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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:13pm On Oct 01, 2015
NairaMinted:
Apart from bombing the crap out of #Libya via #NATO the British planned the war with Syria in 2009 2 yrs before the "Arab Spring" using “moderate” terrorists. Think Al Qaeda aka “The Database.”

In a live TV interview the Ex French Foreign Minister, Roland Dumas, reveals all:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyRwFHR8WY

Fake Gov't propaganda via #MSMLies tries to convince us the UK/US et al are fighting IS except they're using them to topple Assad:
http://shoebat.com/.../isis-leader-admits-funded-obama.../

If they'd wanted to take out IS they could have bombed their long supply convoys as they crossed over to Iraq last summer before the fall of Mosul.
Sir, are you The Saker?
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by ValerianSteel(m): 1:13pm On Oct 01, 2015
ECOTERRORS:
A war btw the US and Russia will set Earth on extinction, there are a lot of proxy wars being fought by these two in Syria, Ukraine and Yemen.
The world needs a neutral non-aligned World Power to step into the power play between Russia and U.S.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 1:13pm On Oct 01, 2015
The US openly conspired to start this war and use Al Qaeda to do it YEARS before it even started.

Exhibit A: New Yorker 2007: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/03/05/the-redirection

"To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran. The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda."

Sound familiar? In 2007 under Bush arming and funding of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood already began. Isn't that exactly what's going on? Consider General Petreaus' latest "bright" idea: Petraeus: Use Al Qaeda Fighters to Beat ISIS
( http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/31/petraeus-use-al-qaeda-fighters-to-beat-isis.html )

Exhibit B: Brookings Institution 2015:
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/order-from-chaos/posts/2015/06/30-deconstructing-syria-ohanlon

"Counterintuitively, at this stage, the only realistic path forward may be a plan that in effect deconstructs Syria. A comprehensive, national-level solution is too hard even to specify at this stage, much less effect. Instead, the international community should work to create pockets with more viable security and governance within Syria over time. With initial footholds in place, the strategy could develop further in a type of “ink-spot” campaign that eventually sought to join the various local initiatives into a broader and more integrated effort."

Gee, really hard to see who is intentionally destroying Syria with terrorists and seeking to create an even bigger mess before it is all said and done. Not to mention the fact that the US JUST DESTROYED LIBYA.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:16pm On Oct 01, 2015
uselessgoat:


stop misleading people. Russia cannot withstand britain in europe. Moscow will be a graveyard within 1hr.
dude are you for real...Britain that has cut down its military budget over the past couple of years...Britain that can't even take on Isis..please Russia and USA are heads and shoulders above any other nation in terms of military might..Britain and other European nations hide under the cover of the EU and NATO..

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by ttmacoy: 1:18pm On Oct 01, 2015
That is if Russian jets are really bombing ISIS and not Assad opponents. Putin always has his hidden agenda with everything he does.




Zoharariel:
My advice to ISIS is very simple.

“Take cover, the Russians are coming.” grin

As for all the Muslims in the UK, Nigeria & Ghana that are sneaking into Syria to fight alongside the ISIS against Bashar Al-Assad;

Godspeed! grin
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:18pm On Oct 01, 2015
lozairio:
hw does capitalism cause war that's an absurd statement the countries that practice capitalism are at peace with them selves and are the richest and are envied by those that practice communism and socialism that why communist and socialist contend with capitalist to feel important because they know have nothing but war they are good at developing weapons but low health care infrastructure comared to capitalist nations
...and if what you are saying is the truth, then 62% of Americans won't be a single paycheck away from living on the street.... 76% of Americans are incapable of raising a merely $500 in an emergency. Check CNN Money for confirmation

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 1:21pm On Oct 01, 2015
No wonder the military top brass of Britain have threatened a coup should Corbyn become Prime Minister.
The U.S. in the meantime has deployed its most sophisticated nuclear bomb to Germany in a significant escalation of hostilities against Russia.
Germany, like the rest of vassal Europe have indeed gone mad and totally lost grasp of reality cos should war break out, Europe will be the battle ground and totally obliterated by nuclear weapons.

British Labor Leader Corbyn: “ISIS Created by UK and US”

By Alalam
Global Research, September 24, 2015
Alalam 19 September 2015

British Labor Leader Corbyn: “ISIS Created by UK and US”
British Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn has risked sparking fresh controversy after blaming the rise of ISIS on Britain and the United States.

The veteran anti-war campaigner said ISIS hadn’t “come from nowhere” and was partly “a creation of Western interventions in the region.”

