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Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by macof(m): 8:08pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
dejavski: Of course these can all be said to be ethnic groups of their own but they are still yoruba (excluding Egun) Nd for the Ikwere, Ika etc they are still igbo Nigeria is just messed up. ..kids are taught to hate everybody as parents always seem to have horrible things to say about other groups |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by macof(m): 8:15pm On Sep 08, 2015 |
scholes0: Quite right, There's a pattern - Itsekiri - Ijebu/Ilaje - Owo - Ondo/Ekiti Ekiti however don't have the Bini-like melody |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ibbobla(m): 11:08pm On May 22, 2017 |
What do the people of Ondo city use? Answer... dede. Does that make us different from the Yoruba ethnic group? In fact, all dialects spoken in Ondo state, differ from the conventional Yoruba language. I also believe it's same with the Igbo language spoken in the S/E. I can understand an Ilaje man as he too can, even though there could be slight modifications. The closest to the Ondo dialect, spoken by Ile Oluji and Idanre, has some variations. 1 Like |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ibbobla(m): 11:18pm On May 22, 2017 |
macof: An hallmark of the Ekimogun people of Ondo kingdom/city, but still doesn't make us Benin. I've observed closely, the dress sense if these two sides, but hardly note the difference. The rhythmic movement, unarguably similar if not same. |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by gregyboy(m): 6:30am On May 23, 2017 |
oba gha tokpere edo agha weè na tò kha efo vbe edo re rundo na edo oo dion 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by Nobody: 7:02am On May 23, 2017 |
Yes, the Ugbo are one of the aborigines of Ile Ife. You also have the Owu and Anioma Igbo (Ugbodu, Onicha Ugbo, etc.,) peoples among others too. According to Olowu, there are even Manu Owu communities in Igbo land, South Eastern Nigeria today. Igbos don't deny this, and it is because they afe the ones Oduduwa met in Ile Ife, the great kingdom of Ugbo of the Ilajes incuded. Below is an excerpt of what Olowu said, which we believe is true: "We are the Jews of the Yoruba race. We have Owu Obaloyin in Kwara so also Owu Isin. Aregbesola ( Osun state governor) was even telling me recently that he and a professor have discovered some Owus in the East. We are making efforts to meet these people.' Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/07/there-are-owu-communities-in-south-east-olowu/ |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by alexarelano(m): 4:23pm On Jun 03, 2017 |
Ilaje Omuro |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ayyoshert: 7:28pm On Dec 25, 2017 |
macof: watch this dance display from 2:03 and tell me there is no Bini influence/melody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRyn8beFLTw 1 Like |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ayyoshert: 7:32pm On Dec 25, 2017 |
scholes0:Most ekiti willl say 'Ihan omo ekiti kete' |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ayyoshert: 7:42pm On Dec 25, 2017 |
[quote author=dejavski post=37791792] Ilaje versions of yoruba words Omo - Yoruba / Oma - ilaje Ori(child) - yoruba/ Origho - ilaje Enu(Mouth) - yoruba/ erhu - ilaje Ile(House) - Yoruba/ Ule - ilaje Gbogbo(everything) - Yoruba/ de de(not related to dede which is a name) - ilaje Iyara(Room) - Yoruba/ kurudu - ilaje Bawo ni (how are you) - yoruba/ ko se gha - ilaje Ori mi rire(i am fortunate) - yoruba/ Orighomisan/Orimisan/Orimihan - ilaje Ki lo so(what did you say) - yoruba/ ki wo fo - ilaje Ta ni iwo(who are you) - yoruba/ ehi Lehi - ilaje Eniyan(person). - yoruba/ one - ilaje Egbon mi(my elder sibling or cousin or uncle) - yoruba/ ogbone mi - ilaje Tani (who) - yoruba/ Lehi - ilaje Any ilaje in the house feel free to add yours..[/quoti Ekiti is highly similar but in intonation there could be diff. Eni is Oni Enu is Erun Ki lo so is Koi Fo Bawo ni is Koi ti ri but yara is diff----- Orupo and so on. |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ayyoshert: 7:52pm On Dec 25, 2017 |
macof: I was suprised when my dad told me that the chieftancy title of our family (Ijan Ekiti) 'Oshogbon' has a Bini root, even Ologbosere and other titles of bini roots are also given in some families. The influence of Bini can't be denied in Ekiti culture and traditions. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by 9jakool: 9:37pm On Dec 25, 2017 |
ayyoshert: I'm pretty sure those are Ondo dancers from Owo. They were probably invited for the coronation. 1 Like |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ayyoshert: 12:17am On Dec 26, 2017 |
9jakool:having listened carefully and heard 'gede' i believe that too, but both dialects of Owo and ekiti bear a closer resemblance than other ondo dialects to ekiti. |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by macof(m): 12:38am On Dec 26, 2017 |
