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Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by menesheh(m): 9:08am On Sep 20, 2015
We all are aware to the wake of death tolls and injuries accrued from a recent crane mayhem in the muslem holiest site of which some Nigerian were involved in the disaster.
Can we refer to such phenomenon as a punishment from Allah?

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/09/hajj-107-die-in-crane-collapse-in-mecca/

Is there really a supervisor somewhere watching over all these?

"Is Allah willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him allah the omni-all?"

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by BrightEye(m): 9:16am On Sep 20, 2015
Perhaps, Allah's name has been distorted of its meaning. Or men couldn't have a true perception.
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by hahn(m): 9:17am On Sep 20, 2015
The only answer you'll get is "It works in mysterious ways" undecided

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by hahn(m): 9:18am On Sep 20, 2015
BrightEye:
Perhaps, Allah's name has been distorted of its meaning. Or men couldn't have a true perception.

What's is the true meaning of Allah's name?

Wait a minute, I thought Allah is it's name undecided

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by Hashimyussufamao(m): 9:20am On Sep 20, 2015
hw can ur god 2 b watching is only begotten son being nailed?? #nitwit

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by menesheh(m): 9:25am On Sep 20, 2015
hahn:
The only answer you'll get is "It works in mysterious ways" undecided

You are bad mouthed by inventing a theoretical rationale of the unknown diety, " the known unknown" grin

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by BrightEye(m): 9:27am On Sep 20, 2015
hahn:


What's is the true meaning of Allah's name?

Wait a minute, I thought Allah is it's name undecided

Allah, God, Oluwa etc....
The true meanings of these words are today wrongly interpreted...
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by Annunaki(m): 9:28am On Sep 20, 2015
Because allah is a powerless pagan deity grin

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by HomoSapiien: 9:30am On Sep 20, 2015
Annunaki:
Because allah is a powerless pagan deity grin

Allah, jesus, yehweh, and co are all powerless deity grin

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by Nobody: 9:32am On Sep 20, 2015
Haaaa
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by hahn(m): 9:35am On Sep 20, 2015
BrightEye:


Allah, God, Oluwa etc....
The true meanings of these words are today wrongly interpreted...

And the true interpretation is ..........?

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by johnydon22(m): 9:38am On Sep 20, 2015
HomoSapiien:


Allah, jesus, yehweh, and co are all powerless deity grin

No his own is the only powerful and real deity wink

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by johnydon22(m): 9:40am On Sep 20, 2015
The Muslim God obviously gives no rat about them suckers who are bowing to nothing every friday in the mosque, folks needs to grab some brains

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by BlackrulesDworld(m): 9:41am On Sep 20, 2015
One thing to bear in mind is that islam is spiritual and a mere academic exercise in it discussion and will lead us nowhere. For example, it is for those who only hear and read about the violence and mysticism in islam to explain the religion only on exegetical levels. Violence in islam is resl and it is spiritual. No doubt, this is a very offensive area, but it is a fact all thesame. And no matter how trenchant this may be, we know there are many honest muslims who are ready to face and re-examine facts when such fact are confidently tabled.

Allah is violence, so literally, its impossible for him to stop what he endorsed and like!

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by johnydon22(m): 9:41am On Sep 20, 2015
Annunaki:
Because allah is a powerless pagan deity grin
Can same be said about Yahweh for the T.B Joshua church collapse?

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by BrightEye(m): 9:44am On Sep 20, 2015
hahn:


And the true interpretation is ..........?

Telling you straight the true interpretation doesn't just do it!

But I can only give you some clues...

-carefully study the nature, it workings and the laws you observe afterwards..... then you would understand who God really is.
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by closetoyou(f): 9:45am On Sep 20, 2015
Nice question.
A lot of incidence have been happening in this world, the good, the bad and d ugly ones, however Allaah is not asleep, He neither sleeps nor slumbers, He is the knower of all things. In islam we call something qadar, thats destiny it comes in good and bad nd whichever way it comes it's always the best for us, dieing in Makka in a Friday under an accident during hajj is the best thing that can ever happened to a Muslim, they are martyred nd they will be so happy it happened to them (may Allaah overlook their shortcomings). Allaah could have stopped it, but He didn't he loves His slave and has given then a good ending. Op I know in your life u have not gotten all you need, you must have lost someone or something you so cherished, but y didn't d God u worship stop it? I understand the fact that you are expecting perfection from Allaah, thats y u thought like this, yes He is perfect and that is perfection you have seen by making His slave end well. We Muslims feel bad about the whole issues cause we are human but we are happy our brothers and sisters have ended their life well nd their families are well compensated. we are grateful to Allaah we have seen hardship, the type of Abraham the father of nation faced, having to live long before having a child, the type Jesus the son of Mary faced when he talked to the Jews but they refused to believe, the type Moses faced with pharoah, and d type Muhammad (peace be upon them all) faced when the pagan of Macca then gave me him tough time nd even planned plot against him. AlhamduliLlaah we are Muslims, we thank Allaah for the hardship and ask Him to give the ease to all affected and grant us all good ending..,aamiyn


