medicals, because IOM didn't agree to do what consultant practice did

WESTERNCR:
hmmm........ one of my cousins who actually was a victim of refusal after medical passed reapplied on 31st Oct. He only uploaded the medical request form he earlier got to the medical section cos he applied online. two days ago CIC updated his medical to medical passed. I believed CIC must have seen his earlier medical details cos he was worried may be he shld have requested the clinic to send him an acknowledgments of medical done in order to upload.
Still praying fervently for his pp request........so I pray for all those expecting passport request youshall get it this week in JESUS name. If you believe this say a big amen!!!!

ayooluwatoni:


it's funny how people suddenly become spiritual during the waiting period. We all abuse Nigerian Police and other Government agencies of bribery and corruption, but honestly we are worse than them. Because we need visa, we'll quit those things we feel ain't right, and start marathon fasting and prayer......just to get visa and return to who we were.....
I remember when I first applied, I fasted ehn? Lots of prayers. Had just one prayer point in church, Canada Visa o God! At prayer meetings too nko? Canada visa yi na ni Oluwa...... stopped secular music.....became completely gentle. After two weeks, I was called for medicals......so happy me, felt mehn, I don cheat God. After another 2 weeks I got the two annoying dispatch mails from VFS..... I was denied visa.

of course I knew what my mistake was, and don't get me wrong, I wasn't wayward or worldly, I'm a Christian and I believe in God.
so I tackled what I thought was the problem, prayed, and submitted my application, while I continued my normal life. Fasted only when I felt I should, prayed about visa only when I felt I should, not really out of fear.......true, I was a bit scared at a time.....but eventually I started doing like "CIC go do your worse". And eventually, the visa came.

It is good to trust God for everything, but believe it or not, God will not do for you what He expects you to do yourself. Play your part, and let God play His own, and the result is gonna be PERFECT.

YeToonde:

In this convo's context, there are two categories of people. Those who seek God cos they want their visa ish to all go well, and those who seek Him and are truly His regardless of whatever! Now, because 95% (of course only God sees the heart) fall under the the first, isn't reason enough to go about judging. All you gotta do is leave them to their faith!
I would like to tell you all I had in my pop man's SOA was 5.8million and bruh I had no scholarship or whatsoever other aid! No second sponsor even! I have no reason to lie. Coming to NL, I already concluded a refusal, But look! Ofcourse, it's an unusual scenario, So what do you say to that? An error on CIC's? or God's handiwork? To me I agree with the latter but it's my visa and opinion anyway, leave me to it.
I'm saying not to be so judgemental about people's opinions cos it's theirs anyway. Faith is something that happens with people who know who they serve, believe in Him and agree that it isn't and will never be by their works! All I'm saying is without work, faith is dead, but even the best of works would get you nowhere if it ain't with God's involvement (Mercy & Grace). So calm down and respect other people's opinion if you don't agree with them cos i'm sure you'll need that tip in canada bro! #Peace

Pinkcandy97:


Babe pls tell them o. We can't cheat God. He knows the end from the beginning.If you plan on going to the Canada to go back to your old ways, don't bother expecting answered prayers. It's not our effort.. If anything our effort is secondary. God is not dead. Pray and trust without doubt. And I promise you, you'll even be surprised at your own testimony.

Pinkcandy97:

thats why I said faith without works is dead. You can't compare Nigeria to this TRV situation because Not every Nigerian is truly serving God or even trying to keep his commandments . God destroying Sodom and Gomorah for their sins doesn't mean everyone there was bad. It just means that a larger majority of the people were corrupt and can't recieve blessings from God. That my last message is not for people who are running to God for TRV alone. I mean people who are truly serving him. He can never fail. Of this I'm sure. All you need is to pray and believe it's done. (Matthew 6:7&8 ) You might believe God has little to do with it but I know it's only God that does it. He's created the VOs minds so why are we getting all worked up . Dare to believe guys. People only receive these things by faith.

Pinkcandy97:
Let's just try trusting God for once and see how it goes. As for those who believe they did it on their own,I pray you realize now so that God doesn't make u learn through another situation that we can't do anything on our own. Also lets not forget not to doubt because, doubting God is an insult to him. He is more than competent only if u believe

olamitunposi:
I still believe it's God that do all thing... I will give you an example. A close friend sis went for an interview at the US Embassy in May. While on the que to be screened for interview, The VO who has been scrutinizing everyone's documents has been denying the applicants visa, but on getting to her turn, guess what, he didn't checked any of her documents just the name of her Fiance because she is going on a K-1 visa. Guess what she was given 10 yrs on her green card... Are you still going to say that isn't God's work?
What ever the case might be when it comes to VISA aspect, We all need God's grace, mercy and favor in all things and most important part is Faith.
I wish all TRV expectant Success including myself. And to all that are yet to apply, Package your App very well and Trust in God. Que Sera Sera