ayyoshert: Of course Ijan ekiti was at a time under Bini in the early 1800s so such titles are possible But the Bini influence on any Ekiti town including Ikere(with an Oba of Bini origin) is not of significant amount 3 Likes |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by macof(m): 12:54am On Dec 26, 2017 |
ayyoshert:that is from Usi And Usi was under Ido, which was at a time under Oyo. Bini influence over this area is almost non-existent These dancers could be from Owo as 9jakool suggested 1 Like |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by 9jakool: 4:29am On Dec 26, 2017 |
ayyoshert:Yeah, I could immediately tell based on the dialect, dance, attire, and instruments/music. Ekiti does not have Bini like melody. Relationship with Bini isn't as strong in Ekiti as it is in Ondo. Bini's encroachment into Ekiti is only limited to certain ares in Ekiti. Ekiti towns like Otun, Ido, Iye, Efon-Alaye, Iloro, Okemesi, Oye, Ikole, and Omuo didn't have much to do with Bini. 2 Likes |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by scholes0(m): 7:16am On Dec 26, 2017 |
9jakool: I don’t know if it is the so called “Benin melody” Buy Ekiti music actually shares that exact type of rhythm On the other end of the spectrum are the Oyos with their heavy talking drums, bata and stuff. |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ayyoshert: 9:30am On Dec 26, 2017 |
9jakool:you are right, i believe the influence is more with Ado and it's off shoot towns which my home town Ijan is part of, when we were growing we had this neighbour from Owo, my dad and their own dad communicated freely in each other's dialect. Then i got to know many words shared in common in our own ekiti dialect and owo like 'luka luka' or 'luka' which means daada in Yoruba, 'Fo'-- speak Just like you said the influence does not cover every part of Ekiti and even the Ekiti dialects are deeper from one axis to the other, while some could be easily likened to say Owo, Idanre, Akure dialects some are close to Ijesha, Igbomina etc. 1 Like |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ayyoshert: 9:39am On Dec 26, 2017 |
scholes0:that is what i am trying to say too, i remember in '91 when we went for our Grand dad's funeral, i was almost lost, i barely connected to the culture i saw, but since then, though i was still young i started getting curious about Ekiti, There was this drum in which the pattern of beating is not Yoruba at all, i remember my Dad saying they were ancient and the skins were human, even the music pattern and rhythm sound strange, especially the traditional ritualistic type. i cant count number of times when people ask after seeing my surname 'osatuyi' if i am Edo. i really love to know more on the past with Ondo and Ekiti. i want to believe poeple have been existing in these areas before waves of Ile Ife people came to mingle and mix up the tradition of the earlier aborigines of the place. 1 Like |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by macof(m): 1:13pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
ayyoshert:true, it is only natural. the entire Yorubaland could not possibly have been without other settlements outside Ife |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by AxxeMan: 1:15pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
ayyoshert: OSATUYI You are Edo plain and Simple .... You might familarize with those Yoruba ppl now but YOU ARE AN EDO DESENDANT!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by AxxeMan: 1:16pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
Macof or whatever you call yourself STAY OF EDO MATTERS!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by AxxeMan: 1:18pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
History031 come and see this Yoruba's here falling over themselves to explain Edo Influence to look minimal by all means but they cannot suppress what is greater than them so they end up looking foolish and dumb 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by macof(m): 2:01pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
AxxeMan: what ayyoshert calls 'Osa' is probably what we call 'Isa' in other Ekiti dialects. It is an ancient Ekiti deity Many old settlements and Family names in Ekiti come with Isa prefixes, Including the area where my Family houses and farmland are then the 'tuyi' is also typical yoruba.. there are names like Oguntuyi, Osuntuyi, Fatuyi ------------ People like you are a menace to humanity at large. Everything is not about your own ethnicity, more so a small minority like yours. rather than going about nairaland doing 'edo service' or 'edo defender' that does not pay Edo nation in any way, why not show your true love for Edo by helping your brothers and sisters out so they wont be going to europe through Libya.this sort of Ethnic bigotry doesn't help you, it destroys you 4 Likes |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by AxxeMan: 2:15pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