Corbyn, 66, said attacking the fanatical group would only make things worse and instead claimed Britain would be safer it if declared that it supported the “diversity of faith and diversity of aspirations around the world.”

The remarks round off a turbulent week for Corbyn after overseeing chaotic cabinet reshuffle culminating in a public u-turn over Labor’s position on the European Union.

Corbyn was roundly condemned on Tuesday for refusing to sing the national anthem at a memorial to Battle of Britain heroes.

The veteran socialist, speaking to the obscure website ‘Middle East Eye,’ said Labor needed to stick to its ‘principles’ and vowed to stay on as Labor leader for the next five years.

But he risks a major rebellion over a proposed vote on extending the military action against ISIS into Syria.

The Prime Minister has called for a ‘political consensus’ in favor of authorizing military strikes before calling a vote in Parliament.

In 2013 Cameron was left humiliated after MPs – including Corbyn – rejected airstrikes. Speaking today, Corbyn said he would not change his position.

Corbyn said:

ISIS did not come from nowhere. They have got a lot of money that’s come from somewhere. They’ve got a huge supply of arms that have come from somewhere. They are – not in total, but in part – a creation of Western interventions in the region. What I would do is try to economically isolate them. And also try to unite the other groups in the region by supporting autonomy for the Kurdish groups and recognize the vast amount of arms that we have sold – particularly to Saudi Arabia – end up somewhere and those are now being used.

Bombing by the West in Syria now would create more mayhem. It’s very unclear who the alliances would be with and it would make the situation worse. I opposed the bombing of Syria in that historic 2013 vote and would continue that position.

Despite his position Corbyn insisted he would keep Britain safe.

He said: “We make ourselves safer by not being part of US foreign policy at every single turn. We make ourselves safer by saying we understand the diversity of faith and diversity of aspirations around the world. And also by becoming a force for human rights rather than military interventions around the world. I think that would make us safer.”

Corbyn has previously sparked fury by comparing ISIS brutality to US military action in Iraq; Daily Mail reported.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:23pm On Oct 01, 2015
lozairio:
hw does capitalism cause war that's an absurd statement the countries that practice capitalism are at peace with them selves and are the richest and are envied by those that practice communism and socialism that why communist and socialist contend with capitalist to feel important because they know have nothing but war they are good at developing weapons but low health care infrastructure comared to capitalist nations
If capitalism is about respect and peace, then why can't they respect and stop disrupting the peace of communist states? $600bn per year as military spending is meant for respect and peace huh? The tens of thousands of Americans that die yearly from gang wars, rampage killings, police brutality and co are also respect and peace? Lol

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by lozairio(m): 1:24pm On Oct 01, 2015
ayodele234:
...and if what you are saying is the truth, then 62% of Americans won't be a single paycheck away from living on the street.... 76% of Americans are incapable of raising a merely $500 in an emergency. Check CNN Money for confirmation
is it any better in any communist nation
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:26pm On Oct 01, 2015
ECOTERRORS:
I'm still baffled with the way US turned a blind eye to the *Arab Spring* in Bahrain when the majority Shiites marched aGainst the ruling Sunnis and Saudi Arabia had to send in soilders to quell the insurrection while the US turned a blind eye to it. My questions are


1. Is Bahrain arab spring diffrent from Libya's



2. When ll Saudi Arabia be termed an axis of evil with their support for fundamentalist



3. What is Saudi Arabia doing in Yemen with airstrkes targeting the Houthis who are no diffrent from the FSA in syria


4. What is the US gain in all these because Oil is being explored in US thru shale but the US forays in the middle east is escalating.


Cc gaborone


Hmmm...Arab spring...

lipsrsealed

Can I simply read the response to your questions and sit it out? lol
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:27pm On Oct 01, 2015
hiroz:
dude are you for real...Britain that has cut down its military budget over the past couple of years...Britain that can't even take on Isis..please Russia and USA are heads and shoulders above any other nation in terms of military might..Britain and other European nations hide under the cover of the EU and NATO..
Meanwhile the US will cut its military strenght by 40,000 personels by 2018. Bad times for America.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by mentorken05(m): 1:28pm On Oct 01, 2015
nwaanambra1:


[size=15pt]men! with all these mercenaries, terrorists, soldiers and world powers fighting ISIS and yet ISIS is still conquering territories - abeg this ISIS na gods them be??[/size]
have u not heard the saying that goes like this...“the enemy of my enemy is my friend”....indirectly all these people fighting ISIS are there friends
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:36pm On Oct 01, 2015
the issue is russia is blowing up places that have been rescued from isis abt six months ago which led to the death of abt 20 civilians. another issue is that russia is targeting the free syrian army an opposition to assad. so basically russia is there to free assad from all its opposition. it is likely civilians will get caught in d cross fire as the opposition lives amongst d civilians there, thats wha the us is worried about.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:38pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
If capitalism is about respect and peace, then why can't they respect and stop disrupting the peace of communist states? $600bn per year as military spending is meant for respect and peace huh? The tens of thousands of Americans that die yearly from gang wars, rampage killings, police brutality and co are also respect and peace? Lol

You are updated! Love guys who go through the pains to really know what is happening in our world today. Hollywood lies help spread the gospel of capitalist wealth across the globe, but we know we all know the american dream is for people who will never wake
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by lozairio(m): 1:38pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
If capitalism is about respect and peace, then why can't they respect and stop disrupting the peace of communist states? $600bn per year as military spending is meant for respect and peace huh? The tens of thousands of Americans that die yearly from gang wars, rampage killings, police brutality and co are also respect and peace? Lol
hw do capitalist states disrupt the peace of communist states communist hack into capitalist infrastructure and steal information and cause havoc capitalist places ban who drew first blood communist states threatened capitalist states that they will rain nukes on them you expect capitalism states not spend money to defend themselves gangs war are people not arrested unlike communist states where sons of the elite are members of the gangs and get away with it
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:40pm On Oct 01, 2015
adenine02:


haba bros no talk like this na

thier was notin like isis 3yrs ago na

dy wr born after america pledge to suport syrian rebel with1billion dollar

so what happen nxt
bros your head dey there,America and British intelligence funded certain iraqi-syrian rebels/terrorist and provided with weapons from the ousting of libya and believing they had control over them but this is what led to Isis taking shape.how did Isis rise to become so powerful so quickly,how did they procure heavy weaponry as soon as they were formed,it was the CIA that supplied weapons to these terrorists that formed isis...whether knowingly or unknowingly with or without help from those in Washington, America created this monster called Isis...read the links below.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/newly-declassified-u-s-government-documents-the-west-supported-the-creation-of-isis.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-begins-weapons-delivery-to-syrian-rebels/2013/09/11/9fcf2ed8-1b0c-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 1:40pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
Sir, are you The Saker?

No, I am not smiley
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:44pm On Oct 01, 2015
lozairio:
hw do capitalist states disrupt the peace of communist states communist hack into capitalist infrastructure and steal information and cause havoc capitalist places ban who drew first blood communist states threatened capitalist states that they will rain nukes on them you expect capitalism states not spend money to defend themselves gangs war are people not arrested unlike communist states where sons of the elite are members of the gangs and get away with it
So where do gangstars and American gun users that kill people get their guns from? The ISIS, Al Nusra, where are they getting American weapons from? Benin Republic?

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Rotimi47: 1:45pm On Oct 01, 2015
ValerianSteel:
Let them have the fastest missiles and most maneuverable missile in the universe it doesn't change the fact that U.S. Has Russia encompassed by Anti-ICBM stations.
The United States know that the Russians have the capability to defeat their air defences that's why they keep deploying them closer & closer to Russia door steps but do know that Russia keep improving their stand off capability that keep united States going back to the drawing board. Military Edge as of date: Russia.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:47pm On Oct 01, 2015
NairaMinted:


No, I am not smiley
But you know about his site right? I found it yesterday and I'm forever glad that I did. So many truths on that site.

www.thesaker.is.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Shymm3x: 1:49pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
But you know about his site right? I found it yesterday and I'm forever glad that I did. So many truths on that site.

www.thesaker.is.

He can never be The Saker.

The Saker is a Russian that lives in America (I think Miami). And based on his knowledge and connect - he probably used to be in the Russian military or a former Soviet era spy. He has lived in the US for over 30 years. grin
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:51pm On Oct 01, 2015
Shymm3x:


He can never be The Saker.

The Saker is a Russian that lives in America (I think Miami). And based on his knowledge and connect - he probably used to be in the Russian military or a former Soviet era spy. He has lived in the US for over 30 years. grin
That man is the truth!
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:51pm On Oct 01, 2015
I just pity Europe with their porous borders and political correctness.. by the time Isis infiltrates Europe and start manifesting. it would be too late...see the idiot Merkel and the EU throwing open their borders to unknown and undocumented migrants...I just hope Isis can be stoped before they go global.al Qaeda is already child's play when compared with them..