thesoj:
The bolded cannot be true, the person must have told you a beautifully embellished story or you misunderstood it. There is a separate process and application for getting a Green Card, and it is absolutely NOT possible to get a Green Card during a K-1 visa interview. I repeat, not possible. It is like saying that someone when to apply for an H-1B work visa and got a Green Card #notpossible. Or someone went to apply for B1/B2 visa and got an H1B work visa #notpossible. If such mistake is made the visa will be cancelled/modified at the port of entry. I am intimately familiar with the US immigration system and this story is a "cool story"!

Nonetheless, I disagree with your larger point that you get a visa due to favor from God. You can read my prior posts for my fleshed-out thoughts.

Apologies to everyone for derailing the thread.

olamitunposi:
I still believe it's God that do all thing... I will give you an example. A close friend sis went for an interview at the US Embassy in May. While on the que to be screened for interview, The VO who has been scrutinizing everyone's documents has been denying the applicants visa, but on getting to her turn, guess what, he didn't checked any of her documents just the name of her Fiance because she is going on a K-1 visa. Guess what she was given 10 yrs on her green card... Are you still going to say that isn't God's work?
What ever the case might be when it comes to VISA aspect, We all need God's grace, mercy and favor in all things and most important part is Faith.
I wish all TRV expectant Success including myself. And to all that are yet to apply, Package your App very well and Trust in God. Que Sera Sera

olamitunposi:


Well that is all I can say about it.. And I am sure it's not a Lie. And then Her fiance is a US Soldier. And it's not what they say or heard. Maybe I did misquote the type of Visa but I am sure it's not a Student Visa nor a Visiting Visa (100%) . And the 10 yrs grant made me believe there is nothing God Can't do... And I still stand with the fact that God has the Larger percent. Either your app is perfect or not. He knows the plans He has for everyone one of us. That was why I said Que Sera Sera.

thesoj:
@bolded: Nope, not true. You don't have to be religious or pious to get a visa.

You are preaching the prosperity gospel, which is heavily focused on materialism. Plain and simple. God is not a vending machine. You do realize that before the last two centuries (in the 1800 years since Christianity started), a nontrivial percentage of Christians (and of everybody else) in the world died of epidemics and devastating diseases; why didn't prayer or piety fix these problems? Would you contend that they weren't pious enough?

A C.S. Lewis book called "The Problem of Pain" discusses these problems deeply and extensively; the author is a revered 21-st century theologian/professor (he wrote The Chronicles of Narnia, and other works). The theological questions of pain & suffering & natural disasters in the world are not easy to answer, but I think statements like "all you need is to pray and believe it's done" are often quoted out of context and subsequently trivialize the true complexities of suffering, Christianity/God, and human action/inaction.

Getting visas is NOT a theological endeavor. It is a completely rational endeavor that is partly affected by another human's whims (i.e. the VO).

ayooluwatoni:


I honestly don't expect this topic to bring argument at all. It is only a fool that will say there's no God. And of course no one receives anything except given by God. But for the fact that God approves or has given you does not mean you won't work for it. True you may not labour like others will (because the Almighty has favoured you), but it is still your responsibility to play your part. It is your responsibility to know what documents to submit, it is your responsibility to explain yourself and make the VO understand your situation. God won't come and do all these for you. After you've played your part well, then chill and see how God will perfect it all. That is my opinion. It is my belief. You don't have to agree, but that doesn't make it invalid, neither does it render your opinion invalid too. This thread was created so we all could give our opinions on issues.

Pinkcandy97:


yes, God is not a vending machine.. That's why I've been saying only people who truly serve him get answered prayers.[i] About not being spiritual to get visa, yes , not everyone that gets visa is religious, but the grace and mercy of God has nothing to do with our works. Its just the way life is. God does what pleases him. [/i]That's why I believe divinity can never be totally fathomed.But what's certain is the promises for those who serve him would never pass them by.
It's his unconditional love for everyone that makes us get anything from him. Not how we serve him because our righteousness is as a filthy rag before him. It's his love for us dear

Only if you took your time to read and assimilate all I've been writing since. Is visa a bad thing? Every good thing comes from God (James 1:17)
There's no one that applies for visa that wants to get denied. Getting denied sometimes delays people's plans for their live. everything in life is theological boo. You Are trying to be too practical here but you're not getting the depth of life. We have nothing without him. Guys pls don't be decieved, you can't do it on your own. You need His grace in your visa