[[s]quote author=macof post=63623761] what ayyoshert calls 'Osa' is probably what we call 'Isa' in other Ekiti dialects. It is an ancient Ekiti deity Many old settlements and Family names in Ekiti come with Isa prefixes, Including the area where my Family houses and farmland are then the 'tuyi' is also typical yoruba.. there are names like Oguntuyi, Osuntuyi, Fatuyi ------------ People like you are a menace to humanity at large. Everything is not about your own ethnicity, more so a small minority like yours. rather than going about nairaland doing 'edo service' or 'edo defender' that does not pay Edo nation in any way, why not show your true love for Edo by helping your brothers and sisters out so they wont be going to europe through Libya.this sort of Ethnic bigotry doesn't help you, it destroys you[/quote][/s] You are talking nonsense stop trying to give meanings to words that mean nothing in your Yoruba or whatever language u speak! Instead of making a fool of yourself trying to give senseless meanings to words that aren't Yoruba try and help your hungry poor brothers so they will stop mining skulls and using baby's for rituals 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by gregyboy(m): 4:19pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
ayyoshert: i did ethnography of nigeria and got to find out that some family migrated from benin to ondo which was been observed in the family greeting of the benins .... in benin every family has a greeting to identify is own family when it got to some family they stated those family migrated to ondo ,ekiti etc and also a well know fact that these kingdom was under the benin influence before precolonisation 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by Nobody: 6:00pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
The "we be plenty confused"/yoruba will always have sleepless nights about Edo. Please can someone locate the bight of yoruba for me, or the bight of ife or the bight of oyo ? So "we be plenty confused"/yoruba no matter how hard you try, you will never be able to sufficiently rewrite history in order to delivers Edo heritage to you and your ife willage. The Capital of most of west Africa will always be Benin City, not your ife. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by 9jakool: 6:30pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
scholes0: I don't actually know what Benin melody is too. I'm not that familiar with traditional Edo music. I'm just assuming he's referring to the rhythm given off by the drum beats accompanied by the slow paced dancing, which just seems like one form of Yoruba music/dance. After all, traditional Yoruba instruments like agogo is used in Benin music. Actually, the talking drum is also used in traditional music in many parts of Ondo. They are traditionally used in kunbe music. Not all of the music from the region fall into the stereotyped "Benin melody" theme. I've seen quite a heavy usage of gangan during Obitun. I feel like what you have is more of a diverse music tradition. |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by gregyboy(m): 9:19pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
AxxeMan: are minding the yoruba boy dont you know they ard very cunning and possesive they twist anything basically to favour them selves history names i meaning anything just imagine when they said imade was a yoruba name until davido revealed it recently or saying oduduwa is yoruba when in thier alphabet there is nothing like "uwa" or is it when they claimed adele was a yoruba that are father is youruba and her mom is white until adele her self reveled otherwise or is when they claim oba heads are been buried in ile ife with no prove no heads to show for it or is it them saying benin was originally speaking yoruba before they changed the language to benin.. my friend leave them when yorubas have issue within themselves the truth would fall out from thier mouth like oba of lagos did 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by ayyoshert: 9:35pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
gregyboy:Uwa is used in the ancient Yoruba and still used in Ife, Ekiti and Ondo dialects, it means wealth/prosperity. I saw this thread as that which belongs for a matured mind deliberations and intellectual discourse but when it has gone down to the degrading norm this platform is known for, i beg to sign out. Thanks to Macof i guess you are Ekiti, do try open a thread for us that will talk on our history and dialect, thanks to Scholes, 9jacool and others that gave knowledgeable insights. 1 Like |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by AxxeMan: 9:54pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
ayyoshert: Keep feeding fat on the lies they are feeding you. When you have running stomach don't run back here!! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The ILAJE People Of Ondo State(history, Fact, Culture) by AxxeMan: 10:01pm On Dec 26, 2017 |
ayyoshert: What the fvvck is this one even saying! What ancient dialect and what ife?? Norbe only ancient na 18AD Stop making a fool of yourself trying to explain dumb lies to yourself and the end of the day a dirty lie is still a dirty lie 1 Like 1 Share |
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