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Shymm3x: 1:54pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
That man is the truth!

Lol. Especially when he's not pissed off.

Somewhat objective but can be too pro-Russian sometimes...but he's definitely a Putin groupie.

I read his articles from time to time.

But Pepe Escobar, Seymour Hersh, and UK's own Seumas Milne are my guys when it comes to objectivity.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 1:55pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
But you know about his site right? I found it yesterday and I'm forever glad that I did. So many truths on that site.

www.thesaker.is.
Pepe! Add globalresearch.ca and counterpunch.org to your list as well. America is everything that is wrong with the world but people will condemn us as anti-american without taking a radical view of what we are saying

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Rotimi47: 1:57pm On Oct 01, 2015
ValerianSteel:
Let them have the fastest missiles and most maneuverable missile in the universe it doesn't change the fact that U.S. Has Russia encompassed by Anti-ICBM stations.
Brahmos missiles, Topol M missiles, let me also include the following Russian military assets - Mig31E jets, su27 jets, mig25 jets just to mention a few.

Finally, the world most powerful nuclear bomb is the Russian father of all bombs ( FOAB ).

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 2:00pm On Oct 01, 2015
Just coming in: CNN: Russian jet killed 200,000 children
Washington post: Russia caused mecca stampede that killed over 800 pilgrims
Dailymail: Russia was behind police killing of black in the US
Telegraph: Russia caused hurricane Katrina
The Sun: Russia forced the Speaker of the US Congress to resign

Hahahahahaha....Just joking though but no sane or sound person read or listen to western media. Their lies will finally catch up with them one day

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 2:00pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
But you know about his site right? I found it yesterday and I'm forever glad that I did. So many truths on that site.

www.thesaker.is.

Of course I do. In depth analysis and dissection of current affairs. Love the site! One of my top sites!

You should also follow Anthony Cartalucci on Facebook and his neojournal website. YOU WONT REGRET IT!
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 2:01pm On Oct 01, 2015
NaijaTalkTown:
Meanwhile the US will cut its military strenght by 40,000 personels by 2018. Bad times for America.
the US is spending too much on its military and it is plunging them into debt but these 40000 personels will be replaced by drones and other hardware...I don't think the reduction will essentially affect their military might..but UK on the other hand has a small army,so any cuts creates a ripple effect.
Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 2:03pm On Oct 01, 2015
"I have met with these brave fighters, and they are not Al-Qaeda. To the contrary: They are Libyan patriots who want to liberate their nation. We should help them do it." - Senator John McCain in Benghazi, Libya April 22, 2011 - as an Al- Qaeda flag was hoisted over a Benghazi courthouse......

“Of course they are Muslims, but they are moderates. I guarantee you that they are moderates — I know them, and I have been with them.” Senator John McCain, speaking about the rebels in Syria, Washington, September 3, 2013

“Not true, not true! Frankly, I just disagree… There’s about 70 percent still who are Free Syrian Army.”[b] _ [b]Senator John McCain, Washington, September 18, 2013


“This is an acknowledgment that U.S. stated goal to degrade and destroy ISIS is not working. If it were, we would not be talking to these not quite foreign terrorist groups.”

Retired Army general and former CIA Director David Petraeus advocating for the use of Al-Qaeda (supposed perpetrators of 9/11 o!) to fight ISIS.

"We’re talking four or five." Some laughably candid figures provided by the head of US Central Command General Lloyd Austin to the US Senate’s Armed Forces Committee when asked how many US-trained fighters are operating in Syria.

Lmao! grin

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by Nobody: 2:07pm On Oct 01, 2015
JumpingChicken:

It all started with the Arab spring. Stop blaming the U.S
The U.S. Have a hand in the so-called Arab Spring.

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Re: Russia Begins Air Strikes In Syria Against ISIS by NairaMinted: 2:10pm On Oct 01, 2015
JumpingChicken:


It all started with the Arab spring. Stop blaming the U.S


The US was behind the "Arab Spring". Google April 6 movement, Otpor, CANVAS and "Colour Revolution" groups in Europe. Google how the US uses the cover of NED, USAID, IRI, AEI and a myriad of these so called pro democracy and pro transparency groups and these so called think tanks to engage gullible citizens of a target county in sedition and subversion agendas.

You really need to research these things.

The US has lost its way and is a danger to the world! Simple!

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