I really don't need to ask y god allowed his son to be crucified, he could have stopped it... ( by this u don't mean Jesus, I mean the guy that was crucified then)
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by HomoSapiien: 9:46am On Sep 20, 2015
johnydon22:
No his own is the only powerful and real deity wink
Yes, he turned water to wine cheesy
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by Brown47: 9:46am On Sep 20, 2015
I'snt there any fOl who would tell us that they were destined by allah to die that day, that time, with that cause ?
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by johnydon22(m): 9:49am On Sep 20, 2015
HomoSapiien:


Yes, he turned water to wine cheesy [/i]
Well, Muhammed split the fĂșcking moon and they believe it anyway. . . .Can you possibly imagine that

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by HomoSapiien: 9:54am On Sep 20, 2015
johnydon22:
Muhammed split the fĂșcking moon and they believe it anyway. . . .Can you possibly imagine that

dafuqqq! Na agege bread

sad sad That mallam of saudi arabia can lie for middle east ehn. lol

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by johnydon22(m): 10:05am On Sep 20, 2015
HomoSapiien:


dafuqqq! Na agege bread

sad sad That mallam of saudi arabia can lie for middle east ehn. lol
You haven't heard the best of the lies and mythological fabrications.

Apparently according to Muhammed winged horses are real
. Muhammed rode a winged flying horse name Buraq to Jerusalem.

Muslims would laugh at the greek myth of Pegasus the flying horse of Perseus, But Muhammed rode a flying horse "Yes yes that is true, Allah is great"

Where did these folks drop their brains

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by HomoSapiien: 10:21am On Sep 20, 2015
johnydon22:

You haven't heard the best of the lies and mythological fabrications.

Apparently according to Muhammed winged horses are real
. Muhammed rode a winged flying horse name Buraq to Jerusalem.

Muslims would laugh at the greek myth of Pegasus the flying horse of Perseus, But Muhammed rode a flying horse "Yes yes that is true, Allah is great"

Where did these folks drop their brains

People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe its true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.

The first rule at work. lol.
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by hahn(m): 10:22am On Sep 20, 2015
BrightEye:


Telling you straight the true interpretation doesn't just do it!

But I can only give you some clues...

-carefully study the nature, it workings and the laws you observe afterwards..... then you would understand who God really is.


I like how you're trying so hard to defend your delusion. Try harder, it won't hurt

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by johnydon22(m): 10:29am On Sep 20, 2015
HomoSapiien:


People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe its true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.

The first rule at work. lol.

That's why it's called "Faith" because it does not deal with evidence but rather an absurd stoic conviction on the subject.

It simply means "Don't ask just believe it whether it is true or not"

Faith simply sometimes is a deranging quality because it kills the curiosity in man that should be an inquisitive being, it murders inquisitivity and postulates any absurd assertion against reason that should be believed against reason.

Faith is only employed when people hope to disregard evidence to uphold their emotional conviction.

I have always affirmed; If anything needs to believed by "Faith" then there is really no reason to believe it at all..

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by HomoSapiien: 10:37am On Sep 20, 2015
johnydon22:

That's why it's called "Faith" because it does not deal with evidence but rather an absurd stoic conviction on the subject.

It simply means "Don't ask just believe it whether it is true or not"

Faith simply sometimes is a deranging quality because it kills the curiosity in man that should be an inquisitive being, it murders inquisitivity and postulates any absurd assertion against reason that should be believed against reason.

Faith is only employed when people hope to disregard evidence to uphold their emotional conviction.

I have always affirmed; If anything needs to believed by "Faith" then there is really no reason to believe it at all..

You are spot on. You just summarized the 6th rule.

"Thinking is a choice. Wishes and whims are not facts nor are they a means to discover them. Reason is our only way of grasping reality; it is our basic tool of survival. We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss that we refuse to see."

Thumbs up bruh!!!

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Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by BrightEye(m): 10:38am On Sep 20, 2015
hahn:


I like how you're trying so hard to defend your delusion. Try harder, it won't hurt

And you think you too are not deluded?

Think harder.. cheesy
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by hahn(m): 10:51am On Sep 20, 2015
BrightEye:


And you think you too are not deluded?

Think harder.. cheesy

Whatever
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by BrightEye(m): 10:55am On Sep 20, 2015
hahn:


Whatever

grin
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by hahn(m): 11:06am On Sep 20, 2015
BrightEye:


grin

You need to change your moniker to blindEye grin
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by dareking48pro: 11:06am On Sep 20, 2015
Everything happens for a reason... Meanwhile,
Watch the video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6zmQMNziE
Re: Why Didn't Allah Intervene In The Recent Crane Disaster? by BrightEye(m): 11:09am On Sep 20, 2015
hahn:


You need to change your moniker to blindEye grin

Lol..
This guy don ves..
Runs out d thread....

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